Separatist Leaders Who Lost Everything Because of ONE MISTAKE

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  • čas přidán 16. 01. 2024
  • Sometimes you can be perfect you're entire career and than make one mistake and ruin everything. Such are the high stakes of military command and leadership.
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  • @OptimusMaximusNero
    @OptimusMaximusNero Před 4 měsíci +438

    *Fun fact:* Wat Tambor was first introduced in the 2001 novel "Cloak of Deception", one year before his film debut in "Attack of the Clones". James Luceno had George Lucas' permission to read the script for Episode II while writing the book.

    • @ZKP314
      @ZKP314 Před 4 měsíci +11

      Plot summary pls?

    • @SarastistheSerpent
      @SarastistheSerpent Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@ZKP314it’s a bit complicated. Basically a mercenary working for Darth Maul and Darth Sidious steals precious cargo from a trade federation ship, the trade federation complains to Chancellor Valorum that they can’t defend their ships from pirates, Valorum on the advice of Palpatine organizes a trade summit negotiation between the republic and trade federation, and a terrorist organization representing poor outer rim worlds gets upset that they’re being excluded from the trade summit and try to assassinate chancellor Valorum. They fail the first time, but the same mercenary who robbed the trade federation ship is hired by the terrorist group to do the same thing at the trade summit, the Jedi get involved, try to foil the assassination attempt, but to everyone’s shock, the trade federation droids turn on the directorate of the trade federation and execute them. Nute Gunray then stacks the now vacant directorate with neimoidian sycophants, the Jedi eliminate the terrorist group, and the precious cargo stolen from the trade federation ship at the beginning of the book mysteriously ends up having been invested in Chancellor Valorum’s families companies on Eriadu. He’s changed with corruption and embarrassment and various other crimes, and is stripped of many of his executive powers and disgraced. He insists that he’s been framed and set up, but no one believes him except for his close friend Senator Palpatine.

    • @TeurastajaNexus
      @TeurastajaNexus Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@ZKP314Google it :D

    • @furretthefuzzynoodle3896
      @furretthefuzzynoodle3896 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ZKP314google

    • @PourSomeMapleOnIt1129
      @PourSomeMapleOnIt1129 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ZKP314 Cloak of Deception is told in four parts: Dorvalla, Coruscant, The Outlying Systems, and The Inner Circle.
      Shortly before the Battle of Naboo (32 BBY), Darth Sidious is in the middle of his plans. As Senator Palpatine, he manipulates Supreme Chancellor Valorum and other senators. As the Sith Master, he begins to slowly put the Neimoidians and the Trade Federation in position for his blockade of Naboo.
      A terrorist group known as the Nebula Front threatens the activities of the Trade Federation. They are protesting the actions of the group and will resort to any means necessary to disrupt the Trade Federation. They have hired Captain Arwen Cohl to carry out terrorist acts against their business, including robbing a Trade Federation ship of aurodium ingots, worth billions in orbit of the planet Dorvalla. However, Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi are hot on the trail of the terrorists. Though Cohl escapes, he is forced to crash-land and all but him and two of his crew members, Rella and Boiny, perish. He later flees in his ship, the Hawk-Bat.
      Fearing more trouble, the Trade Federation petitions the Galactic Senate to allow them to increase their number of droid fighters, battle droids, and other defenses. Valorum considers this, but only if he can tax some of the trade routes they hold (on advice from Palpatine). This sparks a debate and a summit on Eriadu is scheduled to be held on the matter.
      Taking extreme measures, the Nebula Front sets plans in motion to assassinate Supreme Chancellor Valorum at the summit to prevent the taxation. Cohl has been hired by a mysterious being known only as Havac. He travels throughout the Outer Rim, hiring several experienced assassins. Unknown to him however, Havac (secretly in league with Darth Sidious) has another plan. Meanwhile, the Jedi Council, along with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, steps in to track down Captain Cohl and the would-be assassins.
      On Eriadu, Cohl dispatches his helpers throughout the capital city. He is ambushed by Havac after realizing the true target. Most of the assassins are captured by the Jedi outside the summit building, but one remains inside. A sniper, he has been given the order to fire at, but miss, Valorum. The Jedi find Cohl and his partner Boiny, who, wounded, agrees to help them. They discover the sniper a second too late, but are surprised when he misses Valorum. Then Cohl remembers the true intent of Havac: to assassinate the Trade Federation Directorate. Cohl tackles Havac and kills him, though he and Boiny are mortally wounded in the attempt. Suddenly, the battle droids draw their blasters, influenced by the single droid present that didn't require a Central Control Computer to act. With a shield activated for safety, the members of the Trade Federation are trapped. The droids kill them all while the crowd watches, stunned. The only survivors were the Neimoidian members, who were away to their ship which had been tampered with. In the ensuing shock, the bill to tax is passed by the Senate. Later, the leading members of the Federation are named. They are all Neimoidians. Darth Sidious later meets Nute Gunray on the bridge of his ship, suggesting they invade Naboo for revenge against Palpatine, who helped pass the bill. Little do they know that it is just part of the Sith Lord's plan for control of the galaxy.

  • @Kubinda12345
    @Kubinda12345 Před 4 měsíci +331

    I really liked Mar Tuuk. When he found out that Anakin was the opposing commander, he immediately checked the CIS' info about Anakin to find out more about him which was really smart.

    • @jamesashcroft8170
      @jamesashcroft8170 Před 4 měsíci +63

      yeah tbh he did quite well and would've won if Anakin didn't literally commit perfidy

    • @ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45
      @ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45 Před 4 měsíci +6

      @jamesashcroft8170 It's not a war crime if there's no laws against it in universe ;)

    • @TylertheCC1010fan
      @TylertheCC1010fan Před 4 měsíci +17

      @@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45 it's not a war crime if you are on the winning side.

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Merica in a nutshell.

    • @aitipsea3909
      @aitipsea3909 Před 4 měsíci +16

      He was honorable enough to let the Republic send resources to the people of Ryloth, he was willing to take the deal before he realized it was a ruse for yet another Anakin War Crime

  • @FastTquick
    @FastTquick Před 4 měsíci +228

    The biggest mistake plenty of these commanders made is to trust Palpatine/Darth Sidious. In Commander Merai’s case, Sidious gave him false information about the cloning facilities’ power generators because Merai was considered a threat to Sidious’ plans for the Clone Wars.

    • @GGBlaster
      @GGBlaster Před 4 měsíci +19

      Sidious really had something against fishy individuals, didn’t he?

    • @smartass0124
      @smartass0124 Před 4 měsíci +10

      Instead of Having resentful guy design their military space stations . Why get Lok Durd From jail

    • @Reoh0z
      @Reoh0z Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@GGBlaster Must have had a force vision about Admiral Ackbar.

    • @-TheMachineGod-
      @-TheMachineGod- Před 4 měsíci +11

      Even Palpatine’s biggest mistake was trusting Palpatine

    • @SirStanleytheStumbler
      @SirStanleytheStumbler Před 4 měsíci +9

      ​@@-TheMachineGod- "your overconfidence is your weakness"

  • @midniteraptor1474
    @midniteraptor1474 Před 4 měsíci +146

    Although I like how funny General Grievous can be, i honestly think that the Separatist Council would make better mustache-twirling villians. I mean think about it, Grievous had actual military experience and was genuinely feared, while Nute Gunray and pals were mainly just big-shot corpos in WAY over their heads. Plus, you got to admit they are kinda funny, especially when they say things like "There goes my promotion..."

    • @bionodroid547
      @bionodroid547 Před 4 měsíci +17

      definitely, plus then you can have a recurring cast that gets humiliated so you can communicate a variety of different morals for the audience, instead of just turning grievous into a slightly more threatening skelethor

  • @personalgoogleaccount9694
    @personalgoogleaccount9694 Před 4 měsíci +210

    Wow, there's no winning for Loathsom.
    If you gun down surrendering enemies, you're a war criminal, and if you accept surrender, you're just going to lose your advantage and become a victim of Jedi war crimes. Loathsom was truly and officer and a gentleman.

    • @MagicalMaster
      @MagicalMaster Před 4 měsíci +39

      No kidding. It really shows that the jedi were not trained for war at all. They were peacekeepers and monks. Not Warriors, not Soldiers, Commanders or Officers. They don't know the methods or the rules or the reason for either.

    • @personalgoogleaccount9694
      @personalgoogleaccount9694 Před 4 měsíci +11

      @@MagicalMaster their arrogance was their downfall. That along with their blind loyalty to the Senate

    • @MagicalMaster
      @MagicalMaster Před 4 měsíci +10

      @@personalgoogleaccount9694 Not even arrogance. Ignorance was the greater sin.

    • @nickcozzie6614
      @nickcozzie6614 Před 4 měsíci +14

      He was also one of the only separatist leaders who didn’t care about money or count dooku a personal war. He truly believed he was fighting for the freedom of the galaxy. Obi fucked him over

    • @aitipsea3909
      @aitipsea3909 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@nickcozzie6614 There were several like him
      Admiral Trench, Governor Tawni Ames, the Geonosians, the Umbarans

  • @pluto5988
    @pluto5988 Před 4 měsíci +96

    Mar Tuuk didn't make a mistake so much as Anakin completely disregarded known laws of war to attack under a flag of surrender. Which a tactical droid on yerbanna knew of by the time of revenge of the sith who knew that Skywalker was bluffng.

    • @user-mn5lk8iw5h
      @user-mn5lk8iw5h Před 4 měsíci +23

      he did it so many times that it becomes a pattern. lol

    • @pluto5988
      @pluto5988 Před 4 měsíci +26

      @@user-mn5lk8iw5h rip the republic troops that genuinely surrendered only to be attacked out of fear of it being a false surrender.

    • @antifurryfoundation55
      @antifurryfoundation55 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Laws of war? You mean of humans, on earth. We have no frame of reference for what the laws of war for the Star Wars galaxy is.

    • @Automaton2337
      @Automaton2337 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@antifurryfoundation55even then it doesn't change the fact that he's not a bad Commander he was a great tactician researched about Anakin Skywalker and even agreed to his little peace treaty and was humble he was a good Commander.

    • @anonymousguy720
      @anonymousguy720 Před 21 dnem

      @@antifurryfoundation55there was a charter of military law in the republic. Some Jedi like mace Windu studied it to best apply it, Anakin looked at the war crime example section and thought it was clearly a playbook.

  • @cameronhermann9400
    @cameronhermann9400 Před 4 měsíci +16

    General Whorm Loathsom’s mistake was he thought he knew who the Jedi were, that they wouldn’t use false surrenders, especially Kenobi. Which is sad since both he and Kenobi seem to be men of honor

  • @angelapolinar5343
    @angelapolinar5343 Před 4 měsíci +20

    Warden Sobeck also made a HUGE error when he denied the assistance of Darth Tyranus in hunting down the Jedi and their forces. Even worse he continued to stall Tyranus even at the behest of his tactical droids in pursuit of his own glory.
    Once the offer was denied, only victory or death would be accepted. If he had accepted Darth Tyranus and his reinforcements, not only would he have had a much better chance of recapturing the Republic escapees, but if the Republic operation *still* succeeded he would not have held the full blame.

  • @calvinmatthews1527
    @calvinmatthews1527 Před 4 měsíci +67

    One of worst things about after the CW, they don't really try to make you sympathize or see how effective they were, well the alien members anyway. Like during the Bad Batch, the only surviving members we got see the genius of CIS were human. Disney really doesn't want to expand on this idea too much.

    • @MajinObama
      @MajinObama Před 4 měsíci +2

      Lord behold they make a game or show where the Protagonist ISN‘T HUMAN! 💀 I think it snows in hell the day they try that. I think I‘ll write a book one day where that’s the case, an alien protagonist… That would be something new for once at least.

    • @ntfoperative9432
      @ntfoperative9432 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@MajinObamawell in squadrons you can play as a Pantoran

    • @ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45
      @ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45 Před 4 měsíci +3

      I mean, it _kinda_ balances out by making the Syndullas protagonists in the Ryloth arc? Still weird though, there definitely should be more sympathetic non-human CIS characters.

    • @HennyESP
      @HennyESP Před měsícem

      Counterpoint: Mina Bonteri was a milf

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um Před 4 měsíci +15

    "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." -- Napoleon Bonaparte

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 Před 4 měsíci +38

    "All according to cake." - Palpatine when manipulating both Republic and CIS probably

    • @Comrade2261
      @Comrade2261 Před 4 měsíci +4

      T4* reference. 🧐

    • @MrDibara
      @MrDibara Před 4 měsíci +1

      (translator's note: "cake" means "keikaku")
      (translator's note #2: "keikaku" means "plan")

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 Před 4 měsíci

      So which modern politician or ruler in our world is most like Palpatine? Opinions open 🙂

    • @MrDibara
      @MrDibara Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@hackman669 Who knows. Maybe none of them? Since not much seems to go according to their plans, _unlike good ol' Palppy here._

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 Před 4 měsíci

      Anyone else notice how our world 🌎 at this time seems like the bad guy Olympics? I mean why does ever major power seem to want to pick a fight right now? World leaders didn't get their coffee or something? Guys we civilians don't want another war. Just normalize relations and make peace. If you want resources trade for it ir buy it.🙄🤔

  • @wedgeantillies66
    @wedgeantillies66 Před 4 měsíci +23

    To be fair to Commander Merai, his mistakes at Kamino was based upon false information, deliberately sent his way by Sidious in order to get him out the way and kill him in said battle. So that he could end the clone wars early in the separatist favour or sway Mon cal to join the separatist war effort.

  • @artorias254
    @artorias254 Před 4 měsíci +14

    Wat tambor sounds like the guy who tries to get you into crypto at a party

  • @kirkhassett8726
    @kirkhassett8726 Před 4 měsíci +18

    Happy 92nd Birthday to the Man, the Actor, the Voice! James Earl Jones!
    Immeasurable contribution to the Star Wars Universe. ❤🎉

  • @luisemoralesfalcon4716
    @luisemoralesfalcon4716 Před 4 měsíci +16

    One mistake is all it takes to topple this whole situation.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 Před 4 měsíci +18

    Separatist Remnants should follow what Zeon did when it comes to rebuilding themselves back post-defeat underneath the Empire's nose.

  • @simonthegun
    @simonthegun Před 4 měsíci +18

    Hell yeah an episode from gen tech and a separatist one as well what did i do to get this lucky

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 Před 4 měsíci +119

    The Separatist Leaders' biggest mistake is trusting General Grievous who told them to go to Mustafar and hide there where Anakin would go for a walk later on.
    They should have disregarded the general who's known for running away and suffering defeats, and split off to continue the war.

    • @luisemoralesfalcon4716
      @luisemoralesfalcon4716 Před 4 měsíci +21

      Or go into hiding themselves.

    • @ZKP314
      @ZKP314 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Anakin 🤝 Alucard
      Enthusiastic Walks (Violence)

    • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
      @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 Před 4 měsíci +15

      It was sidious's idea to send them to mustafar, to be fair.

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@luisemoralesfalcon4716you'd think so but then thatd just been practicing an foreshadowing for a lifetime an nother era later when Anakin/Vader went after Jedi just cuz

    • @4mobius280
      @4mobius280 Před 4 měsíci +3

      You would think he would have been replaced

  • @arthurbriand2175
    @arthurbriand2175 Před 4 měsíci +10

    Is this the first episode in a series? I'm guessing the Imperial officer version will be 3 hours long.

  • @MaraJadeSkky
    @MaraJadeSkky Před 4 měsíci +5

    This channel is one of my all time favorite SW related channels. Thanks, man!

  • @Trailbreaker3966
    @Trailbreaker3966 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Honestly, I’m not sure if you could really blame the last two because they thought the Jedi were gonna surrender, since they are meant to be peacekeepers

    • @jothrax4673
      @jothrax4673 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Yeah, 'mistake' isn't the right term. Especially because perfidy being a war crime is less of an honor thing and more so a this is a bad long term strategic precedent to set. Obi Wan was acting extremely short-sighted and stupid, but CW treats it like it's a brilliant and clever tactic no one has ever thought of before.

    • @Echo-pz5mi
      @Echo-pz5mi Před 9 hodinami

      ​@@jothrax4673 It more than probably hurt the republic in the long run where surrendering forces were just shot on sight

  • @Reoh0z
    @Reoh0z Před 4 měsíci +4

    Just putting it out there, I don't think that Separatist Commanders were too worried about bombing the crap out of their own units in the first place.

  • @SamO45
    @SamO45 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks! Another great episode of Generation Tech!

  • @kirkcavanaugh1493
    @kirkcavanaugh1493 Před 4 měsíci +3

    It is cool that you are even able to come up with so many fresh and interesting topics for your videos, let alone do the research and put it all into a presentation. Good job.

  • @k.f.m6901
    @k.f.m6901 Před 4 měsíci +19

    i think they lost for several mistakes, the first one was to trust Palpatine

    • @SarastistheSerpent
      @SarastistheSerpent Před 4 měsíci +5

      In fairness they did not trust Palpatine lol, and in fact were 100% against him and hated him. They trusted Darth Sidious. None of them (except Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus) knew that Darth Sidious was Palpatine.
      There’s even a scene in the Cloak of Deception novel where Nute Gunray, Rune Haako and Hath Monchar are complaining to Darth Sidious about how awful and obstructive and annoying Senator Palpatine is, and Darth Sidious assures them that there is much more to Palpatine than meets the eye, and that he will not be an issue for the Trade Federation.

    • @MrDibara
      @MrDibara Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@SarastistheSerpent *My God, that's downright savage.* 🤦‍♂️
      Bro was literally playing them right to their faces and they didn't know it.

  • @kirkandrew7853
    @kirkandrew7853 Před 4 měsíci +4

    These videos are so awesome. I'm happy how successful it is for you. Talk about star wars specifics and get paid for it. Seems like a solid life. Keep it up A wing

  • @Reoh0z
    @Reoh0z Před 4 měsíci +5

    Never trust a Jedi surrendering to you, its always a trap and would have been a war crime if this had all not happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

  • @isaackim7675
    @isaackim7675 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Wat Tambor, “The Techno Union has been declared neutral in this war.”
    Twileks, “Blurrg crap! Blurrg crap!”

  • @brianmoyachiuz905
    @brianmoyachiuz905 Před 4 měsíci +3

    They lost to Anakin constant war crimes list, with some help from friends 😂

  • @macwade2755
    @macwade2755 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video! This is Canon for me!

  • @battleboo4u
    @battleboo4u Před 4 měsíci

    I love your vids

  • @DragonJax29
    @DragonJax29 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I'd literally watch you narrate every episode of the Clone Wars I like this format

  • @tammyneal148
    @tammyneal148 Před 4 měsíci

    Love your content however are you going to be making any more high republic videos?

  • @jonmcmurray9510
    @jonmcmurray9510 Před 4 měsíci +2

    You are my favorite stat wars youtube channel. 46 year old stat wars fan here.

    • @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Před 4 měsíci +2

      I know it's a typo, but stat wars made me laugh. I just imagine battles between spreadsheets and data analysts.

  • @tomcopple7633
    @tomcopple7633 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Question, did the Seperatists, and later the Empire, use Jedi war crimes in propaganda? If I was in a propaganda or information position to turn people against the Jedi, I would run with abusing the flag of truce.

  • @HardboiledHarris
    @HardboiledHarris Před 4 měsíci +2

    D. Jackson caught a stray on a SW channel. LMAO

  • @MrHungryMello
    @MrHungryMello Před 4 měsíci +1

    5:26 if you pause and look at the loot being taken in the background. Is that the Ark of the Covenant being taken?😂

    • @stevewright9779
      @stevewright9779 Před 4 měsíci

      Certainly is, well spotted! 😅

    • @MrHungryMello
      @MrHungryMello Před 4 měsíci

      Lol thanks, the second i saw it i doubled back to check😂

  • @imperialhistati2348
    @imperialhistati2348 Před 4 měsíci +1

    “In war there are know rules, there are no nobility, no measures that your enemy will not take to survive…”🙏👍🏿💯🗿

  • @skturbo107
    @skturbo107 Před 4 měsíci +1

    4:10 Is that the Triforce printed in red or am I missing something?

  • @masonripton2574
    @masonripton2574 Před 4 měsíci

    Hey idk if you ever look at comments but you should do a video on the “Star Weirds” maybe you already have tho

  • @deadon4847
    @deadon4847 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Obi Wan and Anakin committing war crimes? Who knew they were Canadian.

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 Před 4 měsíci +1

      When UK needs actors they gi Canadian. 😄

  • @johnthomas6054
    @johnthomas6054 Před 7 dny

    I like how the last guy you were talking about his voice sounded like Sean Connery

  • @zinmoney96
    @zinmoney96 Před 4 měsíci +13

    Worst mistake you can make: Expecting Jedi to not commit warcrimes

    • @advena996
      @advena996 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Is it a war crime of there's no in- universe Geneva convention?

    • @KyloStimpy
      @KyloStimpy Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@advena996 i get your point, but i'm pretty sure things like white flag predate Geneva convention... and probably Geneva

    • @DoctorWhoKage
      @DoctorWhoKage Před 4 měsíci +6

      ​@@advena996well, we *do* know that the Rules of Engagement exist in the Star Wars Galaxy and in the Clone Wars episode where Luminara and Ahsoka were escorting Nute Gunray back to Coruscant, the narrator basically said that once he was on Coruscant, he'll be held on trial for his many war crimes.
      So, if a Geneva Convention *does* exist, I gather that it probably has a different name because every piece of Star Wars media is not set in the Milky Way Galaxy.

    • @advena996
      @advena996 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@KyloStimpy I tend to agree with you overall, but I'm not sure that the "no tricks while surrendering" thing is universal. The trojan horse comes to mind. I believe that strategem isn't condemned, but it's been a while since I read the illiad.

    • @advena996
      @advena996 Před 4 měsíci

      @@DoctorWhoKage interesting! I'm guessing that false surrenders aren't against Coruscant's rules then? (I'm guessing Anakin's "enhanced interrogation techniques" were)

  • @invisibleman7820
    @invisibleman7820 Před 12 dny +1

    The only mistake is believing that Jedi won’t act like a Sith

  • @robbie1482
    @robbie1482 Před 4 měsíci

    Lok Durd actually returned in a now Legends two-parter novel called Star Wars Clone Wars Gambit, both the novels being called Stealth and Siege.

  • @brianburke4756
    @brianburke4756 Před 4 měsíci +1

    What about Admiral Trench? Man, I loved that character. :)

  • @tk-6967
    @tk-6967 Před 4 měsíci +2

    My theory with Wat Tambor is that, while he didn't think he would lose so easily, it was very clear that the Sith/corporate objective on Ryloth was to make the CIS unpopular and to make sure Cham Syndulla and other resistance fighters would remain loyal to the Republic, since Senator Orn Free Taa and Cham had a mutual distrust for one another, and originally Ryloth looked like it might leave the Republic prior to the cruel invasion, which would put both Sidious' and the mega corporations' interests at risk.
    It isn't like the battle of Ryloth ended after Tambor's capture either, the remaining separatist forces continued to ravage Ryloth. Since Tambor was in on the Sith plan and had clear interests in a Republic victory, it seems like his plan was originally to steal a bunch of treasure and gtfo of Ryloth, leaving behind an ill-prepared droid army with enough munitions to cause long lasting destruction to Ryloth's people but without the leadership to pose a serious threat to the Republic. The thing that everyone underestimated was Cham Syndulla, and it is clear that his resistance fighters had been the ones delaying Tambor's plan. Since Palpatine had no way to control the actions of the resistance fighters, Tambor was now at risk, which is probably why we see Dooku ordering Tambor to evacuate the capital following the successful landing of Republic troop transports carrying thousands of soldiers and hundreds of walkers.

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion Před 4 měsíci +3

    Since the Battle of Ryloth happened after the Battle of Christophsis, how come did Captain Mar Yuuk did not know about Obi-wan abused of the flag of truce, let alone deduced that Anakin most likely may pulled the same trick as his master? Plus, it is most likely official when it comes which Jedi Knight used to be Padawan to who before. So if Obi-wan did such a thing before, why Mar Tuuk never raised such a thought before until it is too late?

  • @winstonlewis5630
    @winstonlewis5630 Před 4 měsíci +1

    That’s desean Jackson reference was unexpected and lowkey.

  • @panda6907
    @panda6907 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Loathsom wasn't a fool, he was abiding by the rules of engagement...and the republic was doing war crimes.

  • @prof.badfellow9868
    @prof.badfellow9868 Před 4 měsíci +1

    We need some more tunes from the Techno Union. Wat Tambor = 4 on the floor

  • @bossman4799
    @bossman4799 Před 2 dny

    If I could make any show or movie exist, I would want some sort of CIS holdout story that takes place a few years before 0ABY. Something like the Rebels episode with Kalani, where there is a CIS commander who didn’t follow shutdown procedures since they knew something was up (even if Kalani’s reasoning was incorrect). It could be a really good opportunity to have a character like Merai who wanted to fight for the right reasons who now combats the Empire, a threat many of the good hearted Separatists thought they were fighting against to begin with, in the Republic. Such a story would likely never be made at this point, but something would be nice.

  • @MaxTrogmore42
    @MaxTrogmore42 Před 4 měsíci

    I'd love to see some break downs of the halo or destiny universe I think they'd sit well here such cool content

  • @tk-6967
    @tk-6967 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hold on, Mar Tuuk was ordered to use the weapon on the village by Count Dooku. It isn't his fault or his mistake that Jedi had taken refuge their, it was an unlucky coincidence.

  • @glowiak3430
    @glowiak3430 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Glory Count Dooku! Glory the CIS!

  • @willadeefriesland5107
    @willadeefriesland5107 Před 4 měsíci +1

    To quote another CZcams creator, HLC, concerning morality in war, "Wars aren't fought to determine who's right. Wars are fought to determine who's left."...

  • @Artporductions
    @Artporductions Před 4 měsíci +1

    Many Separatist leaders Survived the war

  • @algorhythm83
    @algorhythm83 Před 4 měsíci

    The DeSean Jackson diss though😂

  • @midniteraptor1474
    @midniteraptor1474 Před 4 měsíci

    Hello there everyone!

  • @DakkaScrappa
    @DakkaScrappa Před 13 dny

    last words before tambors ship is about to depart:
    START MY S**T THAT TAMBOR WAS A FOOL

  • @squidcraft313
    @squidcraft313 Před 4 měsíci

    Mar Tuuk actually survived Anakins attack by getting in an escape pod. We never saw him again, but the writers have said they’ve wanted to do something with him

    • @thimovijfschaft3271
      @thimovijfschaft3271 Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah I heard he is was supposed to die with his ship but George Lucas liked his character so he wanted hin to survive. Shame we never got to see him again.

  • @alchemy5750
    @alchemy5750 Před 4 měsíci

    Mar Tuuk was actually well-informed, looked respectful towards the jedi's skills, didn't underestimate his enemies and overall felt like he managed to remain calm and collected. He should've became a regular. We didn't really have smart separatist leaders besides Trench and maybe Kalani

  • @smartass0124
    @smartass0124 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Why wasn't Lok Durd recruited into the empire . Maybe could have worked on the Death Star with the secret hole to reactor.

    • @GamerX51
      @GamerX51 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Because he was an Alien; Palpatine's Empire was a Xenophobic, human-centric autocracy. The only reason Thrawn got to the position that he had was because he got results and was smart enough to know how to talk to Palpatine without making him feel threatened, so Palpatine was willing to overlook the fact that he was Chiss.

    • @SarastistheSerpent
      @SarastistheSerpent Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@GamerX51there were a few other non-humans in the Imperial military, but if I’m not mistaken, every single one of them (including Thrawn) was promoted directly by Emperor Palpatine himself. That was the only way they were able to have jobs in the imperial military.

    • @SarastistheSerpent
      @SarastistheSerpent Před 4 měsíci

      For a few reasons:
      1. Lok Durd was a Separatist and was therefore against the Republic, and by extension the Empire.
      2. Neimoidians were scapegoated by the Imperialist core worlds as being the cause of the war, and the purse worlds and their people were absolutely ravaged by the Empire after the war. Only the Geonosians suffered a worse fate at the hands of the empire.
      3. The Imperial military was extremely racist and humanocentric, and virtually no aliens were permitted to join the Empire’s military. The few that were allowed to join, like Thrawn, were only able to do so because Emperor Palpatine assigned them personally.
      4. Lok Durd was in Republic custody for most of the war, and was therefore an enemy of the Republic/Empire.
      5. Lok Durd made numerous enemies within the Republic military while he was an active Separatist military commander, most notably Orsen Krennic.

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 Před 4 měsíci

      @@SarastistheSerpent 3 doesn't matter and 2 simply isn't correct in either timeline, but the rest is true

  • @shokmusic_AC
    @shokmusic_AC Před 4 měsíci

    Lol DeSean Jackson move?!?!

  • @proboy2372
    @proboy2372 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Before I watch the video, is it because they listened to Palpatine?

  • @aster4jaden
    @aster4jaden Před 4 měsíci +1

    Trusting Sidious.

  • @ed301
    @ed301 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Love this Chanel, unlike so me other CZcamsrs (SWT) who cry and moan toxic nonsense, this channel always has something interesting to say and think about. 🎉

    • @ironspider23
      @ironspider23 Před 4 měsíci

      I agree ☝️ with you have a wonderful point.

  • @jeffagain7516
    @jeffagain7516 Před 4 měsíci

    In the Military, the phrase is; "One aw-shit wipes out a Thousand atta-boys.". :)

  • @konradb.3010
    @konradb.3010 Před 2 dny

    THERES NO GENEVA CONVENTION IN SPACE BATMAN

  • @hackman669
    @hackman669 Před 4 měsíci

    Squid Monster for President. 😁😄😃

  • @smartass0124
    @smartass0124 Před 4 měsíci +9

    First in clone wars series I thought it was to TV show. The good guys always win. It was even mentioned in rebels. . Later mentioned by Ezra neither side was meant to win.
    You made videos on how Duku Throw many battles and the war. But how come legitimate separatist didn't get tired of Dukus incompetents

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 Před 4 měsíci

      Because they weren't in control of anything. And also, Dooku was the political, not military leader of the CIS.

  • @smartass0124
    @smartass0124 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Why did the separatist take the Twileks as prisoners

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 Před 4 měsíci

      They wanted survants for wild parties 🥳🎉🤪

  • @hunterackerman1697
    @hunterackerman1697 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Rule number 1 of Star Wars Warfare. If you're fighting against the Republic, don't trust a word they say.
    Rule Number 2: NEVER fight against Skywalker.

  • @violet_skrs
    @violet_skrs Před 4 měsíci

    so the lesson is, it isn't a war crime in Star Wars to falsify a surrender as long as no one is left to testify?

  • @douglasnichols6116
    @douglasnichols6116 Před 4 měsíci

    What about obi wans brother or nephew or niece? Any guesses

  • @RayHardman7567
    @RayHardman7567 Před 4 měsíci

    Wouldn't that be all of them?

  • @aslanwydock2004
    @aslanwydock2004 Před 4 měsíci

    I'd say the whole government lost it all on one mistake. Trusting Sidious.

  • @lachbullen8014
    @lachbullen8014 Před 4 měsíci

    Yeah this is one of the reasons why you don't put a businessman in charge of a military operation it always ends in disaster..

  • @quadeong7453
    @quadeong7453 Před 4 měsíci

    I think an honorable mention should be Sanjay Rash from Onderon. He already captured the planet and declared himself king. Instead of trying to win the hearts and minds of the population by using the resistance attacks as propaganda, he ended up making them look like heroes by trying to execute the former king.

  • @lunatickoala
    @lunatickoala Před 4 měsíci +1

    Respecting a truce isn't about honor and breaking one isn't clever tactics. This goes double for the supposed guardians of peace. Wars generally don't end with the annihilation of one side, they end with the two sides coming to the table and negotiating terms. The two sides can be relatively even or the negotiations can be very one-sided with one side having no leverage to do anything but accept the other side's terms, but that's how wars actually end. But before a war can end there must first be a truce. Breaking a truce is a pretty good way to ensure that a war continues for years or even decades because how can the other side ever be sure that any terms offered are genuine?
    And if hypothetically speaking there's an autocrat that wants to undermine the credibility of the Jedi Order and justify extreme measures in dealing with them, Obi-Wan breaking a truce would be pretty good propaganda material.

  • @Separatists-Channel
    @Separatists-Channel Před měsícem

    the last two weren't the Seperatist's fault, the Jedi Broke the Rules of War, how could they predict that?

  • @MLaak86
    @MLaak86 Před 25 dny

    Bit unfair to say the two commanders who were the victim of war crimes by the Jedi made mistakes

  • @usrevenge
    @usrevenge Před 4 měsíci

    Wat tambor is the best character
    Eeeeeeoooweeee oooo

  • @darthsullen
    @darthsullen Před 4 měsíci +1

    Somewhere in the star wars universe there’s a planet of steampunk goth dudes the techno union ⚙️🔨⚙️🔨☢️☢️☢️

  • @rinokumera5907
    @rinokumera5907 Před 4 měsíci

    Yo

  • @gordobutnot5365
    @gordobutnot5365 Před 4 měsíci

    More

  • @Big_Boss4269
    @Big_Boss4269 Před měsícem

    You could argue ALL Separatist lost everything due to one mistake, trusting the Sith.

  • @colleens1107
    @colleens1107 Před 4 měsíci

    Ummm they were played just as the Jedi were played. They were pawns in Sidious’s plan to destroy the Republic, the Jedi Order, and to blame it on the Jedi and non humans -which the Jedi Order was largely comprised of AND LED BY ONE…I think blaming their downfall on anything they actually did is wrong because Sidious was playing both sides and as a result was sabotaging both sides so the war would drag on

  • @TankJockey38
    @TankJockey38 Před 4 měsíci

    Ratass got his ass kicked by Wayne

  • @CATDRL2
    @CATDRL2 Před 4 měsíci

    How abut Dr. Nuvo Vindi? didn't he made one mistake?

  • @hantra17
    @hantra17 Před 5 dny

    Mar Tuuk didn't make any mistakes. It was the republic that broke the law. Even war has laws. And funnily enough, the Jedi were experts at breaking the law.

  • @DarthVages
    @DarthVages Před 4 měsíci

    👍

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 Před 4 měsíci

    Trusting darth sidious throughout the whole war.

  • @luisduron2722
    @luisduron2722 Před 4 měsíci +1

    2024

  • @scottlyons8130
    @scottlyons8130 Před 7 dny

    It is very true but I think there was another mistake some of them made; they trusted the sith Lord.....

  • @atol71
    @atol71 Před 4 měsíci

    Pyramid separatists are such.... Like pyramid leaders..... Top of the pyramid ye' know!

  • @tweso1499
    @tweso1499 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Number 1 mistake: trusting Darth Sidious

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 Před 4 měsíci

      Only the CIS Council and a handful of others even knew about him lol, and they were all in on at least part of his plan. It isn't like any actual Separatists knew

  • @smartass0124
    @smartass0124 Před 4 měsíci +1

    How was Tambor on mostifar in revenge of the sith

    • @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Před 4 měsíci

      Could be another one of his species. Or maybe he escaped the Republic.

    • @lordwintertown8284
      @lordwintertown8284 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      I believe it was during Cad Banes escape from prison.

    • @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Před 4 měsíci

      @@lordwintertown8284 Makes sense

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 Před 4 měsíci

      @@lordwintertown8284 No, he was in the Republic naval base in the Ahsoka arc.

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 Před 4 měsíci

      Basically Dave Filoni fucked up the lore. Disney had to cover for him by explaining that he was broken out somehow (in the heart of Republic territory, it makes no fucking sense, I know). Tambor's participation on Ryloth was pretty nonsensical, and in reality should be ignored. He was the CEO of one of the biggest companies in the galaxy, it makes no sense for him to be leading an invasion force. What would even be his motivation?

  • @AlmightyZeno
    @AlmightyZeno Před 2 měsíci

    I prefer the Separatist than the Republic

  • @wompastompa3692
    @wompastompa3692 Před 4 měsíci

    Big mistakey?