First Ride 2023 Husqvarna TX300 Fuel Injected Two Stroke - Dirt Bike Magazine
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It’s here! The Husqvarna TX300 two-stroke is available now and we have one. This has a completely new motor with throttle body fuel injection. We’ve been going nuts waiting for this bike and it actually arrive sooner than we expected. So it’s only been five years since Husqvarna and KTM came out with their first EFI two-strokes, which were all transfer port injection. Now, they’ve gone back to throttle body injection, which seems to be older technology. Does that mean TPI was a failure? Husqvarna’s people say no and point out that TPI is still used on the TE300. The nature of that design provides a very smooth power delivery, which is perfect to the more trail-oriented TE. In the last five years, both designs have been in continual development. Now, throttle body injection has developed to the point that it comes closer to the original goal, which is a more carburetor-like power delivery. That translates to a more aggressive nature, which is appropriate for the TX300, a cross country race bike. It also solves the problem of how to lubricate the crankshaft. With TPI, oil injection was necessary. By moving the injectors upstream, the crank and rod bearings are lubricated by oil mixed in the gas, which seems to be the way two-stroke purists like it. Setting the issue of fuel-injection aside, the rest of the motor is new, too. The electronic powervalve is now controlled by the same CPU that alters the fuel mixture and the spark advance. It has to be the most complicated multidimensional map ever. Like most of Husky’s new bikes the TX300 got a new frame, although it is different from the one used for the four-strokes. We think it must be lighter because the TX300 didn’t gain weight like all those other bikes. On our scale without fuel, it weighs 224 pounds, which is the same as last year’s version. The suspension is basically the same as that used by the motocross bikes, just revalved for off-road use. It has slightly less suspension travel than its KTM counterpart (the 300XC). That’s to reduce seat height. The TX300 has about a half-inch less seat height than the KTM.We’ve finally come to terms with the new Husqvarna frame and appreciate its strengths and weaknesses. It’s stiffer, which results in a negative first impression, based purely on comfort. After you ride it a little longer, you realize that it’s more stable at speed and has less chassis movement. It still initiates turns with very little effort and has less squat under acceleration. Plus, we’ve learned once you get more time on the frame, it loosens up a little and the rigidity becomes less of a factor.
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Awsome bike , long live the 2 stroke I never changed teams all these years 2 stroke for life 💪🏼
Awesome grammar too
@@Dave.S.TT600 nerd
@@Rockyo1 you spelled 'Nerd' correctly
@@Dave.S.TT600 ok Nerd .
Glad to see two strokes are still getting better an better!
The new 450 4 strokes are like the same wieght as my 02 Yamaha 250 F ! Crazy I wonder how this bike would compete with a new 450 four stroke
I was really hoping that one day 2 strokes will step higher up unto the motocross platform and yeah it did, really a great accomplishment thanks to Husqvarna tx300. I cannot afford to buy one but I do believe my prayers to have tx300 shall be a great reality one day, one day. Let's go "TEAM HUSQY".
Pickung ny '23 TX 300 today, cant wait
Lucky boy , congrats and enjoy 👍🏻
That so sick, enjoy it friend
🎉 congratulations; May I ask if you’ve had prior 2stroke experience and why’d you decide on this?
I would be to if my wife wasnt such a buzzkill.
@@MrNikugu , here's to watching you get put in your place if you ever asked some many people that.
Love the 2 strokes!!
Nic Garvin is THE MAN!
Love the overall trickery and modern design of this bike. Dark blue frame, light gray plastics, and fluorescent yellow accents look sweet
you like the modern aesthetics, you mean
Sick
Picking mine up in two hours!!
Although none of this technology is for me, I prefer the standard carb and no electronics that Yamaha offer, I’m so appreciative that these European manufactures are offering the alternative and are continuing to push 2 stroke technology! Keeping it alive and breaking boundaries. Great video :)
I have had many years yz 250 and got. A 2018 tx 300 carb model best bike I have ever owned by a mile
Barks, really barks - nice
I am not buying the Steel Frame will break in. Its not going to be any different 10 hours later. Its steel lol. The suspension will break in obviously but I am not buying the notion the Frame will change enough to notice a difference after 10 hours.
awesome!
Cool !!
Wow what a beautiful bike. I've been wanting a 2 stroke again, kx 250 would be my go-to, but this thing looks so beautiful and sounds just right!
So bringing EFI into the Realm there might be HOPE that 2 Smoke will make a comeback BIG Time
Would be great but I hate to say, the environmental people are still going to shut down the 2 stroke. It doesn't matter how much they try to clean it up, there is only so much you can do and it still burns oil.
Love the yellow and grey color scheme, just wish the frame was the gray like the 22’ models
It's so cool having two-stroke fuel injected dirtbike motorcycles. Now Husqvarna, go back to the drawing board to develop two-stroke street bike motorcycles. Thank you.
Love 2 stroke
But does the polyamide subframe still break as easy like on some of the previous models?
0: 42 - 0: 48, you are an accomplished and very fast rider.
Thru the entire video your feet never touched the track and were off a peg only once. A lot of precise placement and some steering with the back tire. Giving credit where due, man.
Whew.
😁👍🏽
The Modern Riding Style 🙌
I miss the glory days of 2 strokes
Sweet
I'll say that the looks are growing on me. At first I thought they looked terrible....but I'm warming up to them.
It looks terrible, for sure.
@@nastysoda9212 we all complained about the new 23 YZ Line it just grows on you I guess 🤷♂️
Nice, but light years behind direct injection used in 2-stroke snowmobile motors.
Idk, they’re still really snappy and more similar to a really good running carbed bike. And they have a little bit better shaped combustion chamber cuz they don’t have to have a spot for the injector. They’ve tried the transfer ports and they just don’t run as good as the throttle body. I feel like they oil better too like this
Nice video about a very interesting bike! Just that music... 🙄
i havent ridden any modern two stroke.. and now i want to try one of these in the worst way!
Me too. I grew up on 90’s 2strokes. I think the most recent two-stroke that I’ve ridden was my buddies 2015 300XCW. I hated it. I can hardly ride it and that probably has a lot to do with riding four strokes but damn it vibrated so much that I could not get used to it. It was so much vibration in my hands and feet that made it unbearable for me. That’s why I really want to ride a new two-stroke because they’ve fixed a lot of that.
@@Bt26x they got rid of the vibrations in 2017 with a counter balancer shaft. Much smoother than old 2 strokes. These bikes are way different compared to the 2 strokes of old power delivery wise. The are so good at low rpm and the old 2 strokes were terrible at doing this.
I bet thats badass
Im hoping this one makes as much HP as a good carbed version? I knew TPI wasnt for me as soon as it came out. The oil pump? The short top end life, the lower HP............the need to "jet it" with expensive electrical parts....Throttle body is better?
That is a good looking bike!
That looks dangerous body armour and a decent circuit. Stay safe¡!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish they had done direct injection. It would run much cleaner because less oil is needed for the crank to counter the fuel washing effect.
Your an engineer? The TPI ran on less oil, and top end life was shorter than a carbed bike by a ways. KTM played with direct injection and the complication is why it didnt happen.
@@bradsanders6954 TPI top end life is just as good and is as equal as any carb bike, guaranteed. Actually I replace more top ends sooner on carb bikes mostly due to owners not mixing fuel properly. But the TPI bikes easily go 180- 200 hours for your average hot dog rider and the cylinder looks perfect.
What was the problem with the suspension?
Every time i see "premieres" i get bummed cause my dumbass never remembers to go back in youtube to watch them.
yer not a dumb ass, you're a rider or racer and bonked yer head a few times. Uhm, what my name again. :-O :-D
If lived in the boonies i would buy one and run it on the gravel roads.
I’m an old man now but God knows I love my two smokes and I would almost trade my Harley for this bad boy
Picked mine up last night from the husky dealer behind my house. Walked in to see if they had the ktm, and they didn’t but they just got this in yesterday morning, for $100 more i scooped it up. Curious to see how gncc racing will be on one of these vs my 2017 crf450r I’m currently racing.
This is my favorite host
Drives me insane,,,, Husk-uh-varna,,,, nope, its hoosk·vaar·nuh!!!
Weve always called it huskavarna
You forgot a major difference between the old and new, new gearing closer to the te
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Hear me out guys fuel injected 500 2 stroke.
As an Off road rider most on my life, the very last thing I would want is a stiffer frame or a more aggressive powerband than a 22. I know change creates hype and sells bikes. Although sometimes changes just have have zero effect on lap time and actually hurt.
Its crazy. I don't see how a steel frame is going to break in like they say it will. I don't see the frame loosening up after 10 hours to the point you can tell a difference. The suspension it self will defiantly break in and loose up. However all the folks reviewing it including the smaller channels who bought the 23 KTM XC 300 say its the best two stroke ever made hands down. The lap times also back it up. Many riders were faster on the 23 sx300 then the new KTM 350 motocross bike. And almost all the riders were faster on the sx300 then the ktm 450. They rode all three back to back on the same track. All brand new models. I am going to chance it and get the 23 ktm xc 300. I cant find anything negative about it worth mentioning in all the videos on the bike.
How do these do on gas compared to carbureted two strokes?
4:06 Ha ha ha, welcome to the 2020s KTM 👌
Sherco has had electric power valves since 2014 & their new direct on cylinder systems since 2018, and it wasn't a new idea then.
No doodling around with janky coloured springs, just torque and power everywhere.
Is this premix?
I knew I shouldn’t of watched this.😊
I imagine it's very expensive, I wonder what sales numbers are like for dirt bike manufacturers. I prefer the bikes of forty years ago that people could afford. Back then I knew lots of people who had a dirt bike, now I don't know anyone with one. It's funny hearing that a new bike like this needs any suspension work beyond tuning.
My wish for Christmas
How do u put the mirrors on the 2023 model plz
I bet this is a real animal. My 2023 TE150 has more than enough power for me.
Hahaha 😁👌
10k for a dirtbike and we need to have the suspension revalved?
I like Des bike.. I am a Filipino.wow Des is my dream
Still waiting for that yz300x with electric start.....🤦🙃
VS Honda crf450 with aluminum frame lets say?? for quality frame and race ability?
✌🤙
Hi, I used to ride the 2017 husqvarna 300TE, and it is much taller and bigger than the new 2023, do you confirm this information? The 2023 looks VERY SMALL, it looks like a 150cc Ktm 😮😮, they make modifications for the weight and the taller???
I wonder how 2023 TBI compares to my Athena GET ECU Race Kit which included injection relocation to throttle body AND the Athena GET ECU - along with a Slavens Racing high compression head and custom maps from Jeff Slavens on my 2019 TE 300i?…. I also got Kreft Moto suspension which addresses the lameness of stock TE suspension. I also own and frequently ride a 2021 KTM XC 250, so I know the difference of a TX and TE and certainly prefer the XC, however for anything hard or medium enduro my Slavens Raving TE 300i is hard to beat.
I think you just like talking about yourself...
@@motoyamasnigglepuff8654 and you like your doosh bag…
That’s a lot of money to ‘fix ‘ a dirt bike. The old carb models just worked out of the box.
@@marcgucciardo1942 it was a bike build for fun - not fixing the bike.
@@marcgucciardo1942 lol...yea my antique new yz125 starts first kick every time and runs perfectly every single ride... And pours 927 out the bills carbon silencer right in the same air all the greenies breathe and I love it!
What brakes were on your test bike? Brembo or Braketec?
Braketec
I have a 2023 exc 500 and I absolutely love it. But I do love the way that 2 stroke sounds. Over 12k for a not street legal bike seems insane tho.
There about 5 years from pricing there selves out of business. Sad Times. Heck a good mountain bike is 4k a bad ass mountain bike is 8 to 10k. Its insane. I just got a 21 trek retail 4k for 2100 slightly used. Its worth the 2k but not 4k. Everything is getting way to expensive. 13.00 for 12 count nugget meal upgrade from fries to mac and cheese. I am about to go buy some real chickens lol .
@@MR.TOYBOXsad reality
TX200 tbi bike please 🙏🏼
Too bad they are getting rid of kickstarts
Is it basically the latest ktm 300 xc? Looks like it.
Yes same bike
I’ll check back if you promise to dump the music
Looks like we'll be doing what we had to do in the old days. Buy a new sweet 2 stroke and turn it into enduro bike with flywheel, sprockets, lighting coil and lights and other misc add-ons. Or maybe they plan on a EX-C equivalent?
Wondering what the weight is on this bike?
Just buy the TE for a trail bike instead of the TX. They said the weight without fuel was 224 lbs
@@DirtBikes_MathGarden
You'd only buy the TE once they move away from the failed TPI system.
@@Danger_mouse how is TPI a failure? I have nothing but great things to say about the TPI system, especially once they got the quirks worked out in ‘21. I admit the 19’s and 20’s are not ideal.
I raced 24 Hours of Glen Helen on a husky 300 TPI and it was absolutely grand. No problems whatsoever. Top end rebuilt at 50 hours and the piston looked like it could’ve gone another 30-35 easily.
@@DirtBikes_MathGarden
Great you've had a good experience with the TPI system, and for regular Enduro riding it generally works OK. Thousands of owners had to put up with the well documented TPI issues of poor running, lacking bottom end torque and the ongoing blocked pressure sensors. For hard enduro, they need a ton of work to make them usable and as good as the competition in respect of power delivery. (Take a look at Graham Jarvis' bike, which is heavily modified with Two Stroke Performance gear to get it right)
This is not to mention the many owners who had low hour seizures.
Sure as you said, the 21 onwards set up is better, as it has the extra sensor that the system should have had from day one. Ktm used all their previous owners as guinea pigs with a sub par set up, while telling owners there was nothing wrong.
IF TPI is so great, why is it that KTM now has TPI and TBI? 🤷
EFI on two stroke engines is a great thing, as a mechanic I'm glad they're finally coming into the 2000s personally, but KTM muffled the execution and turned hoards of owners off it.
TBI is the better system and I expect other companies like Sherco and Beta to release models with it on very soon.
600 hours on my tpis, never had a problem with it.
What is the fastest 2 stroke on the market? In terms of acceleration, quickness, torque not top speed
Orangeburg
You might have picked a trail where the rider could get on the pipe for more than 1 1/2 seconds.
so the only question unanswered, is will KTM leave TPI in 24 on the XCW due to emissions, or will the XCW also be the NEW TBI ? anyone have a definitive answer, NOT a guess. At the beginning of the video the narrator indicates this is going on all ktm's moving forward, but I thought TPI had to stay for emissions bull crap. The XC or "off road only" models can get away with it.
The TE 2 strokes will still have TPI so I'm the XC KTMs will have the new stuff and the XCWs will keep TPI
@@sanddabs159 so your thinking in 2024 the KTM 300XCW and Husky models will keep the TPI system, and KTM will produce two fairly different platforms, seems like it would be very expensive for them, but if EPA or something is forcing it, I don't know. Is this opinion or do you have some contacts.
@@goneridingparts the head on the xc and this bike only have one injector boss on the head. If the 2024 street legal versions retain tpi they will need a different head with 2 injectors as they have currently. I really hope they use TBI. Will they retain oil injection?
@@goneridingparts Thats what husky is doing. The TX, essentially a KTM XC has the new stuff. The TE, basically the KTM XCW, is keeping the old TPI
@@sanddabs159 But thats because they renew the XCW - EXC line up one year after the XC line up. It has always been like this. So next year they should follow the XC updates, or maybe not...
They went backwards. Stiff frames suck.
Wow, two stroke and a 300. How did Texas get on it.
The real problem with the Husky 300 is, if you don't win. it's not the bike's fault. 😎
Whose idea was it to put number 21 on a 23?
There's a "A" in "Husqvarna
Am I the only one who thinks putting an EFI on a 2 stroke is stupid... Learn to jet your bikes people! This just continues the trend of making the least expensive dirt bike format more expensive and complicated.
وسيله نقل توصلك لأى مكان تريدة .؟ ما اروعها من وسيلة .حسبى الله ونعم الوكيل . كنت امتلك واحدة أما الآن .؟
It's a pity it's not technically feasible to build a much quieter two stroke without completely strangling the power output. There's an annoying little shit in our neighborhood who rides around on a scooter with a two stroke motor - it's only 50cc, but it sounds like a chainsaw hooked up to a bank of marshall amplifiers.
He must have it turned up to 11…😂
dude, thumpers are way harder on the ears.
@@ryanwilson8629 Larger capacity thumpers I can bear. But high revving 125 four stroke singles with a loud can, is also one of the most obnoxious rackets known to man, imo.
Equipped with Bractech or Brembo brakes?
Magura on Husqvarna…
TX comes with Brembo, TE comes with Braktec (not sure why they are different or what the difference is).
@@MechShark I did not know that. I thought all Husqvarna still have Magura.
asking what is actually on the bike? 2 dealers are saying the new 2023 Husky 300TX will be Bractech due to supply problems with brembo?
@@larrypatton9663 Husqvarna website says Brembo brakes and hydraulic clutch.
My dream is.i want a dery bike bot I don't have Manny to Bai dat
🤍🤍🤍👍🙏
TPI was a failure, simple, people hated the power delivery hence the multitude of mods available, and unreliable, on top of the engine mods needed you add suspension work required your looking at a 20k plus bike !
I know. 80 hour piston life. 80 hour oil pump life. I knew when it first came out it wasnt for me. Who wants to spend all that time and money "jetting" a TPI bike to make as much power as a carbed bike?
Injection with mixgaz..lol real joke
Take the te300i for real injection power
Yamaha is better an cheaper, sad but the Japanese build the best bikes!!! Do buy weak huskys!!
Ruined / I watchable with the loud Shite "music"
We want to hear the engine!! 😤
KTM came out with the same thing like this one
Hey Einstein its all the same motorcycle, just a different color, KTM husky gas gas all the same bike built on the same production line just a different color minus any little BS they do to make it different from each "brand". Its all a KTM
buy a Yamaha
Brappp
@@motoyamasnigglepuff8654 I agree with you my man ktm, husky, and gas gas are the same thing
New engine, new forks, new shock, new swingarm, new frame, new radiator cap, etc, etc. I respect pushing development, but have reservations regarding bike set up. Takes time to get new stuff dialed in. Regardless, looks good, and I would like to ride it.
Husky is the premium brand (with premium parts), then KTM, then GasGas
@@MXJEFF94 LoL yea premium Indian junk..
Buy Yamaha
Why did you feel it necessary to have to use background music playing ? Background music in CZcams videos needs to go away ASAP and its blasphemy to EVER use background music on a video about 2 strokes, you might as well be playing CZcams Muzak behind Beethoven for christs sake. NO MORE BACKGROUND MUSIC IN VIDEOS, we wanna hear the bike without elevator muzak droning on.
They need to stop completely redesigning the engine every year and instead settle on something and fine tune it to perfection. You're running untested parts every year, also no aftermarket parts whatsoever. I'll stick to my yz 250's until ktm figures out their shit.
New Huskies are in my top 10 ugliest bikes of all time. Just not sure exactly where yet.
Amen...had good looking bikes but they somehow went backwards about 20 years, KTM group is always messing with shit, to do it, no other reasons. These bikes are now obnoxiously ugly in your face ugly...
Those Austrian/germans can't leave anything good alone.
Thank god for Yamaha!
Bled Blu!
Love my YZ250X
Just get new plastic with snazzy graphics and keep the ugly gray for resale as a spare. Problem solved.....however, it still holds true that they shouldn’t be ugly to begin with....GasGas bikes are gorgeous.
The KTM/Husqvarna 300 bikes suck in the California desert. They're too light and dance around/deflect too much.
You need to get your suspension dialed in
@@paulg7964 I've already spent a ton in it.
When I did a trip to San Felipe on my 2 stroke, I swapped bikes with my buddy. Yamaha wr 400.
80 miles back to Tecate.
I sold my 2 stroke about a week later.
When I got my WR400 I ordered a new upper clamp to mount my Scotts steering stabilizer.
Totally un needed.
The 4 stroke engine really helps that stable feeling.
I could run thru woops so much faster and that bike was a pig.
Sorry to say but your current bike might not be a good fit for your riding style.
Your bike is much more agile at the cost of stability.
Tough to help without knowing your skills ect.
@Paul G I prefer the stability, especially at speed. I had a modded Honda 450X that was by far the best bike I've ever owned. Started riding at 6, raced moto, hare and hound, and worcs. I'm 51 now my skill set is adequate.
Nice review looks like a great, modern 2 stroke. But I'll be happy to argue it's not a political challenge. It's an environmental challenge. Why do people insist on making it a "political" challenge? It has nothing really to do with politics and more to do with reality or denial.
There's no denying that is one ugly bike.
You say that but the word is KTM is 100 percent putting the TBI on the 2024 XCW-300 so if they do that then does that mean the claim that TPI was not a failure might not hold?
Im still Riding the old junk motor that lasts 400+ hours, shucks 😅
Why do they cost so much 😕
TPI is garbage and the bikes were slugs. I hope TBI is way better
Have you actually owned one?