Melodic Death Metal vs Metalcore (Feat. Markus Vanhala of INSOMNIUM & OMNIUM GATHERUM)

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  • čas přidán 29. 07. 2024
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    This time around, I'm joined by Markus Vanhala of the bands Insomnium and Omnium Gatherum to trade some riffs and compare Melodic Death Metal to the Melodic variety of Metalcore (which is directly inspired by the 90's Melodic Death Metal scene). I've been planning to do this video with Markus since December of last year, but him being such a busy person, it took a long time to get it done properly. We finally made it happen and I'm really happy with it. Hope you enjoy it (I also dig that Markus showed off by using a different guitar for every clip hehe).
    Mix and master done by myself too.
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    Track list:
    0:00 At The Gates - Cold
    0:24 Darkest Hour - The Sadist Nation
    0:46 Children of Bodom - Downfall
    1:15 Killswitch Engage - Reject Yourself
    1:47 In Flames - Bullet Ride
    2:08 All That Remains - Six
    2:37 Soilwork - Bastard Chain
    2:59 As I Lay Dying - Confined
    3:42 Insomnium - While We Sleep
    4:15 August Burns Red - White Washed
    4:36 Omnium Gatherum - Friction
    4:59 Parkway Drive - Wild Eyes
    Gear Used:
    - ESP LTD M-10
    - Warwick Corvette $$ 5-string bass
    - Omega Granophyre by Neural DSP
    - Parallax by Neural DSP
    - Toontrack EZDrummer 2
    - Kickforge by Joey Sturgis Tones
    - Ernie Ball Cobalt strings (10-52) (45-130)
    - Dunlop Jazz III XL Tortex Flex 0.88 mm picks
    - Happy Cables
    - Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 interface
    - Ableton Live 11
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Komentáře • 135

  • @jojoplaysmusic
    @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem +27

    So what are YOUR favorite Melodic Death Metal bands and Metalcore bands?

    • @sam.n7762
      @sam.n7762 Před rokem +4

      i really dont like Metalcore. Melodic Death Metal maybe Sarcofago and Blasphemy

    • @wheelsofmercury
      @wheelsofmercury Před rokem +6

      Melodic Death Metal: Intestine Baalism, Grenadier, (two of the instrumental tracks of) Arghoslent, Dungeon Serpent, the first At The Gates album
      2000's Metalcore: Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, August Burns Red, Bullet For My Valentine
      2010's Metalcore: old Asking Alexandria, old Bring Me The Horizon, the last three The Devil Wears Prada albums, Currents, the second EP of Polaris, the new Invent Animate album, Landmvrks

    • @_FrankMatthews_
      @_FrankMatthews_ Před rokem +4

      Not a big fan of melodic metalcore, but Undoing Ruin by Darkest Hour is a really good album.

    • @deathmetal0073
      @deathmetal0073 Před rokem +3

      Favorite metalcore is none. Amon Amarth and Carcass are my favorite MD bands. I don’t get the hype of At the Gates.

    • @monsi6663
      @monsi6663 Před rokem +6

      At the Gates -Slaughter of the Soul was the Template for both

  • @MarcoNorthlightRoma
    @MarcoNorthlightRoma Před rokem +64

    Markus Vanhala is the main songwriter of "Insomnium Gatherum", but he chose "While We Sleep" by Ville Friman and "Friction" by Mikko Kivistö: great humbleness

    • @jojoplaysmusic
      @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem +17

      Also, having mixed his tracks, it made me realize how tight of a player he is.

  • @MrJingles021
    @MrJingles021 Před rokem +38

    Melodic death metal is my favorite. And Markus is great. Insomnium is one of my favorite bands.

    • @jojoplaysmusic
      @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem +4

      Markus is fantastic! Being able to mix his guitars and listen to them in isolation showed me how tight he is.

  • @zdf14
    @zdf14 Před rokem +85

    Let's not look past the fact that you chose the great early wave of metalcore for your picks. Definitely had some great riffage and song writing in those days.

    • @jojoplaysmusic
      @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem +12

      Thanks man! I grew up with that genre, so I must have some deep cuts.

    • @xhellscythex
      @xhellscythex Před rokem +8

      Early metalcore? Maybe you mean melodic metalcore, because early metalcore is Integrity, Earth Crisis and blah blah blah. If you look that it's melodic metalcore, then there are tracks from 2003-2009, early melodic metalcore is Undying, Prayer For Cleansing, Aftershock, Intercede.

    • @red420noscope
      @red420noscope Před 11 měsíci +4

      ​@@xhellscythexearth crisis has some dope stuff

    • @cosmicthroes
      @cosmicthroes Před 9 měsíci

      ​@xhellscythex you forgot Cradle of Filth

    • @DimaNSK-vy4br
      @DimaNSK-vy4br Před 4 měsíci

      No​@@red420noscope

  • @user-jo5vy8iw3l
    @user-jo5vy8iw3l Před rokem +16

    Some other honorable mentions.
    Melodic-death:Amon Amarth, Arch Enemy, The Black Dahlia Murder, Mors Principium Est, Dark Tranquility, Orbit Culture, Avatar, Hypocrisy, Carcass
    Metalcore:Bullet For My Valentine, early Avenged Sevenfold, Atreyu, Trivium, Unearth, Shadows Fall, Caliban,Bury Tommorow, Ice Nine Kills, God Forbid, Architects

  • @mkh0sajjad
    @mkh0sajjad Před rokem +22

    Omg. That's unbelievable. I love Markus... It really happened. Congrats, that's an amazing Collab.❤

  • @Enkelriktad123
    @Enkelriktad123 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Melo death slays every other metal genre by far dude

  • @robilarifin2758
    @robilarifin2758 Před 28 dny +2

    2000's metalcore is awesome but, the Melodeath is just "Beyond".
    Thanks to : InFlames, CoB, A7X, Killswitch, DT, Insomnium, ATG, BeLakor, Kalmah, HSB, Parkway Drive, and all 🤘

  • @l3p395
    @l3p395 Před rokem +14

    Aka Finland and Sweden vs Australia and the US

  • @wallbarr
    @wallbarr Před rokem +28

    Great video and such a sick collab. Markus has some really sweet guitars!

    • @jojoplaysmusic
      @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem +3

      I’m extreme jealous of his Jackson guitars collection

  • @verminblood8658
    @verminblood8658 Před rokem +15

    really cool that markus is playing some of his own riffs aswell, amazing video!

    • @jojoplaysmusic
      @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem +3

      Hey thank you so much! And of course! He must include himself too.

    • @verminblood8658
      @verminblood8658 Před rokem +3

      @@jojoplaysmusic did he pick the riffs or how did it go? did he know all the riffs already and just quickly recorded a playthrough or what?:)

    • @jojoplaysmusic
      @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem +4

      @@verminblood8658 I let him choose what he wanted to play, then he sent me his list for confirmation. I don’t know if he already knew all the songs or if he learned them for the video, but he did program his own drums and recorded guitar and bass. I did all the mixing and mastering.

  • @FutschasAnanas
    @FutschasAnanas Před rokem +2

    sick collab!!!! I love it!

  • @psychosis8429
    @psychosis8429 Před rokem +1

    Dude I love this video. These are some of my favorite bands so I'm very satisfied with your picks

  • @muss_calli7770
    @muss_calli7770 Před rokem

    OMG!Markus!!!! playvideo?!! I'm soo happy😂

  • @wolfiesenpai
    @wolfiesenpai Před 4 měsíci +1

    A fan of both (especially when they have both clean and harsh vocals). I'm just here to headbang to sick riffs.

  • @borealirithyll
    @borealirithyll Před rokem +2

    OMG, IT'S GORGEOUS!

  • @PopUpPirate1975
    @PopUpPirate1975 Před rokem +3

    Great vid, watched for Markus then appreciated your playing and taste. And that Morbid Angel t-shirt is SO super new - needs a few washes to look aged haha!

    • @jojoplaysmusic
      @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem

      Hahaha thank you so much! Yeah I take good care of my metal merch, I want it to last me years.

  • @kbottrill1
    @kbottrill1 Před 28 dny

    I also have a special appreciation for Metalcore as it was the first time I heard metal music that I really enjoyed as a youngster, bands like Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, As I Lay Dying, August Burns Red, Parkway Drive in mid-to-late 2000's. I also got love for Unearth, Bleeding Through, Shadows Fall, and a small handful of others that are still around. My favorite Melodeath bands have got to be In Flames, At the Gates, The Black Dahlia Murder, Heaven Shall Burn, and Neaera.

  • @atvena
    @atvena Před rokem +4

    You can really tell how darkest hour became a melodic death metal band and not metalcore

  • @MaelstromTheDemon
    @MaelstromTheDemon Před 4 měsíci +1

    Favorite Melodeath Bands: Children Of Bodom, Omnium Gatherum, Insomnium, In Flames, Dark Tranquillity
    Honorable Mentions: Soilwork, Mors Principium Est, Amorphis, Kalmah, Bloodred Hourglass, Horizon Ignited, Black Dahlia Murder, Scar Symmetry, Before The Dawn (I could keep going but It'd be a wall lmao)
    Favorite Metalcore Bands: All That Remains, Killswitch Engage, Bleed From Within, Threat Signal, As I Lay Dying
    Honorable Mentions: Spiritbox, Parkway Drive, (old) Asking Alexandria, (old) Bring Me The Horizon, August Burns Red, Of Mice And Men, Unearth

  • @donhunt3r441
    @donhunt3r441 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Love Markus, Omnium Gatherum has been my fav band forever

  • @ravensflight2965
    @ravensflight2965 Před 10 měsíci

    Love both

  • @FLOURISHFAMILYENT
    @FLOURISHFAMILYENT Před 2 měsíci

    Love it!

  • @trroland1248
    @trroland1248 Před 2 měsíci

    Oh no! Thank you Jojo, for making this great music.

  • @AndyRec
    @AndyRec Před rokem +6

    Damn Markus has some cool Jacksons

  • @GNNCDU
    @GNNCDU Před 4 měsíci +1

    for melodic death metal that are great: Children of Bodom, inflames, ablaze my sorrow, at the gates, dark tranquility, callenish circle, sentenced, god dethroned, stortregn, arch enemy, and beneathe just to name a few.

  • @satanicpuppyoverlord9054

    Idc what you think of metalcore. The intro to six and darkest hour's early discography are amazing. That's coming from someone who cares little for most metalcore.

  • @Laveritenestpasdecemonde

    Hey Markus good to see you

  • @TheSilentWalkerz
    @TheSilentWalkerz Před rokem +5

    They’re both really similar genres.
    I miss Norther.

    • @havenless3551
      @havenless3551 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Melodic Metalcore is its own subgenre which pulls from Melodeath. A lot of Darkest Hour’s stuff can easily fit into that category

  • @AUM_-po9sc
    @AUM_-po9sc Před 5 měsíci +1

    Okay, those are some tight choices by Markus, ngl.

  • @b.entranceperium
    @b.entranceperium Před rokem +1

    Honestly, this all sounds like melodeath to me. Cool Morbid Angel shirt

  • @fichshreds2661
    @fichshreds2661 Před rokem +2

    Dude got Markus Vanhala on video lol great!

  • @SpartanLaserCanon
    @SpartanLaserCanon Před 9 měsíci +2

    Melodic Death Metal is one of my favorite genres. It's Death Metal, but with more accesible and easier listening stuff. Early Killswitch Engage is some of my favorite Metalcore and I don't like many Metalcore bands. I also like August Burns Red.

  • @denizozturk1453
    @denizozturk1453 Před 2 měsíci

    Markus Vanhala raise an army, then we will fight for him!

  • @kangaroocaliphate1577
    @kangaroocaliphate1577 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I like both but In Flames, insomnium and Dark Tranquillity changed my life. Also At The Gates laid down the riffs. Let's not bicker and enjoy this amazing music.
    Melodic death metal was lacking the groove of hard-core but metalcore never reach the imaginative heights of Melo death. Thy are different and great.

    • @robilarifin2758
      @robilarifin2758 Před 28 dny +1

      yes the Gothenburg trio is awesome and really satisfying.

  • @NickRiffs
    @NickRiffs Před rokem +2

    Old school metalcore has some great bands and some really good riffs.

    • @hereticdeth7986
      @hereticdeth7986 Před rokem +4

      This is melodic metalcore

    • @xangrycatmanx5104
      @xangrycatmanx5104 Před rokem +3

      Old school metalcore is 90s bands like Earth Crisis, Disembodied, Zao and Integrity

  • @disidenciatotal
    @disidenciatotal Před rokem

    Excelente toque, amigo, saludos desde Colombia.

  • @Lotastic_Films
    @Lotastic_Films Před rokem +3

    Is it just me or does Markus kinda look like John Travolta in the thumbnail? 🙃😆
    Anyways, awesome collab. You as well as Markus have played a very good choice of Melodic Death Metal and Metalcore 🎸🔥🤘 greetings from Lotasticland

  • @Blacksoul444
    @Blacksoul444 Před 7 měsíci

    music was cool! Talking at the end was weird, but keep the music coming.

  • @broncoxy
    @broncoxy Před rokem +5

    _that zoolander face in the thumbnail tho_

  • @eugenetkachev
    @eugenetkachev Před rokem

    Misery Signal and Fear My Thoughts is missing

  • @davidemmons899
    @davidemmons899 Před 2 měsíci

    I just saw Omnium Gatherum in Detroit a couple months ago and it was one of the best shows I think I’ve ever been to and being an old sack of $hit like I am I feel like that is saying something.

  • @Salty0
    @Salty0 Před rokem +1

    Vanhala is the lord ethereal ambiance

  • @wanderergrim
    @wanderergrim Před 3 měsíci

    I would say that older metalcore and Melodeath are very similar like depending on the song you can mistake them for each other

  • @user-qf8df9vp3t
    @user-qf8df9vp3t Před rokem +1

    Dark tranquillity?

  • @mattnobrega6621
    @mattnobrega6621 Před 11 měsíci

    Love metalcore😎👍

  • @mattnobrega6621
    @mattnobrega6621 Před 11 měsíci

    Love metalcore🤟😎

  • @hongwalker6457
    @hongwalker6457 Před rokem +1

    finally got a video explain my taste of music to gf 😂🎉

  • @Spawn-wt6ul
    @Spawn-wt6ul Před rokem +3

    No Hypocrisy??

  • @MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs

    What exactly is the difference between melodic death metal and metal core!?
    Most of the time they sound pretty similar to me.

    • @jojoplaysmusic
      @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem +6

      I guess it’s the breakdowns and influence of Hardcore in Metalcore. But yeah, 2000’s Metalcore like these bands sound pretty similar.

    • @MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs
      @MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs Před rokem +2

      @@jojoplaysmusic Oh... True! Breakdowns are a staple of metalcore!

    • @lunarstrain7538
      @lunarstrain7538 Před rokem +1

      one is good the other is crap

    • @Kataxu
      @Kataxu Před rokem +3

      Metalcore from the late 2000's and 2010s all had Melodic Death Metal influence. Previous to that, Metalcore was a lot more ...unga bunga? Look to early ZAO, or Living Sacrifice (albums like Reborn and The Hammering Process). Mostly just metallic hardcore, another would be like Yellow Machinegun.

    • @jojoplaysmusic
      @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem +3

      @@Kataxu Yeah, Converge woud enter in that category too.

  • @jstdust
    @jstdust Před rokem +1

    No Kalmah?

    • @jojoplaysmusic
      @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem

      I would’ve played “Swamphell”

    • @jstdust
      @jstdust Před rokem

      @@jojoplaysmusic
      Share the link bro i can't find it!

  • @IvanDropA0
    @IvanDropA0 Před rokem

    Favorite mdm bands - Inferi, Dead World Reclamation
    Favorite metalcore bands - Bleed From Within, Miss May I

    • @Enkelriktad123
      @Enkelriktad123 Před 7 měsíci

      Era album by Bleed From Within is fucking sick. Scott is a beast!

  • @hereticdeth7986
    @hereticdeth7986 Před rokem +2

    More like Melodic Death Metal vs Melodic Metalcore!

    • @atvena
      @atvena Před rokem +5

      That's exactly it

  • @russellazure9316
    @russellazure9316 Před měsícem

    Understandably ppl here tend to prefer melodeath, but lots of metalcore have killer riffs too. Me myself im more of a core guy

  • @5chultz1984
    @5chultz1984 Před rokem

    Old man's child video would be interesting

    • @jojoplaysmusic
      @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem +2

      I might include them in a video with other similar bands. I do enjoy them quite a bit.

  • @Sticks654
    @Sticks654 Před 6 měsíci

    Little bit unfair in that all the metalcore rifts are black metal inspired - it's like the only thing that can stand up to melodeath

  • @RWalters81
    @RWalters81 Před rokem +3

    I think it's funny that Markus picks really famous songs that everyone knows and you are resorting to picking alot of deep cuts that the bands don't even play live. Like KSE would ever play Reject Yourself live lol.

    • @jojoplaysmusic
      @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem +1

      I just simply chose my favorite songs from those bands :)

    • @KevinTheMetalhead
      @KevinTheMetalhead Před rokem +1

      To be fair, Six is a staple All That Remains song. Though it's not played as much as, say, This Calling, Six is quite known. So is AILD's Confined and August Burns Red's White Washed (White Washed in particular appears to actually be one of their biggest songs).

  • @ilves6664
    @ilves6664 Před rokem +1

    Hello! Melodeath my Opinion is Insomnium Dark Tranquillity and Bel'akor. I dont listen Metalcore bands..

  • @VassagoM
    @VassagoM Před 8 měsíci +1

    All the riffs for both subgenres are basically melodeath until the hardcore style screams and clean vocals kick in. Then its metalcore.

  • @Bentakor
    @Bentakor Před rokem

    I see no difference)

  • @XxITGScooby33xX
    @XxITGScooby33xX Před rokem

    The other guy’s amp sounds better

  • @msk6668
    @msk6668 Před rokem

    Metal core is not melodic death metal that s the point

  • @moviemovie8941
    @moviemovie8941 Před rokem

    Не пойму
    Маркус что играет одновременно в двух коллективах ? Википедия так показала ....

    • @moviemovie8941
      @moviemovie8941 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@counterflare
      Всегда удевлялся таким парням.. Ну направление в музыки чуток разное как бы не повторяться...) Ну ему удаётся делать так чтоб omnium отличался от insomnium.. У меня всё минус плюс повторяется в 2 ух группах)

    • @moviemovie8941
      @moviemovie8941 Před 5 měsíci +1

      А ещё прикольно что чувака из в прошлом Sonata взяли на гитару в somniun... Ну вообщем убойный коллектив и тот и другой.. А Маркус просто монстр!!!!! Голова светлая

  • @MikeLtm32
    @MikeLtm32 Před rokem

    Let us tell the truth: if it was jot for European melodic death metal there would be no sub genre called "metalcore" or "deathcore". It is all METAL, my Dudes and Dudette's. 😂🤘🤘🤘🤘

    • @jojoplaysmusic
      @jojoplaysmusic  Před rokem +3

      Well if it wasn’t for Melodeath, Metalcore would probably just go in the direction of bands like Converge and Deathcore would be only bands that take inspiration from Suffocation, Internal Bleeding, and Devourment.

    • @atvena
      @atvena Před rokem +1

      Google "melodic metalcore"

    • @hereticdeth7986
      @hereticdeth7986 Před 11 měsíci

      @@jojoplaysmusic don't forget metalcore band like:integrity, ringworm, earth crisis, disembodied and hatebreed