Religion in France gives some of today's youth 'a sense of meaning that society is failing to give'
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- For nearly 80 years, France has prided itself on its secular identity, engraved in the French Constitution. Over the past couple of decades, secularism, deemed a universal value of French society, has been challenged in many arenas: public places, the workplace and notably at school. Some French citizens perceive secularism as discriminatory and an affront to their own personal values. Some of today's French youth see freedom of expression in the prism of 'their personal experience" rather than as a collective in society by voting or "in the way they join a group," explains Gabriel Lattanzio, Associate Professor at Sciences Po and Université Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne. He asserts that, over the past 15-20 years, French youth have begun to see "their freedom in terms of how they can manifest themselves." Can freedom of expression in France, in a public arena, include religious expression and religious symbols? Or does the French Constitution demand freedom from religion in French society? Is religion in France meant to be confined to a house of worship, the home or a religious organisation? Professor Lattanzio joins FRANCE 24's François Picard to offer a deeper perspective on a very delicate subject that has sparked endless debates with no easy answer.
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I support French state in standing behind their teachers.
At last, the governement is supporting our teachers. That took times tho
Right now we are average 20% in french cities , just waiting for 40% and then doing this type of thing and look the reaction
Supporting what religious oppression
@@dilonkumar4960 Yeah like pedophile priests preying on children and molesting them. Religion does not give meaning to today's youth. The above report is a big fat lie and is not true at all.
In fact, many are leaving and becoming nones meaning they are not even being spiritual like before and have even gone way beyond that.
They've become nonaffiliated and atheistic or nontheistic fulfilling the phrase "Religion is the opiate of the people."
I mean if you really want to wear Hijab, just sue the government or the school. Get the supreme court involved, this is the correct way to pronounce your stance in a civilised society. Giving people death threats is just a barbarian way to pronounce disagreement.
I am a major proponent of the separation of church and state.
Not the issue here
@iq-ride9329 Public schools are a part of the state. Hijab is associated with religion. Uhhh yeah, this is a church vs. state discussion.
@@weston.weston Amazing how bigotry can hide behind anything, but the facts.
It matters absolute jack shi what a americuk supports lol France founded on blood of Catholics starting from battle of tours will always be christian country, u dont matter none lol
It matters nothing what a ameriCUK supports 😂😂😂 bak to ur lgbtt parade, irrelevantt libb
Charlie Hebdo ✌
just ban that cult
What do you know about Religions and cults?? Educate yourself.
Islam need to be banned 😢
What francism
@@kaashlia Why isn't it a cult? They kill people for having different ideas.
Just an stupidity, like French bigoted laws
Sometimes religion helps, it is true. But it is important to mix it with other practices - psychology, rationalism etc. Boundaries are important.
France is not islamic country. Hijab in islam schools is appropriate.
I know from orthodox churches that women there also put sxarfs on heads. But it is not like this in schools etc. So if law says it is not right - obey the law.
So if law says it is not right - Change the law
Interesting
Enjoying multicultural society.
I think there are strengths, but I do believe the hyper individualism that began with my generation (millennial) has a lot of weakness. A healthy democracy requires some collective responsibility and sense of destiny.
1:59 it dont matter what you wanna make sure, lil old man. France founded on blood of christianss starting from as early as battle of tours will always be christian no matter how hard u cope
So, what are the rules?
Believes are just that, an internal manifestation of what one is considering as a different set of values. With all the flaws, schools are there to provide a point of reference (base level) of the society building blocks. Simultaneously, We are different and the same so we should pay attention that this aspect. In the general West, there was a struggle for many years to remove the religion from schools although the very first schools came into existence near the religious establishments.
This isn’t about religion. It’s one interpretation of religious sect. Many Muslims do not wear head garments!
It’s not matter of what Muslims believe. It’s allowing women wear the clothes of their choice.
You are right. It is a bout State Dictate that infringes on personal freedom of little girls based on their religion.
@@abdalehassan4598This is not about women but children whilst at school.
The hijab is not about faith rather used to
Advertise for islam
No that’s how you perceive it. It’s women choosing what they want to wear!!!
So it is about your bigotry toward Islam then!
@@iq-ride9329of course, remember battle of tourss? 😂
@@bruhmcchaddeus413
No, I wasn't there
Bataille de Tours, pas Bataille de Tourss
If it wasn't for us, the Allies would have lost WWI. We died defending France against the German!
@@iq-ride9329 muslims helped france in ww2..? Who you talking about?
Personally, I am ok with practicing someone's religion, as long as it does not impose or create hardship on others. For example, sure you can lay your rug and pray in public, but make sure it does not affect traffic. Wear your hijab, crosses, or some other religious headgear, but don't make them a symbol of you being better than others. Don't think women who don't wear your garb are impure or seducing men. And best of all, never ask for special considerations just because of your religion. Don't ask others to stop eating pork. Your practice should be personal. Believe it or not, you can be religious and have your religious beliefs and practices not have anything to do with other people.
I come from a country where 50% of the population is muslim. I had classmates that wore the head scaff (not the whole hijab, that was not allowed). It wasn't a big deal, as long no one talks about religion in school.
Which country is that?
which country is that?
🇪🇺✝️💪
Europe is anti-Christian I don’t know what you think this is.
Hijab police ala France 😂🤣🤣
If religion was private there would be no disagreements about authors of religious texts. Keeping it quiet and personal can help you blend in and turn your attention to studies.
"Religion, giving hope to people in world torn apart by religion." - Jon Stewart
I totally disagree, religions don't offer more meaning they're only doing it more aggressively and with shameless lies to make it look better.
Leave students to believe their religion. Just teach the students real education
No, if she wants to "show off" her religion in FRANCE, she/they must CHANGE the LAW, FIRST!!!😮😢
@@BJake2 practice her religion. God I love the USA
I thought you guys believed that women should wear whatever clothes they want to wear!!! What happened?? All of sudden you become Taliban !!!
They can wear ( or not) everything they love but not at school.
Rules are rules for anyone: before entering school you remove your hijab, kippah, cross or star of David necklace. Also you need to have a decent clothing ( no for miniskirts,naked bellies, t-shirts with indecent messages printed on ...).Like in any other school in the world.
This law was passed 20 years ago...move to an Islamic state
If they want to be Muslim in a secular country, maybe they are at fault?
They are not women but children!
@@WSEDT-re6mnOne of the problems of the sensitive religion.
We have the law too, i support it. But the principal has no right to inforce the law! Period.
French really are melodramatic.
There is thin line there and no one really owns it. School is responsible to teach students from many books (some more up to date than others). The humanist values are not "prisoners" of any one book (no matter if it comes from the East, West, North or South). The true values do not need to be flagged out on the outside as, in the spirit of, freedom of expression, tomorrow could bring something different.
Amish join the chat...
The Amish only go to their own schools. So, they've never caused any problems like this.
@@daviddestefanis2989 yes I agree but if the muslim girls are wearing headscarves and not veil is that a problem ..
Religions have been providing the meaning of life for thousands of years as the human mind has not been evolving beyond religion.
Could the French be making this issue out to be a bigger deal than it needs to be? After all, it is just items of clothing. Why go to war with a religious dress code?
Did you listen to the video?
It's always just one more thing, then another, then another and it will never stop until you submit to their will
You can’t tolerate when Muslim women practice their freedom!!! What happened to your freedom that you used preach around the world!!!
Keep your medieval practices in Islamic countries, real simple, why should the west change for you? respect the local LAWS
we want to keep our freedom. If you have problem with it Go to Muslim countries there you have all the freedom you want you will be happy there and we will be happy here
C'est vrai ou faux ?
He touched the girl or not?
He may call police, sent her to retention, but he can not inforce the law.
It's not about the law..the law is the law, but the school has no right to inforce it, to put hand on any student. He can call police to take her away.
Death threat is unacceptable bien sur. But, don't switch the subject!
what is wrong in
wearing a hijab.
What's wrong with not wearing it..?
@@stargazer3364 don’t you
encourage choice. Isn’t choice a women’s right if western values is so liberal. can’t imagine someone trying to invade my personal choice
It is a bout State Dictate that infringes on personal freedom of little girls based on their religion.
@@iq-ride9329 - Every state dictates.
Take a look how islamic states dictate.
Lastly, when/if you feel at home in a state that agrees and espouse your beliefs, such as wearing hijjab, then move there and be happy.
i just hope india would have positive outlook towards homosexuality like france
That’s a horrible idea. Allow civil unions. Yet in no uncertain terms should any society looking for long-term survival not unapologetically point out that it’s unnatural and not a net-benefit. If not, all they’ll do is open the door for every manner of degeneracy demanding to be protected and then promoted.
So what I understand from this video is that an boomer teacher physically harrased a student, and still the student is to blame? Wow
No since her case was formally dismissed by justice if anything all corroborated evidence points to her slandering a headmaster simply peacefully upholding the law she was found breaking as us taxpayers pay him to do.
Not exactly, the teacher demanded the student to comply with the rules and when the student refused he tried to evict her from the class, briefly touching with his hand her shoulder ( the actual testimonies ).The student posted online that the teacher was anti-Muslim and she was molested and her hijab forcefully removed ( she exaggerated the story) and evidently Muslim extremists started to menace the teacher and the school with beheading.
Asked that the French. They go around the world and preach personal freedom while they take it away from citizens specially Muslim women.
@@agalie7139 One story was grabbed her arm, this story is him touching with his hand her shoulder. Either stories are showing "Physical Assault. No need for anyone to touch anyone.
instead of suing the girl, they should target the cyber bullies. She stated her cause and as long as she didn't make the threats, she shouldn't be harassed.
@@iq-ride9329 the anti-Muslim thing was slander and she knew exactly what she was doing and where to post it. France already had a teacher beheading and another one stabbed to death...
In case of physical assault you press charges at the police station.
Another student complied with the rules but she was provocative.
130million people in pakistan cannot afford 2 meals a day
nobody cares about muslims
Laughing endlessly from India at the French and France24
We do it to your lot all the time! Hopefully you can visit Europe and experience the beautiful toilets and steeet sanitation 😆
@@EthanLomas Tell me you did not understand the comment without telling me you did not understand the comment low IQ.
with how the world is these days all of us face dying by violence, as is this interviewee insinuating for schools and people in them. we have terrifying events in relation to religion. banning hijab to me is a ridiculous thing to do as it is a part of the person itself. have they banned religious medals, etc? This is stigmatising and hurts the ones not able to wear the hijab, it is part of the person.
Why does a headscarf offend the French so much. I am not a Muslim I am a Christian and I do question.
Because it conveys a political message that the French republic is not willing to tolerate in an educational building. I think they are right, by the way.
its less of a religion thing...its more like " dont tell me what to do"....on one hand french society tells "dont tell me what to do" to the teenagers and then doing the same...its kinda like flip side of taliban....signed them up before admission that veils are not allowed
It is about State Dictate that infringes on personal freedom of little girls based on their religion.
The Catholic century. It's here. And it's deep
Pray for the people of France. The Church is not doing well.
They catholics century????
I didnt understand.
Could you explain , please?
This is one of those news stories where there is basically nobody to respect.
1) What rule was being broken by the student? Is there some terribly important dress code? What is the rationale behind the dress code?
2) Obviously nobody should be threatening anybody over this
3) There seems to be no discussion of evidence. What evidence do the students provide that the teacher was violent?
4) Having a secular form of government doesn't imply enforcing lack of religious belief. It implies neutrality on matters of religion. Even Christopher Hitchens, who described himself as anti-theist, would not have supported legally enforced atheism.
5) This professor being interviewed, when he talks about freedom being viewed by the students as very "individual" is describing freedom. Then he implies there is some other kind of freedom, which involves forming groups and voting. That's called democracy. Democracy is a system which often provides freedom, but it isn't synonymous with freedom. Freedom is that scary ability of people to form opinions individually, even to isolate and think out your own philosophy, even if nobody else holds it. In fact that is the most important part of freedom; the ability to protect individuals with outlandish ideas that everybody else considers taboo or insane. Freedom isn't about being with a big group, and thinking the same thing as the group. By that definition North Korea is amazingly free. It's about the individual. It's clear that France has a strong pro-labor mentality, but has completely lost track of understanding freedom.
Investigation concluded that the Teacher physically handled her at her shoulder, while she claimed he grabbed her arm. In the U.S., this is considered a physical assault, even if it didn't cause injury.
go to school and teach leave alone students with their religions
Why not asked zainest also