iRacing Guides | How to do insane standing starts! No Clutch needed!
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2020
- UPDATE: With the 2021S2 build this doesn't work any longer in the Porsche Cup car since we now can burn the clutch ;-)
Since I often get that question on streams I thought I might as well just make a guide how to do those really good standing starts.
2:05 - Not so OP but easy option
3:22 - OP Starts with a Dual Clutch
6:17 - OP Starts without a Dual Clutch
Software needed for Method 3:
vJoy ⏩ vjoystick.sourceforge.net/site/
UCR ⏩ github.com/snoothy/ucr/releases
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1: setup clutch software
2: practice and tune against AI
3: qualify 13 because I took too long practicing starts and no time practicing qually.
4: OP start, then meatball before crossing start line!
Great vid Dan, will keep trying.
I can smell the clutches burning. Great vid, thanks
😂😂😂
The dedication to the video is top notch. Just started iracing yesterday and I regularly qualify on pole but lose a few positions at the start. The video was very helpful
I have a way to do this without any other software:
Set secondary clutch to button on wheel (0 or 100% clutch)
Now set your foot clutch in iRacing to only 43% (to do this hold done when your clutch is only pressed to 43% then it will be 43% at full pressure)
On-Grid depress the full actual clutch (which will be 43%) and button (will be 100% clutch) - now full throttle
at green lights release button - car will be at 43% clutch and you can throttle clutch like normal with foot
You don't get to load it up at the clutch bite point then; for the Cup I understand that to be important?
@@JSmith73 if you select "use custom controls for this car" you can set up bite points that will save to that specific car config and you can have multiple bite points for any car you chose. And once you set a bite point you can go into the config file and manually tweak it by hand to fit your liking.
@@bruno1023 be aware that high temps can cause the bite point to change. I'm not quite that level myself yet but learned it from a team mate who had a moment of stress from it. He's the alien on the g27 who outperforms the SC2 Pro guys..
@@bruno1023 all my cars are custom controls also, this is good advice in general. :)
@@JSmith73 oh so you're set then. Play around with this. I read your comment on the temps changing the bite point. I set my foot clutch quite loose so I have a lot of range to control where the bite point is. The "button" release shouldn't be dropped to the bite point but the bite point will be found with your foot once you release the button.
It's hard for me to explain but can always jump in the Sim and share my screen if you ever would like a demo of what I mean. It's always easier to show than to tell.
These videos have helped me adjust from AC/ACC to iracing much better, thank you!! Need more advanced guides 😁
Hey, I'm thinking about switching over to iracing.
I was running Acc for almost 8 months, basically just on public Lobbys.
What do you think, is it worth it in terms of fun and learning ?!
Thanks in advance mate.
@@gesunderpsychopath8569 Going from ACC public lobbies to iRacing is 100% worth the extra money. The cost of it is a strain on me personally, but I still find it fully worth it for the quality of racing.
Biggest adjustment is understanding the braking is completely different and the cars are a bit twitchy.
I've learned a massive amount in iRacing so far, and got to compete against known drivers that I had no business sharing a racetrack with.
Try it for 3 months, get out of rookies and do some laps in the Pcup, ir-04, a good GT4, or PCC and see if you can stop 😉
Good to see the vJoy option, will have to give it a try since I keep having crap starts.
This video just made my day DAN! You just save me a lot of money because I did want to buy a wheel with dual clutch :-)
Good work on the video, thanks!
Waiting on the streaming guide ;)
Fucked up my first ever 992 Cup standing start yesterday starting P6.
Of course Dan has a video for me. Thanks man.
Love the video Dan! You're one of my favourite iracing streamers. Great work mate! Keep doing these tutorials and maybe also do a rig tour? 😁
what ?! there is other streamers ?! XD
Very helpful! Thanks from Germany 😉 Idea for another video: Tire Management & Monitoring
I will try this tonight. Been searching for a way to get a better jump off the start.
Thanks for all the tips...very useful!!!
I was, literally, looking for videos on how to improve my standing start... Thanks Dan
Awesome video, thanks Dan !
I’ve looped it from pole in a radical race. Took out half the field. Not a proud moment! Wish I saw this video first lol
This. Is. Brilliant! Many many thankings!!
Great video m8! I would really love a video about catching car when its snapoversteering, or sliding on grass, or other extreme situations. IT looks like You are the man who could provide it :) not that You slide a lot...not any of that...typical geodesic driver. cheers
Dan, I love these videos! Please keep them coming and could you in the future touch the following. Driving Camera Adjustments like Roll Chassis,Pitch Chassis,and Neck Motion. I know they are all subjective but, a small overview and maybe share your thoughts on a more immersive experience to help us drive a faster.
I've never heard of these settings, so I don't think I'm the right person for a guide on that ^^
@@DanSuzuki Wow. was just asking. So you know they are under the FFB view sliders were you set wheel strength under drivers view. Thanks for being honest.
THX mate. You've saved me with F3 starts! XD
Thank you Dan. I was getting tired of playing catch up.
Very nice tutorial Dan! Do you ever play with TC or any car adjustment during a race to compensate with tire temperature/wear change? If you do, would be great to see tutorial on this.
No, not really - iRacing tire model is kinda bad so the settings don’t have a big influence. If I change something then it’s brake bias
Really Good Tutorial, thank you
Thanks Dan! 🤟🏻😍Really helped
I think an easier solution to not having three feet is to map the brakes to both the brake pedal and a button on your wheel (100% braking whenever the button is pressed). This way you can use the clutch and gas pedals with your feet while holding down the brakes and there is no need for vJoy. Once the race is ongoing you can move your left foot to the brake pedal.
Dan you're the man! QUAKERWESTY
Great video thank you so much!
really nice vid Dan
Hey Dan, Great video! Question though. I've tried this to a T and double checked everything. I'm currently having an issue where the seems to be not engaging almost like it broke in sim. I thought it was the button not engaging properly but that's not the case. Everything is working fine and I've even achieved the same issue while doing the clutch manually without any buttons. Almost like it glitches the clutch maybe? I'm wondering if you've seen this issue or had it yourself and had some feedback that may help. Thanks!
Hi Dan, awesome stuff as always! Thank you! Quick question: it seems like your brake input won’t go all the way to 100%, it seems to stop around 78%.... are you limiting the brake max to avoid locking the brakes easily? I do something very similar by editing my joycalib.yaml files... I just wanted to know if that’s the same thing you are doing. Thanks again man!
Yeah, I use a brake with a kinda weak load cell (65kg) and want to get a bigger useable dynamic range :)
Great informative vid, loving these tips, been playing iracing for years a other than the mx5, struggle getting most off the line
Brilliant and thank you
Unfortunately this does not work for me for some reason. I am using Method 3 and have followed your instructions exactly as you explained, however when i tested it in a "test session", the car starts the same as it would with anti stall clutch, no faster. I even deliberately let go of the clutch button early to see if i could get wheelspin like you did in your video. I got no wheelspin.......OOPS, ok i figured it out. Doing it in the right order is a MUST, Brake, Throttle, Button clutch, 1st gear. I was putting the button clutch last. Works great now! Thanks Dan!
Awesome video for all of us “lol noob lol”. Do you have to keep both programs open at all times or can you just set it once?
Try it out, vjoy installs as a driver but you gotta try if the other one needs to be open. I use my wheel :)
Hi Dan! Great video once again, i must be doin something wrong but I can't find it with the Porsch Cup car. It seems like it keeps the clutch engaged once I start. Even though I'm not pressing anything. It worked fine for de MX-5 but with the Porsche I don't seem to get it... Could give me some pointers please?
Very good explanation of how to start the race in iracing
Hi @Dan Suzuki. Thanks for the video. I am trying to map the dual clutch paddles on the Fanatec Advanced Paddle Module/R300. This video has helped but do you know if i can map one of the paddles to release gradually in vjoy? Thanks
nice now we can have 7 wide in turn one
Do you know if its possible to do a good standing start with the MX5 after the latest update (seq shifter/paddleshifter). Only have gas and brake pedal mounted at the moment.
Danke Dan!
Whatever iRacing
I want to see you ravage those guitars!
😂😂😂😂
Dan, do these same techniques work current day and does these work for the mx5 and gr86? Thanks again sir!
is it possible to make the axis of the cube control double clutch a double axis (because I don't like the cube's potentiometer and it is difficult to set precisely) or in any case if it is possible to identify the axis of the clutch to give a precise percentage of bite points instead to use the potentiometer?? thanks in advance for the reply
This is an amazing "hack" thank you so much for sharing!!!
Can the 3rd method still be used in GT3s, or was this patched for all cars? If so, is the first method the best way to standing start GT3s (league races)?
I'm having problems Dan with trying to use this UCR software (because I dont have a dual clutch) anyway it works the way you showed in video but it also messes up all the other wheel settings on Logitec G25. It's like some one just set the centering spring on max all the time. Any Idea's on how to correct this problem?
probably need to add another axis for the throttle because the vjoy thinks the x is the wheel itself in some cases, atleast that's how I'm using it in combination with irFFb
Hey Dan Great vid, but the music behind your voice makes it hard to hear you for us oldies. Thanks for the work you put in. Kristoff.
Thanks for the feedback, I’ll make it quieter for the next ones :)
For method 2, how big of a difference is there between the way you showed, and NOT holding the brake, but fully holding in the clutch, and then at the green flag releasing the clutch to the bite point?
No brake you will roll and either jump start or be rolling backwards
@@helmetculture not true, there are very few tracks with enough of a slope on the grid to cause you to roll if you’re holding the clutch in with no brake
oh goodness. i'll take that ascher bin rim
Hey Dan. Fantastic tutorial. In the Mercedes AMG GT3 i struggle to find the correct bite point. What would you suggest? I have 37 now and i turn TC off at the start. Is this okay?
TC off is a good call! I’ve never tried a standing start in the AMG though - where do you need that? :D
@@DanSuzuki We have a Norwegian national league with standing start (dont ask meg why haha) I dont get it to work with the AMG. It spins to much and i have tried from 37-60 percent. And when i release the ``dual clutch`` it wont gear to 2, The rev limiter starts all over again
Hello Mr Suzuki, Just wondering if this video and procedure for the clutches is still reverent in July 2024.
Thx:)
Thank you for the great video, quick question: when i set the anti stall clutch i racing ask me to calibrate the clutch, what should i do considering i have not the third pedal for the clutch? Can i assign a button in the wheel?
Yeah just assign a random button - can be keyboard as well :)
Thanks a lot Dan
@@leonasta9809 I'm in the same boat. When you set it up can use it only on the start or do you have to use it when shifting gears also?
@@logo8009 if you follow the method 1 you will not use it in any case. You need only to assign the clutch to a button
In the 911 I just keep it in neutral at half revs and then slam into first when the lights go out, it goes like a rocket and you usually get into the lead into T1
so u need clutch for start only ? then change gears as normal?
Method 1 without a clutch is working brilliantly with the 992.
Hey Dan ! I have a question , can I lock a clutch at 44%? Just to avoid to go at 50 or much ? Thanks !
Yeah, probably similar to the way described in the latest "brake video".
Dan Suzuki I will watch her 🙂 I hope to see you soon in another race buddy! (Iam Quentin Vialatte 😉)
Hello Dan. I have mapped my second clutch through the UCR, it is set to 43%. I drive the radical SR8. But now it doesnt work anymore. I have not changed anything in the UCR, but suddenly the second clutch will be at a 100%, even though everything seems to be fine in the VJoy and the UCR. Do you have any suggestions to fix this?
Did you maybe accidentally recalibrate it with the 43% setting?
@@DanSuzuki YES!!!! That was it. Thank uou very much indeed!!! (I can’t believe that I did such a mistake…..)
How is your loading time so fast. Is it just your computer's specs? I feel like with every build they've been coming out with, my loading times have been getting longer and longer.
Video editing 😅
@@DanSuzuki omg, I feel like a retard. Should've watched it again...haha.
😂 that pole position start... bruh 🤣💣
Would love a video on getting past those drivers that are slowing than you, but will not get out of the way to let you through. 🤦♂️😄🤣
Well the incident limit is 25 .......... just kidding 😂
your explanation at 4.25 i don't get you on how how manage clutch/brake and throttle at the same time ? do you put the clutch on the wheel?
Yes! But this method does not work any more in the latest build
@@DanSuzuki thx Dan for coming back to me, what you suggest to do now?
@@MAMAMA341 if you don’t have a clutch on your Wheel I would either calibrate the pedal clutch so something like 42% and then full throttle and clutch and slam it onto 1st gear on green. Alternatively just use the brake and throttle same time method - tilt works decently!
@@DanSuzuki THX again for your advice much appreciated.
What is the telemetry widget in this video?
If your bin is too full, I will recycle the ascher wheel. Thx
Great vid, I was wondering if there is a way to stop your brakes from locking up, I'm talking about brake pedals most of us use, not super high end ones. I mean yeah don't press brakes all the way, but I mean is there way to eliminate the possibility of lockup.
There is and I will make a video how to do that next :)
@@DanSuzuki That's great! I think my biggest weakness is proper brake control. I've noticed most guys over 2k irating generally brake way later than I feel I can to to hit the apex. I'm not talking about trail braking, I do that ok, but the corners where trail braking isn't as effective. I'm at my ceiling of around 1750 irating and until I get better at braking I think I'm stuck there.
iRacing doesn't allow me to chose Anti Stall Clutch, if I don't have a clutch pedal assigned.
that start seemed intended, cmon! xD
So you're telling me I'm not a good actor :(?
Bit late but i have Problems at standing starts in rfactor foes this work also in rf2
How come your loading times for the ruf race was so fast?
I just cut the video there 😇
Thats impossible now, i tryed but now ots dont show the second clutc in the menu of options
Me too !
has anyone managed to set method 3 in newest f1 car in iRacing (Mercedes W12 E)?
Anyone else lose Force Feedback whenever they setup vJoy? I don't know what causes it, but it makes the solution not workable.
Not sure what is the benefit of the dual clutch if you use it like this with the brake pedal oved the First simple method. In both methods you release the brake when the gear is allready ingaged so what is the benefit? The slow release of the clutch?
Well the benefit is a much better start :D
@@DanSuzuki thanks mate but what i ment is why? Can you explain what make the start better? The release of the brake is the same i guess
@@zivsade3766 I would assume because the engine can run in a "better" rev area ... but I guess only iRacing will know the exact reason.
@@DanSuzuki thanks mate - where are you from by the way?
@@zivsade3766 Germany :)
Any reason why you have the wheel range at 883
No, should be 900 ... close enough :D
I've tried this, got the clutch to work at 43% and followed the exact sequence - brake, throttle, 43% clutch button, first gear. However, when you change to first gear your throttle drops in the video to have a smooth engine sound (but you're still holding down maximally). Mine holds full throttle on the engine still at max revs. What am I doing wrong?
This doesnt work anymore with the latest patch :-(
Ahhhhhh. I was going insane with this. I've been using method 1 with the brake, 1st gear, throttle, lift brake at green. I guess I'll keep doing that.
@@DanSuzuki Leave it to iR to ruin the fun.. and I just found this video, too.. FeelsBadDan
There is a way around the new update that i have done a video about it works well for 1 start then the clutch is no good if you try again, which when you are doing a race you only need it to work once. Can post a link if people need or just find it on my channel
@@DanSuzuki there is a work around for the 911 that ive been doing, its good for 1 start launch though any more and the clutch dies
Hi dan, you said i should comment down below, so here i am, commenting down below
Thank you very much Chris for commenting down below, your comment down below is much appreciated 😅
dan i tried it but my clutch goes 100% even when set to 43
same ):
same
Bizarrely, I got it to go to 43 the first time i tried. I exited the screen and now its always 100%. UCR is working and registering 43% when i press the button but in iracing it's 100%. All i did was move to a different track.
I just switch to first gear while holding the brake all the way down and then while still on the brake and hold gas at 50%, when it goes green, I let go of brake. :D who needs a clutch
People who want to do the best starts need a clutch :)
do braking!
Hi, long shot here for some advice. I got this working on my Logitech DFGT but since coming back to PC now when I run vjoy, UCR and the Logitech wheel software it only allows my steering to turn about 90 degrees left or right and the wheel turns very fast in game. I could only fix this by reinstalling the Logitech profiler
Is there a way to fix this without having to do that every time?
throw it away in turn one 🤣 yep
Does it still work ? UCR does not show my wheal as a input device ?!
In theory yes, but iracing has that feature built into the game now