The 1 BIG pattern from 'Do Not Look Down' by Meshuggah
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- Time Consuming Ep #38: This months Meshuggah song is 'Do Not Look Down' from the album Koloss.
This song has a 17 beat grouping that runs for 2 minutes straight and it's one of the groovier Meshuggah songs.
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'Do Not Look Down' original song:
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The "Time Consuming Suggestions" playlist has all the suggestions I got from you guys in the comments, plus a bunch of options I've put in.
Some of them may not have polyrhythms, and I'll delete them slowly once I go over it all!
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#musiceducation #polyrhythms #meshuggah - Hudba
It would be comical if Meshuggah were shown some of Yogevs hard efforts and they were blown away because they too, had no idea their music was so complex.
thats probably not far off from the truth lol theyve stated that they dont ever focus on math or time signatures when composing music, they just make shit that sounds cool. making it work as "proper" rhythms is literally an afterthought for them 😭
Me going to learn this song: "its in 4/4 how hard can it be"
Tomas Haake: *laughs in 17/16*
4/4 in one hand
ok, I tried to laugh in that time signature...
🤣
ha ha
ha ha
hahahahahahaha
ha ha
Sort of a James Brown feel- Jens Hanneman
I think Meshuggah should be an academic discipline by now. I love these videos!
They were a central part of one course on Berklee and one conservatory in Sweden also analyzed them if I am not mistaken. Very fucking cool and I hope more jump on that train in the future and with other important bands as these madlads!
lol yeah!
That is so fucking seriously true. I'm going to harass my college's music theory teachers to teach me this shit to the max or I'll detune all their shit.
@@aplus1080 just chill xD
@@franlovelsimic8421 And people say this isn't music
The main riff is like Clapping Music but djentier
Music For 18 8-Stringed Guitars
WHAT
How dare you let us choose between dancers and stengah I feel offended I want both .
Exactly my feeling, this ain’t easy
"Stengah"
Oh easy choice
"Dancers"
SHIT
when dancers is in any list there is no other option imho.
Exactly why I'm not choosing
I feel offended too. We need to shut him down. This makes CZcams a hostile environment for me.
Holy fuck this is insane - and your method of illustrating it is SO HELPFUL - this is how I'm going to draw out complex polyrhythms forever now - THANK YOU
When the vocals start, I think it's over for the average musician.
@@fredriksvard2603 must be nice, I'm still on Mr. Sandman 😕
You're like a safari guide through the wilderness that is Meshuggah!
I must say your videos are incredibly intuitive and very eloquent yet not overly complicated, not much "fluff" per say.
Fluff?
@@RicoLee27 usally fluffs refers too uneeded additives, commonly you can say an essay with too many unneeded words as "fluff" or "bs"
@@RicoLee27 he defines fluff by being exactly the opposite of what he said previous to using "fluff" even in inverted commas
Per say 🤣
Dancers To A Discordant System HAS to win. Best song ever written and I would love to have it analyzed by you.
"Man, I'm happy I'm not the one choosing"Oh, It'll be Dancers to a Discordant System Yogev.
I really wonder, if Meshuggah sometimes watches your videos and thinks "Ooooh no, OOOOOH NO, WHAT HAVE WE DONE!"
11:19 Sharon is taking a mouse and returning headphones :O
Shhht
She might need it
What’s really wild is that they’ve all said in interviews they just write the song however they feel it, and don’t delve into the theory and deliberately plan time signatures.
They are creative geniuses. This video was made by an analytical genius. If you look at the comment section you will see that its composed mostly of people who notice small details or who have good humor. This channel attracts high IQ people
Honestly, what they say in interviews is often bullshit (this is typical of a lot of bands, actually). They absolutely do plan this shit out, they'll even admit this in some interviews and then downplay it in others.
@@masterchain3335 I know part of it is intuitive but yes you are right. Most of the time artists downplay their theory knowledge.
Ah yes, another underappreciated masterpiece from Koloss. This one is really fun to play to say the least.
I find this song extra cool because it really illustrates the relationship between polyrythm and polymeter (ie subdivisions) due to the relatively slow tempo; if you tap your foot on the '1' of the 4/4 and clap on the '1' of the riffs, you're playing a wholenote 16:17 polyrythm!
It's amazing how you instantly get a flowing groove when the hi-hat comes in, it's like the entire song changes, but it doesn't.
Agreed!
This is so crazy. The best part is that I don't primarily appreciate the concepts (albeit it is magical), but I love the music.
If it makes you feel any better, with Meshuggah even those of us nodding our heads like we know what's going on are barely keeping up 😅
Meshuggah's magic is that their music is somehow both incredibly complex when you break it down but you can still headbang and groove to it.
@@facemash Well let's see if I've watched enough of Yogev's vids to explain: the host is always 4/4 (of the vids I've watched). So no matter how crazy it all gets, you can always find the steady 1 2 3 4 somewhere in the drums, which is what we bang to :)
There's more.
You can think of the harmonic rhythm of the fourth riff - roughly, the rhythm with which the notes change - as being in triple time. The contour is: minor 3, sharp 4, perfect 5 (with root notes in between). You can hear it trace the accents of the 13/8 phrase, but it only lines up every third bar of 13/8 because there are only two accent notes in each bar. So the melody itself is kind of its own little polymeter.
_Then_ during the second half, they continue this as they start switching notes out. The melody still follows the triple-time contour, but with certain notes in the 3-4-5 cycle swapped for higher notes for a kind of melodic crescendo effect.
This is my favorite Meshuggah song.
holy shit, that's mind blowing
This is a technique called an isorhythm. Meshuggah uses this quite a lot. The prechorus riff of stengah, guitar solo riff of bleed, The entirety of the first 2 minutes of pineal gland optics, the riffs in dancers right after the modulation section, the descending riff before the guitar solo in I am Colossus,the intros and outros of swarm, the outro riff of demiurge, and the verse riff of Nostrum are all examples of this. It's like a cycle within a cycle.
There are probably more examples of it, but those ones stand out to me.
@@drumkidstu I had noticed it in other Meshuggah songs but I wasn't aware of the term! Thanks!
fuck this shit lol i quit
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Something feels so "drunken" about this song. I tap my foot and sometimes I am suddenly tapping backwards (down on the upbeat). But then at times everything lines up and it just sounds amazing... probably because its been slowly aligning and I am subconsciously waiting for it. Tension and release. Fantastic stuff. I wonder if they graph it out.
The tapping down on the upbeat is very stronk in Monstrocity aswell tbh
for real! while playing it it grooves so hard, but is so meditative at the same time
One of my favourite things in this song is "a melodic polymeter" in the 4th riff. The riff consists of two "phrases" (as it was shown on the paper), but the melodic pattern - of three. So there is a constant shift between rhythm and melody. And even though they sometimes change accents, the melodic pattern stays the same. Exactly the same thing happens in "Dancers...", pretty much through the whole song.
Called an isorhythm. Simply put you have a rhythmic figure of let's say 8 notes, but a pitch cycle of 7 notes so it'll always save shifting. Prechorus of stengah, guitar solo riff of bleed, as you mentioned dancers, the first 2 and a half minutes of pineal gland Optics, the descending riff on I am colossus right before the guitar solo, the intro and outro of swarm, the outro of demiurge and there are probably some on TVSOR as well, but I can't think of any more off the top of my head.
Love the way the accents cycle around to different places in the host beat, makes this song such a bop! Great video as always
Edit: love the gf stealing the headphones again
yes the snare of this band can totaly be an obsession. I analyse each songs of them just in esperance to one day succesfully play one of their songs for like 4years... (I had to learn play drums first, cauz didn't know much on that in the past.)
The hardest part about playing these kinds of riffs on guitar is changing key/chords mid rhythmic pattern. It always feels so awkward. Incredible analysis as always!
spent half my life not understanding how this riff works. kept counting 17 and never figured out where it reset. now it makes total sense visually. and explains why the harmonic change mid-riff is so sick sounding.
dude, these kinds of videos are so hard to find, thank you so much for making these. I love this kind of rhythmically mind-bending music and your videos are so great for finding new concepts, new musicians, new music, and new rhythmic puzzles to solve. thank you so much, please don't stop making these
A channel that analyses progressive metal?
HOW DID I NOT DISCOVER THIS CHANNEL SOONER!
I knew Meshuggah were geniuses this guy just confirms it. 🤘🤘
Holy shit...I never realized that it stays in 17/16. I always interpreted the harmonic changes as turnarounds that resolve but you’re right...the key change is just happening in the middle of the riff. That’s insane!
Missed opportunity to do Jens face in the thumbnail.
I know this doesn't count as a vote, but I'd love to see Stengah!
"What are your pronouns?"
"Rhy/them"
I would like to know more about those carcasses of gaming controllers hanging. Also that you for everything dude. You're like a messiah spreading the word of the one great Meshuggah.
visualizing the song this way?! you just opened my eyes! thank you so much!
Another amazing analysis. Thank you!
Content is strong as always! Love your videos
Love the videos, great work!
Hell yeah! I’ve been wanting this song!
I’ve never seen visual presentations like this with drum ed content creators . This approach is really helpful when trying to grasp these rhythms that tend to mess with your brain as you attempt to break them down as time signatures. Excellent content!
Man I love this channel, thank you!
Amazing work as always!
Again, absolutely unbelievably well done video!! Absolutely love how you break down these songs, and again I love the visuals you create to make it so much more understandable!
YES, thank you!! I’m so glad you did this one, this album and song really are so groovy
This song just never gets old. Great video as always. I think after watching a lot of your videos, I can understand everything in this video more easily. You have definitely inspired me to learn about this stuff and it seems very cool. I plan to binge the whole Time Consuming series at some point.
Incredible video, thank you
I teach music theory to classical musician kids, and they all freak out at anything odd meter, so we clapped "short, short, long, short, short, 1 2 3 4 5 6". and I drew the circles on the board. Once they had it tight I put the track on, should have seen their faces!! Love using meshuggah in those lessons and it's actually quite impressive how rhythmic people can be when you're not looking at standard notation and just move your body. Great video, and thank you for the inspiration!
Amazing!
And yes you're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! I also believe rhythm is more approachable when you try non western ways.
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Incredible video, great work!
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I love your meshuggah videos!
these videos have been some of the most fun, interesting and helpful theory videos I’ve ever seen, quickly becoming one of my fav channels
I love that song sooo much, awesome video as always
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This is one of my favourite Meshuggah songs, thanks for making this!
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On god amazing content. Keep it up man!
Fascinating. Excellent breakdown!
the freaking concept of this song and how they implemented it, holy cow
great work!!! beautiful video
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Keeps these kinds of breakdowns coming and I will definitely keep watching.
Dude thank you so much for making these videos. Big fan of Collier and Meshuggah. These vids are really helping me out.
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Much respect for taking the time to analyze and summarize such complex songs. Thank you!
I can't believe this exists! Such clear and entertaining analysis - thank you Yogev
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Great analysis of a great song. Excellent video.
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This is a great explainer. Solid job!
My gosh dude, this shit is so interesting. Thanks a ton for making these. So fun to watch.
This video helped me so much while learning this song!
Excellent video once again! Love this song, it's in my top 3 for Meshuggah songs.
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Your video style is so fun
Dont look down is one of my favs! Thanks for this video! Okay legit, this style of video is incredible. Amazing editing man!
You sir are of the most deserving of a Patreon support. I'll be right here after I get some sleep lol
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i discovered this channel 2 days ago and oh man, you're great. Thx to you i now understand the greatness of meshuggah much better.
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