If you have read the bible you would know that back in the day's of jesus they used disfellowshiping to show and correct the sins in the congregation inorder to steer the sinner onto the right path which is still used today but some just prefer to go there own ways! You just don't want the truth so go the way that makes you happy!
was raised from birth in this and disfellowshipped at 16. parents were not allowed to talk to me starting at age 18 and they still don’t. my heart goes out for anyone who wants to get out of this religion but are scared of being shunned by family. i hope you all get out, it gets easier, i promise.
@@Survivorrr wait till you're of age and make your decision then. There are some good things I took away from my past as a JW. Public speaking. Social interactions with strangers. Ability to quickly absorb information and summarise using your own words. I admit, these are all things that have helped me in life, personal and professional.
I tried to run away after I reported abuse at 16 and they hospitalized and drugged me and made it to where I could not testify and called me a delusional bipolar schizophrenic and drugged me on antipsychotics that made me gain over a hundred pounds after an inappropriately treated Traumatic Brain Injury from torture and let my graduate thesis committee take credit for my graduate Fulbright dissertation cotton polyphenol gossypol Microbiology pharmaceutical research proposal without paying or crediting me and set up a conservatorship and had me declared clinically insane and held in Skull and Bones run hospitals that nearly killed me and stopped letting me drive.
My entire family are JW's including my oldest son 48 years old whom has not spoken to me since he was 18 years old. My mother didn't speak to me for 20 years, my sister I saw her on her wedding day when she was 20 and saw her again at the age of 52 years old. My brothers I wouldn't recognize them if I see them on the street. I'm a Christian and pray for my family every night. It has been an extremely painful experience not having my family but after 20 years of psychotherapy, I finally surrender and gave it to the Lord and he has healed my heart. I'm extremely at peace....finally.
@@maryannlockwood7806 Me too. I faded when I was 20 when I made research about them. When I found out about their failed predictions, child abuse lawsuits, and hypocrisy such as being a member NGO of the UN in the year 2000.
If you leave than the people in your congregation will see you as worldly and will shun you and not speak to you, your parents will shun you to if they are witnesses. Since we love our parents we would rather not have them ignore and hate us.
Every single word in this video is true. My ex-JW husband took care of his mother all through her infirmity until her death. She was a JW. His three JW siblings did nothing to help her. When she died, he was shunned at her funeral. Memorial pamphlets were being handed out at the door of the Kingdom Hall, and when the man handing them out recognized my husband, he yanked it away from him. The depth of this cruelty when he was in grief was the most cruel act I have ever witnessed.
for what happened is not right. we humans need the bible to understand what Jehovah and Jesus wants from us. Before I became a Jehovah's Witness my mother took us to several religions and what I saw from an early age is that Jehovah's Witnesses are the most loving peaceful people in the whole entire world. having said that -- we are imperfect --every one is -- even Jehovah's Witnesses. But if we follow the good book--we should aim for what jesus said in john --13:35--. if you read this and you heart moves you read the bible--and you will learn that apostle peter became prejudiced but he was humble enough to take correction and change. ( can you imagined if he would not have changed? do you think the other apostles still accept him with his racist attitude---- lets say true christianity would not be the same.)
@@javiermurillo2428 the only book anyone who believes in God and in Christ should read is the Bible, not the millions of books and magazines that are contributed by Jehovah's Witnesses. All you have to do before opening it to read it is to ask the Holy Spirit to guide you for understanding, and then it will seem like you are reading a whole different book, for every truth is going to be revealed to you. I guarantee it, as long as you believe it in your heart.
Just as shocking is this organization will shun people if you don't comply with their rules and regulations they put pressure on people caught up in this organization to deny family and longtime friends and acquaintances who decide to think for themselves and bring up questions about the Jehovah Witness faith
@@sabrinabowden-hughes1730 I have commented on this elsewhere, I once knew somebody who was disfellowshipped, and when I learnt how he was treated, I was shocked and could hardly believe it To have somebody who walks into the kingdom hall, and cannot even say a courteous "morning sabrina" and to be COMPLETELY BANNED from just saying "hello Keith", even if nothing else, then if I was the disfellowshipped one, and you was a baptised witness, run the risk of being disfellowshipped and shunned for just being polite? - then no, that's not for me, I've had few friends in my life, but to be treated like that? That's not christianity, that's what is called evil beyond belief
My mom has quit because she found out about this. I feel like I’m finally free from a jail. My mom told my sister and I that they would continuously try to take us away from her when we would go somewhere in groups. My mom never wanted to leave us thankfully but I don’t wanna know what would happen if she let us go. We were scared and had to stay at our house. We have to be cautious whenever we go to the grocery stores and other stuff we need because we might see them. Before quarantine they would come knock on our doors and stay there for ours to see if we would respond. They always text and call us as well. My mom can’t block them because they might contact us and we wouldn’t know it was a member. One time, they stayed when I came home from school. My sister was in middle school and she didn’t come yet. They were just standing there and my mom was gonna call the cops. They left and thankfully my sister didn’t come home yet. It was very scary. Sorry if I don’t have good English. It’s not my first language.
I'm a 50 y.o. Jehovas witnesses, I knew at 12 it was wrong, I broke away at 16 but luckily my family never turned their back on me. I'm so sorry for those who have.
San Tropez and what do you assumed this was written for us? Why your assuming this means we should follow some rules from a religion? How do you even know what’s the right interpretation of this words? How do you even know where the Bible comes from? Who was the apostle Paul? This person was talking or writing to other contemporary people. What makes you think this applies to us? Because reasons.
I was raised in "The Truth" as both my grandparents were Jehovah's Witnesses. My aunt and uncle chose to stop going when they were 16 and my grandmother never made a big deal about it but I was the exception. Because my dad had killed himself, my grandmother once said she was raising me "to fix how she messed up with her other kids" meaning I was FORCED to attend every meeting, bible study, and assembly. I couldn't have friends outside of the organization. And when the abuse my grandmother inflicted on me was brought to light and DFCS got involved, I was sent to live with my biological mother (who wasn't a JW but was equally as abusive as my grandmother). Once I finally fought my way out of that situation and came back to my hometown, I was shunned by all of my family that are still Jehovah's Witnesses. I'm the only one. My aunt and uncles. My cousins. All of the ones that CHOSE to leave still have contact with the family. I'm never thought of. Never spoken of. They don't contact me and on the off chance I see any of them in public they look the other way and pretend I'm not there. When I was young and still in "The Truth", the way the brothers and sisters of our congregation would get me to be a good witness was to remind me of my dead father and say "Don't you want to be a part of the New System so you can see your dad?" A couple of years back I got a letter in the mail from my cousins grandmother. It was a nice letter. She reminisced about when my cousin and I were younger and talked about how much joy me coming to spend the night with her and my cousin brought her. It was a fairly long letter and I was smiling by the time I got to the last page. Then... "I wish you would come back to Jehovah. Your children need The Truth. They need Jehovah. Don't you want to save your children's lives?" I'm in my 30's now and the only family I have are my kids and my husband but that's all I need.
They were so cruel to you,no Christian love at all. I am JW but not too involved,not brain washed. My eyes are open now and I see how corrupted this organization is. Good for me only I and my son are JW. They still do not know What I think,although know me as a person with independent mind. I believe in most doctrines I have learned but I despise Governing body and Organization in general.
@@carlamcdaniel9425 because I have friends I dont want to loose them. I do not attend every meeting on Zoom and I do not do field service and do not give donations. Only I and my son are JW in the whole family and he is critical about GB too.
Tons of Blessings on your Journey to Freedom 🍀 it's a process of healing the indoctrination and finding your True Self and your answers within so be patient & take it easy!!!
@@rickyclark2021 Wake up! Your cult protects child abusers with their two witness rule that is why they lost the Montana Verdict and the Australian Royal Commission. They failed their predictions several times such as 1920 when Rutherford built Beth Sarim. Wake up! You're in a cult!
I was raised as a Jehovah’s Witness, but I was never baptized into the faith. I grew disenchanted with the religion when my female classmate (whose parents converted to the faith when she was a toddler) was excommunicated. I really began to distance myself from the faith four years later. I moved out of the parental home another four years later.
I'm so grateful that I had the opportunity to raise my Clildren in the truth today they are adults responsible free of useing bad substances I'm a truly proud parent all credit goes to our loving heavenly father jehova God thank you jehova
Congratulation to the reporting of City News Toronto. You were spot on in your report. The three insiders were honest, not exaggerating their experiences and talked from the heart, not with an axe to grind. As someone who went as far as an unbaptised publisher and was active in the organization for several years, I concur with the reporting and experiences.. Great job!
Right on!! "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love." - 1John 4:18
Shakaro26er: I refer you to Eccl. 12:13 1-- "The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard: Fear the true GOD and keep HIS commandments, for this is the whole obligation of man." (See also, Matt. 10:28; 2 Cor. 7:1; Eph. 5:21; Phil. 2:12; Heb. 5:7; 1 Pet. 2:17; Rev. 14:7; 19:5). Heb. 5:7 reads "During his life on earth, CHRIST offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the ONE who was able to save HIM out of death, and he was favorably heard for his Godly fear." Only perfect love casts out all fear (1 John 4:18). I don't know anyone who is perfect in love, do you?
I would only suggest you get a little more context in what this godly “fear” refers to, maybe studying a little more, not trying to belittle u btw. This is the best way to put it, when one doesn’t want to disappoint their parent, there’s a sense of fear, this is the same fear, it is not a morbid one, the Bible says god is love, so much was done for us to have the hope that we have, there’s not much gain in expanding the ministry how it has and in the multitudes of languages as well other than to get the message across via the Bible, I’ve disbelieved before, several times, and also not cared, but I grew a hunger to know the truth and it was clear after studying what it was and my sadness was b/c I needed to dig just a little deeper, and want to too ofc.
Linda Maddox FEAR subjects people into forced servitude not willing actions because of LOVE to do things in a happy spirit. Forced servitude brings on MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS such as HATRED, insecurity, fear of loosing some thing you once or even now held or hold dear to yourself. This Jehovah may be seen as a psychotic who through his jealousy has lost the plot!! Thus he isn't worth WORSHIPPING.
Thats sane Christian thinking. The JW cult is "stay with us forever or be horribly murdered by God at judgement day" they are the only "real" Chriistians supposedly.
The Kingdom Hall is a pain factory. Disfellowshipping doesn't just mess up the dissfellowshipped it messes up the people inside the kingdom hall too. The fear and the finality that you could lose your "eternal life". The isolation, passive aggressiveness, marking, bullying tactics, veiled threats, being harrassed by the elders (the kingdom hall police) for not turning in field service reports. Embarrassing situations, shame and humiliation. And all of this is if you're lucky enough not to get molested.
Lies all lies I've missed to turn in my reports a lot no elders harassed me 🤣 The just encourage me to be active that's all Dunno the type of jw you liers attend but it's definitely not the one I know Stop lying you all just left because you want to be free and do what ever you want But I've tasted that freedom here in the university And I've seen what the Bible said is true The Bible principles are not chains The are shields Protecting us for the emotional trauma of this world
Left three years ago it is a cult realized my Lord and savior Christ Jesus was always with me he let me see the orgination for its lies and false dates
I was not made welcome at a local congregation due to an elaborated and ultimately false police post on Facebook. Image is everything because they have no substance. I searched my heart and received angelic support so I resigned! Jesus is a personal Savior, he cares not for large organizations!
I disassociated (resigned) from that religion in 1988. I lost my entire family as they still shun me till this day. I never regretted my decision. I find it amusing that the family is starting to sniff around now they realized I have money.
Man I’m exmormon and I couldn’t believe that jdubs have to shun ex members! Even if it’s your family! I really feel bad for you! Stay strong stay out of crazy religion
like myself now..im 27 left he JW when i was 15 Got shunned by everybody including my own family .. i cant explain what it has done to me as a person... had lots of professional help.. since a year started reading the bible again( NOT THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION) And its healing the deepest wounds. after 12 years i can feel my heart again and starting to love again. so happy that it was still alive deep inside ....Greets from the Netherlands and keep strong People that have been shunned. i know how dark it can be ... Godbless
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When I was a JW, I had nightmares, periods of suicidal thoughts and tendencies and a constant fear of anything outside the religion. Now that I'm disassociated I'm better. There is a guilt in me that digs it's claws through my mind. Even now, years later they have this hold. It's hard to leave completely. It's hard to leave at all. But is possible. Just remember that. It is possible!
im studying with Jehovah witnesses and they dont ask me for money like the catholic church so I was in. All i do is give my opinion on the scripture we read. And what was amazing I went to a trip to boston and JW opened their home to me when I needed a place to sleep cause I got to boston later than I thought and tired and they helped me. So I appreciate the love... I see nothing wrong with getting love and care from a group of people.
The Bible warns about Jehovah's Witnesses, it warns of false teachers, false prophets, those that add to or go beyond scripture. *JWs claim to follow the Bible and yet* no Bible I know of says anything about 1799,1844,1874,1879, 1914,1915, 1918, 1919, 1925, 1936, 1940's, 1950's, 1960's,1975, 2000,ect. JWs call their literature "food FROM God", repeat "food FROM God" yet it has these false dates. *"Jehovah's Witnesses, ... have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4 *Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* - Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower "Does this admission of making mistakes stamp them [Jehovah's Witnesses] as false prophets? Not at all, for false prophets do not admit to making mistakes." Watchtower, Nov. 1, 1972, page 644 - in brackets added Admitting to making false prophecies doesn't magically change them, they are still Bible defined false prophecies.(Deut 18:20-22) Very poor reasoning, probably why JWs "suggested dates" and went beyond scripture. Food from God? I guess you could say that even JW religion says they are false given their admission to false teachings that they have carried worldwide! Those are man's dates or they come from Satan!
@@wylolister3218 girlfriend ...the bible is a metaphor... with good standards to live by... the end of the world comes to all of us at different times and it may be around the corner for some... especially today, with all that has happened this year. Just gotta chill... and take each day as its your last... but also plan for the future. I know it seems hard to think of both topics at the same time...but taking it day by day and writing things out on an EXCEL sheet helps me clearly state my to do list, for today, tomorrow and in 1 -5 years. Plan plan plan. but also say I love you everyday. thats my motto. :) stay blessed because I am. :)
The Love is purely conditional. As long as you go along with them and you follow their rules, they might show you love. If you don't make progress in your bible studies and come to baptism, they'll drop you and remove the love just as fast. And don't make any friends there because if you ever change your mind about the religion, you'll be left completely alone. They will not be allowed to talk to you ever again. Is that love?? Use your powers of critical thinking. You can do better. You can get real unconditional Love outside of this inhumane religion.
@@ms.g4401 okay , it is alot of work. I guess the cross was too heavy. Or the torture stake as they say. .... we all must carry one , pick up a different type but make sure it's made of real wood. I'm not a jehovah's witness but I did grow up in that religion, I never got baptized into it.
@@panducation4119 It wasn't the cross to bear, it was the false doctrines and the expectation to spread the false doctrines. At that time I had young children and I couldn't allow them to enter this evil organization.
I was kicked out of our home at age 15, my older brother at 16 after not going to the kingdom hall any longer. No attempt from parents to have us come back home. Now im 56 and still no contact from anyone I grew up with or my parent's. Never taught how to fish,play ball, or even how to communicate with another human being if it didn't pertain to the religion. It has been a huge struggle to grow up in normal day to day activities as a youngster. After having my own family I could never understand how anyone could do that to a child, and that it is still allowed.
Wow that is incredibly sad. How COULD anyone do that to their own flesh and blood?? And in a way, their actions essentially 'killed' their own children!
You are loved by God, he asks us to love each other, even to love our enemies, what you experienced was wrong, but forgive them and teach your children what God really intends, to love each other as Christ loved us, unconditionally. JW are unfortunately blind and indoctrinated and fear driven, not God's heart for us, be strong and know God set you free!
Liv 4ever if your comment is true can you leave without losing your family and friends. If you choose to leave this false religion you still lose your family and friends. Otherwise they force you to obey all watchtowers false teachings... Or you have to give up your family and friends to get out of watchtowers false teaching. There is no justice in love only cruelty and hatred It’s program in Jehovah’s Witnesses minds and hearts.
@@ucanliv4ever Wake up! JWs are a cult. I recommend that you do research about their failed predictions, child abuse cases such as the Australian Royal Commission, and their hypocrisy such as being an NGO of the UN.
I was a witness at one time I left because I got sick of hearing Armageddon is right around the corner and that was over thirty years ago. So many false prophesies 1914, 1925, 1975 just to name a few. For all the people that are defending this religion when is Armageddon going to get here????? No need for a higher education I remember Elders telling 17, 18 olds they may not see their graduation day. Put all of your time into serving Jehovah. Seniors in high school back when I went are now in their late 40s.
Yes. I am a thinker. Their bent corporate style operations, forcing their kids to wear black suit dress on weekends, carting their own brief cases, when all they wanted to play ball with the neighbours. That is if they had the freedom to make friends with them. That is a sin. Jesus said “come to me as little children”; not friggin robots spreading Satan’s poison.
My wife and her family was raised Jehovah's witnesses. The things I took for granted growing up like birthdays, holidays, christmas,etc she never experienced until she left th religion in her last 20s. Basically didn't celebrate her birthday until she was 32 years old. Crazy religion.
If you are baptized as a teenager and then later realize as a mature adult that you no longer believe The Watchtower is "God's true religion", you will be kicked out and shunned for life.
66% of those raised or born as a Jw leave. a very good number of my friends during my young manhood were disfellowshipped , disassociated themselves or faded. I was a JW for 25 years I've been out for 17. there are about 20 million X JWs. My friend attempted suicide because he was shunned by his jw blood relatives, thank God he didn't die
Jehovah Loves your honestly lost it's not forever they still have a chance to come back Jehovah wants more people to be saved he welcomes everyone it's all depending on the person don't confuse others just like the media
I state the cold, hard solid facts. So people wont get fooled and fall into a trap. I'm not like CNN and the fake news. You don't have to be a JW to receive salvation from Jehovah.
I was disfellowshipped 23 years ago and I'm labeled an apostate even though I love the Lord and his son Jesus Christ I'm still labeled an apostate by Jehovah's Witnesses and I can't speak to my family and have not spoken to them in many many years not because I don't want to because they don't talk to me or will absolutely refuse to have anything to do with me it's very sad depressing and as everybody says it is not love how can I mother never speak to her own son for your sisters I pray that they wake up and see the truth God's truth not some man-made false religion
I was 15 about to be 16 and decided to let my mom know on Sunday morning to buzz off & leave me alone , in a house of 8 persons , you could hear a pin drop when I finish spoken , my other family members treated me with respect that same sec, it was classic ...
@@levirosehindoy1483 What are you doing on this website you should be afraid someone will see you and tell on you then you will be disfellowshipped. You are not supposed to be using the internet. It is evil😁
My parents aren't jehovas witnesses but they've instilled into me the fear of the rapture. I still wake up imagining them gone and the world ending. It's a terrible thing to do to a child because when you internalise it into them that much you are literally scarring them for life. I don't even believe in god anymore and yet I still have those nightmares.
Sorry Brenda but books written by anonymous men will never be compelling evidence of non physics based events to those that operate on logic and reason. The only place Armageddon may occur is in your dreams.
So I take it both of you, in becoming 'true Christians', were 'on the ball' and steered well ckear of the Roman Catholic Cult, the Mormons, The SDA's, the Scientologists, the Christian Scientists, the Charismatics, the Hillsongs, the Brian Houstons, the Kenneth Copelands, the Joel Osteens, and all the rest of the cults and TV charlatans and their hokus-pokus, 'holy-holy-holy Praise the Kord' Clap-Trap?!
I knew about leaving before a Pledge of Allegiance or singing of the National Anthem - but this is new to me... maybe it was viewed as "interfaith" ? - look up rebaptism at Wiki - only Mormons and JWs reject all prior baptisms or declaration of Faith in Christ - WT counts New Baptisms or Conversions but ONLY the Publishers get counted after that
What is the lords prayer? They don't use the name of God in the prayer! Why? My father who art in heaven hallow be they name? What name? Jesus is explaining how to pray to his father in heaven!
@I'm Gone look all bibles are twisted like the KJV and maybe your Koran bible. There are 1000's of translations our bible is from the original scrolls translated in the modern English. All I can say is tell the Taliban before they cut the heads off from innocent Christian children on their way to school that it is what Allah wants and Allah needs blood inorder to do gods will! If I had known you were from that crazy group I never would made a positive comment so enjoy it while you can! You use trickery making people think you don't believe in a trinity then turn around and say God and his son Christ jesus are the same. Soon you people will see the rath of God or your Allah as you like to call him but it will be to late to save yourselfs so enjoy the remaining hours you have left! GOD BLESS YOU!
They aren't leaving Jehovah, they are breaking ties with the wackjobs that bear false witness in His name. Come ye out from amongst them and KUDOS to the survivors. Welcome to the best days of your life! 🤗🙏🙌
i am JW and currently fading, i am currently avoiding my family to accomplish the fading process. It is extremely hard that the religion has many strict rules that can control personal and family decisions. Noone is a good witness enough. everyone always criticize everyone inside the congregation and are all hypocrites.
@@eliasrl2878 really, then explain this to me. If JW's dont celebrate christmas because it has Pegan roots, then why do they wear wedding rings when those also have Pegan roots. The JW's are contradictory and so is the bible.
@@PastaWaterIV I think it is as simple as projecting a different image by choosing cult items different than other christian religions. Another divide et impera inside christianism.
I live with a friend whose mom died last month , her daughter and her mom , are Jehovah's witnesses . My friends grew up in the religion . The daughter says her mom is asleep and Jehovah will awaken her when the time comes. I wasn't forced to believe . I am Episcopalian, grew up in that denomination . I believe so different and I don't condemn my friends
Spent 25 years preaching for WTBS. glad I left. Never regretted it. It is scary to leave but knowing in my heart. Mind and soul it is a cult makes me fear less! Education prevents deception. Learn .
Everything is out in the open at the Kingdom Hall, they are all good clean people who love Jehovah, there is no basement with children being abused like the churches, I would expect more from you than to spout off garbage like that and hope you can get back to the best Bible education on earth if your really who you say you are.
Jehovah's Wickednesses more like. Children who grow up in that religion end up with a lot of social issues especially once they leave because then they have no friends once they are shunned.
hey don't call them jehovah wickedness you're only going to make it worst. remember that the majority of witnesses you see are victims, calling them names would only reinforce the brain washing.
Kenny kohen you are right. My issues are not with the individuals of the organization, just the organization itself. A lot of JW truly are good, well meaning people.
I was a witness for over 20 years. Comments made by active witnessess are from those that are still blind. You are definetly treated as though you are dead if you are disfellowshipped. Thats how its taught. It is all based on fear. Kind compassionate people led by a bunch of self serving, lieing, self righteous haughty men. Same men that taught the congregations to view women as lesser ones. A horrible, depressing fearful way of life. I thank the God of Love everyday that i woke up from the nightmare.
lisa murry I really do feel sorry for most of you calling Jehovahs witnesses all sorts of names may God help you talking about being a witness for 20 years it doesn't seem to me you were a witness for even a day. Look I have been a witness since 2006 from 2012 I became inactive enganged myself with every thing this world could offer and now am on my kneels I want to go back as soon as possible this world has nothing to offer and be very careful when u try to spoil imagine of people who actually living by what they say yes it's difficult being a Jehovah's Witness only when you sill have eyes for worldly things so go and enjoy what you want to enjoy my only wish is to return back to the house of Jehovah my repurchaser
Julie Bolduc you funny because you speak so much about nothing I have been in a cult before I have literally done anything you can thing of so it's up to you to figure out who is lost if you call a people who try there best to live by integrity and high moral standard a cult and you call me lost it's already a tradition in the world now to praise the weak who stand for nothing and fight the people who are trying to do good anyway it's not new even Jesus was killed so enjoy whatever you were unable to do the time you claimed to be a witness since you are woke now just please let me be lost
@@baronkelvinwoome3835 Jesus taught FREEDOM from religious bondage; not subjugation to a different type of bondage. All religion is bondage. Christ = freedom. "But now after you have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage?" - Gal 4:9
Yeah that fear of the end. I had that same thought, that I’d never make it through high school. I remember when 9/11 happened, my dad said “maybe this is the beginning” my words were “noooo I’ll never get to turn 16” at that my dad rolled his eyes and didn’t like my response. I had many years of fear but here I am... 32 and we’re all still here. It’s pathetic and sad. My dad and brother as well as that whole side of my family are still so wrapped up into it and fear/long for Armageddon so bad.
The depression was birth a my mother is a lifer. I was born in it. Don't know who I am. I was never allowed to be me. I new as a child I'd never be happy. I was always in the shadows. Wasn't allowed to dream.
"Smoking, drinking.." half my family are ex-JW and they drank a lot, together, at their parties. The Bible doesn't forbid alcohol and they took this to heart haha.
I left that religion and never been happier I honestly see the reason of anxiety depression loneliness sadness and so on was because of them now I can say I am happy :) not lie to me to be happy
Unfortunately the jehovah name is a name for the supposed god freemasons worship called jahbulon. Jehovah means means jeh or jah means God and hovah means calamity or destruction. That's why majority are so depressed, commits suicide etc etc. It's because they is a higher demonic force the male governing bodies may be worshipping.
You know I heard that when I was there but I never believed it I thought it was just a hate comment from outside now that you mention it I’ll look it up deeply
@@ivanovicsharapova2402 I was a witness as well, but I wasn't trapped stopped when I was 9. Family still goes but ik glad I'm not. Some are just paedophiles for some reason idk why.
I was because of my family till I tried suicide and survived after that incident I left them and at the same time I lost my family but trust me I have never experienced God in my life as great and close as I do now thanks to Him I am happy now
@@ivanovicsharapova2402 awww I'm sorry to hear that truly. Sigh is sad because I heard someone in my families congregation killed themselves as well. I'm glad u lived it wasn't your time, and I think the religion is based on the members feeling as if they want to end their lives. Also I've realised they have a lot of demon dreams. Just live you life, love your self to the max, help those in need if u can. Because I feel every religion is designed to push us away from the divine.
I left a long time ago and am not afraid of dying as we all will go sometime why worry about it if you dont believe any longer in what they preach enjoy what life you have and dont look back, I left at 16 and left home and am now 76 no regrets
I disassociated myself for many years. In 2016 my brother died. Four months later, my witness mother shunned me if I didn't become a witness again. I haven't spoke to or seen her in three years.
Jehovah aka Jupiter is a pagan god. Abraham, his two wives, and two sons and the two Jerusalems are allegories (Galatians 4) for summer (sun above equator) and winter (sun below equator). Abraham = summer and Lot = winter. ... and Jesus only spoke in parables (allegories). God and Satan are metaphors for "summer" and "winter." God = season of crop production (Jupiter Olympus) and Satan = season of crop consumption (Jupiter Stygius). Jupiter Olympus (a time to laugh) gives and Jupiter Stygius (a time to cry) takes away.
La colpa non è di tua madre ,E La WATCHTOWER che si è imposesata della sua mente ,Dio e Gesù uniscono e perdonono la WATCHTOWER no divide le famiglie gli amici i fratelli e produce sofferenze atroci ( CARATTERISTICHE DI SATANA ) MESSAGGIO DA L 'ITALIA BUONA VITA .
It remains fact that if you don't accept Jesus Christ now later you will not survive in God's Wrath. Jesus loves you and died on the cross for you sins. He wants you to escape this however there is only one way out.............John 14:6
@Power Gut Beast quite the opposite. I'll never go back. I have different views and beliefs now, the anxiety stems from the years of mental torture that comes from this cult. Living in fear of dying at Armageddon because you got a birthday present once or not attending a meeting. If that is what a loving god does to it's creation, I want nothing to do with it.
I was once fired from a job as a member of management. My colleagues...all of them were told not to talk to me. I couldn’t plead my case. The decision had been made. Man! I tried. I knew though that it is to protect the company and its employees from potential negative influences that may come about by the person fired. I get that. Since then, most of my career positions have had similarities. I’ve seen and gone through what all that can do. Organizations in different various fields have this system and its to again, protect against anything that might disrupt their order of business or system. Even families themselves do this when a member of the family does things differently that is not in accordance to how the family in itself has been. Y’all know all this said is true. Everyone here has “shunned” someone, something from their life because YOU as a personal organization have not agreed with or felt right with! JW’s don’t “shun” when the person is working with the organization just as a job or a family member will not “shun” a person if they are in accord with what they agreed to do. The minute you start doing different....well YOU decided to do so! YOU decided to not follow whatever it is! So you decided NOT TO BE PART OF THAT GROUP, ORGANIZATION, JOB ETC...... none of us can be employed at Walmart but walk into work with a home depot shirt and start professing their way of business and expect to be working their much longer! Yes it’s your right but it doesn’t work with their system. I guarantee you that if OUR jobs were on the line for YOUR misrepresentation, none of us would support you. Same here and you all know it. Next time you go into your precious jobs, carriers etc....take something different to their way of doing business that’s off from the organizations doctrine or manual...see how long you’ll be employed. JEHOVAH’s witness have it right! Best organization I’ve been involved with! They have helped me and my family through thick and thin and I’ve never been happier! I had to make some adjustments in my life that were Not healthy, YES gave up several things but glad I did and will continue. I’ve been to other religions and they all bend their decrees, doctrines, way of thinking in order to support the person doing wrong! Yes wrong! Jehovah DOESNT CHANGE! At least they stick to their bible proven beliefs and put GOD 1st the best they can in an imperfect world along with imperfect men and women! If you fall for that type of news then YOU are the one being misled! I for one am glad my mind was washed. Isn’t that how things become CLEAN?? What do you get when you mix all colors into one??......DARKNESS!
I was a JW for 20 years......I am now a born again Christian and have a relationship with my lord and savior. I am very thankful and happy to know the truth. The truth is JESUS. and everything that he is saying about JW is true. My family and I have gone through the same. None of the JW will talk to us. But JESUS is awesome he is alive and very real. We are happy now. Thank you JESUS....We have a big testimony to much to type. But we are very thankful and blessed. Blessings to you all. 🤗
So, if we (and I'm sure you have) question their 'non acceptance' of non JW's ; isn't that essentially going against the 'code of human love, compassion, and Jesus' mandate to 'love everyone'?
ROSE Amen. I wish you well at leaving this cult ridden business. I have a daughter in it and she will not speak to me. I was in it 32 years and I told her everything she did not know about them. But her mind is made up. I have deleted her from my will. She stands to lose 100 thousand dollars. I have 4 other children but they are not in this cult.
20 years!!!!!!!! And your never heard about Jesus? You lie like all the rest of the ones who were disfollowshiped then have to make up something to make themselves look good! Just remember the end is coming and you will find out what the truth is but it will be too late for you. Throwing away eternal life over something like that shows that the truth never was intended for you In the first place!
So you went from one cult to another... god knows no religions. Religions arent needed to be close to god. Religions only serve the man that created them
@@vanessativa2418 that's what I tell people that that there is no such thing as a religion. It is simply a way of living your life based on bible principles and nothing else! God used man to write down his thoughts so we can have a good life but man has twisted everything around so bad since the first century which is why there are so many religions today! People have to choose what they want because it means life or death!
I left the JW’s when I was 17 and haven’t seen my parents or my sisters in over 35 years. Best decision I ever made. The abuse I suffered at the hands of my so called parents was horrific and their elders upheld their actions and told them that it was okay to beat a child just short of death and still be right in the eyes of their god. I cursed their god and told the elders that if I ever caught them out that I’d do the same to them.
I myself, like many others suffered or may still be suffering. I encourage you all to keep going. So much more life to live. For me, my outlet was music. I wrote a song called "Hollow Words" where I express the betrayal and devastation. It was a enduring process but I'm in a better place today. I applaud groups like these that are of great support to former JWs. Keep up the good work!
@@wallpello_1534 trust me I know my friend, if anything scientology adopted some of the witnesses practices...I know all about that light and it ain't getting brighter🤣🤣🤣
@@drakenpage6776 I've relieved myself of many responsibility's I had, I had a talk last night I turned down, trust me I know. I had to fade but I can't disappear right now.
Good luck with holding out until then. I was dragged to Kingdom Halls from 11 to 18 and never came to think of it as the Truth. Leaving home felt the fulfilment of my life's ambitions. Make sure you have friends on the outside. Doing well enough at school/college to get a job which will enable you to survive is probably going to be important. Put your homework before enforced bible study. Work out your exit plans, trying to maintain the best realizable relationshipos with the family members that matter.
Hey kid ! Does not the LORD OF HOSTS , AND JESUS THE DOOR MAN , THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT NOT BREAK DOWN ALL WALLS OF CONTEMPT, PEACE BE ONTO YOU .dive into a kjv bible it will show you the lies.THE HOLY SPIRIT IS DRAWING YOU OUT BECAUSE GOD HAS SENT HIS SPIRIT OF DECERNMENT TO YOU , BE OF GOOD CHEER! we are scattered through out the world.
VALERIE--Hang in there- Just go through the motions. Your parents will kick you out if they find out. When you get where you can go on your own then flee. Your life in it will get worse. I was in it for 32 years. It is a cult going out of business. Good luck
This is 100% true. I am faded for the 2nd time. I left for 12 years but was married to an active JW. She left me and our children and was disfellowshipped. Her daughter(not mine biologically but mine as I raised her since 3 years old into adulthood) would not speak to her. My ex was the one who was pushing my daughter to get baptized young and couldn't talk to her for 5 years due to being disfellowshipped. During our divorce I went back for 4 years. Then at my last attended meeting ever, we were handed a new Bible which was changed. I looked around that assembly hall and didn't see anyone who was truly happy. I never attended another meeting. No one really came looking for me either, even though I had different assignments in the Kingdom Hall. My oldest sister disassociated herself years ago and is doing well in life. My next sister has been disfellowshipped twice, this last time for 20+years. She carries a great deal of pain from the shunning. Losing her mother to cancer and being shunned at the menorial service. Having 3 children that were isolated from the rest of the family but only associated with when my parents would take them to meetings. It's a thoroughly controlling religion and cult. Many more would leave if they didn't have the everlasting death lie held over their head and shunning as a reality. Being used to pay for Kingdom Halls the society then sells and shares none of the profit. Being encouraged to donate to cover expenses of assemblies so the billion dollar corporation doesn't have to pay to recruit and keep you indoctrinated. As a JW you think this is all normal and God's will. You never have time to step back and just analyze it. They control your time and fill it so you can't reflect. There's always the next thing to do for them. I still have family in the cult. I hope they one day can see what is really happening to them. I hope they have the courage to stand up and walk away. There are really good people there. They just are under rules and control they can't cross. They are in bondage 100%. The worst thing is an imprisoned mind.
Disfellowship comes from jehovah god. They follow what he says not what the world does. The rules set up are from jehovah not humans. Trust god not worldly people.
So sad that if someone willingly decides to leave Jehovah or gets disfellowshipped. Then their family and friends aren't allowed to talk to them, if they are still members of the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Danielle Tirpkoff that is very unloving and not how a true Christian of Jesus and Jehovah would behave. I believe that someone is introducing these fanatical evil instruction s into the congregation because a loving God does and would not teach these demonic teaching s of ignoring your fellow loved ones and family members .
Check for yourself. No one forces you to stay. They care a lot. And my dad is disfellowshipped and STILL is able to talk to his family. There are bad congregations which is sad, but true. Why do people assume we are all bad?
My parents dont know how to live outside of the religion. They know that I dont have interest of regularly going to the meetings... but I have an amazing relationship with them and my sister.
I'm Baptist,One Day a while back a friend of mine invited me to attend her church one Sunday Which was a JW Church!So I did,The whole time of thier service I felt uncomfortable!And when I tell you how the church members tried so hard to get me to joined them!I told them outright that I'm Baptist and attend a Baptist church since day one!I never went back to that JW Church,And my so-called friend limited her visit with me, Basically didn't want to have anything to do with me because I didn't join!😟 Right then and thier I knew something was wrong,I could feel it!So yes I can difiently understand people who's wanting to steer clear of those So-called JW😟🙏🏾🙏🏾
At the end when the news presenter states that they contacted the Watchtower for their side of the story and their reply was not needing to get involved with needles debates. They don’t won’t to openly debate what ex members are saying publicly because they know for a fact how many witnesses would leave after hearing Both! Sides of the story on the news every day for weeks, possibly months.
Anyone can leave at any time with no pressure. If someone decides to throw themselves overboard from a ship in a storm wouldn't everybody on board try to prevent it?.
@@allanmiller6897 with no pressure? Except they will lose all contact with thier friends and family, if they are teenager or young adult they havent had any training or education to handle the real world on thier own and have no social and financial structure, and they are talked about as vermin behind thier back by the people that once claimed to love them. That's just a small amount of the pressure they face.
Everyone who knows the jw cult practices knows that group leverages isolating people from the ‘outside world’ so that their weapon of shunning will bite the hardest and serve to control people. They are a destructive doomsday cult.
I'm frm Philippines I was addict and violent and now I thankful to Jehovah's Witnesses they changed my life and now I am serving to God Jehovah through his son lord Jesus Christ.
Yes Jake, it is better to be a JW than to be an addict and violent. But there are many things you could be that are better than an addict and violent. Unfortunately there are many JW's that are violent and addicts. Some are even elders.
And if u do not partake in the memorial and refuse to do what Jesus said concerning drinking of his blood and eating of his body then u r rejecting Jesus. Took me a while to see that. For God so loved the world not the 144000 it does not say only them it says the world
My life has been better for me since the witnesses found me my heart is in better shape and I have a relationship with Jehovah I see Satan leading others away!!! Sad cause Jesus worried of Satan tricks john spoke of the lion and all the stories support the teachings
The most wonderful thing about Jehovah he gives us free will! Jake don't let anyone shake your faith also remember the Bible is your shield against those who don't believe some like to argue cause they have a different heart condition some can't see the truth cause it hurts them !!! My congregation in Kentucky is very loving supporting group of people who love Jehovah and the brothers and sisters! The elders r modest. and humble plus no one stands above another I have seen a disfellowshipped persons come back to the hall and we're better for it a lot of people can't handle being told they've done something wrong we are all children and need to accept incorrect are wrong course I hope and pray you continue on this narrow path to a life a paradise here on Earth
My aunt would tell me that to love God was to fear him She would also scream(and I mean all out yelling and screaming) in my face pointing at me "YOU WILL FEAR ME, DO NOT BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU" it would get worse when I questioned her about "what does a dog do if the hand that feeds them beats them as well?"
I am disfellowshipped. My parents still talk to me, but my grandmother has decided not to. It's the people who get carried away with the religion that make everything so strict. Some people are conservative and not liberal minded.
So glad my family has distanced themselves from this. My mom and step dad had been together for years without marriage. My dad had no interest in being jw but my mom did (since her entire family is). This one specific lady who gave my moms studies wanted my parents to marry so mom could join.(since she was living with my step dad unmarried was really looked down on) later on I found out she was trying to separate them. My sister and I were never really a part Of it.We would only go because My mom forced us to go. She would restrict us from stuff if we didn’t go. When my sister was 19 she got pregnant moved in with her boyfriend. This lady found of where my sister lived she would visit her and would even go to my sisters job to try to talk to her about it’s not too late to save herself. They are extremely hypocritical and they gas light you so much if you don’t understand something or question it. One time a boy who was a witness said he saw me skipping school with my boyfriend. My mom freaked out on Me. I was a rebel so obviously my mom didn’t believe me. (I. Had no boyfriend at that time hadn’t skipped that week .the day he saw me I was walking with my friend and her boyfriend to the portals outside the school) think it was at that moment I was knew I didn’t want to be a part of that Anymore
They do to me because I know they diligently study the Bible. They know it very well, they are well trained in any version of the Bible. The problem is the Watchtower and what they do to people, and the kind of inharmonious tactics they use. Also, there are a heck of a lot more books than the Bible. There are a lot more Bibles then just the Bible. I'm more Unitarian in my beliefs but the JW's are stuck and the good people are getting out.
Who are the false teacher today ? Mary Baker Eddy (Christian Science) Charles Taze Russell (Jehovah’s Witnesses) Joseph Smith (Mormonism) Marshall Applegate (Heaven's Gate) Jim Jones (People's Temple) Satan (Satanism) Wicca (Dwight York) L.Ron Hubbard (Scientology) Emmanuel Swedenborg (Swedenborgianism) Francis David (Unitarianism) Bishop Monroe R. Saunders, Sr. (United Church of Jesus Christ) David Berg (Children of God/Family International) Claude "Raël" Vorilhon (Raëlianism) David Koresh (Branch Davidians)
The syntax is very unclear, leading, and confusing. I have studied many different religions and the literature they put out is pathetic. They change their stance on issues often, calling it,'new light'. They don't study the Bible near as much as the literature/brainwashing propaganda, instilling massive fear in the individual which they hope will keep them from studying things themselves without the filter of the leadership.
I'm not sure why there is so much hate towards Jehovah's Witnesses and so many misleading information. I encourage anyone who really wants to know their believes and the reason of their believe, to find out the truth yourself. Don't let no one decide for you what to believe and also don't believe everything you read. Just remember something doesn't who you are, if you are a witness or not or where you are from, if you knowingly tainted Jehovah's name, there is a big chance that God will bring judgement against you. This apply to all religions, does not matter who you believe on.
To most of these ppl on here they are not letting others decide for them they have been through some traumatic event in this religion and need nobody to tell them because it can't change what happened to them . Wonder if they count this as thier field service time too cause that all important time card tells them how good or not your doing spiritually.
you are correct that a person should RESEARCH JW's and any other religion to learn of their beliefs...however, if you are a JW, you are NOT supposed to research anything else or they believe you are showing lack of faith and YOU will be disfellowshipped!
Interesting you suggest that no one should decide for you what to believe, yet a change in that mind set warrants shunning. Freedom to think and act on that as an individual is not tolerated, accept or be rejected that is the rule.
@@carylfortner4083 that not true my bible study teacher has me do all forms of research why do some spout lies about JW research the witnesses not just the bad either they aren't perfect and make mistakes that's where faith comes in Jehovah will make the correction not us and in his time
I was a JW from 1958 (birth) until 1985 and during that time we were NOT supposed to read any other religious or political publications. We could, however, read the Watchtower & Awake magazines which had 'quotes' from other literature....which we were supposed to take as factual. I cannot speak of what they are teaching after 1985, so maybe, like many other things, this has changed. Which leads me to the greatest reason to distance myself from this organization. CHANGE! If this is a religion that the Almighty Creator of the universe has chosen....there should be no reason for change or a light that once was dim but is getting brighter every day! C R A Z Y !
Two friends of mine in Ecuador who were my friends but they never met each other were lets say kick out by their own families cuz one studied the University and became manager's assistant for a company and the other one married a not JW girl. Their families do not talk to them anymore; and another friend of mine was on a so called trial cuz someone saw her drinking. The 3 of them are from the same high school we went to, and i stoped studing with the JW after they knew i was doing so, basically they really opened my eyes to the truth.
They encourage for people not get educated and to suppress their curious and critical mind. They encourage to rather live poorly. Meanwhile some of the founders are multi-millionaires.
I used to study with Jehovah's Witnesses and loved everything that I have learned from the Bible through them and everybody has their own interpretation everything let these people are saying is so in true and they're being so dramatic
Every single thing the people on this video said is exactly how the jw cult operates. You seemingly know so little about the org but based on a personal experience as an outsider- where cult members are trying to get you in - you will label these ppl as exaggerating. Naive and clueless. I’m surprised you didn’t decide to join. Maybe the Scientologists got to you first
In my younger and searching years, I had become associated with JW's for a relatively short time (afew years at most). I was "progressing" well into their clutches until some personal event abruptly drew me away. Luckiest break for me...and the end of my association. I look back now, as a born again Christian and ask myself "how could I have believed such rubbish"? Thank you Lord Jesus.
@@patrickuwuwiteka2339 ----I met a beautiful young lady at my old employers business (a setup by my former workers). She was a Christian and we clicked immediately, dated and married soon after. I have never been happier and more fulfilled.
I attended a congregation in Massachusetts a few years ago for about a few months...more than enough time to become completely convinced that it is a cult..
I lost two good friends to that cult. Of course, they tried to convince me to join, I quickly figured out the same. We haven't spoken in almost 40 years. They are experts at shunning.
Is that how Jesus taught Jesus Christ was very loving not shunning he would help people with love not showing a shunning attitude towards humanity. This shunning comes from Satan . Not from a loving God
Humanity is corrupted.What world do you live in to not know that?Why would a diciple of Christ not shun this corrupted system when anything immoral goes.Jesus said that his diciples would have no part of this world. You can identify true Jehovah's people by their fruits /works.There is no way that a person is a follower of Christ and a lover of this world .So you can stop trying to blend the truth with untruth to make it seem right to suite your thoughts ..Jesus loved everybody and wanted them to repent and change and to know Jehovah.. that's why the Jw are roaming on feet as Jesus did from town to town door to door preaching the same good news while healing and spreading love and peace until this day..So yea they walk in field service it's because they follow Christ footsteps...So many lazy people hate to walk and dispise the Jw'd willpower because they don't have the nerves to preach or want to understand anything moral.
@@candaceloves8199 You are twisting things around; You speak of shunning " this corrupted system", as if it is the same as shunning your fellow man (who might be fallen prey to " this corrupted system"). IT is interesting that you mention that "There is no way that a person is a follower of Christ and a lover of this world" yet is it not recorded in John 3:16 , "For God so loved the world..."? How do we equate these two ideas??
Satan wants people to join his worldly set up & walk in his footsteps.Jesus said no..If your part of the world/following their ways then your not a definite diciple of Christ.If you want further insight on what I'm saying then read the reply I made to the other person's comments.Its the truth.If you deny scripture then I know who your vouching for.
I'm a victim of child abuse, and I too was brought up in this cult and it is really hard to get some of their teachings out of your head such as all bad ppl are soon to be destroyed. I've just found these stories and it really is a rabbit hole, I never thought I'd see so many like me.
I as well used to be Jw. Got disfellowshipped when I was 17, never looked back. It is one thing to believe in GOD but to be pressured to believe and basically disowned for not following their way of life is just crazy.. I now have a family of my own and would never think of treating my kids a certain way bcuz of some religious beliefs, it is not that serious.
1 John chapter 4, verse 20: “If anyone says, “I love God,” and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For the one who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.”
Im a child of a practisingJw, born and raised in it, but left in my mid teens. I figured out when I was young it wasnt for me, and I refused to get baptised because of my beliefs. My mum was disappointed but has not turned her back on me mostly because I never got baptised. She understands my stance and beliefs and still to this day tries to give me magazines and pamphlets to read. I dont celebrate bdays or xmas still, mostly due to how I was raised, but in saying that I am not interested in either anyways. There is no middle ground with this group, you cant just go and attend church when you want, youre either in or out. The constant interferring in personal lives, as well as witnessing public announcements of those being disfellowshiped or stood down during 'congregation meetings' put me off the most. Also seeing people turn their backs on their family members as if they were strangers or worse. The never ending doom and gloom the 'system' is going to end soon and so forth, Armageddon is coming etc. My mother told me when I was 10 the system was ending every year, its now 30 years later and shes still saying it. I could rattle on bout the rubbish I witnessed as a child, but Im sure most ex-jw will know all to well what I mean. I have no ill-will towards witnesses, but I have no desire to re-enter the darkside anytime soon. Id rather be dead forever than live forever in hypocrisy.
Eve M I agree. Your experience was similar to mine. I still talk to family that are apart of the religion and they don’t shun me. We are family and that’s what’s important. I just never wanted to be in involved bc I felt a sense of guilt without having done anything wrong and that didn’t feel right. Plus sometimes when I asked questions I felt like they couldn’t answer certain things bc they seemed to not have one.
While reading God's word (The Bible) I am learning how to take better care of myself, and I find the book is a blessing of continuous education. My only regret is not allowing the JW's teach me long ago. Anyway, I pray that God bless you all and give you peace as he helps me. I love you all.
@@roblloyd8453 None No love at all. If you are an "interested" JW, they will "love bomb" you by greeting you when you attend their congregation the first time. But if you stop going, they will eventually "soft shun" you and label you as bad association. JWs are fake, and the love they're showing you is all conditional.
@@GenXstacker Hey I am talking about the cult here you troll. The JW cult pressures all families to shun their own siblings, relatives, or parents. Stop defending your beliefs. The JW cult protects child abusers, covers up their failed predictions, and even breaks families apart.
One thing religion, politics do to push their agenda is fear. I have faith in God, and I usually take People opinion at face value. I believe God gave us choices to make our own decisions, good or bad it’s on us.
That’s so right and we can see that from the first humans Adam and Eve. Freedom to choose whatever they wanted to do but they happened to choose unwisely. And look where it got us now! 7000 years can go by in a blink of an eye especially when 1000 years to us is only 1 day to god. Go to my channel and click on JW videos you’ll be amazed as to what the bible is really saying about what's going on in this world in the days of the end! (the final countdown)
I am a new student and to be honest the only time I want to be around people is during the Bible studies. I find such peace as all are reading the same page and teaching God's love.
Hey how’s that countdown clock going 3 years later? You sure you know what you’re talking about when the foundation for your foolishness are old books written by anonymous authors? And did I catch that right that tou believe earth is less than 7000 years old? You don’t believe in major developed fields of science but you do believe in anonymously written books? Willful foolishness
I am a Paralegal and a general contractor also was an instructor at a community college when I was disassociated for reasons that were never fully explained to me. It seems that teaching at the college was bad association.Most of the elders that served with me were poorly educated and were poorly paid. My conclusion was that jealousy had something to do with it.
This is a cult! So sad that ppl will disown their family. I know some people involved in this. I pray they get out of it. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life!
I wish I could change from Jehovah's witnesses to a Baptist church, but unfortunately I can't move out, because I'm not doing well financially. My parents tell me so long as I live under their roof I have to serve Jehovah no matter what, unless my parents are not around, then I can change my faith. Otherwise I'm stuck!
@@anniebansraj2109 God is real Jesus is real but your JW teachings are false. Especially the fact you have your own jw bibles. Your leader in a religion should never be man.
Luv the "statement" provided by JW org's spokesman to the journalist at the end. Sounds just like something another cult would say - Scientology! My response to them: "Truth has nothing to fear from critical examination and questioning. Only error does."
And Jesus said " prove all things " as all other relegions the jw ' s reject most sayings of jesus , just like the vatican , jews , and muslims,sooooo! Folks don't read the book let somebody else read it for you ,I mean if your saved, why wouldn't the Holy spirit convict you of you error, or are you the many that Jesus spoke of , "depart from me you workers of inequity"
@@MrGuy-cp1gt we have another believer of the trinity here. People talk about the holly spirit like it's a person well where in the bible does it say what his name is? There is no name since it's not a person but god's invisible active force he uses to complete anything he wants to accomplish. Assuming about the bible won't get anyone anywhere on the road to understanding to soon. Like the word God! Is this a name or a position? Gods name jehovah was removed from the bible by king James of England back in 1500's because he didn't want it in his bible. Removing the author's own name is not good but jehovah would never allow his name to be removed completely which is why it was left in at Psalms 83:18 and three other places. So don't Assume anything until you know the facts!
@@1113hawaii the holy spirit spoke at least twice in the new testament, and the name Jehovah was NEVER in the New testament, check your kingdom interlinear.
@@lisapearson6455 the holly spirit spoke! what is the name of this person? Every person in the bible has a name even God. The name jehovah was in the orginal scriptures of the king James VERSION 7000 times before they removed it as the Catholic's did. They missed removal in couple places like psalms 83:18. Our bible uses the original scriptures with nothing removed because altering the bible to suitable taste is very bad! but just in easy to understand English. That's why christiandom will be destroyed in the battle of Armageddon as revelation refers to this as babalon the great the world of false religion. The bible doesn't lie! People do!
How do you get a Jehovah's Witness to leave you alone? Offer to tell him about your religion or beliefs. They think they're the only true religion on the face of the Earth. They'll won't bother you again. Major cult!
My grandparents converted to JW in the late 70’a when an American JW family moved to Jamaica and told them all about it. I love my grandparents (May they Rest In Peace) but they were very controlling towards their adult children and grandchildren until the day they died and everyone is all jacked up. As for me, I’ve always been the rebel🤷🏽♀️
Aisha you’re looking beautiful and gorgeous at the same time, you sounds like a sweet person to me. I was nice to telling you. People are imperfect but they’re not like Jehovah our God and through his heavenly Son, Jesus Christ. Don’t matter what we have been through but Jehovah will help us through this messes with the new world order that’s not pleasing to Jehovah and through Jesus Christ.
Luke chapter 6, verse 37: “Moreover, stop judging, and you will by no means be judged; and stop condemning, and you will by no means be condemned. Keep on forgiving,* and you will be forgiven.” Chapter 6, verse 37 ~ *Or “releasing.”
Psalms chapter 37, verses 8-9: “Let go of anger and abandon rage; Do not become upset and turn to doing evil.* For evil men will be done away with,” Chapter 37, verse 8 ~ *Or possibly, “Do not become upset for it can only lead to harm.”
@@kentebell9731Jesus is 100% God and 100% man. As a man, Jesus ate, thirsted, slept, wept, prayed to God and died. As God, Jesus rebuked Satan, forgave sin, performed miracles, accepted worship from the people, raised the dead and even raised himself from the dead. John 2:19 Jesus has always been God from all eternity. Christ was crucified because He claimed to be God. Do you deny this?
If a religion keeps you from family at any point in tim, it's not a religion, it's a cult.
It is written: By their fruits you'll know them!!
Yes it is, yes it is, yes it is, hooo yes it is, yeah!
My daughter is a ex Jehovah Witness she said those people are crazy
If you have read the bible you would know that back in the day's of jesus they used disfellowshiping to show and correct the sins in the congregation inorder to steer the sinner onto the right path which is still used today but some just prefer to go there own ways! You just don't want the truth so go the way that makes you happy!
@@1113hawaii no dude Jehovah Witness is a false Doctrine a straight-up Freemason religion demonic religion
was raised from birth in this and disfellowshipped at 16. parents were not allowed to talk to me starting at age 18 and they still don’t. my heart goes out for anyone who wants to get out of this religion but are scared of being shunned by family. i hope you all get out, it gets easier, i promise.
I’m 11 years old and it’s feel like I don’t get freedom so what should I do?
@@Survivorrr wait till you're of age and make your decision then. There are some good things I took away from my past as a JW. Public speaking. Social interactions with strangers. Ability to quickly absorb information and summarise using your own words. I admit, these are all things that have helped me in life, personal and professional.
I tried to run away after I reported abuse at 16 and they hospitalized and drugged me and made it to where I could not testify and called me a delusional bipolar schizophrenic and drugged me on antipsychotics that made me gain over a hundred pounds after an inappropriately treated Traumatic Brain Injury from torture and let my graduate thesis committee take credit for my graduate Fulbright dissertation cotton polyphenol gossypol Microbiology pharmaceutical research proposal without paying or crediting me and set up a conservatorship and had me declared clinically insane and held in Skull and Bones run hospitals that nearly killed me and stopped letting me drive.
@@KristinaTurnerUS sorry to.hear.
2 years later how has life progressed for you now? Do you feel you've been able to begin to heal?
I was abused in this Religion & the ELDERS NEVER EVER PROTECT CHILDREN!!! EVERYTHING THESE PEOPLE ARE SAYING IS TRUE!!!!
Jehovah loves you
@@Suzuha_Amane the bible Jehovah? 😅🤣😂
@@foxiedogitchypaws7141 jehovah is god's name in exodus
False. These are blasphemers. Which the bible tells you will be out there talking bad and more
Children are being Abused in this CULT as we speak!!! Disgusting FALSE religion and all the mindless uncaring selfish FOOLS WHO BELIEVE THE LIES!
My entire family are JW's including my oldest son 48 years old whom has not spoken to me since he was 18 years old. My mother didn't speak to me for 20 years, my sister I saw her on her wedding day when she was 20 and saw her again at the age of 52 years old. My brothers I wouldn't recognize them if I see them on the street. I'm a Christian and pray for my family every night. It has been an extremely painful experience not having my family but after 20 years of psychotherapy, I finally surrender and gave it to the Lord and he has healed my heart. I'm extremely at peace....finally.
Laura Acosta, your not alone. A lot of us out there just like you. Maybe one day your family will put family first🦊🤗
"Surrendered and gave it to the lord". I think that's something I need to do. I'm praying my mom sees the truth also
I used to be a witness as a kid and I was constantly depressed, scared, and everyone was forcing the religion on me. Its not fun, stay away
kaeden Luna same. 😞. I left when I was 18.
@@maryannlockwood7806 Me too. I faded when I was 20 when I made research about them. When I found out about their failed predictions, child abuse lawsuits, and hypocrisy such as being a member NGO of the UN in the year 2000.
Why is it hard leaving the organization
If you leave than the people in your congregation will see you as worldly and will shun you and not speak to you, your parents will shun you to if they are witnesses. Since we love our parents we would rather not have them ignore and hate us.
@@handsomesquidward8240 Yes that's why I hate the cult. They are keeping you and your family hostage.
Every single word in this video is true. My ex-JW husband took care of his mother all through her infirmity until her death. She was a JW. His three JW siblings did nothing to help her. When she died, he was shunned at her funeral. Memorial pamphlets were being handed out at the door of the Kingdom Hall, and when the man handing them out recognized my husband, he yanked it away from him. The depth of this cruelty when he was in grief was the most cruel act I have ever witnessed.
for what happened is not right. we humans need the bible to understand what Jehovah and Jesus wants from us. Before I became a Jehovah's Witness my mother took us to several religions and what I saw from an early age is that Jehovah's Witnesses are the most loving peaceful people in the whole entire world. having said that -- we are imperfect --every one is -- even Jehovah's Witnesses. But if we follow the good book--we should aim for what jesus said in john --13:35--. if you read this and you heart moves you read the bible--and you will learn that apostle peter became prejudiced but he was humble enough to take correction and change. ( can you imagined if he would not have changed? do you think the other apostles still accept him with his racist attitude---- lets say true christianity would not be the same.)
:( :(
So sad and cruel, but most of all...evil. No heart, no love and no respect for the woman’s son.
God is a just God and will bless her son’s life.
@@javiermurillo2428 the only book anyone who believes in God and in Christ should read is the Bible, not the millions of books and magazines that are contributed by Jehovah's Witnesses. All you have to do before opening it to read it is to ask the Holy Spirit to guide you for understanding, and then it will seem like you are reading a whole different book, for every truth is going to be revealed to you. I guarantee it, as long as you believe it in your heart.
@@javiermurillo2428 JW IS a cult. Please come to Jesus. He IS God. There is NO other !
People who would shun their own children are atrocious
Just as shocking is this organization will shun people if you don't comply with their rules and regulations they put pressure on people caught up in this organization to deny family and longtime friends and acquaintances who decide to think for themselves and bring up questions about the Jehovah Witness faith
@@sabrinabowden-hughes1730 I have commented on this elsewhere, I once knew somebody who was disfellowshipped, and when I learnt how he was treated, I was shocked and could hardly believe it
To have somebody who walks into the kingdom hall, and cannot even say a courteous "morning sabrina" and to be COMPLETELY BANNED from just saying "hello Keith", even if nothing else, then if I was the disfellowshipped one, and you was a baptised witness, run the risk of being disfellowshipped and shunned for just being polite? - then no, that's not for me, I've had few friends in my life, but to be treated like that? That's not christianity, that's what is called evil beyond belief
That’s my mom for ya
My mom has quit because she found out about this. I feel like I’m finally free from a jail. My mom told my sister and I that they would continuously try to take us away from her when we would go somewhere in groups. My mom never wanted to leave us thankfully but I don’t wanna know what would happen if she let us go. We were scared and had to stay at our house. We have to be cautious whenever we go to the grocery stores and other stuff we need because we might see them. Before quarantine they would come knock on our doors and stay there for ours to see if we would respond. They always text and call us as well. My mom can’t block them because they might contact us and we wouldn’t know it was a member. One time, they stayed when I came home from school. My sister was in middle school and she didn’t come yet. They were just standing there and my mom was gonna call the cops. They left and thankfully my sister didn’t come home yet. It was very scary.
Sorry if I don’t have good English. It’s not my first language.
@@carljohnson6212 your English is good enough for us to understand the message
I'm a 50 y.o. Jehovas witnesses, I knew at 12 it was wrong, I broke away at 16 but luckily my family never turned their back on me. I'm so sorry for those who have.
"The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love." 1 John 4:8
God wants a relationship with us not a religion.
Andrea Rain so true!!!
Also they blaspheme the lord Jesus by saying he is simply the created archangel Michael
the gods are just pretend.
@Paul Goodier no but you have the power to reason
San Tropez and what do you assumed this was written for us? Why your assuming this means we should follow some rules from a religion? How do you even know what’s the right interpretation of this words? How do you even know where the Bible comes from? Who was the apostle Paul? This person was talking or writing to other contemporary people. What makes you think this applies to us? Because reasons.
I was raised in "The Truth" as both my grandparents were Jehovah's Witnesses. My aunt and uncle chose to stop going when they were 16 and my grandmother never made a big deal about it but I was the exception. Because my dad had killed himself, my grandmother once said she was raising me "to fix how she messed up with her other kids" meaning I was FORCED to attend every meeting, bible study, and assembly. I couldn't have friends outside of the organization. And when the abuse my grandmother inflicted on me was brought to light and DFCS got involved, I was sent to live with my biological mother (who wasn't a JW but was equally as abusive as my grandmother). Once I finally fought my way out of that situation and came back to my hometown, I was shunned by all of my family that are still Jehovah's Witnesses. I'm the only one. My aunt and uncles. My cousins. All of the ones that CHOSE to leave still have contact with the family. I'm never thought of. Never spoken of. They don't contact me and on the off chance I see any of them in public they look the other way and pretend I'm not there.
When I was young and still in "The Truth", the way the brothers and sisters of our congregation would get me to be a good witness was to remind me of my dead father and say "Don't you want to be a part of the New System so you can see your dad?"
A couple of years back I got a letter in the mail from my cousins grandmother. It was a nice letter. She reminisced about when my cousin and I were younger and talked about how much joy me coming to spend the night with her and my cousin brought her. It was a fairly long letter and I was smiling by the time I got to the last page. Then... "I wish you would come back to Jehovah. Your children need The Truth. They need Jehovah. Don't you want to save your children's lives?"
I'm in my 30's now and the only family I have are my kids and my husband but that's all I need.
WOW LOVED the courage you've shown in sharing thank you!!!!!
Jehovah loves you
They were so cruel to you,no Christian love at all. I am JW but not too involved,not brain washed. My eyes are open now and I see how corrupted this organization is. Good for me only I and my son are JW. They still do not know What I think,although know me as a person with independent mind. I believe in most doctrines I have learned but I despise Governing body and Organization in general.
@@leadanon127 Then why are you in the truth if you can't stand them.. just wondering.
@@carlamcdaniel9425 because I have friends I dont want to loose them. I do not attend every meeting on Zoom and I do not do field service and do not give donations. Only I and my son are JW in the whole family and he is critical about GB too.
I am a fellow jehova witness and all that these people are saying is very true to it’s word I am in the proces of leaving
Then do it...if you think you have to do it.....
Tons of Blessings on your Journey to Freedom 🍀 it's a process of healing the indoctrination and finding your True Self and your answers within so be patient & take it easy!!!
They told me when I was little that the world was ending that year. It must have been 73 or 74 maybe. I think they miscalculated.
I know this for a fact not to be true. And you're taking what they said and twisting it to fit your lie.
@Ricky Clark Prove it then with reliable evidence
Philly 61 well why don’t you prove it’s true
1975. They have a lot of failed predictions by the way.
@@rickyclark2021 Wake up! Your cult protects child abusers with their two witness rule that is why they lost the Montana Verdict and the Australian Royal Commission. They failed their predictions several times such as 1920 when Rutherford built Beth Sarim. Wake up! You're in a cult!
JESUS SAVES, NOT DENOMINATIONS OR ORGANIZATIONS
THE BLOOD OF JESUS HAS THE SAVING POWER , NO BODY ELSE IN THIS LIFE TIME
Well said
Amen
Jesus just moved in my neighborhood a couple of days ago. His dog is always barking so loud I can’t even sleep.
Taydra Brookshire keeping mocking. You’ll have your judgement soon
Thank you for leaving comments open
I was raised as a Jehovah’s Witness, but I was never baptized into the faith. I grew disenchanted with the religion when my female classmate (whose parents converted to the faith when she was a toddler) was excommunicated. I really began to distance myself from the faith four years later. I moved out of the parental home another four years later.
I'm so grateful that I had the opportunity to raise my Clildren in the truth today they are adults responsible free of useing bad substances I'm a truly proud parent all credit goes to our loving heavenly father jehova God thank you jehova
@@joshuamb9788 But Joshua , you are not allowed to watch clips of worldly people !
@@joshuamb9788 Did you read the comments Joshua ? Did you read about the pain your organisation causes ? It's real horror ! Please read
Congratulation to the reporting of City News Toronto. You were spot on in your report. The three insiders were honest, not exaggerating their experiences and talked from the heart, not with an axe to grind. As someone who went as far as an unbaptised publisher and was active in the organization for several years, I concur with the reporting and experiences.. Great job!
If the ones doesn't like doing the right things and they leave fine but don't make Jehovah witnesses looks bad
It's all to your discretion. God wants you choose him out of love not fear.
Right on!! "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love." - 1John 4:18
Shakaro26er: I refer you to Eccl. 12:13 1-- "The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard: Fear the true GOD and keep HIS commandments, for this is the whole obligation of man." (See also, Matt. 10:28; 2 Cor. 7:1; Eph. 5:21; Phil. 2:12; Heb. 5:7; 1 Pet. 2:17; Rev. 14:7; 19:5).
Heb. 5:7 reads "During his life on earth, CHRIST offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the ONE who was able to save HIM out of death, and he was favorably heard for his Godly fear."
Only perfect love casts out all fear (1 John 4:18). I don't know anyone who is perfect in love, do you?
I would only suggest you get a little more context in what this godly “fear” refers to, maybe studying a little more, not trying to belittle u btw. This is the best way to put it, when one doesn’t want to disappoint their parent, there’s a sense of fear, this is the same fear, it is not a morbid one, the Bible says god is love, so much was done for us to have the hope that we have, there’s not much gain in expanding the ministry how it has and in the multitudes of languages as well other than to get the message across via the Bible, I’ve disbelieved before, several times, and also not cared, but I grew a hunger to know the truth and it was clear after studying what it was and my sadness was b/c I needed to dig just a little deeper, and want to too ofc.
Linda Maddox
FEAR subjects people into forced servitude not willing actions because of LOVE to do things in a happy spirit.
Forced servitude brings on MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS such as HATRED, insecurity, fear of loosing some thing you once or even now held or hold dear to yourself.
This Jehovah may be seen as a psychotic who through his jealousy has lost the plot!!
Thus he isn't worth WORSHIPPING.
Thats sane Christian thinking. The JW cult is "stay with us forever or be horribly murdered by God at judgement day" they are the only "real" Chriistians supposedly.
The Kingdom Hall is a pain factory. Disfellowshipping doesn't just mess up the dissfellowshipped it messes up the people inside the kingdom hall too. The fear and the finality that you could lose your "eternal life". The isolation, passive aggressiveness, marking, bullying tactics, veiled threats, being harrassed by the elders (the kingdom hall police) for not turning in field service reports. Embarrassing situations, shame and humiliation. And all of this is if you're lucky enough not to get molested.
Lies all lies
I've missed to turn in my reports a lot no elders harassed me 🤣
The just encourage me to be active that's all
Dunno the type of jw you liers attend but it's definitely not the one I know
Stop lying you all just left because you want to be free and do what ever you want
But I've tasted that freedom here in the university
And I've seen what the Bible said is true
The Bible principles are not chains
The are shields
Protecting us for the emotional trauma of this world
Left three years ago it is a cult realized my Lord and savior Christ Jesus was always with me he let me see the orgination for its lies and false dates
I was not made welcome at a local congregation due to an elaborated and ultimately false police post on Facebook.
Image is everything because they have no substance. I searched my heart and received angelic support so I resigned!
Jesus is a personal Savior, he cares not for large organizations!
You have not truly freed yourself, you have only exchanged one fallacy for another.
@@Silver77cyn and what is your fallacy, what do you believe to be truth?
@@mauricewilsondaddybob1307 Reality.
@@Silver77cyn and what is your conclusion?
I disassociated (resigned) from that religion in 1988. I lost my entire family as they still shun me till this day. I never regretted my decision. I find it amusing that the family is starting to sniff around now they realized I have money.
Same year as me and still being shunned. I had walked away never disfellowshiped
Oh that sounds awful. BTW can I borrow a few bucks? :D
Man I’m exmormon and I couldn’t believe that jdubs have to shun ex members! Even if it’s your family! I really feel bad for you! Stay strong stay out of crazy religion
@@GenXstacker 😂💵😂💵😂
Tell them to go to their watchtower they’ve shunned you for years. Well done for getting a life.
I think what Alice was experiencing was PTSD and I hope she is finding the courage if she hasn't fully left yet to seek professional help
like myself now..im 27 left he JW when i was 15 Got shunned by everybody including my own family .. i cant explain what it has done to me as a person... had lots of professional help.. since a year started reading the bible again( NOT THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION) And its healing the deepest wounds. after 12 years i can feel my heart again and starting to love again. so happy that it was still alive deep inside ....Greets from the Netherlands and keep strong People that have been shunned. i know how dark it can be ... Godbless
Mats Goossens
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The world is a dark dark place and it is almost like everyone has to bend over backward for the religion.
@@jacquelinesmith-jackson2815 are you some twelve year old?
@Institute Scientist I can see twelve year old but smart I don't think so. She is acting like one toward someone who is pushing 50
@@pearlsbeforeswine1731 The Bible shunned you. Matt. 10:35. A rotten apple destroys all others in a basket.
When I was a JW, I had nightmares, periods of suicidal thoughts and tendencies and a constant fear of anything outside the religion. Now that I'm disassociated I'm better. There is a guilt in me that digs it's claws through my mind. Even now, years later they have this hold. It's hard to leave completely. It's hard to leave at all. But is possible. Just remember that. It is possible!
Did you read Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz? That clears the mind 100%
I hope so.
Self disassociated?
Oh I know 😭🙏🏼
you can leave but you can never escape
im studying with Jehovah witnesses and they dont ask me for money like the catholic church so I was in. All i do is give my opinion on the scripture we read. And what was amazing I went to a trip to boston and JW opened their home to me when I needed a place to sleep cause I got to boston later than I thought and tired and they helped me. So I appreciate the love... I see nothing wrong with getting love and care from a group of people.
The Bible warns about Jehovah's Witnesses, it warns of false teachers, false prophets, those that add to or go beyond scripture. *JWs claim to follow the Bible and yet* no Bible I know of says anything about 1799,1844,1874,1879, 1914,1915, 1918, 1919, 1925, 1936, 1940's, 1950's, 1960's,1975, 2000,ect. JWs call their literature "food FROM God", repeat "food FROM God" yet it has these false dates.
*"Jehovah's Witnesses, ... have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4
*Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* - Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower
"Does this admission of making mistakes stamp them [Jehovah's Witnesses] as false prophets? Not at all, for false prophets do not admit to making mistakes." Watchtower, Nov. 1, 1972, page 644 - in brackets added
Admitting to making false prophecies doesn't magically change them, they are still Bible defined false prophecies.(Deut 18:20-22) Very poor reasoning, probably why JWs "suggested dates" and went beyond scripture. Food from God?
I guess you could say that even JW religion says they are false given their admission to false teachings that they have carried worldwide!
Those are man's dates or they come from Satan!
@@wylolister3218 girlfriend ...the bible is a metaphor... with good standards to live by... the end of the world comes to all of us at different times and it may be around the corner for some... especially today, with all that has happened this year. Just gotta chill... and take each day as its your last... but also plan for the future. I know it seems hard to think of both topics at the same time...but taking it day by day and writing things out on an EXCEL sheet helps me clearly state my to do list, for today, tomorrow and in 1 -5 years. Plan plan plan. but also say I love you everyday. thats my motto. :) stay blessed because I am. :)
The Love is purely conditional. As long as you go along with them and you follow their rules, they might show you love. If you don't make progress in your bible studies and come to baptism, they'll drop you and remove the love just as fast. And don't make any friends there because if you ever change your mind about the religion, you'll be left completely alone. They will not be allowed to talk to you ever again. Is that love?? Use your powers of critical thinking. You can do better. You can get real unconditional Love outside of this inhumane religion.
My life has done a 180° since I faded!
I said the exact same thing!!! Omg !!! Same thing!!!!!
For the better ?
@@panducation4119 Yes , I'm happy, stress free. Feels like a burden has been lifted off of me.
@@ms.g4401 okay , it is alot of work. I guess the cross was too heavy. Or the torture stake as they say. .... we all must carry one , pick up a different type but make sure it's made of real wood. I'm not a jehovah's witness but I did grow up in that religion, I never got baptized into it.
@@panducation4119 It wasn't the cross to bear, it was the false doctrines and the expectation to spread the false doctrines. At that time I had young children and I couldn't allow them to enter this evil organization.
It is a cult. I was born in it. Soon as i turned 21, i ran out and never looked back. Everything in this video is true.
I was kicked out of our home at age 15, my older brother at 16 after not going to the kingdom hall any longer. No attempt from parents to have us come back home. Now im 56 and still no contact from anyone I grew up with or my parent's. Never taught how to fish,play ball, or even how to communicate with another human being if it didn't pertain to the religion. It has been a huge struggle to grow up in normal day to day activities as a youngster. After having my own family I could never understand how anyone could do that to a child, and that it is still allowed.
Todd Kirbh 😮 im glad your free with your own family.
Wow that is incredibly sad. How COULD anyone do that to their own flesh and blood?? And in a way, their actions essentially 'killed' their own children!
You are loved by God, he asks us to love each other, even to love our enemies, what you experienced was wrong, but forgive them and teach your children what God really intends, to love each other as Christ loved us, unconditionally. JW are unfortunately blind and indoctrinated and fear driven, not God's heart for us, be strong and know God set you free!
Todd Kirbh hang in there man.
Jt and Lady Cee
JW : you can enter, but you can't leave.
Wrong
Liv 4ever if your comment is true can you leave without losing your family and friends. If you choose to leave this false religion you still lose your family and friends. Otherwise they force you to obey all watchtowers false teachings... Or you have to give up your family and friends to get out of watchtowers false teaching. There is no justice in love only cruelty and hatred It’s program in Jehovah’s Witnesses minds and hearts.
@@ucanliv4ever Wake up! JWs are a cult. I recommend that you do research about their failed predictions, child abuse cases such as the Australian Royal Commission, and their hypocrisy such as being an NGO of the UN.
Everyone has a free will, Jehovah never held anyone back
@@anniebansraj2109 Yes you do have free will to stay in this false religion. That watchtower created to brainwash Jehovah's witnesses.
I was a witness at one time I left because I got sick of hearing Armageddon is right around the corner and that was over thirty years ago. So many false prophesies 1914, 1925, 1975 just to name a few. For all the people that are defending this religion when is Armageddon going to get here????? No need for a higher education I remember Elders telling 17, 18 olds they may not see their graduation day. Put all of your time into serving Jehovah. Seniors in high school back when I went are now in their late 40s.
Yes. I am a thinker. Their bent corporate style operations, forcing their kids to wear black suit dress on weekends, carting their own brief cases, when all they wanted to play ball with the neighbours. That is if they had the freedom to make friends with them. That is a sin. Jesus said “come to me as little children”; not friggin robots spreading Satan’s poison.
My wife and her family was raised Jehovah's witnesses. The things I took for granted growing up like birthdays, holidays, christmas,etc she never experienced until she left th religion in her last 20s. Basically didn't celebrate her birthday until she was 32 years old. Crazy religion.
now the JW's says they never said the end of the world by 1975. they are liars since I remember them claiming this. it makes them false profit$.
Its coming when ALL areas are preached, the. God will say when he will bring it, patience.
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh do u have any better explanations?
If you are baptized as a teenager and then later realize as a mature adult that you no longer believe The Watchtower is "God's true religion", you will be kicked out and shunned for life.
66% of those raised or born as a Jw leave. a very good number of my friends during my young manhood were disfellowshipped , disassociated themselves or faded. I was a JW for 25 years I've been out for 17. there are about 20 million X JWs. My friend attempted suicide because he was shunned by his jw blood relatives, thank God he didn't die
Jehovah Loves your honestly lost it's not forever they still have a chance to come back Jehovah wants more people to be saved he welcomes everyone it's all depending on the person don't confuse others just like the media
I state the cold, hard solid facts. So people wont get fooled and fall into a trap. I'm not like CNN and the fake news. You don't have to be a JW to receive salvation from Jehovah.
Jehovah Loves Baptized as a teenager? They are now baptizing 9 year old kids! Truly disgusting.
Jesus said "come to me", not come to a religion.
John B and the Disciples never baptized children; only adults.
I used to be a jw. I was born/adopted into it. By 10 I had doubts, by 18 I asked my boss to schedule me for all meeting times.
Hahaha. Smart move
Glad you did not listen to your elders or parents they would had you to quit your job.
Nice!
I was disfellowshipped 23 years ago and I'm labeled an apostate even though I love the Lord and his son Jesus Christ I'm still labeled an apostate by Jehovah's Witnesses and I can't speak to my family and have not spoken to them in many many years not because I don't want to because they don't talk to me or will absolutely refuse to have anything to do with me it's very sad depressing and as everybody says it is not love how can I mother never speak to her own son for your sisters I pray that they wake up and see the truth God's truth not some man-made false religion
I was 15 about to be 16 and decided to let my mom know on Sunday morning to buzz off & leave me alone , in a house of 8 persons , you could hear a pin drop when I finish spoken , my other family members treated me with respect that same sec, it was classic ...
Being disfellowshipped was the best thing that happened to my husband.
Why?? Did it wake him up?
Probably for the congregation as well!
@@1113hawaii My thoughts exactly.
your right if he is immoral life with you:) he deserve to be disfellow and follow satan ..
@@levirosehindoy1483 What are you doing on this website you should be afraid someone will see you and tell on you then you will be disfellowshipped. You are not supposed to be using the internet. It is evil😁
I hated being apart of JW. Now that I'm older I am happier since I left being a JW and attend church.
Good for u :)
@@cqrz348 ok, JWer
Stan Nct are you a jw
Zachary Williams Obviously he IS one of those (?).
ROB LLOYD yup you’re correct
My parents aren't jehovas witnesses but they've instilled into me the fear of the rapture. I still wake up imagining them gone and the world ending. It's a terrible thing to do to a child because when you internalise it into them that much you are literally scarring them for life. I don't even believe in god anymore and yet I still have those nightmares.
This is what have to happened and if you don't like it then that's your choice read revelation
Sorry Brenda but books written by anonymous men will never be compelling evidence of non physics based events to those that operate on logic and reason. The only place Armageddon may occur is in your dreams.
Free from that organization and I became a true Christian....
Same here man. Hope you're doing well
So I take it both of you, in becoming 'true Christians', were 'on the ball' and steered well ckear of the Roman Catholic Cult, the Mormons, The SDA's, the Scientologists, the Christian Scientists, the Charismatics, the Hillsongs, the Brian Houstons, the Kenneth Copelands, the Joel Osteens, and all the rest of the cults and TV charlatans and their hokus-pokus, 'holy-holy-holy Praise the Kord' Clap-Trap?!
Amen, God bless you
@@repentorperish1405 Completely set apart from all religions and denomination. It's me and Christ with God and the holy spirit 🙏
@@mg6775 Same to you 🙏
A Jehovah's witness at my school would leave the classroom when we said The Lord's Prayer.
Go figure.
Y is that
Yup says pretty much enough
I knew about leaving before a Pledge of Allegiance or singing of the National Anthem
- but this is new to me... maybe it was viewed as "interfaith" ?
- look up rebaptism at Wiki - only Mormons and JWs reject all prior baptisms or declaration of Faith in Christ - WT counts New Baptisms or Conversions but ONLY the Publishers get counted after that
What is the lords prayer? They don't use the name of God in the prayer! Why? My father who art in heaven hallow be they name? What name? Jesus is explaining how to pray to his father in heaven!
@I'm Gone look all bibles are twisted like the KJV and maybe your Koran bible. There are 1000's of translations our bible is from the original scrolls translated in the modern English. All I can say is tell the Taliban before they cut the heads off from innocent Christian children on their way to school that it is what Allah wants and Allah needs blood inorder to do gods will! If I had known you were from that crazy group I never would made a positive comment so enjoy it while you can! You use trickery making people think you don't believe in a trinity then turn around and say God and his son Christ jesus are the same. Soon you people will see the rath of God or your Allah as you like to call him but it will be to late to save yourselfs so enjoy the remaining hours you have left! GOD BLESS YOU!
They aren't leaving Jehovah, they are breaking ties with the wackjobs that bear false witness in His name. Come ye out from amongst them and KUDOS to the survivors. Welcome to the best days of your life! 🤗🙏🙌
I agree. There are just bad people that represent JW, as it is with ALL RELIGION.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾🏆✌🏾💯
If everyone was as intelligent as you we wouldn't need religion would we! Good luck and God BLESS!
You the Wakjob honey to comment like that!
i am JW and currently fading, i am currently avoiding my family to accomplish the fading process. It is extremely hard that the religion has many strict rules that can control personal and family decisions. Noone is a good witness enough. everyone always criticize everyone inside the congregation and are all hypocrites.
It’s a destructive cult. Hope you got out
It should NEVER be hard to Love your God. Loving God should not feel like a constant burden.
God is just trying to protect you thats why it eritten in the bible and jehovas witness followw the rules
@@eliasrl2878 really, then explain this to me. If JW's dont celebrate christmas because it has Pegan roots, then why do they wear wedding rings when those also have Pegan roots. The JW's are contradictory and so is the bible.
@@PastaWaterIV I think it is as simple as projecting a different image by choosing cult items different than other christian religions. Another divide et impera inside christianism.
I agree, we have enough personal misgivings without more being foisted upon us.
Loving something that doesn’t exist is impossible.
I live with a friend whose mom died last month , her daughter and her mom , are Jehovah's witnesses . My friends grew up in the religion . The daughter says her mom is asleep and Jehovah will awaken her when the time comes. I wasn't forced to believe . I am Episcopalian, grew up in that denomination . I believe so different and I don't condemn my friends
Spent 25 years preaching for WTBS. glad I left. Never regretted it. It is scary to leave but knowing in my heart. Mind and soul it is a cult makes me fear less! Education prevents deception. Learn .
Scary as in "they would hunt you down.....and what???? Ridiculous
Everything is out in the open at the Kingdom Hall, they are all good clean people who love Jehovah, there is no basement with children being abused like the churches, I would expect more from you than to spout off garbage like that and hope you can get back to the best Bible education on earth if your really who you say you are.
I've done my time. I'm better off now.😀
@@George-nn8ui you said " there is no basement with children being abused like the churches".........what do you mean by that????
@@sheilawilson1046 Ya! If that was going on in any church I've been to, people's heads would have rolled!!
It’s a cult
No is not a cult! Is a dangerous abusive totalitarian satanic madness!
Its not :>
Jehovah's Wickednesses more like. Children who grow up in that religion end up with a lot of social issues especially once they leave because then they have no friends once they are shunned.
Jehovah shall always blessed you for saying what you called us
Haha, that's why all my friends are non-Jehovah's Witnesses.
hey don't call them jehovah wickedness you're only going to make it worst. remember that the majority of witnesses you see are victims, calling them names would only reinforce the brain washing.
Kenny kohen you are right. My issues are not with the individuals of the organization, just the organization itself. A lot of JW truly are good, well meaning people.
@@anniebansraj2109 totally agree
I was a witness for over 20 years. Comments made by active witnessess are from those that are still blind. You are definetly treated as though you are dead if you are disfellowshipped. Thats how its taught. It is all based on fear. Kind compassionate people led by a bunch of self serving, lieing, self righteous haughty men. Same men that taught the congregations to view women as lesser ones. A horrible, depressing fearful way of life. I thank the God of Love everyday that i woke up from the nightmare.
lisa murry I really do feel sorry for most of you calling Jehovahs witnesses all sorts of names may God help you talking about being a witness for 20 years it doesn't seem to me you were a witness for even a day. Look I have been a witness since 2006 from 2012 I became inactive enganged myself with every thing this world could offer and now am on my kneels I want to go back as soon as possible this world has nothing to offer and be very careful when u try to spoil imagine of people who actually living by what they say yes it's difficult being a Jehovah's Witness only when you sill have eyes for worldly things so go and enjoy what you want to enjoy my only wish is to return back to the house of Jehovah my repurchaser
Baron kelvin Woome you are a lost soul and I will pray to the real God for you to not be weak and caught up in a cult again.
Julie Bolduc you funny because you speak so much about nothing I have been in a cult before I have literally done anything you can thing of so it's up to you to figure out who is lost if you call a people who try there best to live by integrity and high moral standard a cult and you call me lost it's already a tradition in the world now to praise the weak who stand for nothing and fight the people who are trying to do good anyway it's not new even Jesus was killed so enjoy whatever you were unable to do the time you claimed to be a witness since you are woke now just please let me be lost
I'm Gone thanks for your kind reply you are totally correct in many ways but just give me one reason why you think this is a false religion
@@baronkelvinwoome3835 Jesus taught FREEDOM from religious bondage; not subjugation to a different type of bondage. All religion is bondage. Christ = freedom.
"But now after you have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage?" - Gal 4:9
Yeah that fear of the end. I had that same thought, that I’d never make it through high school. I remember when 9/11 happened, my dad said “maybe this is the beginning” my words were “noooo I’ll never get to turn 16” at that my dad rolled his eyes and didn’t like my response. I had many years of fear but here I am... 32 and we’re all still here.
It’s pathetic and sad. My dad and brother as well as that whole side of my family are still so wrapped up into it and fear/long for Armageddon so bad.
My dad didn't even have me go to school on 9/11
The depression was birth a my mother is a lifer. I was born in it. Don't know who I am. I was never allowed to be me. I new as a child I'd never be happy. I was always in the shadows. Wasn't allowed to dream.
"Smoking, drinking.." half my family are ex-JW and they drank a lot, together, at their parties. The Bible doesn't forbid alcohol and they took this to heart haha.
@宇宙不思議な It condemns drunkenness, yet at any JW party you go to everyone is sloshed. Bethel, everyone is sloshed. Religious hypocrites.
As ex-JW too I can say that they drinks a lot. Many of its members are alcohol addict.
Because drunkenness is a sin it only depends how much you have.
@LeKpz Z you're just a blind follower of the governing body. Stay deceived boot-licker!
@Gamer Republic why do you have to disrespect the person by calling them an idiot? Is that serving Jah properly?
I left that religion and never been happier I honestly see the reason of anxiety depression loneliness sadness and so on was because of them now I can say I am happy :) not lie to me to be happy
Unfortunately the jehovah name is a name for the supposed god freemasons worship called jahbulon. Jehovah means means jeh or jah means God and hovah means calamity or destruction. That's why majority are so depressed, commits suicide etc etc. It's because they is a higher demonic force the male governing bodies may be worshipping.
You know I heard that when I was there but I never believed it I thought it was just a hate comment from outside now that you mention it I’ll look it up deeply
@@ivanovicsharapova2402 I was a witness as well, but I wasn't trapped stopped when I was 9. Family still goes but ik glad I'm not. Some are just paedophiles for some reason idk why.
I was because of my family till I tried suicide and survived after that incident I left them and at the same time I lost my family but trust me I have never experienced God in my life as great and close as I do now thanks to Him I am happy now
@@ivanovicsharapova2402 awww I'm sorry to hear that truly. Sigh is sad because I heard someone in my families congregation killed themselves as well. I'm glad u lived it wasn't your time, and I think the religion is based on the members feeling as if they want to end their lives. Also I've realised they have a lot of demon dreams. Just live you life, love your self to the max, help those in need if u can. Because I feel every religion is designed to push us away from the divine.
I left a long time ago and am not afraid of dying as we all will go sometime why worry about it if you dont believe any longer in what they preach enjoy what life you have and dont look back, I left at 16 and left home and am now 76 no regrets
I disassociated myself for many years. In 2016 my brother died. Four months later, my witness mother shunned me if I didn't become a witness again. I haven't spoke to or seen her in three years.
Jehovah aka Jupiter is a pagan god.
Abraham, his two wives, and two sons and the two Jerusalems are allegories (Galatians 4) for summer (sun above equator) and winter (sun below equator). Abraham = summer and Lot = winter. ... and Jesus only spoke in parables (allegories).
God and Satan are metaphors for "summer" and "winter." God = season of crop production (Jupiter Olympus) and Satan = season of crop consumption (Jupiter Stygius). Jupiter Olympus (a time to laugh) gives and Jupiter Stygius (a time to cry) takes away.
La colpa non è di tua madre ,E La WATCHTOWER che si è imposesata della sua mente ,Dio e Gesù uniscono e perdonono la WATCHTOWER no divide le famiglie gli amici i fratelli e produce sofferenze atroci ( CARATTERISTICHE DI SATANA ) MESSAGGIO DA L 'ITALIA BUONA VITA .
@@harveywabbit9541 Jehovah is god's name mentioned in Exodus
@@Suzuha_Amane
In the beginning, Zeus/Jupiter and Hera /Juno created Heaven and Earth.
Wow how delusional you are.
even after you get out, you still have the Armageddon anxiety looming
Everyone living right now will be dead before Armageddon.
Stay with Jesus.
It remains fact that if you don't accept Jesus Christ now later you will not survive in God's Wrath. Jesus loves you and died on the cross for you sins. He wants you to escape this however there is only one way out.............John 14:6
@@themananswer-lg2wt fact...Lol
@Power Gut Beast quite the opposite. I'll never go back. I have different views and beliefs now, the anxiety stems from the years of mental torture that comes from this cult. Living in fear of dying at Armageddon because you got a birthday present once or not attending a meeting. If that is what a loving god does to it's creation, I want nothing to do with it.
I was raised as jw left at 16 years old they abandoned me disfellowshipped im still mentally scarred 💔
Stay strong!
I was once fired from a job as a member of management. My colleagues...all of them were told not to talk to me. I couldn’t plead my case. The decision had been made. Man! I tried. I knew though that it is to protect the company and its employees from potential negative influences that may come about by the person fired. I get that. Since then, most of my career positions have had similarities. I’ve seen and gone through what all that can do. Organizations in different various fields have this system and its to again, protect against anything that might disrupt their order of business or system. Even families themselves do this when a member of the family does things differently that is not in accordance to how the family in itself has been. Y’all know all this said is true. Everyone here has “shunned” someone, something from their life because YOU as a personal organization have not agreed with or felt right with! JW’s don’t “shun” when the person is working with the organization just as a job or a family member will not “shun” a person if they are in accord with what they agreed to do. The minute you start doing different....well YOU decided to do so! YOU decided to not follow whatever it is! So you decided NOT TO BE PART OF THAT GROUP, ORGANIZATION, JOB ETC...... none of us can be employed at Walmart but walk into work with a home depot shirt and start professing their way of business and expect to be working their much longer! Yes it’s your right but it doesn’t work with their system. I guarantee you that if OUR jobs were on the line for YOUR misrepresentation, none of us would support you. Same here and you all know it. Next time you go into your precious jobs, carriers etc....take something different to their way of doing business that’s off from the organizations doctrine or manual...see how long you’ll be employed. JEHOVAH’s witness have it right! Best organization I’ve been involved with! They have helped me and my family through thick and thin and I’ve never been happier! I had to make some adjustments in my life that were Not healthy, YES gave up several things but glad I did and will continue. I’ve been to other religions and they all bend their decrees, doctrines, way of thinking in order to support the person doing wrong! Yes wrong! Jehovah DOESNT CHANGE! At least they stick to their bible proven beliefs and put GOD 1st the best they can in an imperfect world along with imperfect men and women!
If you fall for that type of news then YOU are the one being misled! I for one am glad my mind was washed. Isn’t that how things become CLEAN??
What do you get when you mix all colors into one??......DARKNESS!
I was a JW for 20 years......I am now a born again Christian and have a relationship with my lord and savior. I am very thankful and happy to know the truth. The truth is JESUS. and everything that he is saying about JW is true. My family and I have gone through the same. None of the JW will talk to us. But JESUS is awesome he is alive and very real. We are happy now. Thank you JESUS....We have a big testimony to much to type. But we are very thankful and blessed. Blessings to you all. 🤗
So, if we (and I'm sure you have) question their 'non acceptance' of non JW's ; isn't that essentially going against the 'code of human love, compassion, and Jesus' mandate to 'love everyone'?
ROSE Amen. I wish you well at leaving this cult ridden business. I have a daughter in it and she will not speak to me. I was in it 32 years and I told her everything she did not know about them. But her mind is made up. I have deleted her from my will. She stands to lose 100 thousand dollars. I have 4 other children but they are not in this cult.
20 years!!!!!!!! And your never heard about Jesus? You lie like all the rest of the ones who were disfollowshiped then have to make up something to make themselves look good! Just remember the end is coming and you will find out what the truth is but it will be too late for you. Throwing away eternal life over something like that shows that the truth never was intended for you In the first place!
So you went from one cult to another... god knows no religions. Religions arent needed to be close to god. Religions only serve the man that created them
@@vanessativa2418 that's what I tell people that that there is no such thing as a religion. It is simply a way of living your life based on bible principles and nothing else! God used man to write down his thoughts so we can have a good life but man has twisted everything around so bad since the first century which is why there are so many religions today! People have to choose what they want because it means life or death!
I left the JW’s when I was 17 and haven’t seen my parents or my sisters in over 35 years. Best decision I ever made. The abuse I suffered at the hands of my so called parents was horrific and their elders upheld their actions and told them that it was okay to beat a child just short of death and still be right in the eyes of their god. I cursed their god and told the elders that if I ever caught them out that I’d do the same to them.
That’s crazy…
I myself, like many others suffered or may still be suffering. I encourage you all to keep going. So much more life to live. For me, my outlet was music. I wrote a song called "Hollow Words" where I express the betrayal and devastation. It was a enduring process but I'm in a better place today. I applaud groups like these that are of great support to former JWs. Keep up the good work!
Sad part is gives Christianity a bad name.
Everything is better outside of this Doomsday cult once you awake from the indoctrination and you drop the fear and begin your healing journey.
@@user-vg8ez9cu6u christianity is a failed religion, god's true name is Jehovah
@@Suzuha_Amane where does He say His name is Jehovah?
@@user-vg8ez9cu6u in the book of exodus
The terms beliefs and rules sound very similar to Scientology
JW have been around way before scientology, and have been pretty consistent with what is being said, way over hundred years now.
@@tackyzack8693 no they have had lots of new light, look into their old publications
@@wallpello_1534 trust me I know my friend, if anything scientology adopted some of the witnesses practices...I know all about that light and it ain't getting brighter🤣🤣🤣
@@tackyzack8693 I went last Sunday... It's same old same old lol.
@@drakenpage6776 I've relieved myself of many responsibility's I had, I had a talk last night I turned down, trust me I know. I had to fade but I can't disappear right now.
I’m too young and I can’t leave yet but I can’t wait till I do
Good luck with holding out until then. I was dragged to Kingdom Halls from 11 to 18 and never came to think of it as the Truth. Leaving home felt the fulfilment of my life's ambitions. Make sure you have friends on the outside. Doing well enough at school/college to get a job which will enable you to survive is probably going to be important. Put your homework before enforced bible study. Work out your exit plans, trying to maintain the best realizable relationshipos with the family members that matter.
Atleast you know
Hey kid ! Does not the LORD OF HOSTS , AND JESUS THE DOOR MAN , THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT NOT BREAK DOWN ALL WALLS OF CONTEMPT, PEACE BE ONTO YOU .dive into a kjv bible it will show you the lies.THE HOLY SPIRIT IS DRAWING YOU OUT BECAUSE GOD HAS SENT HIS SPIRIT OF DECERNMENT TO YOU , BE OF GOOD CHEER! we are scattered through out the world.
Worry not , for their is no fear in the LORD OF HOSTS, GOD USES THE SMALLEST OF THINGS
VALERIE--Hang in there- Just go through the motions. Your parents will kick you out if they find out. When you get where you can go on your own then flee. Your life in it will get worse. I was in it for 32 years. It is a cult going out of business. Good luck
Grew up as one and hated it but I do know FOR A FACT that Jehovah is the name that's gonna save you.
This is 100% true. I am faded for the 2nd time. I left for 12 years but was married to an active JW. She left me and our children and was disfellowshipped. Her daughter(not mine biologically but mine as I raised her since 3 years old into adulthood) would not speak to her. My ex was the one who was pushing my daughter to get baptized young and couldn't talk to her for 5 years due to being disfellowshipped. During our divorce I went back for 4 years. Then at my last attended meeting ever, we were handed a new Bible which was changed. I looked around that assembly hall and didn't see anyone who was truly happy. I never attended another meeting. No one really came looking for me either, even though I had different assignments in the Kingdom Hall. My oldest sister disassociated herself years ago and is doing well in life. My next sister has been disfellowshipped twice, this last time for 20+years. She carries a great deal of pain from the shunning. Losing her mother to cancer and being shunned at the menorial service. Having 3 children that were isolated from the rest of the family but only associated with when my parents would take them to meetings. It's a thoroughly controlling religion and cult. Many more would leave if they didn't have the everlasting death lie held over their head and shunning as a reality. Being used to pay for Kingdom Halls the society then sells and shares none of the profit. Being encouraged to donate to cover expenses of assemblies so the billion dollar corporation doesn't have to pay to recruit and keep you indoctrinated. As a JW you think this is all normal and God's will. You never have time to step back and just analyze it. They control your time and fill it so you can't reflect. There's always the next thing to do for them. I still have family in the cult. I hope they one day can see what is really happening to them. I hope they have the courage to stand up and walk away. There are really good people there. They just are under rules and control they can't cross. They are in bondage 100%. The worst thing is an imprisoned mind.
Wow..that was an essay
Disfellowship comes from jehovah god. They follow what he says not what the world does. The rules set up are from jehovah not humans. Trust god not worldly people.
So sad that if someone willingly decides to leave Jehovah or gets disfellowshipped. Then their family and friends aren't allowed to talk to them, if they are still members of the Jehovah's Witnesses.
its in the bible everything that they talk about
Mind control
Danielle Tirpkoff that is very unloving and not how a true Christian of Jesus and Jehovah would behave. I believe that someone is introducing these fanatical evil instruction s into the congregation because a loving God does and would not teach these demonic teaching s of ignoring your fellow loved ones and family members .
Diamond Young
Who told you that? Check for yourself everything you hear.
Check for yourself. No one forces you to stay. They care a lot. And my dad is disfellowshipped and STILL is able to talk to his family. There are bad congregations which is sad, but true. Why do people assume we are all bad?
My parents dont know how to live outside of the religion. They know that I dont have interest of regularly going to the meetings... but I have an amazing relationship with them and my sister.
I'm Baptist,One Day a while back a friend of mine invited me to attend her church one Sunday Which was a JW Church!So I did,The whole time of thier service I felt uncomfortable!And when I tell you how the church members tried so hard to get me to joined them!I told them outright that I'm Baptist and attend a Baptist church since day one!I never went back to that JW Church,And my so-called friend limited her visit with me, Basically didn't want to have anything to do with me because I didn't join!😟 Right then and thier I knew something was wrong,I could feel it!So yes I can difiently understand people who's wanting to steer clear of those So-called JW😟🙏🏾🙏🏾
At the end when the news presenter states that they contacted the Watchtower for their side of the story and their reply was not needing to get involved with needles debates. They don’t won’t to openly debate what ex members are saying publicly because they know for a fact how many witnesses would leave after hearing Both! Sides of the story on the news every day for weeks, possibly months.
Anyone can leave at any time with no pressure. If someone decides to throw themselves overboard from a ship in a storm wouldn't everybody on board try to prevent it?.
@@allanmiller6897 with no pressure? Except they will lose all contact with thier friends and family, if they are teenager or young adult they havent had any training or education to handle the real world on thier own and have no social and financial structure, and they are talked about as vermin behind thier back by the people that once claimed to love them. That's just a small amount of the pressure they face.
@@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer exactly.
Everyone who knows the jw cult practices knows that group leverages isolating people from the ‘outside world’ so that their weapon of shunning will bite the hardest and serve to control people.
They are a destructive doomsday cult.
I'm frm Philippines I was addict and violent and now I thankful to Jehovah's Witnesses they changed my life and now I am serving to God Jehovah through his son lord Jesus Christ.
Yes Jake, it is better to be a JW than to be an addict and violent. But there are many things you could be that are better than an addict and violent. Unfortunately there are many JW's that are violent and addicts. Some are even elders.
@Taharkah X not all people are the same just saying
And if u do not partake in the memorial and refuse to do what Jesus said concerning drinking of his blood and eating of his body then u r rejecting Jesus. Took me a while to see that. For God so loved the world not the 144000 it does not say only them it says the world
My life has been better for me since the witnesses found me my heart is in better shape and I have a relationship with Jehovah I see Satan leading others away!!! Sad cause Jesus worried of Satan tricks john spoke of the lion and all the stories support the teachings
The most wonderful thing about Jehovah he gives us free will! Jake don't let anyone shake your faith also remember the Bible is your shield against those who don't believe some like to argue cause they have a different heart condition some can't see the truth cause it hurts them !!! My congregation in Kentucky is very loving supporting group of people who love Jehovah and the brothers and sisters! The elders r modest. and humble plus no one stands above another I have seen a disfellowshipped persons come back to the hall and we're better for it a lot of people can't handle being told they've done something wrong we are all children and need to accept incorrect are wrong course I hope and pray you continue on this narrow path to a life a paradise here on Earth
My aunt would tell me that to love God was to fear him
She would also scream(and I mean all out yelling and screaming) in my face pointing at me "YOU WILL FEAR ME, DO NOT BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU"
it would get worse when I questioned her about "what does a dog do if the hand that feeds them beats them as well?"
pigglet and pooh bear well said.
I am disfellowshipped. My parents still talk to me, but my grandmother has decided not to. It's the people who get carried away with the religion that make everything so strict. Some people are conservative and not liberal minded.
So glad my family has distanced themselves from this. My mom and step dad had been together for years without marriage. My dad had no interest in being jw but my mom did (since her entire family is). This one specific lady who gave my moms studies wanted my parents to marry so mom could join.(since she was living with my step dad unmarried was really looked down on) later on I found out she was trying to separate them. My sister and I were never really a part Of it.We would only go because My mom forced us to go. She would restrict us from stuff if we didn’t go. When my sister was 19 she got pregnant moved in with her boyfriend. This lady found of where my sister lived she would visit her and would even go to my sisters job to try to talk to her about it’s not too late to save herself. They are extremely hypocritical and they gas light you so much if you don’t understand something or question it. One time a boy who was a witness said he saw me skipping school with my boyfriend. My mom freaked out on Me. I was a rebel so obviously my mom didn’t believe me. (I. Had no boyfriend at that time hadn’t skipped that week .the day he saw me I was walking with my friend and her boyfriend to the portals outside the school) think it was at that moment I was knew I didn’t want to be a part of that Anymore
If you or Ur children don't want to be JW the choice is yours
jw stuff never made any sense to me.
drew Read gal 4:26 does this make sense to you.. what about Gen 3:15 or you just don't know the bible
They do to me because I know they diligently study the Bible. They know it very well, they are well trained in any version of the Bible. The problem is the Watchtower and what they do to people, and the kind of inharmonious tactics they use. Also, there are a heck of a lot more books than the Bible. There are a lot more Bibles then just the Bible. I'm more Unitarian in my beliefs but the JW's are stuck and the good people are getting out.
Em Jay read 2 Pet chap 2 false teacher among you.Who are the false teacher today ?
Who are the false teacher today ?
Mary Baker Eddy (Christian Science)
Charles Taze Russell (Jehovah’s Witnesses)
Joseph Smith (Mormonism)
Marshall Applegate (Heaven's Gate)
Jim Jones (People's Temple)
Satan (Satanism)
Wicca (Dwight York)
L.Ron Hubbard (Scientology)
Emmanuel Swedenborg (Swedenborgianism)
Francis David (Unitarianism)
Bishop Monroe R. Saunders, Sr. (United Church of Jesus Christ)
David Berg (Children of God/Family International)
Claude "Raël" Vorilhon (Raëlianism)
David Koresh (Branch Davidians)
The syntax is very unclear, leading, and confusing. I have studied many different religions and the literature they put out is pathetic. They change their stance on issues often, calling it,'new light'. They don't study the Bible near as much as the literature/brainwashing propaganda, instilling massive fear in the individual which they hope will keep them from studying things themselves without the filter of the leadership.
I'm not sure why there is so much hate towards Jehovah's Witnesses and so many misleading information. I encourage anyone who really wants to know their believes and the reason of their believe, to find out the truth yourself. Don't let no one decide for you what to believe and also don't believe everything you read. Just remember something doesn't who you are, if you are a witness or not or where you are from, if you knowingly tainted Jehovah's name, there is a big chance that God will bring judgement against you. This apply to all religions, does not matter who you believe on.
To most of these ppl on here they are not letting others decide for them they have been through some traumatic event in this religion and need nobody to tell them because it can't change what happened to them . Wonder if they count this as thier field service time too cause that all important time card tells them how good or not your doing spiritually.
you are correct that a person should RESEARCH JW's and any other religion to learn of their beliefs...however, if you are a JW, you are NOT supposed to research anything else or they believe you are showing lack of faith and YOU will be disfellowshipped!
Interesting you suggest that no one should decide for you what to believe, yet a change in that mind set warrants shunning. Freedom to think and act on that as an individual is not tolerated, accept or be rejected that is the rule.
@@carylfortner4083 that not true my bible study teacher has me do all forms of research why do some spout lies about JW research the witnesses not just the bad either they aren't perfect and make mistakes that's where faith comes in Jehovah will make the correction not us and in his time
I was a JW from 1958 (birth) until 1985 and during that time we were NOT supposed to read any other religious or political publications. We could, however, read the Watchtower & Awake magazines which had 'quotes' from other literature....which we were supposed to take as factual. I cannot speak of what they are teaching after 1985, so maybe, like many other things, this has changed. Which leads me to the greatest reason to distance myself from this organization. CHANGE! If this is a religion that the Almighty Creator of the universe has chosen....there should be no reason for change or a light that once was dim but is getting brighter every day! C R A Z Y !
Two friends of mine in Ecuador who were my friends but they never met each other were lets say kick out by their own families cuz one studied the University and became manager's assistant for a company and the other one married a not JW girl. Their families do not talk to them anymore; and another friend of mine was on a so called trial cuz someone saw her drinking. The 3 of them are from the same high school we went to, and i stoped studing with the JW after they knew i was doing so, basically they really opened my eyes to the truth.
They encourage for people not get educated and to suppress their curious and critical mind. They encourage to rather live poorly. Meanwhile some of the founders are multi-millionaires.
I used to study with Jehovah's Witnesses and loved everything that I have learned from the Bible through them and everybody has their own interpretation everything let these people are saying is so in true and they're being so dramatic
So you were not one then?
Every single thing the people on this video said is exactly how the jw cult operates. You seemingly know so little about the org but based on a personal experience as an outsider- where cult members are trying to get you in - you will label these ppl as exaggerating.
Naive and clueless. I’m surprised you didn’t decide to join. Maybe the Scientologists got to you first
My heart goes out to these people. It is hard to leave, they are very brave.
In my younger and searching years, I had become associated with JW's for a relatively short time (afew years at most). I was "progressing" well into their clutches until some personal event abruptly drew me away. Luckiest break for me...and the end of my association. I look back now, as a born again Christian and ask myself "how could I have believed such rubbish"? Thank you Lord Jesus.
If not so private, would you like sharing what that personal event that drew you away was?
@@patrickuwuwiteka2339 ----I met a beautiful young lady at my old employers business (a setup by my former workers). She was a Christian and we clicked immediately, dated and married soon after. I have never been happier and more fulfilled.
@@jrzzrj wow, that's a sweet story to hear. May your happiness be forever.
the real rubbish is christianity, Jehovah loves you
I attended a congregation in Massachusetts a few years ago for about a few months...more than enough time to become completely convinced that it is a cult..
I lost two good friends to that cult. Of course, they tried to convince me to join, I quickly figured out the same. We haven't spoken in almost 40 years. They are experts at shunning.
Is that how Jesus taught Jesus Christ was very loving not shunning he would help people with love not showing a shunning attitude towards humanity. This shunning comes from Satan . Not from a loving God
Jimmy Rodas Molestina
Yes! But what did Jesus also say?
What do light and darkness have in common? Read also Matthew 10:32-39. Is Jesus shunning?
Humanity is corrupted.What world do you live in to not know that?Why would a diciple of Christ not shun this corrupted system when anything immoral goes.Jesus said that his diciples would have no part of this world. You can identify true Jehovah's people by their fruits
/works.There is no way that a person is a follower of Christ and a lover of this world .So you can stop trying to blend the truth with untruth to make it seem right to suite your thoughts ..Jesus loved everybody and wanted them to repent and change and to know Jehovah.. that's why the Jw are roaming on feet as Jesus did from town to town door to door preaching the same good news while healing and spreading love and peace until this day..So yea they walk in field service it's because they follow Christ footsteps...So many lazy people hate to walk and dispise the Jw'd willpower because they don't have the nerves to preach or want to understand anything moral.
@@candaceloves8199 You are twisting things around; You speak of shunning " this corrupted system", as if it is the same as shunning your fellow man (who might be fallen prey to " this corrupted system"). IT is interesting that you mention that "There is no way that a person is a follower of Christ and a lover of this world" yet is it not recorded in John 3:16 , "For God so loved the world..."? How do we equate these two ideas??
@@unclesalty7778 How really do you KNOW that you have LIGHT?? And, No. Jesus is not shunning at Matthew 10:32-39.
Satan wants people to join his worldly set up & walk in his footsteps.Jesus said no..If your part of the world/following their ways then your not a definite diciple of Christ.If you want further insight on what I'm saying then read the reply I made to the other person's comments.Its the truth.If you deny scripture then I know who your vouching for.
I'm a victim of child abuse, and I too was brought up in this cult and it is really hard to get some of their teachings out of your head such as all bad ppl are soon to be destroyed. I've just found these stories and it really is a rabbit hole, I never thought I'd see so many like me.
I'm right there with you 🙏🏼😭
I as well used to be Jw. Got disfellowshipped when I was 17, never looked back. It is one thing to believe in GOD but to be pressured to believe and basically disowned for not following their way of life is just crazy.. I now have a family of my own and would never think of treating my kids a certain way bcuz of some religious beliefs, it is not that serious.
1 John 4: 20 " if you cannot love your brother whom you have seen, you cannot be loving God whom you have not seen ".
1 John chapter 4, verse 20: “If anyone says, “I love God,” and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For the one who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.”
Who says?
spiritual brother, dont get it confused.
@@ms.titianabab7133 thats why you should not join the army killing your brother overseas is hypocrisy don't you think
Ironic
Im a child of a practisingJw, born and raised in it, but left in my mid teens. I figured out when I was young it wasnt for me, and I refused to get baptised because of my beliefs. My mum was disappointed but has not turned her back on me mostly because I never got baptised. She understands my stance and beliefs and still to this day tries to give me magazines and pamphlets to read. I dont celebrate bdays or xmas still, mostly due to how I was raised, but in saying that I am not interested in either anyways. There is no middle ground with this group, you cant just go and attend church when you want, youre either in or out. The constant interferring in personal lives, as well as witnessing public announcements of those being disfellowshiped or stood down during 'congregation meetings' put me off the most. Also seeing people turn their backs on their family members as if they were strangers or worse. The never ending doom and gloom the 'system' is going to end soon and so forth, Armageddon is coming etc. My mother told me when I was 10 the system was ending every year, its now 30 years later and shes still saying it. I could rattle on bout the rubbish I witnessed as a child, but Im sure most ex-jw will know all to well what I mean. I have no ill-will towards witnesses, but I have no desire to re-enter the darkside anytime soon. Id rather be dead forever than live forever in hypocrisy.
Eve M I agree. Your experience was similar to mine. I still talk to family that are apart of the religion and they don’t shun me. We are family and that’s what’s important. I just never wanted to be in involved bc I felt a sense of guilt without having done anything wrong and that didn’t feel right. Plus sometimes when I asked questions I felt like they couldn’t answer certain things bc they seemed to not have one.
Ur not Jw if ur not baptise u r just son of jw thats why ur mom still speaking to u .
Facts
My husband says "Apostate and proud". He left in 1992.
While reading God's word (The Bible) I am learning how to take better care of myself, and I find the book is a blessing of continuous education. My only regret is not allowing the JW's teach me long ago. Anyway, I pray that God bless you all and give you peace as he helps me. I love you all.
Because your beliefs are different from the Jehovah's witnesses does not mean your weak at all.
so many broken families.
Yes. JWs break families apart because of their shunning policy. A cult indeed.
TJ Tomalon
Where is the LOVE here? There is none !! TOTALLY UNNATURAL !!
Therefore this God Jehovah must also be UNNATURAL !!
@@roblloyd8453 None No love at all. If you are an "interested" JW, they will "love bomb" you by greeting you when you attend their congregation the first time. But if you stop going, they will eventually "soft shun" you and label you as bad association. JWs are fake, and the love they're showing you is all conditional.
@@sasukeuchiha8648 All love is conditional. Except maybe your mother's.
@@GenXstacker Hey I am talking about the cult here you troll. The JW cult pressures all families to shun their own siblings, relatives, or parents. Stop defending your beliefs. The JW cult protects child abusers, covers up their failed predictions, and even breaks families apart.
One thing religion, politics do to push their agenda is fear. I have faith in God, and I usually take People opinion at face value. I believe God gave us choices to make our own decisions, good or bad it’s on us.
That’s so right and we can see that from the first humans Adam and Eve. Freedom to choose whatever they wanted to do but they happened to choose unwisely. And look where it got us now! 7000 years can go by in a blink of an eye especially when 1000 years to us is only 1 day to god. Go to my channel and click on JW videos you’ll be amazed as to what the bible is really saying about what's going on in this world in the days of the end! (the final countdown)
I am a new student and to be honest the only time I want to be around people is during the Bible studies. I find such peace as all are reading the same page and teaching God's love.
Hey how’s that countdown clock going 3 years later? You sure you know what you’re talking about when the foundation for your foolishness are old books written by anonymous authors?
And did I catch that right that tou believe earth is less than 7000 years old? You don’t believe in major developed fields of science but you do believe in anonymously written books? Willful foolishness
I am a Paralegal and a general contractor also was an instructor at a community college when I was disassociated for reasons that were never fully explained to me. It seems that teaching at the college was bad association.Most of the elders that served with me were poorly educated and were poorly paid. My conclusion was that jealousy had something to do with it.
I know the pain! Thinking of all of you in this hard time.
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This is a cult! So sad that ppl will disown their family. I know some people involved in this. I pray they get out of it. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life!
I got out in 2003. I'm so much happier. They tell you how to run your life in everything
Sad and Woe to you
I wish I could change from Jehovah's witnesses to a Baptist church, but unfortunately I can't move out, because I'm not doing well financially. My parents tell me so long as I live under their roof I have to serve Jehovah no matter what, unless my parents are not around, then I can change my faith. Otherwise I'm stuck!
Why not go a step further and ask yourself if a belief in God is justified in the first place.
my only regret about leaving is all the money I wasted on dress suits and shoes. no use for them now.
You're a lost sheep ,one day when it's too late you're gonna be very sorry but Jehovah is a merciful God ,bless you
@@anniebansraj2109 Not really, I'm now a Hebrew Israelite and you should get ready for slavery. So you better start working out or join a gym Elamite.
@@anniebansraj2109 JWs are a cult. False prophets.
@@anniebansraj2109 God is real Jesus is real but your JW teachings are false. Especially the fact you have your own jw bibles. Your leader in a religion should never be man.
@@anniebansraj2109 are you a Jehovah’s Witness?
Luv the "statement" provided by JW org's spokesman to the journalist at the end. Sounds just like something another cult would say - Scientology! My response to them: "Truth has nothing to fear from critical examination and questioning. Only error does."
1vw4me 1cor6:9 period not me but its what jehovah has said wake up
And Jesus said " prove all things " as all other relegions the jw ' s reject most sayings of jesus , just like the vatican , jews , and muslims,sooooo! Folks don't read the book let somebody else read it for you ,I mean if your saved, why wouldn't the Holy spirit convict you of you error, or are you the many that Jesus spoke of , "depart from me you workers of inequity"
@@MrGuy-cp1gt we have another believer of the trinity here. People talk about the holly spirit like it's a person well where in the bible does it say what his name is? There is no name since it's not a person but god's invisible active force he uses to complete anything he wants to accomplish. Assuming about the bible won't get anyone anywhere on the road to understanding to soon. Like the word God! Is this a name or a position? Gods name jehovah was removed from the bible by king James of England back in 1500's because he didn't want it in his bible. Removing the author's own name is not good but jehovah would never allow his name to be removed completely which is why it was left in at Psalms 83:18 and three other places. So don't Assume anything until you know the facts!
@@1113hawaii the holy spirit spoke at least twice in the new testament, and the name Jehovah was NEVER in the New testament, check your kingdom interlinear.
@@lisapearson6455 the holly spirit spoke! what is the name of this person? Every person in the bible has a name even God. The name jehovah was in the orginal scriptures of the king James VERSION 7000 times before they removed it as the Catholic's did. They missed removal in couple places like psalms 83:18. Our bible uses the original scriptures with nothing removed because altering the bible to suitable taste is very bad! but just in easy to understand English. That's why christiandom will be destroyed in the battle of Armageddon as revelation refers to this as babalon the great the world of false religion. The bible doesn't lie! People do!
Thank you for doing this story. So many victims of this cult need a voice.
uhhh it’s not a cult.... it’s a religion.
It’s not a cult. Strict religious guidelines as are many other religions
How do you get a Jehovah's Witness to leave you alone? Offer to tell him about your religion or beliefs. They think they're the only true religion on the face of the Earth. They'll won't bother you again. Major cult!
Aaron Cooper
Tell them you WORSHIP SATAN.
Tell them you are heathens with no belief in anything but money.
My grandparents converted to JW in the late 70’a when an American JW family moved to Jamaica and told them all about it. I love my grandparents (May they Rest In Peace) but they were very controlling towards their adult children and grandchildren until the day they died and everyone is all jacked up. As for me, I’ve always been the rebel🤷🏽♀️
Aisha you’re looking beautiful and gorgeous at the same time, you sounds like a sweet person to me. I was nice to telling you. People are imperfect but they’re not like Jehovah our God and through his heavenly Son, Jesus Christ. Don’t matter what we have been through but Jehovah will help us through this messes with the new world order that’s not pleasing to Jehovah and through Jesus Christ.
Luke chapter 6, verse 37: “Moreover, stop judging, and you will by no means be judged; and stop condemning, and you will by no means be condemned. Keep on forgiving,* and you will be forgiven.”
Chapter 6, verse 37 ~ *Or “releasing.”
Psalms chapter 37, verses 8-9: “Let go of anger and abandon rage; Do not become upset and turn to doing evil.* For evil men will be done away with,”
Chapter 37, verse 8 ~ *Or possibly, “Do not become upset for it can only lead to harm.”
It’s a parent, grandparents job to lay down the law. Some folks just can’t take it.
Jesus said, "Follow Me."
Yeah right to the funny farm.
Faye Lewis we was also told not to follow man
@@kentebell9731Jesus is 100% God and 100% man. As a man, Jesus ate, thirsted, slept, wept, prayed to God and died.
As God, Jesus rebuked Satan, forgave sin, performed miracles, accepted worship from the people, raised the dead and even raised himself from the dead. John 2:19
Jesus has always been God from all eternity. Christ was crucified because He claimed to be God.
Do you deny this?
This is not a Christian faith Jesus is Catholic over 21years this people come to my door i never trust them
Faye Lewis I deny the whole Bible it was touched by man we was told not to trust
LORD DESTROY IT . STAMP OUT THIS CULT AND UTTERLY DESTROY the MORMON CULT TOO . YOU CAME TO DESTROY the WORKS of the DEVIL. SO DESTROY ! !! AMEN .
MORE BELIEF IN GOD JUST CREATES MORE CULTS AND HORRIBLE BEHAVIOUR. GROW UP AND TAKE RESPONSIBILTY FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR BELIEFS BASED IN REALITY.
AMEN
Praying for them 💓 May God give folx courage and strength ❤️
I relate to the depression. I did not want that for myself and left 28 years ago. The best decsion I ever made.
@Stephany Kaiser -- did you fade or DA? How did you go about rebuilding your social life afterward?