Hey Everyone, sorry this is a little bit delayed, our workstations have started to refuse to render using GPU acceleration so this render took over 11 hours! Any questions let us know here and enjoy! EDIT - I at 10:53 constant compression ratios should be 3:1, 5:1, 8:1 & 12:1.
The footage you've shot with the 6K and 6K Pro are phenomenal and I love these long form videos to give potential users a good grasp of how things work on all the cameras you've reviewed. I would love to see your video of the ATEMs and how it works, especially for people who wants to dip their toes on some live streaming.
Literally the most extensive and detailed camera reviews on CZcams. Great stuff as always Jake. I get my pocket 6k pro on Monday and I am looking forward to testing it against the c70 soon.
That was by FAR the best review I've ever seen on CZcams, thanks for going into detail and not missing a thing! I'm currently saving for this beast and can't wait to get it once I can! Great video, you've earned a sub!
Your decision to do this deep dive came at just the right time,....at least, for me. This is not just a review, but a real analysis. I've looked at numerous "reviews" of the BMPCC 6k Pro (Blackmagic is great with those catchy product names, ain't they?). Most range from irrelevant to...uh, more irrelevant, from the inane to the prosaic. None even approximate this. It's not just a review, it's a great reference I plan to consult many times (My new 6k pro arrives tomorrow). Internal NDs, tilty screen (Gott sei Dank that they didn't have the screen flip out!), With the tilt screen a lot of shooting that was difficult or just not doable is now going to be child's play---depending on the child, of course. Thank you SO much for doing this. It's really great...easily the equivalent of your S1H deep dive. Now, just one more thing and my work is done here: How about a video dedicated to how to set up the audio. I've got a 6k and have never been happy with the audio results. What to do? Blame the user! I'm sure my confusion is my fault. If I were in the UK I'd be ordering the BMPCC6K Pro from y'all for sure. So glad BMD just made a great camera much more usable rather than reinventing the wheel. Spare us, O Lord, from yet another accurséd cube!
if we order from CVP can we ask you to check if the unit(s) has blue screen issue beforehand? it would be handy for anyone who does not own a professional monitor to check this
This is a huge amount of deep and focused work, that eventually turned into the absolute perfect gear review. You've created a reference. Period. Bravo !
Thank you for the terrific review as always! I have a couple of questions and would love your help. (1) I look forward to the lab tests of the 6K Pro on the specifics of any color and/or other shifts from the IRNDs, and to hear if these changes are consistent across all units. I also look forward to the latitude test. On the latitude test, can you include the differences between both the general chroma noise and horizontal striping on the 6K and 6K Pro? I would love to know: a. Is there more frequent chroma noise on the 6K Pro? and b. Do the 'chroma noise stripes' on the 6K Pro behave differently than on the 6K? On my 6K Pro unit, I've noticed horizontal striping even with ND Clear at ISO 400, and read about unusual and uncharacteristic chroma noise, reported in other situations, for example, during backlighting. For the latitude test, I saw that out of all the cameras you've tested so far, only the Canon C300 Mark III did not have the appearance of those lines. Therefore, I recognize there may be some minor banding in the darker and more solidly colored areas of the image on occasion, but am curious if and how the 6K Pro, on average, is handling chroma noise and those lines any differently than the 6K, and to determine if the appearance on my unit is related to QC. (2) What is the flange focal depth shift, if any, on the 6K? I saw you recorded it starting at 60 microns for the ND Clear on the 6K Pro here, but I can't find the measurement for the 6K and was wondering if it was different.
I love the new features they’ve added to the “pro” version. I still think it’s amazing that this camera has such a good variety of high quality internal codecs (Black Magic Raw and ProRes) at such a low price. As others have stated .. if some form of good autofocus was brought to this camera .. it would be amazing.
Your sample videos Unlike many other CZcams channels They look very cinematic and professional I said it before Your channel is one of the best in this business I'm glad the channel is growing fast thank you
Outstanding. One of, if not the best review video on the 6KPRO! Congratulations. I received the unit a week ago from B&H, and have to say it’s impressive. My only big issue (other than the NDs/tint, bluish LCD) is the internal fan noise/rattle. Can you comment on your observations? My unit can well be heard while monitoring the on board mic’s (obviously), while using a mounted shotgun, and 10 feet away using a boom or Lav.
Damn that lack of IR cut is really disappointing and defeats the purpose of the internal ND in the first place IMO. The variability in monitor QC / color shift is alarming as well
I’m with you... it’s a disappointment that they didn’t nail the nd/Ir cuts and I’m all for calling them out on it. Same with the monitor issues, the QC control and particles on the ND’s... That said. The Ir pollution is BARELY still there, not “mostly”... We’ve all seen the maroon soaked images of previous models... his hat doesn’t come close to that. Also, the slight Ir pollution, while annoying doesn’t “defeat the purpose” of internal ND’s. It means you still need to grab a low powered ir filter. This is still WAY better than having to have a matte box and separate filters or using a variable ND. Worth mentioning, this is an issue with the $6,000 Ursa mini G2 pro as well. By all means, BM please get your shit together, but just sayin’... I’ll throw an Ir cut filter on mine and get to work. I just hope they fix that screen and that I get a “better copy”.
@@dna8269 blackmagic web site claims these NDs with IR cut. Also tested my 6K pro with internal and external NDs and I can say i didn’t see any IR pollution.
@@ArseniiSavitckii sorry but the IR pollution is mainly still there, we noticed it both in our camera test area with Arri tungstens and outside while shooting with the internal NDs. BMD claim these NDs are IR cut and remove all IR, but this clearly is not the case. Jake
Hello. I would like to know which camera is better in terms of image quality: GH6 or BM 6k Pro. I don't care about stabilization or autofocus. What I want to know is which one is going to give me the most cinematic image possible and the most elasticity in color correction. I currently have a GH5 and I don't know whether to buy the GH6 or switch to a BM 6k Pro. I'm looking to take a step forward. Thank you very much and very good video.
This video looks like it was a lot of work! Thanks you for putting so much effort into this in-depth review! I am stil a bit undecided about the Blackmagic Pro as I already own a full set of 6 sony opticals and tend to the A7S3 :-)
Great Review, Thanks for the in-depth explanations on all aspects of this camera, I plan on purchasing this camera sometime in the near future once I figure out all the details for my next project
Yes please expound on the control section. This is my reason for choosing BMPCC (buying 3) for a one man band 3 camera TV show I do every week here in LA.
Your breakdowns are a joy to watch! Would be nice if you made a comparison video between best sub 5.000gbp cameras on the market, explaining comprehensively which would be best suited for what kind of users and work!
Thank you for your excellent review. I’m considering getting either the BMPCC 6KP or RED Komodo as my first cinema camera. I also appreciate the work you put into the data rate Google sheet. Thanks!
You actually know what your doing, I've seen a lot of videos of people's Pocket 6K Pro footage, and the lighting is flat and the picture is noisy and soft, I was about to dismiss the camera all together, but you threw me for a loop. I was debating on getting another Zeiss CP.3 lens, or getting the 6K Pro, but I think I will get the 6K Pro and hold off on getting the 85mm CP.3. I can make do with a 35mm Zeiss CP.3 and 50MM Zeiss CP.3 for now.
I loved the fire spinner clips. I am watching this video after doing my first shoot with the bmpcc6k pro and I shot with a bunch of fire spinners. I am currently editing and while doing so I realized there is still much I have to learn.
Very thorough and detailed review, by far the best on youtube, and ive been watching them all for a good few days now, i just cant decide whether to buy one, or spend probably twice as much for s Canon 8k 🤯
Great video. One thing to mention, I wouldn’t trust your Ninja V to be a reference monitor as far as colour goes unless you have calibrated it. It’s a common problem with the Ninja V that many of the units have a yellow cast out of the factory and need to be sent off to get calibrated
Hey Dale, thanks! That is true but this wasn't the only display we plugged it into where we could see such a huge difference. Blackmagic knows it's an issue with the cameras and should be fixing it asap! Jake
After camera records why can't I see the footage on my PC? Drive shows up but no drive letter or volume, but the footage can be viewed on the camera. I am confused
So I do have a question! I'm thinking about purchasing this camera for Travel cinematic videos. Would this be a solid camera for this or would you recommend a different camera. As I would eventually like to purchases an underwater housing as well and I would also like to be able to keep the run and gun style while also throwing a gimbal on it for more setup shots. Hopefully you can help me with this before I make a purchase haha.
I bought this camera because I can't afford a RED Komodo. I own a Ronin-S and have been debating whether or not to purchase an offset plate or to sell the Ronin in hopes to buy an S2 so I'm wondering what your opinion is? I do plan to get a Komodo in the future or whatever the next step is at the time. This was a really informative video, subscribed and will be back for more! Thank you so much
Nice review, it was really helpful. I have bought a 6K Pro camera from CVP and I'm enjoying it. I notice the blue screen but the footage looks great on the computer. I had an issue with the LUT's that I have imported to the camera, they don't seem to be working when i tried to activate them and also I cant delete them. Do you have a similar issue?
Hey Fabio, glad it was helpful! Yeah BMD should be putting out some kind of fix for ut at some point. In regards to the LUT issue I haven't had any issues with our time with the camera. Have you tried resetting the camera and then loading them back on? Jake
Awesome work team! Instantly subscribed 😊♥️ It will be so helpful a video explaining pros and cons of using BMPC6K + ATEM for streaming. Would you recommend this camera (+ATEM) just for streaming purposes? I’m looking forward to update my camera setup and I’m between an SONY A7III and a 6K (just for videostreaming). Not sure if not having autofocus could be a problem even I’m not thinking of moving the camera from the studio. What would you recommend? 🙏🏼♥️ Really appreciate such an awesome work! Thank you 🙏🏼♥️
While the C70 appears to have better latitude it is not RAW. The Braw files from th BMPCC6K more than compensate for over and under exposure by changing the ISO.
What a great video. Hoping that you see this, and that you know the answer... what were the exposure setting on the last shot in the dark with the man playing with with fire? It looks amazing and I can't see any noise whatsoever.
Good stuff brotha. Real nice. I agree, if you want to run the 6k at 6k 3:1, the AngelBird Matchpack is one of the few packs that handles this very well.
hello, the native ISO of the camera are 400 for shooting outdoors with sufficient light and 3200 for shooting indoors or outdoors with insufficient light, setting it to other ISO results in a loss of sharpness and noise? thanks
We didn't use diagonal to calculate crop factor, we used sensor width. This means aspect ratio can then change. Diagonal is more common for stills CF's, not so much for video & cine. However, if you matched aspect ratios between the formats you are wanting to compare, the maths will work out the same! Jake
Thanks for the review, I did however not really understand the backfocus issue you mentioned with the ND-filter. Do you mean that the glass that the filters introduce breaks the light slightly differently so that the infinity focus on some lenses can be affected? Or does this only apply to zoom lenses? ( I thought backfocus was a attribute of zoom-lenses and if they are parfocal or not. )
Backfocus is as important as front focus, the two go hand in hand actually, as when you focus to one meter the lens should backfocus relatively to the flange distance so that the sensor sees what’s 1m away as in focus. But glass in front of the sensor and not « from » the lens might introduce some shift in this backfocus thus breaking the relationship between front and back focus. This is hence valid for any lens, prime or zoom, parfocal or not :)
Great detailed reviews! Wondering is there any solution on the playback issue from Blackmagic yet? It's kind of nuisance to change the setting just to play back footages
Do you think that a Blackmagic 6k pro camera can work to videotape an eye surgery, would the size of the sensor represent a problem for depth of field? I need all the structures of the eye to be in focus. I would appreciate your opinion. Thank you
Thanks for your videos? How can see the false color on my external monitor ones I press the bottom on top of my camera? Right now it shows up on the camera when I press it but not on the external on , why is that ?
Hey there! Looking for a camera to do small client work with and have the option to do some more professional work. Stuck between bmpcc 6k Pro and A7sIII. I understand bmpcc6k Pro has amazing image and colour, but how close is it really?? Because the advantages of IBIS, autofocus, battery life and a smaller footprint of the A7sIII are big ones for run and gun, as I work on a gimbal a lot. Internal ND's are a big help in the 6K Pro as well! Already have an A7III and a 28-70 f2.8 for the sony, but the would need to buy Davinci studio, and on the flip side, the 28-70 f2.8 EF Sigma art lens for the 6k Pro. Cannot Decide!
Does the 6K Pro output 4K from the HDMI? I was very disappointed that the 6K doesn't and no one ever advertised on mentioned that before I purchased it.
Also i wanted to say this, Its a bit weird seeing to different companies come out with a new camera with the same sensor as their old camera but with a 'pro' body and some new features. Im talking about the fx3 and pocket 6k pro.
I am an actor and have regular self tape auditions. I wanted to grab this camera for self taping, shorts/skits, possible features and taking photos/headshots. I know that the still capture functionality on this camera isn’t the best, but I was wondering if it would make do for professional headshots? Also I know that the autofocus isn’t the greatest, do you think there would be an issue of dropping focus during self tapes? I was debating between this camera and the canon r5. Which do you think would fit my needs better keeping in mind the video will be my main focus?
Blackmagic cameras are for narrative filmmaking and need a pro cinematographer behind the camera. Always. The autofocus is non-existent. The canon is a good choice but overheats whether you record internally or externally. For your requirment, the Sony's are the best. Right now you can grab a A7iii on a big discount.
So I'm not dedicated to any one system right now and looking to get into a video kit. Short films, video portraits, some commercial work. I'm a little dazed by all of the options available at this price point (6k Pro, Z Cam E2-F6, Sony FX3, etc) and I'm struggling to make a decision on a kit I can grow with for the next few years. If the 6K Pro isn't one that fits my use case, what would be?
Hey UmDot, There are SO many options at this price point, it really is a bit of a mind field! What kind of work do you normally shoot? Do you own any lenses or acc's already? What budget do you have? Thanks, Jake
@@CVPTV Hi! I really appreciate you taking the time to reply. Right now I photograph on a Fuji system, and have nothing specific to video. There are a few options to stay in the Fuji ecosystem, but I don't see it (right now anyways) as a system I want to stay with for dedicated video work. As far as what I plan to shoot - Short films, some commercial work and digital content, possible documentary work at some point. From what I've gathered - the 6K Pro or a similarly priced body from Z Cam seem to fit the bill, but I can't ignore the convenience of hybrids with strong AF.
No worries! Ahh ok. The 6K Pro offers excellent bang for buck. The Z CAM systems are great too but will require some rigging and optional accessories to get it to a similar point to the 6K Pro. I would say the S6 and P6K Pro are pretty close image quality wise but the F6 is a stepup. Both systems have poor AF, if you want good AF I would look at the Sony a7 IV or FX3, but thats a different price point. Let me know if you have anymore questions! Jake
@@CVPTV Wow! Again, greatly appreciate the reply. AF Isn't a huge deal for me for the work I'd like to do, and from what I've read into - a Super 35 sensor like the 6k Pro or E2-S6 looks like it has more glass options for it. So realistically... 6k Pro - More usable out of the box S6 - Needs rigging, but seems to be more flexible due to it's smaller form factor (gimbal, etc) It really seems to come down to work flow and what codec/file format you want to work with?
Hey Mitch, yes there is a 1/4" thread on the top of the camera here. Or I'm sure all the regular rig brands will bring cages out for it soon! czcams.com/video/PSj7EQhrry4/video.html Jake
Hey Everyone, sorry this is a little bit delayed, our workstations have started to refuse to render using GPU acceleration so this render took over 11 hours! Any questions let us know here and enjoy!
EDIT - I at 10:53 constant compression ratios should be 3:1, 5:1, 8:1 & 12:1.
Curious, did you select the highlight recovery tab for the Pocket 6k when doing overexposure test?
No problem bro ❤️❤️❤️
Im still exited as always
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Shame on those workstations. They can’t handle the quality of your in-depth content :)
The footage you've shot with the 6K and 6K Pro are phenomenal and I love these long form videos to give potential users a good grasp of how things work on all the cameras you've reviewed. I would love to see your video of the ATEMs and how it works, especially for people who wants to dip their toes on some live streaming.
nice to hear even the pros struggle sometimes haha. hope u can fix it soon.
Literally the most extensive and detailed camera reviews on CZcams. Great stuff as always Jake. I get my pocket 6k pro on Monday and I am looking forward to testing it against the c70 soon.
I'm looking forward to your comparison Griffin. I'm wondering how it'll compare to my c70.
@@darwinmacon thanks Darwin!
Thanks Griffin, looking forward to seeing what you capture with it! Jake
Black Magic needs to pay these guys for a thoroughly well-done job on their behalf
That was by FAR the best review I've ever seen on CZcams, thanks for going into detail and not missing a thing!
I'm currently saving for this beast and can't wait to get it once I can! Great video, you've earned a sub!
Awesome in depth review guys !! Can't wait to receive mine :).
Thanks, looking forward to seeing what you create with it! Jake
Are they back logged?
CVP + BMPCC = SCHOOL OF FILM PRODUCTION
Your decision to do this deep dive came at just the right time,....at least, for me. This is not just a review, but a real analysis. I've looked at numerous "reviews" of the BMPCC 6k Pro (Blackmagic is great with those catchy product names, ain't they?). Most range from irrelevant to...uh, more irrelevant, from the inane to the prosaic. None even approximate this. It's not just a review, it's a great reference I plan to consult many times (My new 6k pro arrives tomorrow). Internal NDs, tilty screen (Gott sei Dank that they didn't have the screen flip out!), With the tilt screen a lot of shooting that was difficult or just not doable is now going to be child's play---depending on the child, of course.
Thank you SO much for doing this. It's really great...easily the equivalent of your S1H deep dive.
Now, just one more thing and my work is done here:
How about a video dedicated to how to set up the audio.
I've got a 6k and have never been happy with the audio results. What to do? Blame the user! I'm sure my confusion is my fault.
If I were in the UK I'd be ordering the BMPCC6K Pro from y'all for sure.
So glad BMD just made a great camera much more usable rather than reinventing the wheel. Spare us, O Lord, from yet another accurséd cube!
This is the absolute best camera review I have seen yet. Standing ovation 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks for watching! Jake
if we order from CVP can we ask you to check if the unit(s) has blue screen issue beforehand? it would be handy for anyone who does not own a professional monitor to check this
Yes please do a deep dive showing how to control the BMD cams over HDMI
This is a huge amount of deep and focused work, that eventually turned into the absolute perfect gear review.
You've created a reference. Period.
Bravo !
What a nice, full Review! Thanks guys! Have the BM Pro6K since yesterday - this cam is awesome!
your reviews are amazing! thank you
A deep dive in to the pocket 6k Pro. Well done guys. Kind of remind me Philip bloom extensive reviews
Thank you for the terrific review as always! I have a couple of questions and would love your help. (1) I look forward to the lab tests of the 6K Pro on the specifics of any color and/or other shifts from the IRNDs, and to hear if these changes are consistent across all units. I also look forward to the latitude test. On the latitude test, can you include the differences between both the general chroma noise and horizontal striping on the 6K and 6K Pro? I would love to know: a. Is there more frequent chroma noise on the 6K Pro? and b. Do the 'chroma noise stripes' on the 6K Pro behave differently than on the 6K? On my 6K Pro unit, I've noticed horizontal striping even with ND Clear at ISO 400, and read about unusual and uncharacteristic chroma noise, reported in other situations, for example, during backlighting. For the latitude test, I saw that out of all the cameras you've tested so far, only the Canon C300 Mark III did not have the appearance of those lines. Therefore, I recognize there may be some minor banding in the darker and more solidly colored areas of the image on occasion, but am curious if and how the 6K Pro, on average, is handling chroma noise and those lines any differently than the 6K, and to determine if the appearance on my unit is related to QC. (2) What is the flange focal depth shift, if any, on the 6K? I saw you recorded it starting at 60 microns for the ND Clear on the 6K Pro here, but I can't find the measurement for the 6K and was wondering if it was different.
I love the new features they’ve added to the “pro” version. I still think it’s amazing that this camera has such a good variety of high quality internal codecs (Black Magic Raw and ProRes) at such a low price. As others have stated .. if some form of good autofocus was brought to this camera .. it would be amazing.
Just use DjIs LiDAR focusing if you need it. Its the only way to get cine lenses to focus anyway.
Your sample videos
Unlike many other CZcams channels
They look very cinematic and professional
I said it before
Your channel is one of the best in this business
I'm glad the channel is growing fast
thank you
Outstanding. One of, if not the best review video on the 6KPRO! Congratulations.
I received the unit a week ago from B&H, and have to say it’s impressive. My only big issue (other than the NDs/tint, bluish LCD) is the internal fan noise/rattle. Can you comment on your observations?
My unit can well be heard while
monitoring the on board mic’s (obviously), while using a mounted shotgun, and 10 feet away using a boom or Lav.
Damn that lack of IR cut is really disappointing and defeats the purpose of the internal ND in the first place IMO. The variability in monitor QC / color shift is alarming as well
I heard the filters are IR Cut-NDs
@@joellouisfire Watch the ND part of this review where the IR pollution is still mostly there
I’m with you... it’s a disappointment that they didn’t nail the nd/Ir cuts and I’m all for calling them out on it. Same with the monitor issues, the QC control and particles on the ND’s...
That said. The Ir pollution is BARELY still there, not “mostly”... We’ve all seen the maroon soaked images of previous models... his hat doesn’t come close to that.
Also, the slight Ir pollution, while annoying doesn’t “defeat the purpose” of internal ND’s. It means you still need to grab a low powered ir filter. This is still WAY better than having to have a matte box and separate filters or using a variable ND. Worth mentioning, this is an issue with the $6,000 Ursa mini G2 pro as well.
By all means, BM please get your shit together, but just sayin’... I’ll throw an Ir cut filter on mine and get to work. I just hope they fix that screen and that I get a “better copy”.
@@dna8269 blackmagic web site claims these NDs with IR cut.
Also tested my 6K pro with internal and external NDs and I can say i didn’t see any IR pollution.
@@ArseniiSavitckii sorry but the IR pollution is mainly still there, we noticed it both in our camera test area with Arri tungstens and outside while shooting with the internal NDs. BMD claim these NDs are IR cut and remove all IR, but this clearly is not the case. Jake
Hello. I would like to know which camera is better in terms of image quality: GH6 or BM 6k Pro. I don't care about stabilization or autofocus. What I want to know is which one is going to give me the most cinematic image possible and the most elasticity in color correction. I currently have a GH5 and I don't know whether to buy the GH6 or switch to a BM 6k Pro. I'm looking to take a step forward. Thank you very much and very good video.
finally I have been waiting for this
Thank you for a very detailed review. The links included are the cherry on top. Good work!!
Finally, CVP found a way to save some coffee. No more coffee spill.
LOL
This video looks like it was a lot of work! Thanks you for putting so much effort into this in-depth review! I am stil a bit undecided about the Blackmagic Pro as I already own a full set of 6 sony opticals and tend to the A7S3 :-)
I ditched my A7s3 for a 6kpro ... the picture is just much better.
Awesome detailed review as always! Can't wait for mine to come in.
Great Review, Thanks for the in-depth explanations on all aspects of this camera, I plan on purchasing this camera sometime in the near future once I figure out all the details for my next project
Yes please expound on the control section. This is my reason for choosing BMPCC (buying 3) for a one man band 3 camera TV show I do every week here in LA.
Thank you for publishing over 1080p. People talk about recording in 6k then publish a 1080p CZcams video lol
This with usable autofocus would be such a weapon
That would be pretty cool but I'm used to shooting without it now. Maybe one day?
autofocus is for noobs, all serious professional filmmakers never need that.
@@lulumink0 😂😂😂
Your breakdowns are a joy to watch! Would be nice if you made a comparison video between best sub 5.000gbp cameras on the market, explaining comprehensively which would be best suited for what kind of users and work!
A customer recieved a reply from Blackmagic that a firmware update will include in camera screen calibration feature to address the blue tint issue.
Thank you for your excellent review. I’m considering getting either the BMPCC 6KP or RED Komodo as my first cinema camera. I also appreciate the work you put into the data rate Google sheet. Thanks!
You actually know what your doing, I've seen a lot of videos of people's Pocket 6K Pro footage, and the lighting is flat and the picture is noisy and soft, I was about to dismiss the camera all together, but you threw me for a loop. I was debating on getting another Zeiss CP.3 lens, or getting the 6K Pro, but I think I will get the 6K Pro and hold off on getting the 85mm CP.3. I can make do with a 35mm Zeiss CP.3 and 50MM Zeiss CP.3 for now.
Fantastic review, thank you!
Thanks for watching!
I loved the fire spinner clips. I am watching this video after doing my first shoot with the bmpcc6k pro and I shot with a bunch of fire spinners. I am currently editing and while doing so I realized there is still much I have to learn.
great review thanks guys! I just sold my Fs5 and gonna buy the 6k pro for the money next week
Very thorough and detailed review, by far the best on youtube, and ive been watching them all for a good few days now, i just cant decide whether to buy one, or spend probably twice as much for s Canon 8k 🤯
Great video. One thing to mention, I wouldn’t trust your Ninja V to be a reference monitor as far as colour goes unless you have calibrated it. It’s a common problem with the Ninja V that many of the units have a yellow cast out of the factory and need to be sent off to get calibrated
Hey Dale, thanks! That is true but this wasn't the only display we plugged it into where we could see such a huge difference. Blackmagic knows it's an issue with the cameras and should be fixing it asap! Jake
exactly why pros avoid it.
After camera records why can't I see the footage on my PC? Drive shows up but no drive letter or volume, but the footage can be viewed on the camera. I am confused
YAY!!! Been waiting for this
Lets goo!!! Finally
Even if its late its the best review ❤️❤️❤️
Better late than never as they say lol
Wonderfully in-depth review! I'd be interested in a fan noise comparison as there's been reports of loud fan noises from certain units
Interesting, I didn't notice any heavy fan noise, but it did get rather toasty! Jake
Great Review, very detailed. I'd love to see a Review on the BM ATEM devices and how to control the BM camera with it. Great work! Thanks!
Great work Jake! Well done!
Thanks for watching! Jake
Very detailed and informative video. Keep up the great content 👊🏼
Thanks for watching! Jake
So I do have a question!
I'm thinking about purchasing this camera for Travel cinematic videos. Would this be a solid camera for this or would you recommend a different camera. As I would eventually like to purchases an underwater housing as well and I would also like to be able to keep the run and gun style while also throwing a gimbal on it for more setup shots.
Hopefully you can help me with this before I make a purchase haha.
I bought one. The no 6K progress stinks. But 4k prores is still good enough.
I bought this camera because I can't afford a RED Komodo. I own a Ronin-S and have been debating whether or not to purchase an offset plate or to sell the Ronin in hopes to buy an S2 so I'm wondering what your opinion is? I do plan to get a Komodo in the future or whatever the next step is at the time. This was a really informative video, subscribed and will be back for more! Thank you so much
An excellent review and source of information. Outstanding!
Unfortunately I have a bad unit. I already contacted support (CVP) to see my options.
Nice review, it was really helpful. I have bought a 6K Pro camera from CVP and I'm enjoying it. I notice the blue screen but the footage looks great on the computer. I had an issue with the LUT's that I have imported to the camera, they don't seem to be working when i tried to activate them and also I cant delete them. Do you have a similar issue?
Hey Fabio, glad it was helpful! Yeah BMD should be putting out some kind of fix for ut at some point. In regards to the LUT issue I haven't had any issues with our time with the camera. Have you tried resetting the camera and then loading them back on? Jake
absolutely superb review, you literally covered everything. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching. Jake
Awesome work team! Instantly subscribed 😊♥️ It will be so helpful a video explaining pros and cons of using BMPC6K + ATEM for streaming.
Would you recommend this camera (+ATEM) just for streaming purposes? I’m looking forward to update my camera setup and I’m between an SONY A7III and a 6K (just for videostreaming). Not sure if not having autofocus could be a problem even I’m not thinking of moving the camera from the studio.
What would you recommend? 🙏🏼♥️
Really appreciate such an awesome work!
Thank you 🙏🏼♥️
Looking lovely. I’m enjoying mine.
ME too!! This things is freaking amazing
The C70 is looking amazing from that comparison
It's got a very impressive sensor! Jake
While the C70 appears to have better latitude it is not RAW. The Braw files from th BMPCC6K more than compensate for over and under exposure by changing the ISO.
What a great video. Hoping that you see this, and that you know the answer... what were the exposure setting on the last shot in the dark with the man playing with with fire? It looks amazing and I can't see any noise whatsoever.
I wish it had PDAF and IBIS, that would be my perfect camera.
Very gud review almost competing Phillip blooms level of detailing👍👍
Good stuff brotha. Real nice. I agree, if you want to run the 6k at 6k 3:1, the AngelBird Matchpack is one of the few packs that handles this very well.
The 6k chomps through data
hello, the native ISO of the camera are 400 for shooting outdoors with sufficient light and 3200 for shooting indoors or outdoors with insufficient light, setting it to other ISO results in a loss of sharpness and noise? thanks
Crop factor was incorrectly counted!
Kf = diagonal 35мм / matrix diagonal = 43,3/26,5 = 1,63
23.10(squared ) + 12.99(squared) = 702,3501
extract the square root 702,3501 = 26,5
We didn't use diagonal to calculate crop factor, we used sensor width. This means aspect ratio can then change. Diagonal is more common for stills CF's, not so much for video & cine. However, if you matched aspect ratios between the formats you are wanting to compare, the maths will work out the same! Jake
Amazing Camera! Thanks for making this video...
Thanks for the review, I did however not really understand the backfocus issue you mentioned with the ND-filter. Do you mean that the glass that the filters introduce breaks the light slightly differently so that the infinity focus on some lenses can be affected? Or does this only apply to zoom lenses?
( I thought backfocus was a attribute of zoom-lenses and if they are parfocal or not. )
Interested too. If it means can't manually focus certain wide lenses, kinda important.
Backfocus is as important as front focus, the two go hand in hand actually, as when you focus to one meter the lens should backfocus relatively to the flange distance so that the sensor sees what’s 1m away as in focus. But glass in front of the sensor and not « from » the lens might introduce some shift in this backfocus thus breaking the relationship between front and back focus. This is hence valid for any lens, prime or zoom, parfocal or not :)
You can load up to 10 luts, not 6. So in total you can have 14 luts (4 in Camera and 10 yours)
Great detailed reviews! Wondering is there any solution on the playback issue from Blackmagic yet? It's kind of nuisance to change the setting just to play back footages
Many people have commented on the 6K Pro's loud fan noise? Did your on-camera mic pick up the fan whirring noise?
Do you think that a Blackmagic 6k pro camera can work to videotape an eye surgery, would the size of the sensor represent a problem for depth of field?
I need all the structures of the eye to be in focus. I would appreciate your opinion. Thank you
Killed again, Jake - thorough, quality work on this review. What was the ISO on the flame acrobat?
Thanks! It was a mix of the two base ISO's. Jake
Amazing reviews - as usual. Thank you.
Thanks for watching! Jake
best reviews in the game, thanks guys!!!
Thanks for your videos?
How can see the false color on my external monitor ones I press the bottom on top of my camera? Right now it shows up on the camera when I press it but not on the external on , why is that ?
Excellent review. 100% useful Great job!!!
Your videos are amazing!
I wish the image looked more filmic looks very digital
Hey there! Looking for a camera to do small client work with and have the option to do some more professional work. Stuck between bmpcc 6k Pro and A7sIII. I understand bmpcc6k Pro has amazing image and colour, but how close is it really?? Because the advantages of IBIS, autofocus, battery life and a smaller footprint of the A7sIII are big ones for run and gun, as I work on a gimbal a lot. Internal ND's are a big help in the 6K Pro as well! Already have an A7III and a 28-70 f2.8 for the sony, but the would need to buy Davinci studio, and on the flip side, the 28-70 f2.8 EF Sigma art lens for the 6k Pro. Cannot Decide!
10:53 18:1 is only available on the 12K usra and there is also 3:1 o the 6K pro which is to listed
Wow this so detailed.
Does the 6K Pro output 4K from the HDMI? I was very disappointed that the 6K doesn't and no one ever advertised on mentioned that before I purchased it.
Great work guys, like always. Thank you
Thanks for watching! Jake
@@CVPTV Jake, during the tests did you notice any issue with ND? Some people have problems with magenta shift, green/warm shift.
@@Krakadillaz Check out the ND results at 17:35 dude!
Also i wanted to say this,
Its a bit weird seeing to different companies come out with a new camera with the same sensor as their old camera but with a 'pro' body and some new features.
Im talking about the fx3 and pocket 6k pro.
Why is this sus? A new sensor would be great, but internal NDs, an EVF, a tiltable screen, etc are also extremely useful and worth a purchase.
Add xt4 to that...
All frames between 7:57 to 8:13 are completely black. At first I thought that meant that the low ISO’s didn’t detect any light?
Nice video, love this camera. Few tings would be nice but it works for me.
Hey, thanks for the extensive review. Is there a chance you can make some original BRAW camera files available to download?
Would you recommend I send my BMPCC 6K Pro back for replacement if I am experiencing a blue tint issue?
Very informative. Thanks 😎👍🏼
Very high quality review . Congratulations
Thanks for watching! Jake
This is literally innnn depth
I am an actor and have regular self tape auditions. I wanted to grab this camera for self taping, shorts/skits, possible features and taking photos/headshots. I know that the still capture functionality on this camera isn’t the best, but I was wondering if it would make do for professional headshots? Also I know that the autofocus isn’t the greatest, do you think there would be an issue of dropping focus during self tapes?
I was debating between this camera and the canon r5. Which do you think would fit my needs better keeping in mind the video will be my main focus?
Blackmagic cameras are for narrative filmmaking and need a pro cinematographer behind the camera. Always. The autofocus is non-existent. The canon is a good choice but overheats whether you record internally or externally. For your requirment, the Sony's are the best. Right now you can grab a A7iii on a big discount.
incredible!! thank you :)
So
I'm not dedicated to any one system right now and looking to get into a video kit. Short films, video portraits, some commercial work.
I'm a little dazed by all of the options available at this price point (6k Pro, Z Cam E2-F6, Sony FX3, etc) and I'm struggling to make a decision on a kit I can grow with for the next few years.
If the 6K Pro isn't one that fits my use case, what would be?
Hey UmDot, There are SO many options at this price point, it really is a bit of a mind field! What kind of work do you normally shoot? Do you own any lenses or acc's already? What budget do you have? Thanks, Jake
@@CVPTV Hi!
I really appreciate you taking the time to reply.
Right now I photograph on a Fuji system, and have nothing specific to video. There are a few options to stay in the Fuji ecosystem, but I don't see it (right now anyways) as a system I want to stay with for dedicated video work.
As far as what I plan to shoot - Short films, some commercial work and digital content, possible documentary work at some point.
From what I've gathered - the 6K Pro or a similarly priced body from Z Cam seem to fit the bill, but I can't ignore the convenience of hybrids with strong AF.
No worries! Ahh ok. The 6K Pro offers excellent bang for buck. The Z CAM systems are great too but will require some rigging and optional accessories to get it to a similar point to the 6K Pro. I would say the S6 and P6K Pro are pretty close image quality wise but the F6 is a stepup. Both systems have poor AF, if you want good AF I would look at the Sony a7 IV or FX3, but thats a different price point. Let me know if you have anymore questions! Jake
@@CVPTV Wow!
Again, greatly appreciate the reply.
AF Isn't a huge deal for me for the work I'd like to do, and from what I've read into - a Super 35 sensor like the 6k Pro or E2-S6 looks like it has more glass options for it.
So realistically...
6k Pro - More usable out of the box
S6 - Needs rigging, but seems to be more flexible due to it's smaller form factor (gimbal, etc)
It really seems to come down to work flow and what codec/file format you want to work with?
Wow great video guys
Great video! Where can we contact you for input on which camera best suits our own individual needs?
Diction would help this.. :) nice work.
thanks for the in-depth review
Thanks for watching! Jake
20:48 I don't see in the description what IR filter you recommend. Can you give a link to the recommend IF filter?
Great stuff. One thing I may have missed, is there a free 1/4-20 so that someone could use a universal ssd holder?
Hey Mitch, yes there is a 1/4" thread on the top of the camera here. Or I'm sure all the regular rig brands will bring cages out for it soon! czcams.com/video/PSj7EQhrry4/video.html Jake
Thank you for great review.
Thanks for watching! Jake
FYI: After 3 days the NDs in mine stopped working. Was stuck at 4 stops of ND. Returned it. The motor on the NDs seems an issue.
Sorry to hear this Mark, hopefully you get everything resolved asap. Jake
@@CVPTV Cheers! I returned for a refund. Couldn't take the risk on another one. Imagine if that had happened on a job??
Great video... what irnd did you put on the lens to assist with the true blacks, I couldn’t find anything in the description.
Check these out - www.formatt-hitech.com/circular-filters/circular-firecrest-nd-filters2
What happens if he battery dies while filming - is the video file corrupt again or will it be saved finally like on every other camera?