Blackmagic Design 8TB Cloudstore Mini Review - What's worth knowing!!
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2022
- I have pushed the Blackmagic Design 8TB Cloud Store Mini to the limit for a couple months.
There's a lot to love about the Cloudstore.
But in this review I have concentrated on the cloudstore mini's usability, storage capacity, functionality and design as a networked DAS, while assessing its Pros and cons.
First the Cloud Store Mini lets you share your media files globally, eliminating the high cost of collaborating with talented editors and colorists around the world.
The Blackmagic Cloud Store Mini is storage that syncs and shares media with Dropbox and Google Drive. It even understands proxy workflows, so a whole timeline and its media can be shared in minutes. The internal memory core is so fast it can saturate the 10G Ethernet port to its theoretical maximum speed, even with multiple users connected. File access is very low latency. It's perfect for sharing large media files between editors, colorists, audio engineers and VFX artists.
Designed for Film and Television
Blackmagic Cloud Store Mini is the perfect network storage solution for any use
It can handle massive 12K Blackmagic RAW digital cinema files.
It’s the perfect storage solution for DaVinci Resolve.
Dropbox and Google Drive sync allows multiple disks to be synchronized in different locations globally. Then each location gets the fastest editing experience possible.
Portable and Quiet Design features a compact rack mount option.
Internally it has an array of 4 flash memory cards working in parallel for higher speed. The 10G Ethernet port and the 1G Ethernet port operate as a 2 port network switch. That’s great if you don't have a 10G Ethernet network, as you can connect the 10G port directly into your computer and the 1G port to your existing network. If you need to access files quickly, then the USB-C even operates as a network connection, simply by plugging it into your computer. There is also an HDMI monitoring output so you can watch a live graphic view of the storage operating on a TV or monitor.
Flash Memory Allows Multiple Simultaneous Users
The Blackmagic Cloud Store Mini is available with 8 TB of flash memory, so you have lots of space for your files. That’s fantastic for television production, as it’s small enough to be portable, but it has enough storage space for lots of video media. M.2 flash memory cards are used for extreme reliability, high access speeds and zero seek times. Plus the four M.2 cards are arranged in a parallel RAID 0 group so they can operate much faster than a single card. That ensures enough speed to keep up with the 10G Ethernet connection. Plus in the future, as new larger M.2 cards are released, the flash memory cards can be replaced with new ones. That ensures a very long life!
High Performance for Digital Film Files
With a separate very high speed 10G Ethernet connection, Blackmagic Cloud Store Mini is very fast. The internal memory core has been designed to saturate the 10G Ethernet port to its theoretical maximum speed, even with multiple users connected. It’s so fast, most computers cannot keep up! Plus file access is very low latency, so responsiveness is fast. That’s possible because of the parallel processing used by the memory core. Even at maximum speed, the Blackmagic Cloud Store Mini is extremely quiet with very little cooling fan noise. Even when editing large 12K digital film RAW files. It’s so fast, multicam editing is very smooth, even if it’s used with large digital film camera files.
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Ive been using the 8tb cloudstore mini by Blackmagic Design for well over a month and its a pretty awesome device. My review is reflective of how I see the cloudstore minis best use case, being as a networked DAS. But I would like to hear what you all think about the cloudstore mini and whether you are considering buying one....
Great video on the cloud store mini! You deserve way more followers. Love your tutorials.🥰Great work! 👏🔥
Thank you so much 🤗
Wow! That was one impressive & informative video - so Pro production values too! I agree with previous comment - you deserve more views.
Wow, thanks!
Hello. I just discovered your channel and subscribed. Photography sure has changed since I bought my Canon AE-1 in 1979. I have shot some 16mm film back in the day in 1972 with a borrowed camera. In today's time frame I am most intrigued with the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema 6K Pro. I think I will get one after the first of the year. Thanks for your videos.
Oh hi and welcome aboard.
Great Review! One feature I found lacking on my Cloud Mini 8TB was the portable direct USB-C connection to laptop. The back port is only 5Gb/s! Only about 300MB/s on a port to MacBook Pro or PC compared to 10Gb/s over network. Which gets about 800MB/s. Would be nice if this device had a Thunderbolt port for fast direct work when working remote. Only work around is connecting a Thunderbolt to 10Gb network adapter then 10Gb RJ45 to Cloud Mini. Now I am lugging around 2 items in my backpack! For the price it should also have Thunderbolt for direct connect!
Hi Jonathan, If I owned a MacBook pro, the extra equipment required to get the most out of this machine, wouldn't be worth the startup cost. You are correct the back USBC port is lacklustre. It's stable, but notoriously slow.
The only way to use the Cloudstore Mini really is via ethernet cable. Even straight copies via the USBC port are slow. And yes for the price, it should have more storage and thunderbolt.
Other than this, its an awesome product thats super useful.
Good explanation. Now have better understanding of the cloud
Glad to hear that
Two issues I see: expensive, I can get two (2) 4 TB SSD drives for $599; secondly, how do you repair the drive if it goes bad?
It’s bits per second when it’s a lowercase b. You had me confused with the gigabytes! I was wondering how this thing is faster than the 10 Gigabit connection!
wow.. great to know. thq for the informative video
Glad it was helpful!
Another interesting thing I found with the Blackmagic Cloud Store Mini is no support for syncing to Dropbox Team or Business folders. I can't see my Team folder in the Cloud Sync software. Only my personal folders. Bit of a bummer when trying to work with a Team and collaborate, which is what this product is suppose to be about!
Did you set it up with your business account or personal account?
As I say in the review, I would ship a hard drive, its faster.
Logged in with business account but can only see the folder assigned to me and not the Team folder we share. Weird.
@@jonathanbaker5338 Yeah that seems super odd and is probably a dropbox thing, or default setting or something. Strange at the least.
SMB is a network protocol and AFPS is a file system. There's no sense to compare SMB vs AFPS. Probably you mean SMB vs AFP - these both are network file protocols
Yes and No but I totally agree with you.
I did raise these concerns with my contacts at BMD before publishing the review and the information presented in the video is from their direct responses.
Sorry for the confusion.
How do you not have tons more subs
I could ask you the same thing brother. You have an awesome channel!
Need this
Hey buddy, its awesome for one set DIT work, distribution and dailies creation - if under 8tb
It should have PtoP and a slot and modules you can swap in and out with m.2 drives you buy yourself..
That sounds like a great idea. Im pretty sure (cant confirm) that the drives inside are proprietary.
@@EntrNmHre That photo you showed sure looked like it.
@@mrfroopy The one thats part of the transition? Yep almost positive thats proprietary.
Do you plan to make a video using a synology NAS with Davinci Resolve?
HI there I actually had one, but my hard drives weren't compatible so I returned it. Shortly after Synology announced they are slowing moving to priority drives only, as is Qnap.
As I have invested in over 300Tb of hard drives, I went with another solution, being the OWC Thunderbay series which can also be networked with the addition of a card.
Are you using Synology products?
@@EntrNmHre oh wow very interesting! 300tb, crazy haha. I plan using 32tb only with a synology NAS. But I am interesting in the setup, since I only would like to use it lokally with my partner. How to achieve the best results. Using synology Drive? Where to save the database and project files.
@@Norain1992 The database should always be saved on your system disk, but backed up to your NAS or external drive on the regular.
Project files should be saved to the NAS and never to your system disk.
For best results, skip GB and go straight to 10GBe. But this will also depend on whether you are MAC, windows or linux based users. I have expertise with MAC systems ...
@@EntrNmHre okay great, thanks a lot!
We are using windows and Linux. For some reason davinci resolve is working way better on Linux.
@@Norain1992 I think this is because the software is optimised for MAC which is coded from a Linux base. Most of the complaints I get on here over lacklustre performance come from PC users, not Mac or Linux users. Now I understand why you want a server, 2 different types of machines...
Good stuff, but I do find that mike that obscures half your face very disconcerting. Why not have the mike lower down and further away, if your studio/room is quiet enough? Or up and away on a boom? Less proximity effect, but you can EQ how you like in post. Hopefully a constructive comment - no criticism intended.
Nah mate - its all good. You sound like a soundie. Im a director DP.
Solid stone walled French home with solid wooden floor boards creates a reverb nightmare. I have fully sound isolated the room, but even so that didnt do much. The other problem I have is the Rode POD mic to the rodecaster pro audio mixer has a really low signal. I should upgrade to the newer versions. But YT doesnt pay the bills.
Plus Im not a fan of the sound of shotgun mics and they way they render the tone of my voice.
I was thinking of trying a cloudlifter, but for the cost I was thinking - it would be better to invest in the rodecaster mkii. Anyway any other ideas let me know?
Besides do you really want to see more of my ugly mug?
@@EntrNmHre Heheh - yes, a soundie for decades. Wonder how you could tell???!! Full-on recording studio engineer/producer type soundie. Please forgive me if this is telling you stuff you already know, but others who read it may not know. There's a big difference in sound isolation, and sound treatment. Isolation is to stop outside sound getting in (and incidentally, inside sound getting out). Great if you live near a main road, railway, etc. One studio I ran for years was on the banks of a river, and the heavy-duty shipping and barges would generate ultra-low frequency vibrations, well below audible, but would trigger the noise gates, compressors, etc, and could be seen on the meters. That studio ended up with a fully floating floor structure that was insulated from the ground. Won't go into details here, but it was not cheap.
Sound TREATMENT, on the other hand, is controlling and suppressing things like reverberation, unwanted frequency hot spots or dips within the room itself. This may be where you could do something. Try getting an old doona/duvet/ or whatever you call it where you live, and suspending that by ropes BEHIND the camera. Doesn't matter what it looks like. You could also add a couple of acoustic panels behind you, and together, that would minimise reverberation between the wall behind you and whatever is in front of you. Then place the mike either lower or off to the side a bit more, and increase the gain. Rode mikes are outstanding value for money - I have several - but for what you're doing, check out the Shure SM7 and its variants.
You have great content - great audio would complement it :) And the ugly mug would be more visible... ;)
@@The_Doc_Rocks Yes sorry I should have said sound treated the room. The black rectangle things in the shot are sound treatment boards. They literally cover all the walls. The floor is cover in sound blankets from the Uk as is behind the camera. The ceiling (which 120 year old 6 inch rock hard plaster) is also covered in sound treatment panels. I have even gone as far as putting down sound treatment rubber panels under the sound blankets. 3 x sound blankest, 15 sound treat panels and the rubber sound treatment / isolation on the floor - I still need the mic that close to get a good non reverb affected audio recording. A shotgun mic sounds even worse and just requires to much audio sweetening in post. If I owned the property, I would rip out the ceiling and remove the hard wood floors - put in a floating floor and get a designer to create a styled sound treatment for all the walls and ceiling. But even then it would probably still be cheaper to just build a studio from scratch....
When starting out to rig a Blackmagic 6k pro what is a good first lens choice?
That depends on how you shoot. But a good lens to start with would be a Sigma 18-35 F2.8 or a canon 24-105 F4 OS lens. If you have a little bit more money then try a 16-35 Canon EF f2.8. For primes any of the cheaper cine line of Chinese lenses from laowa, Irix, DZO or Meike.
@@EntrNmHre Thank you.
The big takeaway for me is that its 8tb for $2500 and its dumb as a post?! NOPE! Great video though!
Yes the 8TB for me is a head scratcher. It is blazing fast even at 100% capacity. I still cant figure out how Blackmagic has achieved this. I have another 4 NVME M.2 raid zero with very fast SSD's and that bottlenecks on larger transfers. The cloudstore doesn't. I can only assume the drives inside are very special.
And thanks for the positive vibes brother.....