BAT vs KNIFE

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  • @Rikki-Tikki-Tavi
    @Rikki-Tikki-Tavi Před rokem +114

    I really like how these videos are interesting and insightful, but also lighthearted, fun and not overly serious!

  • @elicopter_cc2753
    @elicopter_cc2753 Před rokem +20

    i think quite interesting is that all choosing the bat used it more like a shortsword. They swung it like a bat, yes. But with a bat you would normally not hold in in front of you because you have less time for swinging it back and then down on your opponent. You need it in a position ready to hit your opponent critically. To actually injure your opponent and not let him get to stab you, you would need to hit quite hard on important parts of the body so the knifeperson cant continue his attack, which he is defenitly able to when just hit lightly.

    • @user-xe4xw1ws1n
      @user-xe4xw1ws1n Před rokem +4

      You can still effectively jab with blunt weapons. Use it as a check, then lever with your off hand to bring in a weighted right hook.

  • @KlausBeckEwerhardy
    @KlausBeckEwerhardy Před rokem +34

    The problem with sacrificing the arm is that you do not know, how exactly your body will react to the trauma of perhaps getting both bones in the lower arm shattered. It might be directly debilitating.
    Anyway - quite interesting again. Did something similar with two sais against a European long sword a few years ago. Of course, the sais often come in pairs AND you can use them to hook.

    • @kanetao
      @kanetao Před rokem +4

      Actually, even smashed there is time before you get crushing pain, long enough to get in a stab.

    • @KlausBeckEwerhardy
      @KlausBeckEwerhardy Před rokem +1

      @@kanetao Not necessarily. At least, battle and fight descriprions say so. Depending on the makeup of your neural pathways it can als drop and the trauma might even stop your heart.

    • @equidistanthoneyjoy7600
      @equidistanthoneyjoy7600 Před rokem +7

      Another issue is how solid the hit is. A glancing blow that shatters the elbow and part of the forearm, and you should still be able to charge in. But if it hits you solidly on the elbow and snaps your humerus, you're not gonna be able to charge in. Getting hit like that is like running into a wall, it'll stop you dead in your tracks and make you stumble back; and it's not even a matter of the pain, just how much force it suddenly imparts.

    • @muyodosel1658
      @muyodosel1658 Před rokem

      some people die heartattack from jumpscare, and there are this mfs carrying camrads in bullet rains.

    • @slandergames9494
      @slandergames9494 Před rokem +1

      That's what I was thinking too. Besides that trying to block a metal bat as someone swings might work but I think more often than not the person swinging is trying to put damage into you so your hand/fingers are gonna be crushed.

  • @VTPSTTU
    @VTPSTTU Před rokem +42

    Thanks for another interesting video!
    Much would depend on the individual and the exact dimensions of the bat. They make small bats for fishing where someone can administer a quick kill to a fish with a knock on the head. These bats are very lightweight and just a little bit shorter than the one you used. They would be a good example of what you were using. Some softball bats are also fairly thin and lightweight. They would be longer than the bat you used and would be very effective even when wielded with one hand. Some of the larger baseball bats might be too heavy to use effectively with one hand. That would be a different kind of fight.

    • @quintessenceSL
      @quintessenceSL Před rokem +5

      I'd also wonder about using a bat as a shortened staff.
      A two-handed approach (like a baton) would mean you could defend and attack from either end, and easily transition to a large swing.

    • @TheBetter_LeechPilot
      @TheBetter_LeechPilot Před rokem +2

      Definitely. The bat could've been even longer, confirming easier wins.

  • @kalimatronix
    @kalimatronix Před rokem +7

    "Yeah, why don't you come over and say that to my face, tough guy?"
    "Bonk!"

  • @cullenmontgomery2789
    @cullenmontgomery2789 Před rokem +6

    Just a little insight from Filipino martial arts. For a blunt weapon like a bat to hit hard it's mostly about speed, not distance traveled.
    Speed can also be created by arcing attacks.
    A skilled stick fighter can throw powerful attacks the same way a whip or the one inch punch generates power

  • @niledunn4641
    @niledunn4641 Před rokem +13

    Each weapon has its advantages and disadvantages. I enjoyed watching this experiment

    • @zvotaisvfi8678
      @zvotaisvfi8678 Před rokem +2

      nah, bat is superior.....

    • @FreZonDe5
      @FreZonDe5 Před 6 měsíci

      Tbh if I had a knife and someone came at me with a 32 inch baseball bat, unlike the thing they claim is a bat in the video,
      I would run for my life.

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE Před rokem +21

    Another good training session 👊🏻 personally I would choose the knife even though it limits your range and maybe a real bat will be heavier and also slower to swing

    • @Zaxares
      @Zaxares Před rokem +3

      I think it also matters that the guys whose chose the bat were both taller than the knife wielder, which means they also have a naturally longer reach, further compounding their range advantage.

    • @0MoTheG
      @0MoTheG Před rokem

      But maybe there is a way to swing it that brings it back should you miss?
      Any attack that leaves you exposed must be a sure thing.

  • @Priapos93
    @Priapos93 Před rokem +9

    Everyone seems like they have a lot of fun making these videos! 🖤💙

  • @vashthestampede4716
    @vashthestampede4716 Před rokem +3

    I would prefer the bat or a baton, small staff against a knife.
    In a knife attack situation, the staff is much better for self defende, specially if you use Kali and Silat martial arts.

  • @dannguyen7800
    @dannguyen7800 Před rokem +3

    That prop bat is closer to a real baton than a real baseball bat
    Which is fine by me. I always wanna see a more realistic showdown of the Donnie Yen vs Wu Jing fight scene in SPL Killzone, see how it gonna play out
    And i got it here. Greatly appreciated

  • @kanetao
    @kanetao Před rokem +5

    So an adult baseball bat is longer and heavier. More importantly it can be used two handed like a staff for thrusting attacks as well as double-ended attacks.

  • @dramalexi
    @dramalexi Před rokem +19

    I also like better range rather than speed.

  • @TheNetsrac
    @TheNetsrac Před rokem +2

    Thank you very much for the video
    longer reach will almost always win, it gives the user a huge advantage

  • @BaldKiwi117
    @BaldKiwi117 Před rokem +14

    The bat is an underrated weapon!

  • @NationalRise574
    @NationalRise574 Před rokem +1

    Average London citizen vs Average New Yorker in a nutshell

  • @acaristic93
    @acaristic93 Před rokem +1

    another great and fun video by you folks as always, great to see

  • @mewtube7528
    @mewtube7528 Před rokem +1

    Great video, and quality content! For me it gives an idea of how useful or not an expandable baton or bat can be agaist a knife with the right training. And none of that BS about catching the knife hand

  • @trancamortal
    @trancamortal Před rokem +2

    The knifeman was too intenta on attacking the body. I think that once he had hold of the bat hand, he could hace attacked the arm to neutralizar the weapon, them get freedom to finish the opponent.

  • @mocrazymo6547
    @mocrazymo6547 Před rokem +1

    The problem with every Kendo people I have sparred with is they all stop their attack at the front, they do not follow with the cut. Which is make a lot of mistakes when they use different weapons.

  • @user-zu3ff6lf1v
    @user-zu3ff6lf1v Před rokem +4

    これがバットう術というやつか……。

  • @weaponman3872
    @weaponman3872 Před rokem +3

    We now need nunchucks vs different sized sticks and bats !!!

  • @ze_glitchy_gamer7629
    @ze_glitchy_gamer7629 Před rokem +2

    Slugger Style vs armed thug

  • @eriktarte2743
    @eriktarte2743 Před rokem +2

    When I was sparring amongst my friends, I was regularly forced to fall back to my sidearm knife, and most of the time, it served me better as a projectile

  • @nuclearsimian3281
    @nuclearsimian3281 Před rokem +1

    If someone has a knife, and you have armor, you're still not safe. The single most salient point I ever learned in jujutsu was that someone that's good with a knife will know how to conceal it and you're not leaving without getting wounded, unless you can run faster than they can. I wouldn't engage anyone with a knife with anything shorter than a nuntibo or eku.

  • @64Rosso
    @64Rosso Před rokem +1

    It does knot need to be a heavy baseball bat: even a light escrima stick will serve as well.
    Surely in this kind of fight distance, timing are the most important things... and a longer reach is always welcome! 👍
    Thank you for this video and your mind open to experiment: it's fun to train this way and it teaches a lot.

  • @rustedcactus115
    @rustedcactus115 Před rokem +2

    Great sparring!

  • @iwalkaway
    @iwalkaway Před rokem +4

    really appreciate your content!
    what do you think about inviting some longsword figher once again? it's really interesting to watch japanese schools of swordsmanship vs HEMA

  • @squezze2934
    @squezze2934 Před rokem +1

    I love this channel 👍

  • @takeii_onLife
    @takeii_onLife Před rokem +1

    Getting the feels of the second last fight scene with Wu Jing from Donnie Yen's SPL all over again watching this, although that was with a police baton which is probably less awkward to swing, twist and turn at speed than a real baseball bat.

  • @oppisiteinfamous3124
    @oppisiteinfamous3124 Před rokem +1

    If it were a real sized bat I would choose bat.

  • @AT-gh9js
    @AT-gh9js Před rokem +1

    The weight of a bat is not that much to make it cumbersome in a fight. A wooden bat weighs maybe 29-36 ounces. Aluminum bats weigh even less. In the video the guy with the bat looks more like he’s trying to fence with it rather then using as a clubbing weapon. The bat has huge advantage. It can be held with two hands giving it much more power and with size simply turning wrist adds more powerful impact. It’s disadvantage is if missed with swing you can be open for counter attack. Also the knife is faster and can cut.
    If you are not trained the bat is easier to attack and defend and it’s not even close. For someone who is trained the difference is smaller but the bat still has the advantage.
    On a side the size of the “bat” makes it look more like he’s fighting with a baton which be a very different weapon then a bat

  • @belalabusultan5911
    @belalabusultan5911 Před rokem +1

    I think a bat is stronger, because at worst, you'll break some bone in the opponent before he beats you, and at best you'll break him too much that he can't fight you back.

  • @nonfb
    @nonfb Před rokem +4

    Do long baseball bat vs sword

  • @ElDrHouse2010
    @ElDrHouse2010 Před rokem +1

    knife is a million times more lethal even if its short

  • @Sauvenil
    @Sauvenil Před rokem

    The bat looks kind of short compared to a typical Louisville Slugger.

  • @user-kv3pc9tg9i
    @user-kv3pc9tg9i Před 4 měsíci

    Bat guy very pasive. In fact, baseball bat Is a efectivo weapon againts blades for distance and power.

  • @dominikb8430
    @dominikb8430 Před rokem +1

    Cool video, like always.

  • @wandering_monke
    @wandering_monke Před 7 měsíci +1

    Majima: Why not both ?!

  • @kdefensemartialarts8097
    @kdefensemartialarts8097 Před rokem +1

    Fun

  • @bobrovs1
    @bobrovs1 Před rokem +2

    I apologize, but a fighter with a longer weapon (bat) who does not have the skill to take advantage of the weapon's length is not good fighter.
    In our sparrings longer weapon wielder attacks legs (knees) or hands (especially with weapon) much more often than a head or other body parts.

  • @jorgepluas6837
    @jorgepluas6837 Před rokem

    If you have the bat you roar loudly ....swing first and smash!

  • @mattiedarkmoon817
    @mattiedarkmoon817 Před rokem +1

    Mad Dog Style vs Slugger Style

  • @maximmovie6712
    @maximmovie6712 Před rokem

    I love this and the sparring

  • @ChiangMing-sg8iq
    @ChiangMing-sg8iq Před 4 měsíci

    Dagger is so dangerous. If you can not knock them down, they will just kill you.
    So if you use bats or sticks, you should make sure every strike would disable the guy with knife,

    • @ChiangMing-sg8iq
      @ChiangMing-sg8iq Před 4 měsíci

      Apparently you did this just like this is a scored sport. The Bat man hit the knife girl first, then the knife girl stopped, this is ridiculous if you just do it in real fightg, knife guys would not stop until you knock them down.You hit them first doesn't mean they don't have the ability to stab you.

  • @milkmaxxx2207
    @milkmaxxx2207 Před rokem

    These are insane 😮😤

  • @temporaryname8905
    @temporaryname8905 Před rokem

    I thought "a bat is kind of sjort isn't it? And fluffy. The wings they will break easily."

  • @Thunderlord_Tozn
    @Thunderlord_Tozn Před rokem

    Light taps with a bat, metal or wood, to someone’s head is going to hurt. Not quite sure why light hits don’t count, you can flick your wrist and get the bat to move very quickly over a small distance.

  • @legendarydigitize2523

    Oh look
    Majima Goro's 2 preferred weapons in the Yakuza games

  • @bobsmith-ui8uw
    @bobsmith-ui8uw Před rokem

    Great job!

  • @Starlord2334
    @Starlord2334 Před rokem

    You should do katana vs bat.

  • @e.e.8589
    @e.e.8589 Před rokem

    you should try to stab with the bat. its a powerful attack in stick fighting

  • @garyperkins4557
    @garyperkins4557 Před rokem

    Thrusting a real bat to the face is effective

  • @benjithomas112
    @benjithomas112 Před rokem +1

    The plastic bat was always going to be better since the taller fighters chose chose it though did they have to use 2 hands with the bat though since it was light plastic 1 hand Technique would of been better since the free hand could then be used to stop or disarm the knife

  • @The_Savage_Wombat
    @The_Savage_Wombat Před rokem

    Big knife, almost short sword vs tiny toy bat and looks like bat still wins

  • @cheekibreeki904
    @cheekibreeki904 Před rokem

    So basically Majima vs. Majima

  • @Ssyphoned
    @Ssyphoned Před rokem

    Is that a frostmourne in the background? 2:54
    I wonder what the range on soul theft is?

  • @Jza_Dragon
    @Jza_Dragon Před rokem +1

    You are all so funny and charming

  • @abcdefghijklmn112233
    @abcdefghijklmn112233 Před rokem

    とても面白い実験。動画の剣道家のバットの振り方は頭をちょんと叩く軽い打撃になるからあまり有効打とは言えないが、両手で持ってフルスイングした場合はバットの方が危険。特に袈裟斬りでフルスイングしたらかなり危ないね。袈裟斬りは避けにくいから。ただ、ナイフ持ちがバットスイングを見切って懐に入ることができたらナイフ持ちが有利だし、さらにナイフ持ちがヘルメットをかぶっていた場合、さらに有利になるね。対ナイフの場合、バットよりも警棒の方がいいね。軽いから素早く振れるし、小回りも利く。小手狙いもできる。
    警察の逮捕術のようにこういう乱取りはどんどんやった方がいいね。いろいろと勉強になるわ。

  • @Rotcehuchiha
    @Rotcehuchiha Před rokem +2

    Bravoooo. si sabe español xd felicitaciones saludos desde Colombia me gustan mucho esos vídeos.

  • @lyfe_of_lai
    @lyfe_of_lai Před rokem

    Donnie Yen vs Wu Jing all over again lol

  • @kirkcavenaugh758
    @kirkcavenaugh758 Před rokem

    Cool

  • @user-ge2in4vt9s
    @user-ge2in4vt9s Před 6 měsíci

    Why everyone forgets about throwing knife ??
    A bat or a stick has 0 chance against knife especially throwing knife

  • @herubinek7
    @herubinek7 Před rokem

    4:17 - you guys noticed 22:11 on the clock or is it just me? (synchronised)

  • @YAOZII
    @YAOZII Před rokem +1

    very fun😂 but man that’s a small ass bat, a long baton might do better against a knife

  • @MingChilling-
    @MingChilling- Před rokem

    if you give me a metal bat or a knife i would choose bat, range advantage but also the less skilled weapon (less risk)

  • @HowDawgg
    @HowDawgg Před rokem

    some bat alloys are pretty light aluminm etc how about teating it like a baton shuveeling to thwe lrft or right or in circles while swining left and right

  • @sergiollorenteprados3528

    Bravoooooo

  • @paulst2010able
    @paulst2010able Před rokem

    😃👏👏👏👏👏

  • @valjester8342
    @valjester8342 Před rokem

    Police baton vs Thief knife kinda

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Před rokem

    A very fun video!

  • @siw5316
    @siw5316 Před rokem

    커뮤니티 희대의 난제 빠따 vs 칼을
    실현하셨네요ㅋㅋ

  • @Jkayami
    @Jkayami Před rokem

    me encantan sus videos

  • @JWRame
    @JWRame Před rokem

    That's a kid size bat. The knife needs to be reduced down to a pocket knife

  • @jipouille8880
    @jipouille8880 Před rokem

    J'adore votre chaîne
    Mais ce n'est pas comme ça que l'on se sert d'une batte ,c'est à 2 mains😤.
    Je choisirais le couteau quand même 😽

  • @hernandayolearyallda
    @hernandayolearyallda Před 12 dny

    What is that bat like weapon at 3:02 with the nunchunk thing hanging off the end?

  • @hieronymousblackmane9152

    is it just me or is that a smaller than average bat? like a baseball bat would be bigger or am i hallucinating?

  • @MarshOakDojoTimPruitt

    thanks

  • @Sejah-iw8fo
    @Sejah-iw8fo Před 9 měsíci

    That's a small 38 inch aluminum bat

  • @KenMikaze
    @KenMikaze Před rokem

    what's wrong here is, Kendo boy with a knife is using a false lead against kendo man with the bat, thus, he has a longer distance to reach kendo man. Just my two cents.

  • @kyleg599
    @kyleg599 Před rokem +1

    Bro bat wins I’m hit a home runner with the knife attacker’s head.

  • @storyteller5931
    @storyteller5931 Před rokem +3

    With a real, heavier bat, trying to hit someone with such short swings wouldn't have cause much harm. To cause damage with an heavier bat, the swings would have to be longer, making the attacks much slower.
    And the guy with the knife, should have shortened the distance with his body and stabbing with short thrusts, instead of leaning his body forward and trying to stab with an outstretched arm.

    • @stevenoconnor3256
      @stevenoconnor3256 Před rokem +1

      There's no significant speed difference, bats are top heavy so it's gonna help you follow through. You can thrust with them, smashing a person face. Me and my friend took a wooden bokken and hacked through a tree limb that was thicker then it was. If you understand how to use the bats momentum you can use its own wieght to carry you through multiple swings.

    • @storyteller5931
      @storyteller5931 Před rokem +1

      @@stevenoconnor3256 That is not how physics work. A bat being top heavy will make it more difficult to recover in between swings. A well balanced baton or Dan Bong, would be much better as a weapon.
      What matters truly in the attacks, is the kinetic energy which is mass times velocity squared, and although mass matters, velocity will matter much more. So for a bat swing to produce considerable damage on a target, the swings will have to be longer to have more speed in them, therefore the swings being slower. There is no such thing as short fast swings with a bat and producing much harm, unless the person being attacked is a five years old. Regarding the bokken and the tree limb, unless the bokken was made of much more denser wood than the limb, or got considerable damage too. I call BS on that. Unless you are the sort of person that believes that katanas can cut through metal too.
      I'm an Hapkido instructor with 20+ years under my belt, so I kind of know one thing or two regarding self-defense.
      I was surprised that in the video, both the knife user and that of the bat, didn't shown much expertise in their use.

    • @stevenoconnor3256
      @stevenoconnor3256 Před rokem

      @@storyteller5931 You're still pretty stupid, basically you over swing so much that you carry through to the next one. Basically swing the bat in a full circle,you should understand if something is top heavy once you get it up to a certain point its weight will assist you in the swing. Take any stick you find in the backyard and then use it instead of a wooden bokken, a wooden bokken will break it 90% of the time. I'm very good at picking my wooden bokken, I always pick the ones that have weight to them. Only ever had one break and that's because I hit a giant log with it.

    • @storyteller5931
      @storyteller5931 Před rokem

      @@stevenoconnor3256 Your lack of self awareness is mind-blowing.
      By doing 360 degrees swings, the only thing you will do, is for most most of the time, managing to have the bat pointing away from the target, giving the defender ample time to avoid the swings by either retreating of closing the distance making the bat useless as a weapon.
      If you are gonna hit dry or rotten sticks, sure they'll break at the expense of damaging the bokken too, no matter how god it is. But I have no clue at what you think is being achieved by hitting any kind of tree branches or sticks with a bokken.
      That only shows you have no clue of what you are doing. Cutting mats with a katana, allows someone to see how clean a cut is, thus allowing to improve the technique. Hitting tree branches not so much. That you once even tried to hit a giant log with a bokken, thinking that anything but a broken bokken would be achieved, says volumes.
      But carry on the good work, of hitting trees. 🤣

    • @stevenoconnor3256
      @stevenoconnor3256 Před rokem

      @@storyteller5931 The baseball bat is heavy so you tend to over swing it, you make yourself vulnerable so the good technique is to use the momentum of the bat so you can quickly attack with it again. Do you think combat with a mace was filled with blocks and parries, they would use its weight and momentum to ultimately attack again because it's heavy. All you have to do is pick up a ball bat and understand that it's hard to stop a full swing. All my wooden bokken ever got was slight chip damage, literally sparred with the same wooden bokken for like 10 years. It's called good wood

  • @gorogorogoro_chan
    @gorogorogoro_chan Před rokem +1

    Majima vs Majima?

  • @notalpha8280
    @notalpha8280 Před rokem

    Why does the clock say you are filming at 10 o’clock at night?

  • @FelicityDyertyu
    @FelicityDyertyu Před dnem

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  • @Heyrock
    @Heyrock Před rokem

    This is not the way to use the bat.
    Invite someone with pekiti skills
    They specialize in sticks and knives

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    @CamillaAngela-s6d Před 2 dny

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  • @TomasPrimoYasper
    @TomasPrimoYasper Před rokem

    Bat vs. machete 🤔

  • @Mephiston1984LoD
    @Mephiston1984LoD Před rokem

    🙂

  • @MildredRubio-s6g
    @MildredRubio-s6g Před 3 hodinami

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    @GenevieveWhite-r6n Před 5 dny

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  • @francescolepori3784
    @francescolepori3784 Před rokem

    Falling Down

  • @OriginalEye2072
    @OriginalEye2072 Před rokem

    대가리 알루미늄 배트 맞고 이미 기절, 칼은 리치가 짧음. 진짜 목숨 걸고 한번 해보길.

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  • @spanishinquisition7623

    Hard to say which one would be better, and of course there are many factors to consider as with any weapon matchup. I think that if the knife fighter can get close enough to the bat fighter it’s likely a win for the knife fighter but if the bat fighter can successfully keep range it’s a win for them. But I think the biggest disadvantage of the bat is that is not weighted as an effective club for killing people, so even keeping the knife fighter at range is not an easy task because of how unbalanced they are as weapons.
    I think in this matchup, I’d prefer the knife, but I feel like I would still be facing a great deal of uncertainty facing an opponent with a bat.

    • @Sauvenil
      @Sauvenil Před rokem

      Just wondering if you've swung a typical baseball bat before. It is weighted as an effective club.

  • @DefoeBrian-x9m
    @DefoeBrian-x9m Před 6 dny

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  • @guywithmanyname5247
    @guywithmanyname5247 Před rokem

    Just hit the hand not the body or head take advandatge of your reach

  • @Pancake327
    @Pancake327 Před rokem

    The bat wins this one

  • @johnmartinez5228
    @johnmartinez5228 Před rokem

    El murciélago tiene más alcance y sus golpes son más contundentes

  • @bansheep1
    @bansheep1 Před rokem

    Isnt that bat too tiny...