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00:55:40 (CW: Domestice Abuse) Matt Rife Controversial Joke
I feel like they missed a lot of relevant context on the Matt Rife controversy. Specifically, his comments on various podcasts about not really liking that his fanbase is so female, saying that he thinks a lot of women don’t like him “for the right reasons” (our tiny lady brains can’t understand comedy; we just like him because he’s hot!) and him explicitly saying that his special is for the guys. The discussion is a lot more gendered than him trying to appeal to the old school comics vs Gen Z. He specifically resents his female audience and wants to be accepted by the boys. He’s biting the hand that launched him to fame because he thinks it’s embarrassing to be a comic for girls.
And his humor has always have a slightly misogynistic tone. He objectifies women A LOT
Agree Agree Agree
Yeah his very first 1hr on CZcams was so good, I had high hopes for his future material. Then he just fizzled out with standard misogyny material. I guess he's insecure about being dismissed as only popular for his looks.
Kinda weird to act like he's not allowed to be uncomfortable with being objectified as part of his profession.
His female fans are aware of his humor. They are hiding behind fake offense at a joke because when he expressed his concerns about his audience, they felt called out and instead of being mature about it, they're lashing out like that guy who gets rejected and tells the girl HE asked out that she's ugly anyway. That's what the female fans are doing, because a SIGNIFICANT number of them DID watch him predominantly because he's attractive.
It's not "different" than when men who are called out lash out just because this time it's women. It's ridiculous when women pretend they DON'T watch things with hot guys when they're called out. Of course they do. There's nothing wrong with it. There's also nothing wrong with Matt wanting a more stable and reliable audience, which is one that will come for his jokes.
you ever notice how domestic violence jokes always have the victim be the punchline? they dont tell that shit for comedy, it's just to uphold status quo
Making fun of an abuser for abuse is really just insulting them. There's no subversion there for abusers in general. The "joke" is the shock of the person you shouldnt be making fun of, being made fun off. But abusers ARE made fun of all the time, like bill cosby for a famous one. You cant get a low bar shock value making fun of an abuser. The only way to quickly subvert is if you support them in the joke. Which does happen
@@greatone6196 that’s stupid lmao, don’t joke about abuse at all if you can’t make the joke against the abuser
Eddie Murphy had an old bit that's sort of like this. The premise was basically how men couldn't beat their wives like in the 20's/30's or whatever because now (I think his joke was from the 80's/90's) women go to the gym and take fitness classes so they'll "fuck you up." Not a perfect bit, but kind of in line with what you're saying - he's basically nodding towards the fact that men only did it cause they thought/knew/know they could, and how women are becoming more and more empowered and capable of standing up for themselves.
Again not a perfect bit, and obviously not accurate when you take a look at what still happens today, but I think it shows its definitely possible to poke fun at the abusers, so if you choose not to do that then its entirely on you.
@@greatone6196 it’s not even that shocking to me at this point. When I was in school kids used to make jokes about Rihanna being beaten or they’d make jokes about r wording people. There’s been multiple mainstream CZcams creators who practically built their careers on joking at the expense of abuse victims. As Jarvis and Jordan point out, the jokes Matt was saying were basically retelling of super old jokes of that same nature. It’s extremely common for people to mock abuse victims, but it’s usually also seen as pretty juvenile.
The only reason it’d have shocked people is if they thought he was better than sinking to that level, which they did. Except that’s not necessarily the subversion of expectations a comedian should be going for..
Is this your first time learning that jokes exist? That's what irreverant jokes are about. You take something that we ALL AGREE is bad and make a joke. You take someone we ALL AGREE is bad/wrong and you make them the "right" one. The ABSURDITY is the joke not "the victim".
Jokes also help people deal with hard things. Domestic violence victims tell AND LAUGH AT domestic violence jokes, because they know it's just a joke, but also they don't necessarily WANT their lives to always be painted as dark and grim or to be reminded of how BAD things were. Being able to laugh helps people get through trauma.
Also, though, you shouldn't think that every joke is an expression of activism. Jokes can be jokes. Your conspiracy theory about jokes being told to "uphold the status quo" like this joke was some big power-play is just sad. The reality is you heard a joke you didn't like. We all have. Move on. It's not that deep.
just so y'all are aware, matt rife is not autistic. i think he's said he has anxiety i think? but as far as i know and could find online, he does not have autism. i pretty much could tell he isn't just by him asking that woman "how far on the spectrum" her son is, because it's pretty common knowledge among autistics that the spectrum isn't a line from 'less autistic' to 'more autistic', it's a spectrum of symptoms and how they may or may not present in each autistic individual. just wanted to provide that info, much love to you boyz
Yeah, from what I've observed, when non-autistic people say 'how far on the spectrum', they mean "how well do you fit into my expectations of an 'average' person"
The further on the spectrum, the further away you are from fitting into the narrow box that person has decided encompasses acceptable behavior.
fairly sure he was just trying to be funny. even if you didnt find it funny it really isn't evidence enough to make a claim on weather or not he is autistic. l mean i do doubt he is however i think what he said is a funnier way of askin what symptoms they might display.
@@kianmeijnen4272it’s not about how funny he is. It’s that he clearly isn’t aware of some fairly basic knowledge about autism, which is super unlikely for someone who is diagnosed.
@@kianmeijnen4272 i get that he’s trying to be funny, he’s a comedian. personally i don’t even find his phrasing to be all that offensive. i’m just saying that when jordan said he was autistic, and then they played the clip, hearing him say that made me google if he actually was autistic and then i couldn’t find anything other that clip and another joke he told about his nephew being “autistic as fuck”. so to me as an autistic person it seemed sort of obvious, based on these jokes and no other evidence of him talking about being on the spectrum, that he’s not autistic. so i just wanted to correct the mistake of them saying he’s autistic and that his jokes about autism are “punching up”. they’re not really offensive but they’re definitely not punching up yknow
Oh I’m 100% sure he isn’t lol. Considering all the ableist jokes he’s made
The thing I hate about modern comedy is you can't call something unfunny without being called "soft" or people claiming you want to cancel them. I'm not offended, it's just not funny
The outrage about cancel culture has really watered down any intelligent dialogue about comedy. Someone can build an entire fan base by going on Jordan Peterson to complain about cancel culture. It seems so hack at this point.
True
@@deadams8905fr. They complain so much about “cancel culture” but base their entire personality and career around it. So tiring
Literally. I want someone to explain the joke to me because I must be missing something
matt rife always went for the lazy jokes, his comedy is very "girls do this - guys do that" and it's nice to see people finally catching on to the fact that he's basically just a mid frat boy outside of a few good instances of well executed crowd work imo
Jessica Kirson should have his popularity. His crowd work is nothing compared to her.
...how did anyone see anything otherwise.
Agreed- and even then the crowd work he posts only goes so far
@@kul2130hell yeah, i love her comedy too. amazing crowd work
And yet they think commentary youtube is entertainment.
As someone who has been through DV it isn't the joke, it's the blatant trade off of his female audience that he deems as inferior because he is insecure about being unfunny.
This is exactly it. The joke was unfunny and played out but not the most offensive thing anyone’s heard by a long shot. It’s the intention behind the joke. It’s the fact that this special was “for the boys” and his opener is a DV joke. Not only does it speak to his, and societies, general disdain for female-audiences (due to a general disdain for females), but it also goes to show what he believes men find funny. At best it comes off as Matt being desperate and making low blows at women to disconnect himself from association with him, and at worst it speaks to a larger pattern of “male humor” being at the expense of women.
Overall, dark humor can be funny, that’s not people’s concern for the most part. They care that it a. Wasn’t funny and b. Was a very intentional move to degrade his mainly female audience in an attempt to appeal to men
@bitchlasagna1 Because his female audience doesn't come for comedy but to either gawk at him or hope to see his crowd work material from tiktok. He's not necessarily trading women out but filtering the women in order to get the one's who can take some dark humor to stay around. I think yall are looking WAY too deep into this.
@@AqualLine92 lmao yea bc the female gender is always soooo focused on looks? It’s not like that’s a man’s way of thinking or anything 😂
@Tinacius I'm not bullshitting here. Matt said himself that women would come up after the show and ask to grab his butt and whatnot. This was a very real issue he had. His fan base was a TikTok fanbase, and they do not care about the whole show, just the parts from TikTok. It's the same thing that musical artists had to go through when they had a song or chorus blow up from social media. Attendees would essentially only care about that one song or chorus and would remain silent during every other song because they don't know them because they aren't really fans.
I'm so glad you said it, he can make offensive jokes about anyone else, but women. No, if he can make offensive jokes about other groups he can make offensive jokes about you to.
The Matt Rife situation is mirroring the “female gaze guy” situation a bit imo. A bunch of people on TikTok find him hot, overlook his lack of any significant skill or talent, find out he’s the kind of guy who thinks violence against women is funny, and lose interest in him when he doubles down on being an unpleasant creep.
I said the exact same thing lol. Also he’s basically Dusty Dinkleman…he used to be horribly unattractive and had what most people consider a glow up (I still don’t think he’s hot) and now thinks himself a ladies man.
My thoughts exactly
Or it’s just a joke
@hollydawn07 His body had a "glow up," but his incel mind stayed stayed the same.
I’m a woman who thinks MR is talented, and I’m not on Instagram or TikTok.
You said many people think he’s hot and overlook that he has no significant talent. That’s your opinion and nothing wrong with it. But my opinion is I’ve watched a lot of comedy and actually think he can be quite funny. I’m not attracted to him, but can see he’s objectively good looking. That isn’t why I like him, though I understand how it contributed to his social media success. I just got a laugh out of a lot of his material.
I doubt he actually thinks violence against women is funny. He’s doing what many comedians do. Being edgy, tackling tough subjects through a comedic lens (even if this joke was a bit basic and lazy). And perhaps trying to weed out certain types of fans who mostly just think he’s hot.
He gets sexually harassed at his shows. I see where some of his frustration comes from.
I’m like 99.9% sure Matt Rife doesn’t have autism, his autism bit wasn’t awful but it definitely wasn’t coming from a comedian with autism lmao
yes it looks like he has an autistic nephew. makes sense considering that he asks if there's any PARENTS of autistic kids in the crowd rather than autistic people... classic family member of an autistic person behavior
@@elle.9839 yeah because why would he care about an adults feeling that's for them to do not him
@@elle.9839now that you mention it this is such a good point wow. I’ve seen those clips and somehow as an autistic adult I didn’t think of what it would feel like to be in that situation? I feel like that’s so infantilizing to just ask about parents of children with autism.
@@kookykiddo a lot of non autistic people but particularly parents / family members kind of think of autistic people like entities rather than people. i think they get so caught up in the "autistic" part that they forget the people. like they dont see them as people the same way they are
@@user-fb2yd9bz8b this bias also extends into medical studies and research, unfortunately. Like, it's insane how much of our formal medical/biological/psychological understanding of autism and adhd are directly informed by the observations/experiences of parents and teachers rather than, you know, the children they're observing -- and I mean SPECIFICALLY children they observe. Because for a long time the typical researcher didn't think of looking at adults with autism and adhd because they're much easier to ignore than children at home or in educational settings -- and there's still SO MANY practicing doctors who don't believe those adults actually exist at all for that reason. /rant
Jarvis saying he's a bit of a rules follower after having a tangent about him being in the safety patrol is just straight up funny
as somehow who is also a rule follower and was in the safety patrol, i feel it
Looks like I'm putting off my 10 page essay another 1 hour, 15 minutes, and 52 seconds
Boss you've gotta do your essay
what they said: boss you've gotta do your essay
Always a nice reward to sit and relax to once you’ve finished too
tehe i'm also putting off studying for my finals + writing 3 essays to watch this ep :))
I just turned in a 2000 word outline while listening. You can do it!! (Or you did it yay!!)
yay perfect to watch while i crochet
lol, I just clicked this video with this exact reason
(good luck with your project! 😊)
Literally me too 😭😭😭
Samee
I'm making dinner - burgers and jalapeno poppers. Absolute perfection for focus sound 😍🥰❤️💕
I love the running tradition of always having a conversation about what cowboys do at the beginning of every podcast. Genuinely very entertaining.
the hard cut after jarvis says he’s going on a first date had me cracking up, you can tell he got too excited and said too much or something 😂 this was a great episode
I caught that too 😅 I hope the date went well!!
Like this to give Jarvis good date karma 🤍
"What is your goal here?" is the most politely savage callout. I'd just have to move out of the country 😅
Hello! I know a decent amount about cowboys/vaqueros!
-They moved cattle over vast distances for ranch owners/haciendas so the cattle would always have access to fresh food
-They would have to ride horseback to better keep up with and control the cattle
-contained primarily (I think but I'm like, stoned so don't consider me an expert) black and Mexican men
-are/were heavily romanticized and its kinda hard to fully know how they actually lived their lives
-they typically moved from ranch to ranch to work
kaze rowe made a video about cowboys! i highly recommend it
As someone who is on the asexual spectrum, the early relationships discussion is a fascinating insight to me
Asexual pal! Hi!
@@feliciascorner9795 hi!
I felt the same way about the not wanting/not knowing if you want to date part as someone who identifies as aromantic because relationships aren't something I'm interested in and never have been and struggles because of it because the feelings are there and I get too invested despite it, it felt very validating to hear (I am also very much asexual but that doesn't cause me any troubles)
Totaly, if someone had said what they said here to me when I was younger, I would have more confidence to say no to things I was feeling unsure and uncomfortable about. I don't like labels that much but I love being a confident Ace
Yeah I honestly hope if Salem sees this she explores the Ace spectrum online and sees if anything connects to her.
I had seen Matt in a few clips, not doing crowd work, but telling some jokes. I thought they were fine, but I felt weird about the way he talked about his looks. Then, I saw a clip of him on a podcast just being absolutely disgusting about women, so he’s been a strong no thank you for a while.
what did he say on the podcast?? i knew hes been saying he wanted more male fans and made some eh jokes but i didnthear anything about that
@@user-fb2yd9bz8b it would've been on the stiff socks podcast, but it seems to be scrubbed. i'm sure you could find clips of it if you wanted, but i don't recommend listening to "comedians" who think that misogyny is a punchline. they asked him about his preferences in women, and he essentially described them as just body parts, i.e. fake tits, but with no burn victim scarring.
Agree. It's not the outrageously offensive joke or cancel culture. He's just got a gross insecure frat boy personality. It ticks me off that Matt himself isn't self aware enough to see its his personality flaws, not cancel culture that are turning people off
@@user-fb2yd9bz8b he talked about women's vaginas looking like chewed gum. Like what he finds gross about women(anything less than perfection I guess) He just sounds like he's never grown up. He's that asshole in highschool you want to avoid
I only saw his crowd work stuff before this and thought "Oh he's pretty decent." It was just a few bits of crowd work though, so I can't say overall if he was good at it.
He just doesn't sound like a very funny person now though. Or a good one. He doesn't sound like that either
It’s very important for Matt Rife that we know that he’s too cool to hang out with people his own age or race because he’s just above that stuff. He could NEVER take a 30yo woman seriously either because they need to be his momma’s age for him to care. Also he’s the coolest white guy that’s ever lived and as an American he explains this by constantly reminding us of how many black friends he has. He is cute but he’s trying so hard to not look like he’s trying so hard. lol
this is so funny for no reason 😭😭 perfectly explained
The part that I find funny is that outside of Wild'n Out I've never seen him with anyone black. All the clips of him on the internet and all the youtube videos he's done with "friends" have always been fuck boy white guys.
Who hurt you? lmfao
Matt actually mentions in the special that he loves old people and hates people his own age, which is pretty telling
so is your name /j
eh, I don't get the whole bit of people going "PEOPLE MY AGE ARE TERRIBLE, BUT IM DIFFERENT", just sounds corny and desperate for validation. You don't know all the people your age, just like you don't know old people.
@@arsena5209 exactly lmao
so either a pick me comedian or a milf lover (which i respect)
@@vaishnavisingh9244I think he just meant that’s his preference if I remember correctly, he wasn’t insulting people his age and more saying he’d rather date older women (from what I remember)
i got blocked by matt rife for responding to a comment on his insta agreeing that his special was boring haha i didn’t even mention that i think it wasn’t right to make the dv joke i just said it was boring
also there’s more to the backlash matt is getting than just that joke. he’s said very demeaning things about women on different podcasts and talks about how his comedy is “for the boys”. he talks about how he’s “too attractive to be funny” and talks about how much he hates his female audience without acknowledging the fact that without them, he wouldn’t be nearly as popular as he ended up getting. i think he’s just very immature and trying to cater to a very specific audience that’s imo outdated
May I ask what has he told about women on podcasts? I can't find any on google😅
@@scarletMOM from what I remember from a clip I saw, he was asked his type and went on to describe physical attributes they must have if they are long term (big tits, ass, blonde, etc). The usual objectifying stuff that personally rubbed me the wrong way. From what I read in another comment he may have also joked about (insulted) women with physiques he isn’t attracted to. Frat bro stuff.
he never used to be hot he got a TON of work
done on his face .. clearly has spent thousands on his looks
@@stayroxy oh yea fs LOL he talks about his veneers but it’s very obvious he’s had other work done
@@stuffystuffsityas6302 So he just said what he's attracted to and what he's not attracted to? Thats not bad
“Maybe you aren’t transcendent” is one of the wisest takes I’ve heard on this whole situation. Fully agree
I really hope that younger males are listening to you guys. Because y'all are great examples of people who have a great sense of humor but also a good example of what it means to be respectful to women.
A few months ago I somehow ended up watching Matt's first special and I didn’t think it was terrible, but I got the vibe that he was going to go downhill pretty fast because he set up most of his jokes with this "I'm gonna make jokes about everyone because that’s true equality" caveat and it was very much a yellow flag
Matt Rife's TikTok presence is mostly fine, but his full sets have kind of always been like this.
You have encountered a Wild Razbuten.
Yeah it honestly feels like a bunch of people who weren’t fans of him anyway seeing this at the beginning of his special and using it to rile up a crowd who also never liked him or really knew much about him. Feels like the same crowd of people who just want to get off their “he’s never been funny just handsome” and “he just does crowd work” comments without actually looking at his work lol idk.
Yeah, I usually encounter the stray standup tiktok and his used to be pretty common on my feed, but he's always given off that vibe. I don't watch him because of the fact he always had that stray "edgy" joke that simply makes him unappealing to me.
I watched his only fans special to begin with. I was immediately bored because he just spent the whole time talking about how hot he was. Nothx
yeah the problem is that he actually *is* pretty funny and likeable, so the shitty joke and especially his response to people's opinion of it, feels like a kick in the teeth :/
47:53 THAT HARD CUT WAS THE MOST HILARIOUS THING IVE EVER SEEN 💀
Jarvis being giddy about going on a first date is the cutest thing 😂
FR HAHAAH
you guys are so conscious with your trigger warnings and it's really heart warming to see. it doesn't interrupt your flow at all and feels really natural and I think it's really great you do it
as a sad boyz listener with both adhd and ehlers danlos syndrome, it's cool to hear you guys talk so openly about your experiences with both :)
Whenever some comic makes a joke at the expense of women's suffering i think of the time in highschool when i watched the fantasia autobiography movie.
It was right after she was assaulted and we were all making sympathy noises. One guy just says "why y'all sad? She was made to be r---ed" with a chuckle and it was dead silent after. Even his friends that usually liked to make those kind of jokes with him just looked away from him.
Reminds me of that one 'American Psycho ' scene . Matt Rife is giving the same vibe to me. Very charismatic and put together from afar , but just messy and gross once you know him .
Holy shit 😬 i cant believe that guy said that outloud
Jordan I am SO GLAD you talked about your EDS diagnosis & experience! I have been a long term fan and I started tearing up because I have Classical Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, COL1A1 variant and I am so fucking grateful to see representation🥹 I’m also autistic & I have 14 other co-morbid chronic illnesses on top of the genetic one, thank you for talking about your experience as a fellow Zebra! I’m 21 and I was diagnosed with cEDS at 18 and it was LIFE CHANGING to know that my “random” symptoms from all the chronic illness and other diseases are all connected to the genetic one! Thank you from the bottom of my heart for being vocal about your rare disease diagnosis! Love you guys
this might be too much for YT comments, but i’m being treated for audhd, but i also have some EDS symptoms, and im hypermobile- do you have any tips/recs on identifying it, or getting diagnosed with it?? if not, no sweat ✨
@@randomrose6398 it depends on what country you live in, I am from Canada (our healthcare blows especially for rare diseases and wait times are insanely long) but here are my biggest generalized recommendations are 1.) if you haven’t done it yet self assess via the Beighton test and bring up the results with your family doctor, every GP/family doctor should be able to assess it and if they don’t know much about hypermobility you can show them where you rank on the scale of 1-9. From there I’d recommend advocating for yourself to get a rheumatologist referral because they will be able to diagnose HSD & hEDS as well as send you for genetic testing OR refer you to an EDS clinic + geneticist if genetic testing isn’t readily available in your area. Keep in mind that the average diagnosis timeline for EDS is 10-15 YEARS from first symptom since most of the types of eds are considered super rare diseases so if you have more questions or need help I have a rare disease education account on Instagram (@ mendingwitch) and you can always feel free to send me a DM for links & educational resources💜 either way I wish you the best of luck on your health journey!
As an avid makeup lover their makeup segment was very wholesome and accurate. A small wipe is absolutely not the way to go lmao
Do you know about the sweat spray? What is it? Where can I find it?
I'm searching for it everywhere
@@thedoormouse3371seriously I’ve been searching the comments
Honestly shocked the “apology” link isn’t a link to his own merch
That "apology" was hilarious tho😅
@@avi3020my guy the joke of the apology was basically equivalent of calling people the r slur it’s not remotely new
@rabbit6546 it's not new but who doesn't like a classic throwback. It always hits home. It also refers to the saying (Life is tough,wear a helmet) it's a good response to over sensitive people. It don't matter how someone feels about the joke. The only thing that matters is the intention of the joke. And in my opinion his intentions was to make people laugh.
@@avi3020 in my opinion he was trying to piss people off because he wanted to get rid of his majority women audience which he has stated he doesn’t like having, also it’s not really a ‘throwback’ when people are still making r slur and ‘you’re mentally handicapped’ jokes still very frequently it’s just following a very tired trend of generic edgy comedian
@rabbit6546 what were people expecting from him?A real apology from a comedian for his jokes?when has that happened 🤭 he did the right thing. Too many sensitive people whining about a Joke,they need to get themselves a helmet 🪖
fellow eds haver but just now getting diagnosed at 24 and in a state where there’s few doctors who even know what it is, major props to jordan’s mom for getting you looked at so early on, it’s cool to know one of my favorite youtubers is a fellow zebra! :] good luck with the sleep apnea treatment u end up choosing!!
i was diagnosed at 19 i think, you’re right it’s so hard to find a doctor who knows what it is or cares😭 stay strong fellow zebra
Yes. Love seeing fellow Zebra representation
EDS is something I never heard about growing up and then all of a sudden maybe a few years ago I just happened to meet about 5 people who'd all recently gotten diagnosed, it really seems like there's a big catch up period occurring now for folks who've been dismissed by doctors or left undiagnosed for many years just recently getting the support they need. Hope we continue moving in the right direction with this, I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to go for so long without any concrete answers.
Dark humor is fine. But thats the key, HUMOR. The joke has to actually be a joke.
Well the crowd was laughing, many people enjoyed his jokes or just his DV joke. I personally thought his "apology" was funnier than the dv joke😅.
or how about this: dark humour is FINE just as long as you aren't making fun of abuse victims 😐
if you think jokes like that are funny, you have a problem
It was a joke. Do you think Matt is for domestic abuse if the wife doesn’t know how to cook? No, any reasonable person can see that. I think it had humor in it and was a joke.
Idk DV jokes aren't for me, and it was a pretty stale joke. People in real life laugh at anything if one person laughs, we are social creatures and we don't dissect everything in real world in real time. Didn't watched him before this, probably wouldn't start now since he doesn't seem anything like my cup of humor.
Like you can even tell he wasn't even wanting to say the joke. He knows it's not funny. Like workshop the joke. Make it funny. No one is saying you can't make dark jokes ... But that fell flat as hell.
I’m pretty sure Matt isn’t autistic, but it’s possible I missed something. He did some crowd work if I remember correctly where he talked to a mom with an autistic child. Glad you guys are covering him because I’m not a huge fan of him lol
As someone with EDS and ADHD (and autism I pulled every disorder card) y’all’s input is literally incredible my EDS has been deteriorating and I’m literally only 18 to a debilitating point (mobility aid gang rise up 😅) and to hear another person talk about it is really incredible like just knowing your whole life something’s wrong and everyone goes “nothings wrong” only to find out infact EVERYTHING is wrong is so frustrating Thanks y’all for everything you do and sharing all this info!
Me when I found out I had the perfect storm (AUDIDHD) no in fact everything was wrong 😂
That was always the worst part is being like please everything hurts help and they’re like I dunno man all these tests came back clear. You’re just sitting there like well I’m not magically better soooo.
@@Lucifersfursonaomg! Fellow AUDHDER!!!! Hello
ok this is gonna be so super mushy gushy snowflake but i really appreciate how you guys are sensitive as to when things should have a trigger warning and that you give a timestamp where we can resume if we need to skip a certain part. as a viewer with a few phobias and general unresolved trauma, it makes the pod and the community you guys have built feel like such a safe and comfortable place where my wellbeing is actually considered and valued and it means a lot❤ sad boyz supremacy
Cringe
I was coming down here to say something shockingly similar, thank you for saying it so wonderfully. Sad boyz supremacy indeed!
@@y0u_bugg1ni know you are but what are they?
@@iamjustkiwi cringe also
@@y0u_bugg1nshut up
I relate so much to the not realizing that you have symptoms that you definitely are experiencing every day. I think that having ADHD makes me an unreliable narrator to my own body.
Before I stopped eating gluten I was horribly fatigued and depressed and feeling awful and was asked if I had any gastrointestinal symptoms and I confidently said “Nope!” And then the doctor asked if I ever got nauseous and I was like “oh…yeah…I violently dry heave in the parking lot every morning when I get to school.” Totally did not register to me that doing that was abnormal 😂
This may be completely different but I had a similar thing of horrendous issues with throwing up stomach acid alot of mornings with something as small as brushing my teeth setting it off and though i think that was highly influenced by my gerd I developed from how extreme my anxiety had gotten at the beginning of highschool, since I have ADHD too I'm realizing maybe that was related as well. But the point of my message is that taking pepcid daily has helped SO MUCH. Not sure if this would be of any use to you but I thought it'd be worth it to mention
@@morganlong39 YUP! Agree a million. There are sooo many mental and physical symptoms and they can pile on top of each other. But dry heaving before arriving somewhere? That screams anxiety issues. Too much anxiety will make you feel sick to your stomach naturally. After a few years, it will progress to purely physical and GERD comes in. I eventually had some other complications which lead to a 2 year long progressive dry heaving, unable to eat food, massive unhealthy weight loss. Eventually the no eating lead to vitamin deficiencies and imbalances which just made it worse to eat until was hospitalized from severely low potassium and magnesium.
So there are amazing drugs out there and take them as you need. There are prescription drugs that can be WAY more effective than Pepcid and activeltyheal the esophagus as sometimes too much acid causes damage and ulcers. And for anyone scared of all the tests and etc that happen with any of these conditions, I swear, after so many endoscopies, there is no need to fear them at all! They are the easiest. There's practically no prep. They put you to sleep. You wake up and literally, the worst thing will maybe be a slight sore throat for an hour or so. The whole thing sounds icky but if you don't know it happened and get the rest of the day off to "recover from anesthesia" , its one of the least stressful medical things out there.
I relate to this too! I probably have adhd as well...but I was apparently experiencing pretty bad low blood pressure symptoms daily which I didn't realize until I took medication for it and then I was like oh shit, I can actually think and don't want to lay in bed 24/7. I have orthostatic hypotension and every test they did came back normal, I only got it checked out because I didn't wanna faint randomly anymore🥴
i wrote a whole comment about the autism joke clip but then I did some googling and I can't find anything saying Matt Rife is autistic. He has an autistic nephew, though, and talks about him, so maybe Jordan is mixing those two things up?
Watching the clip thinking that he was autistic was a very different experience from watching it knowing he's a family member of an autistic person. I have a joking grudge against allistic family members of autists-I think quite a few autistic people do, because of the way that a majority of family members talk about their autistic relatives. At this point I just get annoyed at people bringing up the fact that they have an autistic son/brother/cousin even if what they say isn't offensive because I'm so tired of the way that (not all) allistics speak about the autistics in their lives. It's hard for me to explain but I know that there are a lot of articles/blogs about this topic from other autistic people.
The biggest problem I have with the clip (under the impression that he is not autistic) is his question of how "far" he is on the spectrum. If he's autistic, I can write it away as a joke that I don't find funny and don't think he should have said to an allistic person. If he's not autistic, then he's making a joke based on a black-and-white misconception of what the "autism spectrum" means and spreading that misinformation to an audience of mostly allistics.
I had more to say about the mother's response and the treatment of nonverbal autistic people but I felt like I was lecturing an imaginary person. Anyway I don't think he's autistic and I don't think allistic people should be making comedy about autism. Leave it to us please! Please. Please. (Not @ you guys)
i dont know very much about this guy but i tried watching his special bc my mom had shown me a couple tiktoks of his, i had to turn it off after about 10 minutes when he made the joke about "first to lunch" kids, how special ed classes went to lunch early and the kids would naruto run down the hall. that in combination with the special needs helmets link on his instagram story tells me that he very clearly sees people with intellectual/learning disabilities or neurodivergencies as either a vessel for his shitty jokes or as a direct target. and no matter his intention, it seems like he thinks he gets a pass on this stuff because he has an autistic nephew. classic "i'm not racist i have black friends" behavior
thank you! me and my brother both have autism and you wouldn’t believe how many times i’ve heard family members complain about or make fun of him because of his autism, him more than me because he needs more support than i do.
we’re both treated as inconveniences because we need accommodations, or rude and asocial because neither of us are particularly interested in engaging in typical allistic behavior like small talk, nor do we mask all that often. i especially get told i’m weird and obsessive when i talk about my special interest.
it’s gotten to the point where anyone, especially a comedian, who talks about an autistic family member just feels like a train wreck waiting to happen.
i just feel like allistics need to understand that it’s not black-and-white, we’re not all super geniuses or fully nonverbal, most of us just simply exist in our own way. and even the ones who are nonverbal, it doesn’t mean they’re worse or “further on the spectrum”, they just don’t function like an allistic.
@@MintyBlueNobody the helmet link also just baffled me for how juvenile it is, like calling someone "special needs" as a comeback is something I associate with very early teen boy humour. Idk how someone can want to be taken seriously as a talented new voice in comedy (taken seriously as in seen as worthy of sharing stages with big comics etc) when their knee jerk comeback is to use disabilities as a punchline. It reminds me of when kids would think the R word was funny to call each other in middle school. I know comedy isn't a one size fits all so we all find different things funny etc., but we've all heard that kind of joke a million times before... from 12 year olds. I figured we'd mostly all be on the same page with that one. But then again there are grown men who still think calling each other gay is funny, so I guess maybe that's the target audience for a special needs punchline. There's also a difference between a joke involving a disability and a joke simply being disabled = funny. I can't remember her name but there's a girl with cerebral palsy who had a bit about using tinder as a disabled person that went along the lines of "people who say they're up for anything don't tend to have cerebral palsy in mind when they're writing their dating profile," and she goes on to talk about her own experiences in an actually funny way.
@@RealElongatedMuskrat exactly! no matter what excuse someone might come up with for the material, at the VERY least it’s low hanging fruit. i’ve taken several comedy/improv classes, and the very first thing we’re taught in those classes is to play to the top of your intelligence, so whenever i see professional “comedians” pull something like this, offense taken aside, i’m always in awe of the fact that they couldn’t think of anything better. i’m someone who views comedy as an art form, any accomplished standup comic can attest to how difficult it is to make it because of how hard it is to make people laugh in that medium; it takes a lot of dedicated craft and fine tuning to find jokes that get a reaction, so you can either take time to do that… or say something offensive, drive a hard line within the audience from the get-go, and act like the people who don’t respect it “just don’t get it”. it’s the easy route. they touched on this in the video, people make jokes like that as kids because they don’t fully get what a “joke” is and just want a reaction and attention. if you’re still making jokes like that both as an adult AND as someone who wants a legit career in comedy… concerning.
It tells you how fast things move nowadays when your first exposure to a comedian is all the videos saying he doesn’t deserve the praise he just started getting. Man blew up and fell off in one fell swoop!
Nah he's just getting cancelled by your side of the internet. He literally has a Netflix special people been knowing him
@@y0u_bugg1n I really miss the days where basic human decency wasn't divided into 'sides'. And you don't even know what side of the internet that person is on. Not to mention plenty of problematic people have had a Netflix special. Amy Schumer had one and no one likes her either lmfao.
And cancelled is such a lame word. If someone makes a disrespectful joke that also just isn't funny people have every right to call them out for it. Like other comedians have made jokes about domestic violence, but they aren't so blatantly bad and 'edgy for the sake of being edgy'. The jokes that are actually thought out are the ones you can argue are just dark humour. People still disagree with them, and they have every right to. But at least it's clear the joke has been actually constructed well and the purpose is the construction, not the superficial shock value which plays on a very disturbing topic. That's why people have an issue with this particular joke. So again, not really cancelling. He really just said 'haha women get hit by husband, women bad to look at, women go back in kitchen'.
@@y0u_bugg1nbrother there’s literally a well known joke of hack comics making hack Netflix specials bc Netflix doesn’t actually care about comedy they care about engagement and ragebait ‘culture war’ shit is very profitable for them short term
@@y0u_bugg1n "Your side" why are you watching this video bro? Sad Boyz' audience is all on this "your side" you seem to have a problem with.
@@y0u_bugg1n Wtf is "your side" of the internet?
Thanks for the EDS representation Jordan! I’m glad to hear people talk about it
just started the vid looking forward to see if this is abt erectile dysfunctional, eds the bone thing or eating disorder
@@gabbyrisleythe collagen disorder:)
@@gabbyrisleythe bone thing
@@gabbyrisleyall of the above
Not usually someone who leaves comments, I also have EDS and straight up started crying my eyes out when Jordan started talking about his own experience with it. With a chronic disability, feeling less like you’re alone means everything, especially when you’re nearing 30 and can feel your body crumbling from underneath you.
When Jordan first started this “Howdy” bit i wasn’t a fan but his dedication to it has won me over
People got upset with him last year because of some other pretty terrible sexist/racist jokes- I feel like the DV joke was just retaliatory at this point.
Every time he goes viral for his crowd work, there’s also the “FYI this dude sucks and here’s why”- so he opens the show with a blatant dig against his critics to “make sure the crowd is cool.”
Just very boring, petty dude imo.
bro seeing matt rife getting shit on is so funny, because I first saw him on wildn' out. and he first started to get a lot of hate after trying to kiss zendaya during a part of the show. that dude is so weird and not that funny.
I genuinely enjoy Jordan’s howdy every episode
Me too it’s my favorite howdy
with each howdy I get more invested in anticipating the next one
only a few minutes in but i 100% agree with you jarvis on the dog breed thing. every dog has a unique personality but its breed is SUCH a determining factor for its behavior, y'know?
like my dogs are boxers, which is a breed orignally bred for bullbaiting. so while both my dogs are genuinely the sweetest and silliest pups ive ever known, they're VERY high energy. when they play they tend to rough house, or chase each other around (i s2g if we had a smaller yard our furniture would've been destroyed by them stress chewing 😭). plus they're prone to boredom, but they love spending time with their humans, so they enjoy training a lot. but they also hate repetition so we can only train them for short bursts
olay mostly i wanted an excuse to talk about my dogs, BUT you're absolutely right. even if most families don't use a dog for labor anymore, dogs still have job instincts bred into them (collies herd, retrievers swim, terriers dig, etc). those urges and instincts need to be taken into account during training
my dog is mixed with chesapeake bay retriever and although he isn’t very fond of water he could play fetch for an entire day. he plays 2-3 times a day outside and when he comes back inside he brings me another toy lmao
100%. Because behavioural traits and stuff are literally passed down from yeaaaaaars of breeding and training, but also individual dogs can have very different temperaments and personalities to other dogs of the same breed. If you want your pups to be happy and well adjusted you should for sure know a decent bit about their respective breed!
My golden retriever was afraid of water and hated the game fetch. It’s good to research dog breeds because they give a strong indication of what your dog will be like. But once you get the dog you’ll learn it’s an individual too and may not be very much like you expected it to be.
I love boxers 🥺 I've got a wee supermutt lol so he's a colourful mix of many, but the most prominent are pug, Shiba inu, and boxer (I swear lmao). He's a real Scooby Doo lookin ass that's just a bit shorter than a shiba with fawn pug markings, shiba tail, boxer chest, ears and coat, with a mix of all in the face that ends up a bit like a perpetually puppy pitbull? We call him the lost Doo, Scrungly Doo to complement Scooby and Scrappy.
also on the note of breed behaviour traits, my last pup was a West Highland terrier x Yorkshire terrier mix and true to his fine heritage, he was a right grumpy bastard 😂 I had the privilege of being one of the few humans he tolerated for 12 years, and I loved him tremendously. RIP Whiskey, you were a terror.
Thank you for posting so I don’t have to watch Matt rife content out of morbid curiosity
Doesn’t have to be morbid. Once you watch, you’ll enjoy! 🎉
@@darudewottI watched him a while back when he first popped up on my recommended and it was boring was just the type of jokes a weired 14 year old who sells knock off vapes and watches way too much joe Rogan would make while not realising people are laughing at them and not their jokes
the reason comics post crowd work clips is bc it doesn't burn their material, no body is buying tickets to a show they have already sean in 2 minuet clips online.
hes so ableist too. im autistic im not a hero. its not a super power. im not special. im just autistic and thats ok
Right like my autism is a disability that impacts me every single day. I can’t turn it off. It doesn’t give me cool abilities unless you count crying at noises lmao.
@@tedddybear crying at textures too 🥲
A lot of people talk the same weird way about adhd and I really don’t feel like my adhd is a superpower when I am late to work everyday even though I’m in tears trying to make it in time or when I have a huge panic attack because I’m so overwhelmed by entering a grocery store. When I can’t read a damn book because I simply can’t concentrate. I can imagine it’s equally (or more) frustrating for autistic people to hear that their disabilities are superpowers and basically you should be thankful or something. The ‘normies’ are a weird bunch 😅 the huge need to explain stuff that already has an explanation or answer because they’re not comfortable with that answer or something
I think autism and adhd, as someone with adhd, is like having a superpower in the sense that you are Elsa from frozen. There is nothing ‘wrong’ with you, yet you’re encouraged to hide it at all costs, if you reveal you have it there’s a very ‘hit or miss’ atmosphere where you COULD be accepted or relentlessly ridiculed and alienated, and you kind of lowkey (not lowkey) wish you didn’t have it even though sometimes it’s kind of helpful and cool, just not cool enough to ignore the fact it’s debilitating
@@BunnyGxre woah exactly
It's crazy how different every dog is. My family just adopted a rescue from the pound and he has really bad anxiety. He can't be left alone because he'll cry and literally hyperventilate. We weren't aware of this when we got him-but he might have just developed that from being abandoned he worries we will leave and not come back. Luckily there is always someone home for him I work online and my sister is disabled, so they both keep each other company. We joke my dog is a baby because we carry him around like one and he acts like a baby. He's brought so much joy to our lives. He looks exactly like our old dog but our old dog couldn't have given a f if we lived or died he was a lone wolf. Dogs are so fascinating to me they're always either idgaf I'm basically a cat or I'm literally a baby plz.
As a female comedian, it's so easy to fall into only talking about sex and I'm happy my group of up and coming folks just talk about like astrology and anime and shit 😊
Schumerized into tokenship
It gives “take my wife. Please!” Energy. Its a joke from another time
yes exactly, it's in the same realm as calling a wife "the old ball and chain" and every joke ending with "am I right, fellas?"
@@RealElongatedMuskrat its so corny
so glad someone finally made a video about this dude
Rife?
Hey Jordan and Jarvis, I found yall a few months ago to have something to watch while "studying", but honestly listening to you guys speak makes me feel like you'd both make amazing youth workers. You guys are great and are both very wise, well-spoken, and empathetic people. Thank you for all the work you put into being open, honest, and kind. Much Love, from Canada's smallest province, PEI
Hi Jarvis!!! I recommend looking up "engagement games for dogs" or the "look at that" game! You can use Dipper's prey drive to make him more attentive. He can learn that when he minds you, the reward is getting to look at the squirrel! That way he still gets to fulfill his drives, but in a controlled and cooperative way :)
Matt Rife’s specials have always been middle of the road. Makes statements that are socially acceptable that ppl applaud to, while also sprinkling in riské jokes to potentially spark controversy.
Feels like he’s checking off boxes in a very artificial and formulaic balancing act. Kind of funny, but nothing that actually makes me laugh out loud like his snappy improv crowd work responses.
hey Jordan! my grandma has sleep apnea and according to her, getting diagnosed and getting a CPAP is one of the greatest things she's ever done in her whole life. I'm excited for you, and I know that getting treatment is going to be a game changer :)
No. He’s never been funny. Crazy thing is too, I was JUST talking to my husband on the phone about something like this/nonblack guys like this, RIGHT before this video pops up. Lol I was talking to him about how white & other nonblack men, but ESPECIALLY white men, who I’ve seen talking to my boyfriends/husband now, LOVE to talk down on their wives/girlfriends to try to impress them!! My husband agrees too. You can 10000% tell that they’re calling their women a btch & just talking about how much they use her & don’t really care for her, all in an effort to impress black men! & I’m just sitting there thinking “have you EVER heard this man I’m with EVER call me the b word or talk down on me at all, or calling any woman the b word at all”.... smh my men have never been that type & never would be because I’d never ever be with a man like that & so I know for a fact they never called me the b word or talk down on me to other people at all, not in front of me or behind my back, ESPECIALLY my husband, he doesn’t call any women the b word nor has that been a tendency of ANY of the men I’ve ever been with, yet they STILL think that’s going to impress these black men when they do it... it’s so strange to us. It’s crazy how they think that’s going to impress black men who specifically do NOT talk to or about women that way at all. But they swear that’s something black men do in general & it’s weird af. Guys like that ALWAYS use AAVE & a faked forced TERRIBLE attempt at a blaccent. Matt Rife, Gary Owens, that white man whose last name is Rappaport, there’s literally SO many comedians, especially nonblack comedians, who are gaining/ have gained instant popularity for how terrible they are to women. All you have to do to become a popular “comedian” these days, if you’re not black that’s even better because if you use AAVE & horribly fake & forced blaccent while following this formula even better, is you clip yourself talking as mean as possible to a drunk woman in the crowd who’s acting drunk (I know very shocking that drinking people can act a little drunk from time to time 😱😱) & erroneously label her a Karen which is a term supposed to be reserved for white women who are especially RACIST & uses her status as a white woman to get what she wants, again, especially when it comes to black people, so idk how tf we’ve let them use that term against both BLACK women & black MEN even, when that’s just not even in the ballpark of being correct but that’s nothing new ofc, they destroy every part of black culture they can get their little unwashed hands on (like all the AAVE terms they don’t know how to use, they use them wrong until they’re completely drained of any & all meaning, see Karen, simp, & Lord knows the word WOKE, for some strong examples). So yeah, upload clips of you being misogynistic af, especially if you’re nonblack & you use AAVE while doing so, & you’re in there like swim wear. Instant popularity! It’s SO popular online right now to be as mean as possible to women & claim you’re “holding them accountable”/“humbling” them smh... The internalized misogyny this has caused in women too is just heartbreaking. I really thought the “pick me”/“not like other girls” eras ended in the early 2010s smh... I thought we shamed that out of those types of women way back then but I guess I was wrong. The ridiculous alphacel (they’re not involuntarily celibate, they’re celibate because they can’t get a woman because they CHOOSE to act a whole donkey & call that “being an alpha”. They’re celibate because they’re running women off by claiming to be “alphas”, hate to break it to y’all, but women don’t like that BS, that’s what MEN are attracted to in other MEN, NOT WOMEN!) nonsense is what’s causing this bs & has so many men by the dang THROAT right bow because they swear that’s what’s going to save them from the “evil” women who won’t even let them smell it because they don’t deserve our bodies, our time, or even to take up ANY space in our minds! This is why I call them alphacels instead of incels because incels implies that they’re some kind of victims of evil women who “won’t” give them THEIR MF BODIES, which they somehow have been made to believe, BY EACH OTHER, that they’re entitled to. 😒 Smh they’re literally CHOOSING to not be with women by pretending to be superior to women, idk who told them this was how the world works but they’ve fcked around for a LONG time now & they’re definitely in their find out era right now & they’re FEELING THAT PRESSURE BABY!! & it’s got them in SHAMBLES out here! That’s why a lot of them are acting out right now worse than ever because they’re scared af because equality feels like oppression to oppressors & just like nonblack people are scared of black people having any power because they think black people will treat them how they were treated, men are afraid women are going to treat them the way THEY deserve to be treated as well & it’s got them scrambling right now to hold on to every bit of the patriarchy they possibly can! So no, they’re not funny, they never have been, & they don’t even HAVE to be. Just upload a bunch of clips of you talking down to drunk female FANS of yours & you don’t even have to make a joke or anything, just say the most outrageous things as possible & you’re in there like swimwear. Instant popularity. & you didn’t even have to try. Again, no jokes necessary, don’t even have to attempt to be funny, just be mean to a drunk woman in your crowd who’s unsurprisingly acting drunk (hello!), incorrectly label her a “Karen” in the title of the clip, & sit back & watch the magic happen! You’d think they’d stop serving alcohol at their shows if they didn’t want drunk people “heckling” them like they’ll claim even though the opposite is true, they allow it to happen because they DO want them acting drunk at their shows because they KNOW that’s what’s popular right now. The least they can do is keep it 100. But we all know being real is not these types strong suit!
This is why I say “dark humor” is the most lazy of all because it’s not about “humor” at all, it’s just about being “dark” as possible. Just say something real controversial like a derogatory term against people with mental disabilities or say something misogynistic & you’ll have a GANG of people in your likes & comments claiming they “love dark humor” & CRYING about how their not are all real & very made up bs they call “cancel culture” (a term used to mock the concept of “r*pe culture” btw) is going to take their “favorite” comedian off the stage, even though there will literally not be a SINGLE SOUL calling for them to be “cancelled” but as we know, all that BS is just projection because THEY are the ones who wrote the mfn blueprints for “cancelling” & THEY are the ones who “play victim”, not the ones they accuse of that at all! It never fails. Being funny is not necessary at all, just be as “dark” as possible, especially towards women, children, people with disabilities, black people, most any disenfranchised group of people, & you’ll gain instant popularity, & again, bonus points if you’re a nonblack man using AAVE & a fake blaccent... you’ll gain even more popularity. It’s so lazy & played out but here we are. There’s not a single thing funny about that type at all. & they have the audacity to claim WOMEN aren’t funny. 🙄 These “comedians” SURE become very popular when they act like women though... funny how that works..
These “dark humor” mfs are the LAST mfs who need to be calling people not funny, that’s for sure.
Jordan, I have ADHD and EDS and was diagnosed with both in the last year or two. I am 35. It has been crazy how much I am thinking about my life and trying to give myself grace retroactively. It changes so much!
Also, totally understand the sitting and moving around and how your body doesn’t feel very reliable.
Hey guys! I always appreciate you guys taking so openly about your health and advocating for care. Your talking about your sleep apnea diagnosis inspired me to get tested. Turned out I’d gone almost a whole minute without breathing and was having 6+ events an hour. I just want to thank you for helping me improve my life. Also! I’m wearing my TMB hoodie while I enjoy this!
As someone who has a collie (Australian Shepard mix) I will say they are incredibly loyal to very specific ppl (primarily those who train them) high energy, so cuddly and really smart. She was pretty okay to train because she was trained as a baby, but she is incredibly manipulative to those who she doesn’t respect aka ppl who don’t uphold her rules/expectations. Highly reccomend if u want a needy homie who loves you deeply
I am mega sick right now to the point where I can’t sit at my desk to play games without being in physical pain. Great to have something to listen to while I lay in bed motionless
So glad I'm not the only one
Sameee I can't even breathe through my nose it sucks
Heyyy EDS representation!! Thanks for talking about your health thing Jordan it’s really cool to hear about other people who also have EDS. The thing about recontextualizing everything after a later diagnosis is so real. Welcome to the EDS club!! Also I’ve also been getting some testing done for sleep apnea recently, it’s actually fairly common with EDS wich is super fun lol so yea thanks for talking about this, nice to hear someone else talk about this stuff, it can feel isolating sometimes but hearing others bring it up is nice :)
Sleep apnea gang what uup! I have a CPAP machine and was diagnosed at 27. I didn't realize I had it until a partner pointed out that I was snoring super loudly and making choking noises lol. I would sleep like 10 hours, wake up, and need a nap.
When I got the study done, I found out my snoring was on decibel-level with "a nearby train" or "a garbage compactor."
I'm grateful to say I've now had my CPAP machine for three years and get the best sleep of my life.
Fun fact: I also realized I have ADHD as an adult, after getting my sleep sorted. Finding out time blindness was the term for what I experienced was so validating.
All of this is to say: I am really proud of you both for taking care of yourselves and getting support.
Thanks for another great episode!
i randomly got recommended a youtube channel where they were talking about how the "Special Ed Helmet" joke was suuuuper funny, and all the comments were agreeing. it was weird to see but i also realized that once people (especially a group) think a joke is funny, there's no way to convince them it isn't funny. if i tried say i don't think it's funny, i would have gotten "you're just bitter b/c you're a woman" it's a losing game. but honestly anyone could come up with that tier of joke
Waiting for Matt Rife to get married so he can joke about how much he hates his spouse...
I feel like he had like one or two funny jokes but rode the wave of being stereotypically attractive (tbh I dont think he's that good-looking, he feels too fake) and now he's popular for some reason
I just finished putting up my Christmas decorations. I have a cat on my lap and hot chocolate in my hands and I am so ready for this.
you're living the dream
sounds sooo cozy, you made me crave hot chocolate!
some context for the last few minutes - matt rife did actually do the traditional stand-up comedian route, he's done over a decade on the comedy club circuit but only blew up by accident after posting crowd work clips on tiktok during the pandemic.
Matt rife has never claimed to have autism.
just watched the matt rief bit. i'm gonna say, as an autistic person myself, that Special Needs Helmet thing crossed the fucking line. its one thing to call people dumb or whatever, but mentally disabled people are some of the most vulnerable and disrespected people in our society, and using them to insult people who found your DV joke unfunny is fucking gross. its no better than flat-out calling them the r-slur
in general, its disgusting how many low support autistic people throw ""weird"" or ""ugly"" disabilities & people who need more support under the bus. you'd think there'd be more solidarity (or at least some common deceny) towards our disabled siblings, esp those also on the spectrum, but guess not!
*(there's a lot autistic people who find terms like high functioning or low functioning, or mild autism, insulting and/or unhelpful. terms like "low/high support needs" is becoming more commonly used. ymmv, but i prefer "low/high support" since it's a more accurate description of the person's needs, whereas a lot of people just see "high functioning" as "barely even autistic" which is. not helpful. but that's a whole other discussion)
retar ded doesnt even mean disabled any more it just means you are an idi ot
the Boyz got it wrong, Matt Rife has never said he’s autistic. he just has an autistic nephew or something. So this is just another allistic dude doing stale, terrible, ableist bits
@@elitejustin7122 the r word has a history of being used in reference to disabled people. if i'm not wrong, it was used as the official term for people with autism at one point.
pretty sure matt rife isnt autistic also theres no evidence of it
Love the handholding part! I went to visit a person I've been in love with for six years recently, and while we were at a play she held my hand! Probably the happiest I have felt in my life
the dating discussion is awesome, especially for me stuck in the weird aspec limbo of wanting to date, but also not liking anyone in that way :3 (and I missed all of early-mid high school for depression/trans reasons, so I always feel very lost)
Congrats!! I’m so excited for the live show! My dad’s going with me and then we’re going to a concert after :)
I got more shorts of Matt Rife bits in the past than crowd work and a lot of the jokes worked for me. I even watched the special before finding out about the discourse. And I was just in such disbelief how unfunny it is. Like yes, the DV joke is problematic but the whole special is also just so boring. If the rest was funny then it'd just be one bad joke in a long set. But instead it's one unfunny joke after the next. Like he at one point was just ranting on and on about a twitter fight he had some time ago like ???
holy shit one of my favorite influencers has EDS‼️i struggle severely with EDS and it’s honestly amazing to see someone talk about it outside of a clinical video
Matt Rife gives Dennis from It Always sunny in Philadelphia vibes.
i bought the colorblock sweatshirt the first time it dropped and i was scared at first to wear it because i have body image issues when it comes to non darker clothes. I really like vibrancy and i wanted to try something new and finally tried it on and it took me awhile to get used to but i got a lot of compliments and its also one of my favorite pieces of clothing, thank you so much for making the color block shirt, i genuinely think its helped me become more confident with wearing brighter colors.
Always wanted to order Jarvis's merch because it looks neat and I never had enough money or I was late to the sale and items were sold out. Finally made it to this sale and bought myself a sweatshirt :) So happy to finally do it!
I have hEDS and have had two surgeries due to it now, and tons of physical therapy. I'm sorry you're dealing with it, but so glad you've figured it out!
Tbh I feel like in this internet climate a joke like that doesn’t come across as shocking but instead as something he truly believes, and the joke is ‘ha ha stupid girl’. I’m tired.
Most people aren't saying this but you're right. In 2023 there is a very delicate point that needs to be made clear in that people will have entirely different reactions to jokes depending on whether or not the joke-teller seems to genuinely believe their joke or not. Anthony Jeselnik gets away with saying absolutely horrible stuff because he's proven pretty consistently that he's a decent dude and doesn't believe it and simply established himself as the one who comes up with the horrible, immoral jokes. People watch him knowing to expect him to say something even he finds horrible because that's the point. Comedians like Matt Rife give off the vibe that they are just saying their true beliefs out loud and wanting people to laugh.
Thank you guys for being so open and honest. You guys convinced me that I need to get on top of my diagnosis and actually go to the doctor on monday
That’s so cool that Jordan has EDS too!!! It’s always comforting to see other people with it online
"All dogs are valid" is 2023's "All dogs go to heaven"
As a fellow literal hyperhydrosis head, I would kill for the product jarvis' makeup artist has
Please never stop the howdys Jordan
52:11 this reminds me of the Ashley Gavin stuff.
Also it just seems like we’ve collectively forgotten what stand up comedy is, the only thing that is remembered is that you are not suppose to interrupt someone on stage. Most people are waiting to “pop off” on an asshole that’s truly in the wrong or at the very least we’ve all rehearse comebacks to shit situations we have to endure….. it’s easy and requires no comedic skill to RESPOND to a heckler we are all rehearsing that all the time, it’s a lot harder to stand on stage and create comedy one your own. It’s almost like that’s the skill.
Also to be a total asshole, the way Rifes face is arranged gives me the creeps, it’s like a toned down Jim Carrey Grinch face
So uhhh, I am finding your podcast so refreshing and reassuring and I love that you all so openly discuss mental and physical health struggles and the reluctance to even go to a doctor for either. I've been trying to come to terms with this and am older than y'all. It's overwhelming as all hell now that I've fallen so far behind especially on the "side issues." My parents paid for all my dental work as a kid but as an adult? They were temporary fixes and now exacerbating issues just feel embarrassing and so easy to avoid. Add in some more "feminine issues" that some old school docs basically treat like 19th century hysteria and that women don't handle pain well....ughhhh!
Broke down and got a psychiatrist last year (game changer) but still stubborn and horribly awkward with therapists. Still struggling to make appointments for a condition that was ignored for years as a "myth" but is now being rapidly accepted post Covid. Had multiple blood tests to prove it but "ehhh...that's not a thing." Yup, never caught Covid that I know of but do have reoccuring EBV/Mono. So thanks fellow sufferers for getting your first mono relapse after a harsh bout of Covid and getting the wishy washy "guess its just long Covid" runaraound. Second I found a gastroenterologist that believed me (ha! who would ever think to connect that specialty to mono!), she was like...."oh yeah that kind of liver damage is absolutely a side effect for a small percentage of people when they first catch it. But if you've had it reoccuring for two decades? Well of COURSE that's going to happen!" Cool....cause like that knowledge would have been great when I reactivated months before Covid hit and me and the rest of the world were like....two months of alcoholism until this all blows over? SURE!
Anyways, not only is it refreshing to see two cool dudes address their mental and physical health struggles but its cool to find that I'm not some weird outlier like my boomer family sometimes leans into and now they are all reaching 65 and getting Medicare and holy friggin' hell that's some amazing health insurance.
I've recently promised myself that, at my next appointment, I am actually going to ask for an autism or ADHD assessment as an adult. I've been told by boomers "so you want the label? Then you can get the good drugs?" Yeah....no, I want to be a more functional content person. Already a "hardcore" addict of my anxiety/depression meds because they have serious withdrawal symptoms in under 48 hours so what the hell? I had been on many other easier ones but this one just clicked in no other way. Went from crippling "maybe I'm dying?" panic attacks to forgetting I even still had benzos in the house within 3 months. Now I have a nice little stash in case the holiday family season does get out of hand!
Also just to add that our middle school field trip from Ohio to DC happened in spring 2000. And I'm pretty sure we absolutely toured the white house and the capitol and I remember practically nothing because it was such a dry tour! I recommend watching "The American President," the silly 90s presidential romcom for a much more satisfying and adorable White House tour with an emphasis on the Dish Room!
My dog is obsessed with chasing squirrels. They mess with him and throw pinecones at him in our backyard lol. One time he found a dead one and snatched it up in his mouth before I could stop him. Man was he pretending so hard like he caught it himself. I had to pry his jaws open to drop it lol
The video hasnt started for me and for some reason i thought ur dog was gonna be a huge fan of this comedian
@theenita6 i literally thought it was gonna say "my dog is obsessed with matt rite"
sooo obsessed with the squirrels throwing pinecones at your dog
omg birds used to do the same thing with my old dog (RIP). He'd chase them and then they'd chase him.
for the makeup i suggest getting yourself a nice oil based cleanser. they're pretty cheap and very kind to the skin and require no scrubbing! i wear heavy goth makeup and ive been unable to scrub my face properly many times due to new piercings and i find this always works for me :)
As an ace person, i relate so hard to Jordan's early crush expeiences
i like how people bring back mustaches, all started with eddy the fearless barenjaw
Absolutely pissing my pants bc I am a 22 year old woman and got diagnosed + CPAP for sleep apnea in May of this year. I thought I was a goblin anomaly bc I’m a young person with sleep apnea so I’m loving the ongoing convo about sleep health on the pod. Hope you’re both hanging in there!
We have a border collie, german sheppard mix. His name is Zuko. Its a very VERY loyal combo but he has really funny moments. Like border collie wants to be crazy and just run around no thoughts but the German Shepard wants to serve and protect. Its very funny.
the discussion about holding hands and light touches is so wholesome and true. even as an adult those things are so much more romantic than I think a lot of ppl think.
sometimes my boyfriend holds my hand as we fall asleep and it literally makes my heart soar. when we wake up in the mornings we have a nice long hug, and before we leave for work we talk a short walk and hold hands. they are "small things" but they mean so much. we have been together 5 years but we took everything very slowly and I think when ppl rush into things they miss the romance. passion is great and I'm not shaming anyone for for they go about things, I'm just saying to go with your own pace (like y'all said, which was great advice) and just enjoy each thing as it happens. it's all valuable when it comes to creating a bond and developing the relationship❤
love you guys!!! you rock!! 🎉
literally WHO says all dogs are made the same and they're all equally easy to train?? i do believe any dog can be trained, but that is INFALLIBLY not true that it's all the same. we specifically made many dogs for the express purpose to learn things lmao
People just like him because they think he’s attractive, he’s not funny.
i watched the comedy special because i'd seen funny clips of his crowd work on tiktok... needless to say i was unpleasantly surprised.
Shout out to the sad boys being awesome, handsome, kind, funny. And the most important, being THE sad boyz
Yay congrats on selling out the live show!! I’m not surprised at all that you did. Hopefully I can go someday when I visit the US again ❤