The ABANDONED STI RIPS HARD!
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- We swap a Tomei Equal Length Header and head back to the dyno for a comparison of equal vs unequal length headers.
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Left lane campers. One of the reasons why we can't have an autobahn in North America.
DanteEightSix But they are doing the speed limit! Lol It’s a PASSING lane. Signs all over the highway agree.
@@dancarlos1216 Is that how it is in Canada? I know some parts of the US are like that; however, in California the left lane is just another lane and considered to be the fast lane. We do have signs posted stating, "Slower traffic keep right" but the campers just don't leave or never learn to move right if a vehicle behind is approaching.
mrunabout I’m in Ohio.
All of the 400 series highways in the GTA and Niagara area are awful for this. We have some pretty bad drivers.
Or maybe the lack of Autobahn is why you have left lane campers?
Damn! And here I thought octane booster was just piss in a can 😂😂
It's not universally effective, only as a concept. Torco and Boostane work very well as well
That's what I have read/ been told
The real octane boosters aren't cheap.
TommyLYeah - Darkwraith Kaid 🌽 is
this has been an awesome project to watch :) thank you guys x
Happy that the fog covers fits great! Keep up the good work guys!! :D
Sicnarf_R Thank you again! They worked out great!!
Just wanted to thank you guys for all your hard work! You inspired me to start my own car channel. I can’t wait to see more from you guys! Cheers 🍻
This was such a fun build to follow. Really cool guys!
I love the wrapping of the header just relaxing for some reason
Man it rips!!!! You guys are going to enjoy that power!! My galant vr4 made 440awhp before I turned it up and I love it!
Considering where this car came from you guys did awesome!
I love that feeling. Its a rollercoaster at your fingertips lol
Awesome Conquer shirt! Great video, guys.
Having previously tracked an Audi B5 S4 with 500whp, Ohlins, LSD, etc / etc, my 2 cents would be to build a track boost file that you can go WOT at corner apex - make WOT at the corner apex as your boost spike benchmark test. From experience, this type of file will create an initial boost spike to 12/13 psi and then linearly ramp boost / the WG cycle until redline as opposed to a 18/20 boost spike (or higher) and then a slight taper to redline. The car will be faster on track and more confidence inspiring to find the limits of the car. I'm not sure of the quality or what is going on with your car's rear LSD but I would also personally upgrade / tune this aspect of the car to get the rear of the car dialled in - it made a huge difference on my S4 on track
I am about to get my AWD 535xi retuned for new fueling mods that allow me to make over 600awhp on 100% E85 finally (I will see how cooling goes at that power on the track, I may turn it down and follow your recommendations for a track map if needed). My car's center diff is electronic and people have "cracked" it so you can tune it now on the fly anywhere between 50/50, to RWD, to custom mappings based on slip/speed n shit. So what I am asking is how much did a rear LSD change how your car felt? also how did you pick what brand and kind of LSD you got in respect to being AWD with moderate track use? I am going to buy one based on the fact that I am going to run AWD sometimes when really pushing the car, but I also have the option of being RWD and the LSD would help in both aspects.
I wont be pushing super hard until I have a big brake kit installed, or until I can safely determine where brake fade starts happening in a safe manor, but I like to upgrade my car with my future intentions of basically beating the shit out of it on the track someday.
Honest question what is WOT?
@@maze2756 Wide Open Throttle
@@shazmaster ohhh duhhh Sher I feel dumb now lol mind ya it is 2.40am here
sti rear diff is pretty good stock, and it has a diff controller to change ratio of power to the front and rear wheels
your wasting that turbo on petrol boys. i run e85 on my ej25, and at 28 psi it was still going. we had to pull timing to protect the clutch also. made 470hp at the wheels, with a huuuuuuuge hole in the intercooler.
it was that big, that after tuning and pulling boost back to 25/26psi i found the hole, welded it up and the same duty made 34psi.
my engine is only rated to 400hp, but keen to get it back on the dyno to see the difference. 30 psi on e85 should be phenomenal!
of course, yours is only a 2.1, but the gains from a flex tune would be substansive. the g30 770 is too big and laggy for that engine in my opinion. all the best guys, hope to see a flex tune on the next vid, ive loved the series so far :)
E85 is next to impossible to find in Canada. I've never seen it in Alberta, just the weird high-ethanol "94" octane gas at Husky that doesn't run very well in my STi. The 91 octane no-ethanol gas at Shell is much more consistent.
@@evilspoons shell's 91 is some high quality stuff , been using for 2 years and it makes a noticeable diffrence from other station's 91
@@TheFukahater agreed...I tried Petro's 94 and it feels sluggish compared to shells 91
Erik Tomlinson there’s 1 e85 station in Calgary about 40 mins from me
Killer episode as always. Keep it up!
Awesome stuff guys.
Love Pete’s face after the street pull
Always a pleasure seeing a wrx making the power it deserves !
What's crazy is that boxer engines are capable of doing 150hp/L yet subaru insists not to even come close fo that. Sux they dont make more hp from stock
I had a 1984 Ford EXP with a tiny 1.6L engine, 2bbl carb, and it came factory with a 4-1 header on it.
At 13:20 you break that f150s guys neck like 5 times lol
He even rolled the window down to hear it. Then rolled it back up.
Huh!? Looks like dude just rolled his window up and was trying to move over. I highly doubt he cared anything for the car.
every time i hear the STI intro music, i can't help getting into my B-boy stance and knodding my head
I had a boost creep/fuel cut issue(very common with Subaru’s). Pro Subaru tuner Mike from Cobb told me my turbo was blown. I wouldn’t take advise from him fellas
Before and after track runs with a full under tray. aka flat bottom. or step it up start at front, then add rear, then middle.
That's sick, what turbo are you running on that?
Now you send me that uel header ;-)
In my 2004 forester XT with an IAG built 2.5L motor, when i went to Equal length header, most of the power increase was from 3-5k rpm with a vf48 turbo and top mount intercooler. It looks like your power band starts at the late 4's due to the front mount/turbo setup, so you did not see much of a difference with the new header. just my 0.02
Great build guys. Love the channel. Any opinions if the style dynometer used biased hp slightly high compared to a mustang dynometer? I'm assuming measuring hp without the wheels would result in a minor difference. Just curious. Just an FYI I think you should be happy with those numbers. I'm getting similar hp with a similar set up in my 2014 wrx, but with a built ej25 with cams and e85....so getting almost the same hp out of an ej20 is def respectable.
Everytime I see the name “Abandoned STi” I’m always getting a minor scare thinking, “oh crap are they going to abandon/scrap her?”
I was hoping to see more of the sti :( this is the last video with it. Wonder if they sold it. The purchaser is one lucky guy/gal!
That looks so damn fun.
You look a lot like the actor DJ Qualls during the in car footage at the end.
Im pretty uneducated with Subaru motors but equal length headers seem healthier and better for horse power for these motors. Rumble be gone. I have a 18 wrx and im cool with my sound and reliable daily driver.
@Sho Yu Weeni that's literally the point ive been making.
I think engineering explained mentioned the exhaust pulses stack up as well in the uel headers. If he didn't, sorry.
Cobb definitely does have some of the best customer service
14:20 Pete hooning the streets of Canada.
How did you guys get the intake snorkel to fit with the Cobb fmic. I've tried to fit mine but it's nowhere close to fitti g
your tomei exhaust manifold is leaking exhaust thru the flex joint. i welded my tomei equal length flex joint on my turbo frs and made more whp.
Never knew KEEMSTAR could tune 😆
Guys pumping out vids like its your job!
Nice!!
@Speed Academy. Did you ever put the skid plate under the motor ?
That's was a really long vp octane booster commercial
Still crazy that this makes that much power on pump gas.
Since y'all are FMIC you should swap the hood out for something that actually pulls heat out on the track instead of shoving the heat back in with that (now nonfunctional) scoop
Heat goes out the bottom as it normally would
The hood is still pulling in fresh air where it matters.
@@dan4age Airflow underneath is not going to do a very good job of sucking air out of the engine bay, something like an evo hood does a better job at extracting heat
"Shoving the heat back in" Lol.. Unless you have some aero tunnel/thermal camera schematics/images that shows your assumption, that makes no sense. The cool ambient air comes through the scoop, mixes with the hot bay air, then is dragged out underneath the car... Especially during highspeeds/track racing. The faster you go, the more vacuum is created.
@@TTime685 this is just from my experience with my 09 sti before #4 came a knockin. Went fmic, spent a day at the track and hit about 255-265 farenheit (oil temp). Pulled over and noticed it was taking forever to get back to normal operating temps (around 205 at idle, 220-230 being pushed hard). Decided to swap the hood with a buddy of mine, who had an impreza hood with a few big vents cut in it, the next weekend and barely graced over 240 the whole day. Thought process was sure, the scoop is bringing air in but the second it hits the compartment it's hitting engine/firewall and doesn't really have a lot of room to move through and under the car. Whereas, with the vents, air was being sucked out (in the direction the heat wants to go normally anyways, up) faster and more efficiently dissipating the heat out at a stop when no air is moving through to push the heat down and out (hit a high of somewhere around 245 and by the time I stopped, did a quick walk around, and got back in the temp had dropped to normal). Wasn't trying to say that this is a must do mod or something I've researched fully, just something I ran into and found to work. Hell, it'd be cool to see them do an operating temp comparison on the track of the stock hood and a vented one
Maybe stage 2 gsc cam? But that things only pulls hard at mid and high rpm.. nothing at the bottom of rev range
do you guys run the reverse coolant mod? this cools the cylinder head better by cyl 4 and helps prevent ring land failure!
Yes and no
you look like ringland failure
@@iToxicTritton Go play some video games, loser
@@TTime685 nobody even talking to you you freak. Clown ass kid
Turn 14 sells the AEM water-meth kit. Use that to help with the knock, to keep IAT's down, and help increase efficiency without spending a ton for a turbo, unless you guys want that new gt30
I use that vp when I'm not on e85
NV keeping the 3 bolt manifold🙏🙏🙏
As much as I love my 12 Wrx Sti, watching this series progress, the amount of money and effort for such minimal power returns and the extent of work needing to be done, man is it hard to justify.
I've discussed this same point with people on previous videos. A bone stock LS3 with just a cam swap makes this power, and it would run forever.
HSB a bone stock LS3 with a retune will make more power then this lol
@@sleeper.simulant7327 you're not getting 100hp from a tune.
JerOutlaw I had the same issue with my Subaru and now my Speed6. 300 whp is easily attainable with bolt ons, but going above 400 means built block. And 500 whp impossible with custom port injection on a aftermarket intake mani coupled with the stock direct injection... all in all, over 10k in mods for 500 whp...
HSB a LS3 will see 375-400 whp stock depending the the year/model/atmospheric conditions... some basic breather mods and tune will put a LS3 in the 420-450 whp range, again dependent on model/conditions...
I watched that pull and immediately started pricing out a build for my STI to get the same numbers.
Then I looked at my bank account and cried a bit...
Chris Hale best way.. sell it and buy an evo 🤣
@@hybridEP3 Shots fired!!! lol
Sell it, buy a Evo, and make 500 whp on the stock block reliably
So true what you guys said above. I personally like the Subie for the rumble. But if thats taken away due to ELH, may aswell just get an EVO which will always make 20-30% EXTRA POWER over the EJ for the same money invested into mods.
Mr. H as a engineer I think the rumble is a design flaw since it’s inefficient and robs performance
what size injectors
Might want to sit on the redline a little longer hahahaha
are you guys running the 2.0 jdm version of the sti motor?....if so where did you get it from?!
They built the motor. EJ207 is from japan. You can buy the case halves online and ships from US. They had theirs closed deck.
You guys hiring a clean up guy? I'd imagine w/ as many times as you name dropped "Mike w/ COBB tuning" it must hard to work w/ the mess on the floor 🤣
Pete's a hoarder, Dave doesn't have as much cars. Let Dave have it! Love you both, but jus t saying, lol!
Rip Jackie Dings A80 ;(
You won't have to put octane booster if you guys install water/meth. I think that would make more power and clean the engine at same time. Numbers are good. 👍👍
It would be very interesting if you could bring the car to Sasha and get him to check the tune. At least in Germany these kinds of tunes have a really bad reputation
On e85 you could run that turbo at 35psi making 500 whp easy. Turbo is not the choke point, pump gas is.
Do you even know what size turbo they are running?
He said 21c is hot hahahaha. If u come to the caribbean where a normal day is 33c you'll melt lol
Lol the only reason you run octane booster on track days is for added safety as you can’t always trust the pump octane rating on pump VPower etc. It’s a serious false economy to assume the octane booster should have its own map. You want real safety go e85.
Oh and running octane booster soon destroys plugs so you will need to swap them out more regularly.
Finally a must on any track Subaru is a large LED knock light. That is unless the Cobb pulls timing instantly on knock threshold events.
You cant get e85 at the pump in Canada. Though their shop is in Hamilton which is like an hour from the border
@@trigun989 You can definitely get E85 at a few stations out here in BC.
@@MitchBowman ahh didnt know. they shut down the last station with it in ontario a few years ago thought it was part of legislation for canada but maybe just ontario or just no incentives like usa
Love the GR STI's. Awesome results from opening a can of whoop-ass!
It really sounds like an NA ej25 with that tomei header at full chat
Kirk Blackadar I prefer the sound of a EL, less gritty, less like lawn tractor
@@sleeper.simulant7327 lawn tractor? a lawn tractor surely cant make car alarms go off to its exhaust sound lmfao
thefukahater UEL’s sound like a lawn tractor lol. And making car alarms go off doesn’t mean the car is powerful or fast lol
License place says it - Chieftain
be careful with wrapping the headers, if you have a power steering leak or any leak of flammable engine fluids they get soaked up by the wrap and cause a fire hazard.
and don't use the plastic splash guard.
Why are you guys stuck on Tomei? If it's a brand sponsorship I understand, but HKS and KillerB make much better headers.
Look at around 13 minutes, he's wearing a Tomei t-shirt.
Alexander Killer B ftw!!
Tomei has always made quality stuff nothing wrong with it.
Killer B holy header ftw.
the equal length hks header is not that nice of a piece
So glad we get 99 fuel from pump in the uk 😁
99 is the us and canada 93... no different
Equal length headers means nothing after 2007. The dual exhaust piping kills the benefits. Look at the Dyno chart 6750 he's done.
75whp lost. That means he has to shift at 6750 or he starts slowing down. That is why the Ferrari starts catching him towards the end of the race.
Equal lengths headers works for 02-07 because of the straight pipes. At higher RPM's the exhaust gases don't collide in the up pipe. This increases the volumetric efficiency allowing the exhaust gases to vacate the cyclinder at high RPM maintaining high end HP.
What scary is my 02 WRX does 327whp @ 11PSI to red line with a little drop off at 7500. lol
It's an EJ207 from japan. They started with freshly closed decked case halves and built the thing from the ground up. It's fully built. Not sure why they didn't go with the EJ257 like the car previously had.
Now those tail lights need to be wrapped to complete the build!
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I thought the car was sold?
You're better off throwing in about 10-30% ethanol as an octane booster so you don't burn out your plugs
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Awesome! Thank you!!
Hi guys 🖐 thought I was gona see a m3 today lol 😭👍👍
Who's gonna be the daily driver of the daily driver. That's the question.
Run corn, your motor will be much happier, especially on the track
Or you can go 2020 Zupra 🤣😍✨✨
Im actually wished you guys swapped twinscroll turbo exhaust housing and equal lenght twinscroll header...
The instant respond and spool at every/any throttle input and rpm is superior than single scroll turbo setup
Amir Pomen imagine a Borgwarner 7163 EFR twin scroll setup, those EFR turbos have the best transient response for there perspective sizes, spool would be immediate lol
Bruh is that Keemstar? 😂
FUCK YES!
Those octane boosters will make your plugs Orange
wooo
Malaysia has RON 100!!!
And sound...... :-)
So why would tomei make an unequal length header if equal length is better?
One isnt better than the other, its the application really.
Soooo, how much for that UE Header? 😏
kelly bumatay save your money and get a EL manifold from Killer B. Look up vids if you don’t believe me, best manifold on the market for Subaru
No rumble? Sad sad 😕
It sounds awful.
It's equal length headers compared to the UEL we're accustomed to
Rumble is artificially created, you can give a Honda D series rumble with UEL header lol. UEL’s are a stupid design from a engineering standpoint. They are inefficient, and cause performance and reliability issues. EL’s are the only option for a track build. With a re tune this car would have made quite a bit more power, with EL’s you can advance timing without having to worry about leaning out and busting a ringland cylinders 2/4. Only ricers care about the rumble, it’s not worth having...
Could've just kept the unequal and just gotten a dom3 for way cheaper
What about 900HP
Still Think its a low number for a 660 hp turbo...
660 is ideal conditions, ie race fuel, high flowing heads etc
Considering its 425 at all 4 hubs it's over 500hp at the engine
Lucky me that i have gsc stage 2 cams, ported heads and e85 then 😊
You guys should add a meth kit from AEM Electronics
Yes and no
5 evo owners watched this video
More power less soul. Don't be equal.
Drbudweiser aftermarket UEL’s are the ultimate ricer setup. Sacrificing power, efficiency and reliability for sound, something a ricer would do... if they returned the car you would see faster more violent spool, and better top end gains. With EL’s you can advance timing quite a bit more without having to worry about leaning cylinders 2/4 out....
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BoostTane.... :-)
I hope this was sponsored by VP. If not...maybe a new partner/sponsor?
No sponsorship at all, would be great to get one though!
The subie engine would need a better breathing cylinder heads to make that top end power. Comparing this STi and S2000 at same psi levels an s2000 gets around 600whp+ with stock cams etc.
Subaru heads flow air like a straw 😆
Thatnortherns2k not really a fair comparison, Honda builds some of the best flowing 4 cylinders stock vs stock, there engineering has always been a few steps ahead...
Like i said on the last comment, boost the k silvia stock engine to make this exact power just for flex
ichi husni those KA’s coupled with a Borgwarner EFR can put down some thick power bands, they spool hard and fast
@@sleeper.simulant7327 honda k man, not ka. They have one k 240.
ichi husni you said Silvia so I assumed ka24de which can handle quite a bit of boost
Unexpectedly high amount of people crying about the rumble - I happen to like the new shriek
Wrapping manifolds does more harm than good. It makes the cylinder head hotter building up heat and leads to detonating as the heat can’t radiate out from the manifold so this building up heat in the cylinder head.
I'm wondering why they just don't have a ceramic coating put on it, instead.
Actually it does the opposite as the hot side of the turbo gets hotter which makes it spool quicker and run more efficiently and extracts the hot exhaust gases quicker so win-win.
RipJawsX 95 I disagree think what you are saying. Yea I agree the hotter the better the turbo spooks. But wrapping the manifold retains the heat in the cylinder head which brings on detonation. This is more important than a quicker spool.
Terry Hesticles cost of ceramic coating vs manifold wrap.
Actually fitting the Tomei manifold made next to no difference waste of money it’s what I expected.