Pursuing Optical Perfection. The Tangent Theta 525 Professional
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TT does offer locking Turrets on this scope. I neglected to mention that in the review. The feature looks really cool and something that I will love to try out next time. • Tangent Theta 5-25x56m...
There is a quote in the latest PRB post about what scopes the professional shooters use in regards to the TT 525P. It sums up what this scope is like very well. precisionrifleblog.com/2024/0...
This scope is what one gets when they are looking to be on the bleeding edge of optical and mechanical perfection when it comes to rifle scopes. It is a Holy grail scope to me as a result. It is so wildly expensive and that alone adds that 2nd kind of cool. However this scope is far more then pricey and cool. It flat out performs everything extremely well. I can honestly say that this never failed to impress me. I still have some minor nit picks, but beyond them its hard to fault.
#fpr #firstpersonshooter #hpvo #Tangenttheta
00:00 - Physical Overview
16:19 - Reticle Overview
18:40 - Turret Twistin'
19:25 - Tracking Test
23:17 - Rooftop Day
26:08 - Eyebox
30:20 - 1ky +10 mils
32:20 - Low Light Testing
34:58 - Comparison - Minox ZP5 5-25x56
37:59 - Comparison - ZCO 4-20x50
40:11 - Comparison - Vortex RHD G3 6-36x56
43:12 - Comparison - Bushnell MPED 6-30x56
44:49 - Final Thoughts
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He's done it! He's reached the peak! 🗻
It's all down hill from here!
Haha i don't know. That new Schmidt bender 6-36 with the new turrets it pretty dope looking too. Time will tell
Oh man, I can literally feel the turret clicks in my soul
My sphincter winks with every click I hear.
I don't know if i'll ever be able to afford a scope like this, whether i really will ever need to based on skill level, or if i'll even want to based on my interests in the future. But i know that i am interested in buying scopes that i can afford. This video and channel is demystifying scopes and their nuance which is what helps me understand what i want/need to buy. Reviewing this scope, regardless of price, is still helpful and enlightening to that end. So don't feel like you're doing a disservice at all, my reason for watching your channel is because you do the best job i've seen in reviewing scopes and explaining their function and providing the terminology to explain the performance. I can now put to words what i'm seeing through scopes, whereas before, i was just sort of staring not even know what i was seeing.
You honor me. Thank you. I want to give every scope the same level of indepth review as I can. And even if you mute my videos. One should still be able to get a idea of how it would stack up against other scopes. I go from this scope. To a $300 scope for my next release. I love being able to cover all of the bases. Because I know there are so many out there that can't afford only premium stuff. Which is something I can absolutely understand.
Tangent Theta is the Rolex of rifle scopes.
That is a fair comparison
except you can probably actually buy one for MSRP
@@CDOESI wish all scopes were like this and cheap😂
Great video man !!!
Much obliged Joe !
Didn't know the goat Joe hung around here! badass
when will you be reviewing this Joe? Or the 6-36 vortex razor since ur vortex fanboy?
I have a 2 s&b pm2’s, 4 nightforce atacrs, leupold mk 5, 6, and 8, minox zp5, kahles, steiner m5, a zco 5-27x56 and my zco was my favorite scope.. then I got my hands on a tangent theta 5-25x56.. its not just a little but better than the zco and all my other high end optics… it’s astonishingly better than all my other optics and its crazy to me how its literally in its own class. I move it exclusively around my rifles based on what competition I am shooting month to month. I really can’t describe how much better it is, it’s something you just have to see for yourself and utilize. The glass, the turrets, literally everything.
@@some_random_guy_1414 👌
Thank you for giving us a feature length review on this well deserving optic. I got the opportunity to buy one of these used for an excellent price. Honestly, after a lot of use, I would pay full MSRP for another.
High praise, for a high performance optic
Fantastic presentation, again. Keep up the good work. Best riflescope review channel! Cheers from Denmark.
Greetings!
This is hands down the nicest scope I have ever seen or touched. I asked the guy at my local camera/optics store to see it but told him I had no intention of buying it...he got all giddy and said 'Oh man you HAVE to see this" and went and got it. (I think he wanted to play with it too) He gave me a quick "you drop it you bought it" speech and outside we went. My exact words were..."F*CK ME!"
The glass and turrets are basically unbeatable. Stellar in every way.
As always, great review.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to have the same experience with it.
Thank you, sir.
Your attention to detail i s appreciated, somewhat rare from what I can find here on yt.
I aim to please.
recently found your channel but your scope comparison reviews are miles ahead compared to other youtubers and i watch all of them when it comes to scopes
Much obliged, mate. Happy to help
Yes! So glad you got your hands on the Theta
Hopefully the first of many
This is awesome! I mounted a used 3-15 TT on my 7 prc last week. Only had to the range once but i zero’d and shot to 1350yds in 17 rounds on a brand new gun and scope with the help of a Garmin xero.
Nice. I can only imagine how nice the 3-15 is. What reticle do you have, and how does it seem in the lower magnifications?
Mine is the mildot. This is my NA big game gun. It works great at low mag. The illum has the same problem as you were saying with not daylight bright but perfect in twilight hours. I was taken back by how clear it was out to a mile. In general, i run MK5s and NF ATACRs but i found this one on a deal for about the same price as an ATACR so i figured why not.
I have to say to you a very warm and huge thank you!! I have watched several of your videos and I find them quite helpful and useful. Especially from the price point vs practically usage. I have many, many scopes of all different kinds and prices and although I’ve used them I actually still watch your review to see if it matches my experience. To be completely honest and fair they have 95%-98%. To that point I ordered 2 MPED’s for a couple of builds I have. I’ve come to trust your reviews THAT much!!
Damned good review, and extremly thorough!
I aim to please
That's the most beautiful reticle image I've ever seen. Unreal.
It sure is something else
Absolutely thrilled that these higher magnification optics are an option, but honestly, I find the 2-15, 2-12, 3-15, 3-18 optics to be far more usable. Even the high end US optics line, I find that that wide of a range of magnification, the same problem we find with a 1-10 lpvo, or even a 1-8 seems to be present. Either the low end isn't usable due to being too fine, or the high end of the magnification isn't usable due to the reticle getting too fat, and the eye box getting too tight. I suppose unless you're willing to sacrifice the first focal plane, then you can eliminate the fatness, or thinness of the reticle with a second focal plane variant. Awesome review as always brother. God bless you and yours.
Try the Z8i Swaro 2FP range... there are NONE of those real painful issues you speak of about other US (some from Japan, forget about Chinese crap) brands.
I took find the lower mpvo's to be the sweet spot. And you are correct. Finding the balance between reticle scaling and magnification range is challenging even in the best of times.
@@CDOES agreed. And besides, it's fun to go some place special and shoot beyond 1000 yards. But if I'm being totally honest, I really don't have a need to be able to shoot past a max of 600. Where I'm located in VA, you would be hard pressed to find an area where you can see past 600 yards, and I have found that the mpvos absolutely get it done. And, they are lighter, and in most cases cheaper, but every bit as robust and reliable.... Ounces equal pounds and pounds equal death.
I can't afford this. I'm letting you know for the algorithm ;) but on a serious note, I love any of your reviews regardless if I can afford the optic or not! I just love all the info and I like to see where that extra money went! Keep up the awesome work man
Much obliged, mate!
I'd also love to see a review done on the Mavin RS1.2 2.5-15x44. Focus Tripp did a review on it and was very positive, but he doesn't go into depth the way you do. I'd love to see how it compares to others in that range. I hope one comes across your table sometime soon.
I adore my Razor HD Gen2 3-18, which now has scratches all over it from falling over onto cement and rocks and damn near everything else; has hardly any chromatic aberration which is what distracts my eye, but this thing had nothing.
I miss my rhd ii 3-18 sometimes. If it was 35oz or less I never would have sold it. This is just that 10% better.
If vortex would have made the razor gen3 turrets just like the tangent theta’s… I would have already bought one. I hate push pull style locking turrets. The theta is still on my bucket list but unfortunately I have at least another year of saving up to get it. Thank you for the awesome review!
Different strokes for different folks, and different markets. Maybe we'll get lucky and see a change to the razor line up in the future.
Hey C_DOES! You need to take a look at the Monstrum Pro Series 7075 Aluminum Scope Mount. It's $40 MSRP, cheaper on sale, it 7075, comes in 1", 30mm, and 34mm. No 1990's inner ring tape like Swampfox. Roughly 4.75 OZ... This might kill the UTG for the budget king, and might punch above it's weight class since a lot of name brand mounts are still bubble gum soft 6061, for some unknown reason. Maybe you'll tear it apart an it'll be junk, but for $40 or less, I'd say it's worth reviewing.
As an owner of 3 TTs, 2 5-25P and a 3-15 LRH, DO NOT remove the cap to adjust/zero. You loosen the cap max around 5 turns to lift and rotate. This prevents getting any contamination inside the Turret.
👌 food to know. I had to take it off to show case the internals. I couldn't help myself.
When you start to get into that kind of clarity. I honestly think you should start looking into thermal scopes
Laser eyes
I would love to see you review the Hawke Frontier 34 ! Great scope no one ever talk about :(
Gold content
Are you my long lost CZcams twin?
@@CDOES haha bro I never even made that connection before. But yes I will be your c-brother
Awesome review, only question is when is the S&B 3-20 US review? cause I am in the market and would like to see your breakdown. Thanks for all the vids one of my favorite channels by far
Thank you for the kind words. I was less than impressed with the chromatic aberration when I got to peak through a ultra short awhile ago. I heard the s&B's are all about their internal construction. Not just their glass. Time spent behind one would be needed to determine more.
Oh boy. You have really done it. I have a scope addiction problem. Was thinking ZCO. Now. I’m confused.
At this level it's probably all about going with what offers the features you want.
Great review. Just want turn up the contrast on your vehicle comparison. A Rolls-Royce or Maybach Mercedes-Benz are hugely expensive vehicles in which the finest materials and skilled craftsman are used to produce a perfect product. Like this scope this is the recipe for perfection. No consideration is given concerning cost. On other hand there is a choice to go with excellence which is seeking optimal performance with a jaundice eye towards cost. Lexus produces an exceptional vehicle that will outperform the more expensive brands in terms of quality. I suspect that there are a lot of excellent options out there that meet the standard of delivering an excellent product at a fair price. That is why I watch this channel to see how far I can stretch my budget to get the most bang for the buck!
Very valid point. After awhile some people find what works best for them and goes with it. Someone's a Lexus is all a potential rolls owner really needs and wants. Even if he can buy whatever under the sun.
45:20 when you focus back to the snow flakes ❄️
would love to see you take a look at the VectorOptics continental 1-6
The tt and the zp5 have more in common than even they would like like to admit haha. Same engineers damn near the same scope. It’s basically a tweaked zp5 or a premier reticles 5-25 with better machining. Their work goes all the way back to the pmii 5-25. A good working zp5 is amount 95% of the performance for alot less cash. Love mine. Sad you had a dud, and yes their warranty isn’t the best. Blaser, the owner of minox isn’t the best company to deal with. B&h photo orders the zp5 for 2700 and some change. Good video. Kinda why there is alot of scope body on the tt. It’s just because it’s a dated design, be it a very nice one.
The reason TT and Minox ZP5 are so similar is they are both based on the Premier Heritage scope.
I am not surprised by this
@@CDOES and if I recall correctly Tangent Theta actually bought Premier Reticles in 2014 so its basically the direct continuation of the Heritage scope.
I think i will buy 10 Arken Ep5 scopes with 6k and be very happy . Fantastic scope and excellend review my favorite channel now is CDoes
Ain't nothing wrong with that. If it floats your boat, run it
I would love to see a review of a S&B. I've got one of their hunting scopes and really enjoy the glass on it
A pmii would really fill a void in this space. Hopefully one day
"If you don't spend your money uncle sam will" FACTS!!!
I speak them as frequently as I can.
I want one bad
ATI's warranty fulfillment is phenomenal, but ironically, the 525p is the only scope I've ever had to have warranty work on...
Fascinating! What happened to it?
@@CDOES dust or debris visible inside the ocular after about a year of use. They paid for a label and had it back in a week, really excellent.
I wonder how this compares to a schmit & bender 5-25, my buddy has one and it's the best glass I've ever looked through.
Hopefully I'll be able to find out for us.
Could you do a review of the Scmidt & Bender 3-20 PM II Ultra Short scope? It’s on the same spectrum of scopes as the one you did in this video. Now because of your video, I’m considering the TT 3-15x.
From what I read the non-ultrashort version is actually one of schmidt's absolute top scopes in all optical ways. Because being short makes eyeboxes tighter and depth of field shorter. That said the ultrashort version is probably still a dope scope. I personally find the ffp reticles absolutely useless in high mag range scopes above 4x on ALL the top brands because on the low end they become invisible. For that reason my favorite scopes I'm interested in are the S&B ultrashort 5-20x50 and the new S&B 6-36×56.
I really wanted the 3-20×50 non-ultrashort but the reticles get too thin on the low end below 5x anyways
Was that bomb shell about the ZCO optic new??
Your unboxing table top is sooooo giving my lock pikcing lawyer vibes lol. But it is nice to see how the other half lives once in a while!
It's not the first time I've heard that comparison. I wish my channel was as big as his.
Nope not curious, catch ya on the vortex review!
At this level, you are really splitting hairs. For competition scopes I would prefer a ZCO over the Tangent. For duty use, I would prefer a S&B. Having said that, I absolutely would not be surprised if other people reversed the order or preferred other high end optics. Really good scope and really good company in terms of quality customer service.
It completely comes down to personal preference between many of these scopes like you said. I wouldn't be able to make a decision easily if I was in that situation.
I also prefer ZCO to Tangent, prefer the image and reticles. TT turrets are def better though, ZCO turrets suck in comparison.
I am sorry man, I have to disagree with you. I own all 3 of the optics you referenced. 2 s&b pm2’s, 1 zco 5-27, and 1 tangent 5-25 and for all shooting needs the tangent stand above the rest. The tangent is in use with military special operations, and top competition shooters mount them on their 6mm wiz bang 25lb rifles. The image and tracking is just outstanding… i haven’t thought about my zco really at all since I came into my tangent.. it’s just sitting there at this point. For the cost yes, go with a zco because another thousand dollars or two is not worth it for most when considering. But in my opinion the image is that much better to my eye than my zco.
@@some_random_guy_1414 It is why I said it is subjective. TT makes a really high quality optic. In usually comes down to user preference.
@@some_random_guy_1414 fair enough! Everyone has their preference
is it better than a schmidt and bender?
Yes, significantly. I have both the tangent and a s&b pm2
If I haven’t heard of it is either new Chinesium or I can’t afford it
I was trying to recommend your channel to someone in another channels comments. Long story short I tried replying to a post multiple times none of them made it to the comments.
I’m just curious is there a way that a channels can curate their comments before they even get posted.
I’m vert curious why I was unable to recommend your channel.
march 8-80 f-class when?
Probably never lol f class shooters aren't known for swapping out optics like that enough for me to grab it for a month or two.
As nice as it is, for that price it should literally be perfect. Every minor nitpick is a glaring issue when you’re charging over $5,000 for a scope.
C….does
And they have a lifetime warranty.....whether or not they cover stupid like vortex....not sure...
But still good to know when your spending that much....
My question is why do I see some people using them then moving on to something else?
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it sucks because its exactly what im looking for when it comes to an all around hunting optic. their 3-15….no way in hell will i spend this money tho 😂
Muh arken ep5 is just as gud
👌 lol
For $6K your EP5 can bring 9 of his brothers with him lol
just buy used and its only 4100 :)
I paid that for a new one when they first came out... Glad I got in when I did!
Used is always another option!
@@bforney1984 lucky basdid lol
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I appreciate this and the ZCO to at least see what's available on the top end.
For 4500 (euro optic) bucks I expect a reach around as it exfoliates my wallet........... Since it doesn't, I'll have to pass.
I'm sure you could buy a lot of reach around for this kinda money
Stop watching after the price tag 👍🏻
You could also just enjoy a video on the finer things in life.
@@taylormartin4346 👌a man of class I see
Nah. Underwhelming. Kinda florid on the superlatives in this review.
Wow, only 5,800.00.000?
So tempting.
C_Does did it again, only more betterer thus yet.
Next well be talking about the car that you'll need to buy before you can drive yourself to go pick up the scope.
Thank you for giving us a feature length review on this well deserving optic. I got the opportunity to buy one of these used for an excellent price. Honestly, after a lot of use, I would pay full MSRP for another.