I had no idea there was so much damage until I saw this particular footage. I would think that a better approach could have been found. Certainly, only the pilots and crew could have foreseen the capability of this aircraft to cause this damage. Lessons learned hopefully!
Just so everyone knows, it's not just the rotor's downwash that tore those trees up. It's also the turboshaft jet engine that powers the rotors. The blast and heat from it is so strong, the Osprey can't land on some ships with helipads because they are not sufficiently heat-shielded.
Just the heat maybe. But there is very little jet wash ripping out of those engines. Most of that thrust is caught by the power turbine that spins the propellers. Its not the same as, for example, a fighter jet thrust-hovering over that spot. But i do agree about the heat. Being that close, there might be some mild fire risks. But even that isnt bad, as that tiny hot stream is absorbed by the much stronger rotorwash, and cooled by it pretty much instantly. I dont work on the osprey. But i know a guy that does, and chat with him about them from time to time. And i work on other helicopters, so i like to think i know what I'm talking about. 😁
You waited 10 years to post this and you are so wrong it is laughable. The turboshaft engines power the rotors, and their exhaust gas velocity is about non existent. The heat from that altitude would have dispersed well before getting to the trees, even at that low altitude. All the damage you see if purely from the rotor wash produced by the blades. The landing on ship thing is not the Osprey but the F-35. The MV-22 Osprey currently flies from every ship in the Navy capable of handling it's size, that includes, LHAs, CVNs, and the new floating operating bases. I worked on helicopters most of my adult life both in and out of the military, so I know a thing or two because I've seen a thing or two.
@@ImpendingJoker Nah clown. Stop inventing things. "13. Adding the capability to land a V-22 Osprey or CH-53 Sea Stallion would require adding increased structural modifications to the LCS, such as heat shields, and strengthening the load-bearing capacity of flight deck supports." www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2021/january/littoral-combat-ships-maritime-coin I bet you embarrass yourself when you open your mouth in real life. Stop answering to old comments just to end up looking like the clown you are.
the news i heard about that were that that area was closed for public and they were not even allowed to stand there....so it's not the pilots fault, but the security on ground
@@sergedeleon9592 its a fucking giant VTOL helicopter landing with spinning blades that cause wind, its common sense not be close to a helicopter landing
@@sergedeleon9592 they were not supposed to be there in the first place. that area was supposed to be cordoned off. that has been factually proven that some local rent a cop security people failed to cordon off the area. the Marines and local LEO's proved that.
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Padster, do you TEACH at a helicopter training school? How effective would a few of these actual birds be in a straight line formation against some specific areas of massive wildfire. Could 3 or 4 of these immediate machines be able to "blow out" a few thousand acres of wildfire in less than 1 hour if the conditions were not too extreme?
Blowing air at a forest fire like it’s a giant birthday cake won’t put it out. If anything, it would provide more oxygen to the fire, which would make the fire larger and hotter. Seems like hotter air would mean less lift for the helicopter blades.
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@@typhoonfire8 Forgot to add the /s, whoops on a side note, having the entire engine tilt gives the V-22 ridiculous levels of downwash, apparently they're making a new tilt-rotor that leaves the engine core itself horizontal so it can land on more surfaces.
@Unmarked Nevada Naval & Marine Corps aviators are some of the best in the world. This Air Force pilot should have never gotten into this situation. That being said, the safest thing he could have done was land the aircraft. Aborting the landing would have increased downwash and potentially injured more people. Osprey rotor wash is notoriously nasty and has been responsible for MULTIPLE crashes and deaths
not the pilots fault, those people were not supposed to be standing there. security was supposed to cordon off that section but failed to do so, and you see the results of it. this was eventually proven by the Marines and local LEO who investigated the incident. 13 people had injuries from this.
It was unfortunate that there was more rotorwash then expected but the thing I dont understand is why didnt the Marines on the ground immediately waive off the V-22 or instruct them to cut the engines right on touchdown when they saw the issue ,i'm sure the pilots felt reallt bad when they found out the situation
pasley21 They didnt tell the pilot to waive off because it wouldve required MORE power (hence more downwash) and they didnt cut the engines because downwash was no longer an issue when it was on the ground
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I don't get why people blame the pilots, I mean security should've known to have people in front of the Osprey's LZ not let them stand under trees and under the down wash of this aircraft. I mean the down wash of an Osprey is like above 80 knots(92 mph), and the marines know how powerful their aircraft is, so the pilots and marines should be the last ones to blame in my opinion.
Most civilians don't expect a military helicopter to be that different from a civilian helicopter, I don't know how anyone could reasonably blame the victims for getting trees dropped on them.
@@charlieway3392 Oh and I'm assuming you have more? Also, the trees were in the way so the pilot couldn't see them, and aborting would've caused more damage than landing by having to increase collective thus downwash on those poor folks.
@@charlieway3392 wrong, that area was supposed to be completely cordoned off and restricted to public access while the bird was coming in. local rent a cop security people failed to keep them out of the area and thus this happened. both local LEO And the Marines made that determination when these videos first appeared. 13 people had various injuries and the local company was held liable for them.
@@abunchofiguanaswithinterne2186 i do, and you are also partially wrong. since we don't have the full scope, no pilot just blindly comes into a LZ without first orbiting the LZ and making a observational flight orbit to determine the best approach. what we don't have is evidence if he did this or not..... and that is irrelevant anyways, even with ground spotters ( which i did not see any ), PIC is responsible for his aircraft and its surroundings. making the situation worse, as per my reply to charlie, local security was supposed to have that particular area completely cordoned off, whether PIC was aware of this or not, is also a factor. he could have been relayed info that his approach was sterile with respect to dangers underneath him. that still DOES NOT RELIEVE him of his responsibility to check. Furthermore, the part you are correct about, had he made the decision to pull power and yank the Osprey up and away would only further aggravate the situation and increase the downwash power and damage effects. Osprey's produce roughly Cat 2 Hurricane speeds on their rotors, thats 96-110 MPH, and that can easy change if power is pulled ( this means to yank the collective into max power and climb due to immediate dangers to the aircraft ) if max power is pulled that number climbs to around 125-130 MPH which is Cat 3 now. so you are half and half on your response :) and yes, i am a helicopter pilot, so im well qualified to answer that.
wrong, the pilot was reprimanded from what i read. and he issued an apology to the people injured and to the event organizers. but he was not entirely at fault here. local police determined with the event coordinators and the Marines, that the hired local security people failed to keep those people out that area. it was cordoned off but a security barrier had been moved and a "DANGER" Tape was cut. The local security company was sued and held liable for the injuries and the property damage ( the tree ) for the failure of their staff to properly keep a restricted area clear.
@@madoogliani clearly you cannot read, they were supposed to be keeping people out of that area as it was the intended approach area. SMH, go back and re-read.
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I had no idea there was so much damage until I saw this particular footage. I would think that a better approach could have been found. Certainly, only the pilots and crew could have foreseen the capability of this aircraft to cause this damage. Lessons learned hopefully!
Just so everyone knows, it's not just the rotor's downwash that tore those trees up. It's also the turboshaft jet engine that powers the rotors. The blast and heat from it is so strong, the Osprey can't land on some ships with helipads because they are not sufficiently heat-shielded.
Just the heat maybe.
But there is very little jet wash ripping out of those engines.
Most of that thrust is caught by the power turbine that spins the propellers.
Its not the same as, for example, a fighter jet thrust-hovering over that spot.
But i do agree about the heat. Being that close, there might be some mild fire risks. But even that isnt bad, as that tiny hot stream is absorbed by the much stronger rotorwash, and cooled by it pretty much instantly.
I dont work on the osprey. But i know a guy that does, and chat with him about them from time to time. And i work on other helicopters, so i like to think i know what I'm talking about. 😁
You waited 10 years to post this and you are so wrong it is laughable. The turboshaft engines power the rotors, and their exhaust gas velocity is about non existent. The heat from that altitude would have dispersed well before getting to the trees, even at that low altitude. All the damage you see if purely from the rotor wash produced by the blades. The landing on ship thing is not the Osprey but the F-35. The MV-22 Osprey currently flies from every ship in the Navy capable of handling it's size, that includes, LHAs, CVNs, and the new floating operating bases. I worked on helicopters most of my adult life both in and out of the military, so I know a thing or two because I've seen a thing or two.
@@ImpendingJoker
Nah clown. Stop inventing things.
"13. Adding the capability to land a V-22 Osprey or CH-53 Sea Stallion would require adding increased structural modifications to the LCS, such as heat shields, and strengthening the load-bearing capacity of flight deck supports."
www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2021/january/littoral-combat-ships-maritime-coin
I bet you embarrass yourself when you open your mouth in real life. Stop answering to old comments just to end up looking like the clown you are.
@@ImpendingJoker Nope, They had to outfit our Carriers in 2009 to handle the landing of them.
you're an idiot
That's another way to kill the opponents without using a bullet.
Whoever got shwacked by the tree probably has a nice lawsuit for the military.
the news i heard about that were that that area was closed for public and they were not even allowed to stand there....so it's not the pilots fault, but the security on ground
@Duncan Jesus whatever bot
They did not warn the crowd there to go away to avoid being injured
@@sergedeleon9592 I'm gonna say closed from the public means that you really shouldn't be there in the first place.
@@sergedeleon9592 its a fucking giant VTOL helicopter landing with spinning blades that cause wind, its common sense not be close to a helicopter landing
@@sergedeleon9592 they were not supposed to be there in the first place.
that area was supposed to be cordoned off. that has been factually proven that some local rent a cop security people failed to cordon off the area. the Marines and local LEO's proved that.
That *Wink* he gave us when he touchdown lmao
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@@odeonarsenal6597 0:1:14
Wow, that is amazing.
Well, that’s one way HOA can clean up a loosely hanging tree over a house.
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What camerqa did you use?
Good quality.
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@@MegaProMaxPlus13 years ago though. Really what did you use?
hahahaha how to shave a tree?
like osprey style XD
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That's stupid
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Man that prop wash!!
Beautiful
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How much thrust does one propeller put out?
The rotor wash on the v22 is equivalent to a category 2 hurricane
Plenty!
About one half of the total thrust of the airplane.
its not just the rotor downwash, the exhaust from the jet engines is directed downward also with the engines in vertical rotated position.
@@bootnreboot7456 Read the previous comments. The turbine’s exhaust velocity is much lower than that of a jet engine.
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Hello Richard. I work at a helicopter training school and am compiling a short video on the dangers of downwash. Is this your clip and would it be okay to use it? Andy
Padster, do you TEACH at a helicopter training school?
How effective would a few of these actual birds be in a straight line formation against some specific areas of massive wildfire.
Could 3 or 4 of these immediate machines be able to "blow out" a few thousand acres of wildfire in less than 1 hour if the conditions were not too extreme?
@@nakedfaves4445 Not how wind works with a fire
The wind would feed the fire and cause it to burn much hotter
Blowing air at a forest fire like it’s a giant birthday cake won’t put it out. If anything, it would provide more oxygen to the fire, which would make the fire larger and hotter. Seems like hotter air would mean less lift for the helicopter blades.
thanks for posting that video
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Somebody’s got some “EXPLAINING” to do!
Why would they land like that, that terrible.
There's no cure for stupidity - Those fools on the ground dont know how VTOL craft work 🤣
It's the fault of the people on the ground that the aircraft came in over them, I suppose?
Guess that goes for commenting too....
@@typhoonfire8 Forgot to add the /s, whoops
on a side note, having the entire engine tilt gives the V-22 ridiculous levels of downwash, apparently they're making a new tilt-rotor that leaves the engine core itself horizontal so it can land on more surfaces.
This is exactly why i fly exclusively with the United States Marines Corps
@Unmarked Nevada During this particular incident the aircraft was being flown by United States Air Force pilots.
@Unmarked Nevada Naval & Marine Corps aviators are some of the best in the world. This Air Force pilot should have never gotten into this situation. That being said, the safest thing he could have done was land the aircraft. Aborting the landing would have increased downwash and potentially injured more people.
Osprey rotor wash is notoriously nasty and has been responsible for MULTIPLE crashes and deaths
@Unmarked NevadaThe rotor wash is beyond terrible and it really limits what the aircraft can be used for.
Wow 😂😂🇺🇾 que bueno 👍.
two people got hit by the tree
Pilot was never aware of the downash effects on audience... now on the video, one of the main rreason cars still don´t fly.... great camera
not the pilots fault, those people were not supposed to be standing there. security was supposed to cordon off that section but failed to do so, and you see the results of it.
this was eventually proven by the Marines and local LEO who investigated the incident. 13 people had injuries from this.
@okeymakey100 jajajaja flipante no??? Pues imaginate lo que haran cuando no esten de exibicion, ni delante de un monton de camaras... jejejejeje =S
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Bad day for the those folks under .
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I Think the Helicopter Pilot did it on purpose Lol 🤣
What helicopter?
It was unfortunate that there was more rotorwash then expected but the thing I dont understand is why didnt the Marines on the ground immediately waive off the V-22 or instruct them to cut the engines right on touchdown when they saw the issue ,i'm sure the pilots felt reallt bad when they found out the situation
pasley21 They didnt tell the pilot to waive off because it wouldve required MORE power (hence more downwash) and they didnt cut the engines because downwash was no longer an issue when it was on the ground
Fucking shit up through gross negligence, sounds like a military operation alright
US Marine Corps tree surgeons at your service!
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Just a little down wash...yesh
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well that was a huge mess damn
1:42 just act like nothing happened
Hmm. I wonder what those millitary people was trying to do. Riotcontroll or they didn't take notise about those people who was hurt.
Heard there was oil underneath the park
it was a local event that the Marines brought a MV-22 to display it to the crowds.
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I would shave a tree instead of fly around
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I don't get why people blame the pilots, I mean security should've known to have people in front of the Osprey's LZ not let them stand under trees and under the down wash of this aircraft. I mean the down wash of an Osprey is like above 80 knots(92 mph), and the marines know how powerful their aircraft is, so the pilots and marines should be the last ones to blame in my opinion.
Most civilians don't expect a military helicopter to be that different from a civilian helicopter, I don't know how anyone could reasonably blame the victims for getting trees dropped on them.
Pilot's make go or no go decisions constantly, this situation was a no go to anyone with experience. They obviously have no experience.
@@charlieway3392 Oh and I'm assuming you have more? Also, the trees were in the way so the pilot couldn't see them, and aborting would've caused more damage than landing by having to increase collective thus downwash on those poor folks.
@@charlieway3392 wrong, that area was supposed to be completely cordoned off and restricted to public access while the bird was coming in. local rent a cop security people failed to keep them out of the area and thus this happened.
both local LEO And the Marines made that determination when these videos first appeared. 13 people had various injuries and the local company was held liable for them.
@@abunchofiguanaswithinterne2186 i do, and you are also partially wrong.
since we don't have the full scope, no pilot just blindly comes into a LZ without first orbiting the LZ and making a observational flight orbit to determine the best approach.
what we don't have is evidence if he did this or not..... and that is irrelevant anyways, even with ground spotters ( which i did not see any ), PIC is responsible for his aircraft and its surroundings.
making the situation worse, as per my reply to charlie, local security was supposed to have that particular area completely cordoned off, whether PIC was aware of this or not, is also a factor. he could have been relayed info that his approach was sterile with respect to dangers underneath him. that still DOES NOT RELIEVE him of his responsibility to check. Furthermore, the part you are correct about, had he made the decision to pull power and yank the Osprey up and away would only further aggravate the situation and increase the downwash power and damage effects.
Osprey's produce roughly Cat 2 Hurricane speeds on their rotors, thats 96-110 MPH, and that can easy change if power is pulled ( this means to yank the collective into max power and climb due to immediate dangers to the aircraft ) if max power is pulled that number climbs to around 125-130 MPH which is Cat 3 now.
so you are half and half on your response :)
and yes, i am a helicopter pilot, so im well qualified to answer that.
That's the easy way to prune the trees.
thanks for the video, people kep being stupid and posting dumb stuff,
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Probably EF1
Soldiers to the people; "Next time dont call us to get your cat out of the tree!!!"
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Lol
I just watched the other video of this incident. The marines or whatever doesn't care at all about those civilians.
wrong, the pilot was reprimanded from what i read. and he issued an apology to the people injured and to the event organizers. but he was not entirely at fault here.
local police determined with the event coordinators and the Marines, that the hired local security people failed to keep those people out that area. it was cordoned off but a security barrier had been moved and a "DANGER" Tape was cut.
The local security company was sued and held liable for the injuries and the property damage ( the tree ) for the failure of their staff to properly keep a restricted area clear.
@@CapStar362 The security company were expected to move the tree?
@@madoogliani clearly you cannot read, they were supposed to be keeping people out of that area as it was the intended approach area. SMH, go back and re-read.
lol
Jarheads. Derp derp dur hur hur oorah? Yep derp derp.
fallout 3 ftw lol hahaha
Those plane are able to land like a heli but fly at airplane speeds.
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Don't blame the Marines -- they were just putting on a demonstration.
jajaja they are marines?? j come on!!!they normally do that kind of mistakes??
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Chaos in America. Soldiers with weapons running in combat gear as people are frantic and stuck under trees in the background
This was awesome. And I love all the Illegal Aliens in here talking shit about America and the Marines.
そもそも、ヘリ同等と言っていいオスプレイの着陸地点近くに、テントやレジャーシートなんて、事前の周知足りなすぎだろ(笑)
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This pilot is untrained.