Katrina’s Story: Psych Drug Withdrawal Causes Depression
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- čas přidán 26. 03. 2020
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Withdrawal is definately worse than your initial condition before you took them.
Agreeing 100%. Of course, not 1 single medical professional out of 6-7 i saw ever warned of this, or any 'side 'effects / withdrawal at all. This really is something only people power can resolve.
Big facts
If you think withdrawals from SSRIs and SNRIs are bad, definitely don’t get into opioids or benzos! Withdrawing from IV heroin and valium caused me to almost die, it took nearly 2 years to get back to what I would consider ~85% of “normal” - like with no sensory input problems, tremors, lightning shocks, hearing & vision issues, etc. I am much better now, it’s been over 5 years.
@@clausmehl8731 I disagree. I started on 20mg of Celexa (Citalopram) almost 6 years ago and it allowed me to get my life back. I’m tapering off now, at 5mg doseage currently. I have felt zero withdrawal symptoms thus far. I think the key is to do it as slowly as possible. I wish the pharma companies would have more dosages available though, for an easier taper, rather than having to chop the pills up yourself, into little tiny fragments.
Not always!
Some people don't even experience withdrawal
It feels like you lose years while on them, it's like being a different person
Sounds like my achieving Girl.
It is like, you are not really sure about the person you were. It seems like you are two difference people.
Feels like I've woke up out of a coma after 10 years . I know have to deal with the consequences of my actions and decisions I made while on them, it's horrifying 😳
@@Humbledone. absolutely horrifying
Thats exactly how I feel!
Thank you for your testimony. I have been on Paxil for over 10 years. I have tried different ways to ween off. Each time, I fail. The depression, anxiety, panic attacks, suicidal thoughts etc are so overwhelming. Rack time, I had to go right back on them. You are very lucky to have your mom to support you. When the Dr. Was saying that chickens don't know about the side effects I thought, " That's bs! They know!" The only one who can heal is the Lord. Let's pray and wait on HIM. THANK YOU
A very solid representation of the disturbing phenomena that is psychiatric drug use. I know the void she lives in. It’s like being disconnected from reality.
Exactly… different on the meds, before ever taking meds, and when ur off the meds
Pray to Shiva all will bewell
Please anyone who reads this look into benfotiamine and ttfd, they repair nerve damage in the body. Ttfd for the brain and benfotiamine for the body. I also started taking lithium oratate for the darkness. They're all natural substances
@@rudyferrelldoes it really repair the brain
@Slidehhy yes. It repairs the myelin sheeth around the nerves also. I'm thinking that benzos do a lot of damage to the nerves in that way. Research it. It takes a while for it to work, months , so don't expect relief fast. It helped me. Benfotiamine is awesome, but ttfd gets into the brain more. I use both. It needs to be taken with magnesium (magnesium citrate) and vitamin d3. Look into choline also. I don't take it, but it seems to repair the brain also.
I saw this video a couple years ago but it hits me really hard. I hope and pray she is doing better. I was put on them for the exact same reasons she was with OCD and anxiety. I've been on them for 22 years. In a way it feels like it takes a chunk of your life. You feel "less then human". Only my faith in God keeps me going. Things need to change but it feels like a kite dancing in a hurricane. The entire industry needs to be investigated top down. Conflicts of interest, studies that are biased and so many issues plague the Psychiatric field. There needs to be accountability. It's sickening.
Its all fraud. They are criminals. Governments fund and support them for their financial interests.
Thank God for an educated doctor. We need more like her.
May God bless her.
These drugs made me completely dysfunctional most of my adult life and sent me on a downward spiral. Getting off them is hell.
I hope you are doing better today. I’m going through this now and just want out of this life
@@Snow-of-the-Artic I'm healing, better than I was a year ago. I came off a bunch of stuff way too fast at the beginning of covid. I've been tapering off gabapentin too which is difficult by itself. I'm down to 300mg/day, was once on 3600mg/day, so that's an improvement. Just don't give up, keep pushing through it, if you need to cut your dose and stay there for awhile that's ok. What are you trying to get off of? Do you use any support groups or anything?
After ALL the antidepressants that my doctor doled out from the age of 11 to 41, I truly believe more damage was done than anything. After taking Cymbalta 3 1/2 years, I took myself off.
Horrible withdrawal
Chad how r u now
@@cultofmara how r u now did u feel depersonalization in ur withdrawwal please ans I m 142 days sober now
How are you Chad? I’m 3.7 years PAWS and currently experiencing a “wave”. It’s a crazy drug that damages so many people’s brain and body. My Doctor hasn’t taken responsibility for his fast taper plan and would never mentioned Withdrawals past two weeks. It’s the uneducated Doctors that are causing the increase in suicide. Tough to accept 😣
@@brendansmyth5053 hang in there! I'm doing better but it took a year before those "waves" finally went away. The first months I was depressed and felt like I didn't have any energy. So I decided to quit smoking cigarettes and start exercising a lot more by taking walks and riding my bicycle. After two months I actually started feeling much better. Sometimes I would get a little down but I just kept turning back to exercise which really helped kick in the natural endorphins. After three months I actually started feeling a high after exercise. I quit caffeine and stuck with water and juice.
It really works and I recommend it. You'll know you're feeling better soon because you'll want to exercise more and more.
@@allthingsbegin thanks Chad. Yeah the first year was the toughest. I exercise every day, eat well, drink a lot of water and quit alcohol 5 years ago before I decided to take this journey. I’m back to doing the things around the house and feel 20 years younger since being off that nasty crap. It’s been a wild ride and the waves are few far between and improving every month/years. I couldn’t have done it without my partner and kids. Thanks again for the kind words. look after yourself. Love and peace from Australia 🇦🇺
Doctors say "don't do drugs!" Then they turn around and dish out 30 new prescriptions of LEGAL DRUGS
@C - Well, what would you suggest to patient who has come to you with their life destroyed by depression, who is broke & barely hanging onto life?
Exactly.." Don't do illegal drugs - do our drugs" - which are every bit as bad and in many cases worse ..plus they lie to you telling you they aren't addictive and when you have severe withdrawal they say its just the return of your initial complaint and you need to go back on their poison
@@montesa9136 if that's your last resort I feel bad for you because shrooms and lsd cure depression way better than these poisons they're pushing
@@justinebourke9449 @Justine Bourke - What you say is true, but street drugs are MUCH worse! How do you think all these MILLIONS of people living on the street got there?
@@montesa9136 many reasons why people living on the streets become homeless, all stems from traumatic events really, . Some get homeless from drug use, for others the misery of homelessness starts them on substance abuse. Many have been through the psychiatric system first. Yes, Street drugs are bad. Psych drugs are bad..all drugs cause trouble.
Empathise with everything... Similar story... On Zoloft for 6 years... Multiple failed withdraw efforts... Trapped... Criminal psychiatry.... Only a miracle from God can take me out of these drugs.
Che 13 how r u now
I’ve been crying out to god to help me wean off of Zyprexa. I need a supernatural miracle bc I want off of this stuff. I’m only on 5mg and can’t seem to cut down to 2.5 successfully without insane side effects. This is truly one of the hardest things I’ve been through and I’ve only be on this drug a little over a year due to covid.
Vile isn't it
@@Humbledone. Yup.
@@billybandyk0720 sorry🙏 what's your story ?
2 years off all medicine. It was hard but i weathered through it.
How did you do it?
Going through this withdrawal process after 20 years of just idling on Antis, at the moment. Unfortunately, fellow anxiety sufferers, I think we have been abused by this system. If our brains are like a garden of sensitive flowers, this system just poured concrete all our gardens. I wish I could sue; but it's a systemic issue drug companies, and their relationship with pharmaceuticals. Will we ever get any form of restitution? Probably not.
@Mark Eric - I'm the same as you. I would gladly accepted all damages I received from all the years on psychotropic medication for tens of millions of dollars .....
What did you mean reverted back to a child? Age Regression Syndrome? I m asking bc i think i am seeing it in a friend; who is coming off of SSRI’s. Thank you
@@montesa9136 That's crazy. There is no amount of money that I would accept to go through the hell of antidepressant withdrawal.
I was really healthy and in shape
medications have seriously ruined my health and I became way more depressed when I went on meds.
I took mitazapine quetiapine hydroxyzine suboxone and weed at once and gained like 75 lbs in 2-3 months
Permanent stretch marks because it was too fast and my grandpa kept buying me McDonald’s everyday.
Same😢
The best antidepressants has two wheels and pedals especially in surroundings with a lot of green. I think one of the biggest problems with psychiatric dugs is that they lower dopamine levels.
Green ? You mean weed?
You are absoolutely right with that! A bicycle and beautiful varied rolling countryside. Not everyone has the luxury of this around them - but for sure beats pills. Need social connection, and not just competition though as well (or at least you need your head in the right place enough, so that you actually crave a little competition to help you be at your best).
Thank you for exposing the sad truth of these drugs that are literally dished out to us like lollies. 🙏🙏
I'm 2 months into tappering off of Paxil after being on it for 23 years! I spent a year inadvertently prepping for this taper by learning kundalini meditation, breathing techniques, journaling, etc. I'm using supplements to aid in the taper. It's tough but I'm determined to take back my power and improve my life. Sending strength to anyone who is suffering. 💪🙏
Please are you sure you want to stop, tapering AD does not necessarily make you avoid intense withdrawal suffering. Sometimes the modifications that happened in the brain are so profound that even tapering doesn’t make it easier
@@jcvd9567 From the many people I've met within the withdrawal community, I would argue that for many people, healing is possible.
Personally, regarding the effectiveness of my taper, who the hell knows! But at this point, I'd rather die trying. Ive tapered unsuccessfully in the past so I'm so stranger to horrible withdrawal experiences.
This taper is by far my most successful but I'm also throwing the kitchen sink at it. I'm going slow, I've changed my diet and did a gut health regimen, I'm taking a lot supplements that encourage neurological growth, I've been practicing kundalini meditation and yoga, etc.
There's lot of fear and uncertainty around psych meds and that's partly why I'm coming off. If I crash and burn, I'll ride that wave to the best of my ability. That's really all any of us can do!
@@cowboyjohnsontown Thanks for writing such an empowering comment. I really needed to read it as I’m having a terrible time attempting to taper off of Zyprexa. I’m on 5mg have been for a little over a year and can’t seem to consistently take less without crazy side effects.
@@ShadaeMastersAstrology ugh, I'm so sorry to hear you're having a difficult time coming off. From everything I've read, it's best to go slow and steady in your taper. For instance, I was on 40mg/day of Paroxetine and now after 6 months of tappering, I'm at 16mg/day. Please be gentle with yourself. Time is your best friend, but there are other things you can do to help reduce the severity of the side effects of withdrawal.
This is just my personal experience, but here are some things that have helped me in my taper:
-Try to eat "clean" foods that your system can easily process (lots of fresh veggies/fruits/nutes/organic meats). Avoid daily and gluten and drink lots of water.
-try to move a bit every day. Going on walks, yoga (a wonderful way to reduce anxiety and "reconnect" with yourself), dancing, stretching, etc.
- implementing a meditation practice (or some type of spirituality/prayer practice)
-Talking to a loved one really helps. Someone who will simply listen or validate your feelings is incredibly healing
-avoid negative people, situations, or media. As much as your able to, recognize that your nervous system is sensitive right now.
Be kind and patient with yourself. You are not broken. You may have some trauma or hurt that needs to be addressed, but that is a very separate thing from the physical and psychological dependence we develop while on these medications.
I also recommend Will Hall's fantastic (and free) Guide to Harm Reduction pdf. You can find it online and it's a great resource for coming off psych drugs.
My best to you and your healing!
@@ShadaeMastersAstrology also, I should add: I'm coming off of an SSRI, not an antipsychotic like Zyprexa. I just want to clarify since different classes of psych drugs act a bit differently. Again, using Will Hall or Heather Ashton's model, it would recommended that you first taper by 10%. Meaning, you would first taper from 5mg to 4.5 and stay there for 4 or so weeks before determining to drop to 4.1mg, then 3.7mg, etc. 10% (or so) drops at a time.
Also, I'm working with a doctor who is well-versed in helping people come off of drugs. I ended up leaving my psychiatrist and working with LaValle Metabolic Code. They're able to both prescribe me a liquid version of my meds as well as set me up with some supplements that have helped ease some symptoms as well as encourage new neuro growth. I'm not sure if Zyprexa comes in a liquid form or not but itd be worth asking. If not, your doctor does have the option of reaching out to a compounding pharmacy. It's more expensive, but a compound pharmacy may be able to get you smaller (but accurate) dosages.
I went on fluoxatine (prozac) for anxiety. After a few years I decided I wanted to get off of it. I was only on 10 mg so I just stopped. I was never told anything about the importance of tampering and learned the hard way. My anxiety ramped up over a 25-30 day period culminating in a horrid dark night of the soul where I wanted to leave my family because of the discontinuation symptoms. It was horrible and I feel terrible for my poor kids having to deal with all that. I now supplement with 5-htp and feel great. I am now a big believer in natural remedies and I won't touch those things again.
What's htp?
Tryptophan supplement
my story is somehow same to yours been on Fluoxetine and after 3 years i left it and it made me suffer to much and now seeking help from people who had same issues. and can you please help me about supliment?
Yeah I'm about the natural supplements also. I started taking benfotimine and ttfd to repair the nerves and I take lithium oratate also, it helps with the darkness
@@rudyferrellwhat darkness
I just had nausea 🙏 and now I’m facing the recovery of my life.
I would choose death rather than go back on antidepressants.
Yes. Yes. Yes. I have said this to my husband already. No matter how bad it gets, it will never EVER be bad enough for me to take the meds / drugs again.
@@orangesnowflake3769 really? did u have numbness emitional numbness sexual numbness?
I would recommend to search a doctor that can help you to taper off very gradually and if it is possible follow a protocol and nutrition special for withdraw symptoms. Www.withdrawalresearch.org
@@billyharriton7130 it's a well known side effect
death is better .... you dont suffer
I dnt take pills after 20 years of being on antidepressants. 9 months off of them. I have trouble with anxiety and insomnia. The withdrawls were tormenting. If i wouldve known all of this i would have never taken them in 02.
They hand these meds out like candy, especially to women. I am currently tapering off one that when I looked it up is one of the most difficult to get off of. I feel terrible all the time. I really hope it all changes when it ends completely.
I know how you feel 🥹 It’s taken me 18 months to get down from 20mg to 1mg and it does get easier with time. It’s important to go slowly - drops of no more than 10% to begin with, but at the lower levels, 5% is best (as low doses affect the brain much more strongly). Good luck, keep going, you’ll get there. If ever in doubt, research neuroplasticity ❤️
@@skippy7208 I am completely off it now! Sometimes I wish I was still on it but, just take it day by day.
@@Foreverenpointe brilliant, well done you! Don’t go back, even if you get symptoms, you’ll still recover 🙏
U have social media ??
Sounds like my story but with an antipsychotic
These drugs need to be removed from the market. People need therapy and support groups and friends. These drugs cause heart disease and metabolic syndrome.
Yes they do! I have 15 serious medical conditions form long term use. Sadly, the meds have been the only thing that was able to help me
You are right. I got seroquel from my family doctor I took it for 6 years and now I am off but I got a heart problem from it. I know have to take heart and blood pressure medication.
@Wednesday's Child - What you say is true, however, talk therapy is not covered by medical insurance, & it is CRAZY EXPENSIVE, long winded, & has a dismal success rate. Someone who has serious depression does not have friends. At the end of the day, medication is all that's practical, but it does come with serious side effects
72 year old male. On and off these psych meds for 40 years. I’m off for the last time. Lethargic, constant brain zaps, don’t want to do anything. Going back on the drugs, however, does not relieve the symptoms as you might think.
I’m following the path of. Laura Delano who is successful in this approach.
Her last words are so on point.
You can get off them. Many many people did it. Don't loose hope!
EDIT: Coming back here after three years. You must be 100% WILLING to get off them.
I have met people on these pills who clearly don't want to put in the effort and won't go through that pain. Without criticizing this girl, I feel like she doesn't WANT to get off them.
...and many people cannot get off them.Its worse than you think.
@Jack-hy1zq why do you say that?
I disagree! Everyone’s individual experience is different and everyone’s limitations are too. Every person has to do what’s best for their wellbeing. You cannot judge someone else’s choices. Everyone’s journey through this is totally their own.
What an idiotic statement. You obviously didn't suffer even a fraction of what some of us have gone through.
This is awful news because 20 years ago I was told I had the chemical imbalance and was sworn to that AD's were not at all addictive. I did not want to on them if they were addictive, I was un-assuredly told they were not addictive. Now I find out two decades layer, they are and your brain quickly become dependant to them and trying to get off can be extremely difficult. I am gutted as I am half way through a 3 + year taper off Benzo's let alone try and get off the AD. What i actually needed was a sh*t load of support. The drug companies are to blame bottom line. They fed the Dr's a line, and the Dr's in turn fed that line to their patients, that was a lie, or complete ignorance. And while we all suffer in the most awful of ways, they sail around the world on their super yachts.
The psychiatrists know. They have over 60 years experience with these drugs. They are criminals and turn normal people into patients for profits.
I am currently tapering Lexapro and it is brutal. I hope I heal completely with time. I feel robbed.
Research benfotiamine and ttfd. They help with healing the brain. What have you got to lose?
Do you have social media or any way I can reach you
Thank you for your story.
The sad part is that for those that have taken these antidepressants for many years to decades they are the ones that are stuck on them for life otherwise they face many years of debilitating withdrawal symptoms including depression which is evidence these antidepressants addict the brain to the chemical formulations.
Thanks for sharing. So true, so true.
I've successfully tapered off clonazepam after being prescribed it for 23 years.
Congratulations! How do you feel?
@@MedicatingNormal I feel great! I was cut off cold once n had a seizure my vision is impaired from it..
@@NoName-pu5ls I have visual impairment from it too! Can you say more about what your vision is like?
@@MedicatingNormal I was hoping my vision would return but it just gets worse..occipital nerve damage is what optometrists says? From hitting my head when I fell cause of seizure, but since the trauma of doctors I don't trust anything they say because in my experience they deny BWS. The abrupt cessation of clonazepam caused it. My vision was fine before all that. Basically I can't see shit! N it pisses me off. Sorry for cursing 😊😥
@@NoName-pu5ls you curse all you want! I’ve been diagnosed with visual vertigo, visual snow syndrome, visual motion sensitivity, post-trauma vision syndrome, and strabismus. All of this from cold turkey of Ativan after 6 years but it was my 3rd cold turkey of a benzo. My story is in the film “Medicating Normal” the channel you are on!
That medication made me complacent unable to stick Up for myself
Yes, and as a result of this complacence, I submitted to unnecessary medical procedures (likely from issues caused by the drugs) and had organs removed from my body which I can never replace.
@@JanCarol11 I am sorry to hear that I was unable to protect my siblling from passing bescude of that medication
yes this is the statement i was looking for, stupid doctors did this to me. They told me to cold turkey and and shouted at me, i was unable to stick up for myself and fight back
Godbless this Holistic doctor
I believe this..I have experienced the side affects of a pretty heavy duty drug, only to be recommended alternatives that are possibly worse,& more side affects..suppressing of symptoms does not honestly make you better…it dulls..it adds to the issue..worse still it causes disorientation in your routine, your daily rest schedule and responsibilities…the best thing has been to look at these honest sources,research that is patient centred not based on big pharmaceutical companies that have major conflicts of interests..and worse still, the patients who get sick from their treatments..the lack of truth telling..and the subjugation…that is patients becoming stigmatised and suffering greatly as a result
I sought the Lord, and He answered me,
And delivered me from all my fears.
- Psalm 34:4
I agree to a point. I'm not saying that God can not work miracles, but there really are times when safe medical intervention is needed...much in the same manner if we had a compound fracture. I saw how pharmaceuticals literally destroyed my elderly parents, and I am carefully seeking wisdom about natural / botanical treatments to commonly prescribed maladies.
@@StonesAndSand Amen God works miracles through all things!
@@badromenful Could you cut it out please? 9/10 videos someone keeps posting something related to this.
@@cooldude8912 have a little faith !
@@badromenful No, don't tell me what to do. Not everyone needs to be bombarded with your spam.
i can relate your video helped me they are really horrible and doctors dont get it because they never been through it
Exactly. I told my dumbass doctors to do it themselves before prescribing out poisons to people and they just keep peddling the same old horse shit line "but it will help you" makes you want to jack them in the fucking face sometimes
Doctors have the book knowledge and the power, and the financial strength in their profession, without having been had their cognitive powers burned by the drugs. So many different types of trauma.
Day 6 off seroquel feeling depressed can’t sleep anxiety and muscle spasms hope it gets better soon
Hang in there. It's rough but can be done
I have added french subtitles and also corrected the english subtitles. I hope you can approve them. Thank you 😊
Thank you SO MUCH! I will go approve them right now. You are amazing!
Merci ! But I can't see them
Kind of sad to hear she went back on meds. Is she doing better any better now or has she tried to taper off again? I feel like I'm at that point too, after two years off benzos. Still feels like I'm going to lose everything.
We do heal, Keep your chin up and keep pushing forward. It all comes in windows and waves and over time symptoms fade away. It's never as fast as we want it to be when we are in the trenches. All we can do is try to cope with the hand we have been dealt until the symptoms fade away. I am recovered myself, I am Undiagnosed1 from Surviving Antidepressants. Stay strong my friend.
@@rizza7575 How long did it take you to recover?
Benzo tapers seem to take longer. Google for the Ashton Protocol. There's also BenzoBuddies and a channel on youtube called BenzoBrains.
Believe me benzos are not the worst thing. I took 6 years a heavy benzo. 1 pill works 40 hours. Together with that benzo I took 100 mg of seroquel. Only for a sleeping problem. 2 pills of the benzo staurodorm(flurazepam 27,4 mg) and 100 mg of Quetiapine(seroquel) every evening for 6 years. Staurodorm was taken out of business. So I was forced to quit cold turkey it was a hell and from my family doctor I must also quit with Quetiapine. It was a hell for me I had so heavy withdrawal symptoms. I couldn't sleep, had high blood pressure my heart rate was high and I got irregular heartbeat, nausea, sweating, diarree, dizziness. All together, hyperventilation. A true hell.
@@eviken1982 benzos change yohr cns . They affect your tolerance ro anxiety itself. You are free to believe you are God and immune
Do not see a psychiatrist/nurse practitioner at college! That's how I got tricked. Tell them to pound sand.
It’s been 6 days since I haven’t taken paxil. I stopped taking it because I had a panic attack half an hour after taking the medication so I decided to stop taking it altogether. Horrible withdrawal symptoms especially on day 4. I felt dizziness, lightheaded, these weird brain zaps, irritated all the time. It’s getting better now on day 6 but it’s such a pain lol but I can manage. I try to get my mind off these symptoms by meditating and exercising regularly and distracting myself with work or reading which helps but I just have to go through these withdrawals until it subsides only God knows when. I was prescribed these meds from developing panic attacks after taking the covid vaccine. I think I’m better now but now I have these withdrawal symptoms to deal with lol
Why didn't you taper off?
@@Urine666Deity I was afraid I might get a panic attack if I take it again so I decided to quit it completely. The withdrawals weren’t that bad actually I mean I felt it enough to recognize what’s happening to me but I can still go on my day to day life. It was just strong symptoms in the first week
@@nonamesite thank you, that's a relief
Oh man, big pharma screwed you around big time didn't they? Look into benfotiamine and ttfd, they helped me and they are a natural element. They rebuild the nerves in our bodies.
PSILOCYBIN MAGIC MUSHROOMS ARE MY HOPE ONCE I'M OFF THIS POISON. HALF WAY THERE MAN! IT'S TOUGH BUT IT CAN BE DONE. STAY STRONG
Have you tried them? I've been told I need to get off Cymbalta before trying them but I'm not interested in coming off so I'm going to try small dose first.
@@BananaPringle Have you tried the psilocybin yet? If so how was your experience?
I take shrooms and I'm currently tapering paxil after 26 years.. on 2mg from 20mg after several hellish unsuccessful attempts that left me at deaths door.
I know you're supposed to wait but I still feel they are helping me taper.
@@BananaPringleshrooms didn't help me, but the benfotiamine and ttfd did. Shrooms work for a lot of people, so I would most definitely try them if I were you.
Anyone know how Katrina is doing now?
I’m going through withdrawal now from sertraline. The side effects of this med were exactly like what this woman has described, and were ruining my marriage. Now tapering down I can’t even function emotionally. I’m preoccupied by thoughts that have ripped me down and is keeping me there at the bottom, no escape in sight. I’m worse now than I was before. I was put on sertraline for anxiety and didn’t have depression, but now I do and often think of ending it all, and I feel there is no way out. I wish I had never started this meditation. I wish I had been warned by my doctor. I just want this hell to end. I’m depressed, paranoid, constantly CONSTANTLY on the verge of crying. I’ve lost all hope. I hate myself and am now preoccupied with being abandoned. Do not take this med unless you don’t mind staying on it for life.
For me withdrawal is worse than hell itself
How are you now?
Better but it took me a long time to get of them no one told me about the withdrawal effects when a private hospital ripped them of
The reason I don’t see anything changing is because the situation with the pharmaceutical industry and its connection with lawmakers in this country seems similar to the connection between the NRA and lawmakers. Legislators in this country are benefiting too much from political contributions and so on from the pharmaceutical Industry just like they are from the NRA for example. So obviously they’re not going to pass any laws that are going to interfere with these Industries regardless of how many lives are destroyed by them.
He who has the money controls the narrative.
Is zopiclone a safe med for sleep?
This happened to me too when I was taken off a med too quickly. It was hell. Sleep wasn't a relief for me because I had nightmares, but it was the only option I had - so I'd sleep as much as I could so my family wouldn't suffer from the tantrums or outbursts I had. It.sucked.
Piri Carroll how you doing now?
Yeah please how did u go we all worried
Sam Sung hi are you on medication??
Aw, thank you for your interest. I'm better now, although I feel like i came out of it a completely different person. This happened in 2014. So the most intense period lasted for around 3 weeks. That was the part where I'd go to sleep throughout. After that I was trying to reintegrate back into life and carry on my mum duties (kids were teens thankfully as they're self reliant), most of all I wanted to carry on prepping for my studies that were about to start that year. Seemed like I was back on track. Then first day I was back at course and all of a sudden I couldn't handle allllll the people around me. That was definitely new as I'd been studying at the same place for 2 years prior. I left that day full of anger and frustration. I took exception to the people that talked during lectures, avoided crowded areas like the plague etc. I no longer wanted to converse with my fellow learners. I just wanted out. I had developed social anxiety which I still deal with. I'm no longer extroverted, I'd say I'm definitely introverted now. I have zero tolerance now for bullshit. I have all the tolerance for all living creatures no matter their size. I notice everything now. Everything. I can't help it. Even if I'm deep in conversation, my mind is actively noting everything in my visual field whether it's in the background or not. I'm not working anymore because of all these new "quirks". I have so much problem with focus it's both ridiculous and hilarious. I've learned to just let go and go with the flow (when I remember to lol). To sum it up, my brain has changed. I know this through my experiences since that time. I feel like I've got adhd predominantly inattentive, but when I told my therapist I was reminded that you have to be born with adhd. So that's where I'm at now. Still trying to find out what's wrong. Progress is slower than snails taking a Sunday stroll. Thanks for reading.
Piri Carroll that’s awesome that your doing better. What medications were you on ?? I’m on Sertraline 100mg,Risperidone 2mg,Lorazepam 0.5mg, and Trazodone for sleep.
I'm hopeful that one day the pharmaceutical companies will be held accountable. Getting billions of people dependant on their chemical drugs. As well as lying and manipulating.
How are you doing these days, Katrina?
How is she doing now?
So did she eventually tapper again and come off completely?
I'm in the same condition as her, and my ocd also seemed to get worse. So I don't know if I should get back to my medicine usual dosage.
Here is one resource that might help: www.survivingantidepressants.org/
@@MedicatingNormal thank you very much
When did you OCD start if I may ask have you heard of pandas disorders
I was on clonazepam for 21 years
I slowed taper in 2017 .
I was FULLY stop in late 2018
And today's October 12 2020
And I would have to say I don't know
If clonazepam can be Beat
This video is about 90 per cent
Right ... I enjoyed the video
Good luck and quitting. Benzos
I am still off today but a struggle
EVERY day but getting BETTER
Thank you ...
I dont know if it can either in many cases. I am one who will die without. Im so upset
Thank you 4 saying this. I needed to hear it bad
This channel is amazing, what happened to it?
After safe and effective and now this benzo apocalypse no one will ever trust MDs or Psychiatrist again. I know don’t give them blind trust anymore…
OMG im 15 years on Venlafaxin. I was misdiagnosed with bipolar. Im tapering of off of Effexor for 3 years and im depressed for 4 years. Is there any hope? I guess im brain damaged forever. Will i ever get out of this depression???
There are people who've been on longer than you and have come off successfully and gotten their lives back. facebook.com/groups/effexorsupportgroup
Search Peter Goetze and find peer support from people who have gone off psych drugs. There is always hope. Regards
@@MedicatingNormal - that group is the WORST! My first post I mentioned ketamine (yes I read the required reading but I was in Effexor withdrawals and got thought I was posting on a Ket group - they kicked me out - I apologized and explained and basically was told that I must think rules don't apply to me. It was harsh and ridiculous at a time that I needed some basic support from fellow Effexor victims. Maybe it was just the one admin I dealt with but I have nothing good to say about them.
@@kristgo2001 I'm so sorry you had that experience! Do you have support now from another group? Which one would you recommend? We always like to hear good recommendations.
Psch withdrawal is worse than death itself
ABSOLUTELY!!
Death is VASTLY underrated
omg yes i hate snapping at people especially my boyfriend he stuck by me yesterday to make sure i was ok and i couldn’t stop crying and snapping at him. day 4 now today off co venflaxen so far all seems ok… dizziness is gone i pray it stays that way
I was on antipsychotics for 8+ yrs with antidepressants and benzos and lithium still with olanzapine…how can i cut a pill to 5-10%? And the dr keeps telling me u cant put it in water just start taking 2.5 mg while i was on 5mg/day and lithium 600mg….can any1 help me ?
Stopped taking antidepressants 3 weeks ago, I started taking them because of another suicide attempt.
I now feel worse than the night I left home not intending to return.
I'm so sorry you are going through this tough time.
Did you taper off slowly?
So how do you get off of it safely??? Hello!!!
medicatingnormal.com/psychiatric-drug-withdrawal/
@@MedicatingNormalmore on adhd medication please
Psych drugs ruined my life
Ditto - we need a Crazy in Canada - Like Mad In America
on Facebook there is a group called Mad in Toronto: facebook.com/groups/756540051051511
How is she?
You can get off. It is lengthy, though and brutal torture.
It took three months to get off quatiapine. It’s the worst thing I’ve ever experienced.
How are you doing nowadays?
I'm currently going through that same hell
@@Blackmoonsoulx Thanks for asking. I'm not against meds because I know it has helped many people--just not me. It took 3 months to get off Q. The first 3 months off, my mind started to clear up nicely. Now I've been off 5 months and 20 days. I decided to get off basically everything. I've found the rage is completely gone. On Q I'd have hours of anger for no reason sometimes. I've been writing prolifically but not in an excessive way. Still everything in life feels artificial. I'm not delusional but it feels like I'm playing a video game. I do these things which a person should do (Shopping, dating, taking care of pets...) but it all feels like I'm going through the motions. I recently had a great success with a 13 year project and I just don't even care. After almost 6 months off Q Ii am starting to suspect isn't going to get better from here. I'm not sure what "going back to the old me" means anymore. I don't know who that even is and am not sure that's even desirable.
@cybercab how long were you on Q? How high was the dose? I was on 100mg for 1 year and it messed me up.
@@aronjohnson2553 18 months. I was on Zoloft and that didn't work so we thought maybe it was BD and not depressions. Switched to Lithium and it slowly ramped me up to an angry dysphoric mania and was hospitalized. Switched to Q and was uncomfortably numb for 18 months. I stopped because the depression remained but I couldn't do my work. So really, why bother? I've been off everything for almost 6 months after 6 year of meds. I did three more years on meds 23 years ago. after some things happened I decided to give it another shot.
I think I'll use meds as a safety net if I go manic again. I can handle intense depression and pain. No problems. If i go manic I'll figure something out. I don't see a lot of options really and I'm again coming to the conclusion that there is no real solution and the thought of living a normal life is completely off the table.
My life looks really good--on paper.
long term use leads to what type of dysphoria?
Hopefully my reply won't get deleted this time. Here's my comment again, minus the URL to cite the source:
"TARDIVE DYSPHORIA (TDp) is defined as a chronic, frequently treatment resistant, depressive state with onset in the setting of ongoing, persistent antidepressant treatment."
Simply put: it's chronic depression from long term anti-depressant use.
(I'm just GUESSING this is what the holistic shrink said - it's hard to clearly make out the word she said before "dysphoria", but it started with a "T". I hope this helps 🤞🏻.)
Tardive dyskanesia
This is my story
So she was on Lexapro, then she letf it and went back on a different antidepressant? Don
I tried to stop taking celexa and after 5 years decided to stop. The acute withdrawals (absolutely dreadful) lasted about two weeks and the post acute withdrawals lasted months. I ended up going back on them :-(
I think I tried twice before the third time I was able to taper slower and be more prepared....
Juan how. r u now
I am considering getting off Effexor and Lamictal after 25 years. It's 25 years of walking around in a daze I'm still depressed. I'm changing psychiatrist as my existing one is not very encouraging. I've tapered off twice over a nine-month stretch two separate times. I became very very despairing,had massive crying jags, and stayed indoors for 9 months after that. I went back on the meds due to the pressure from my doctor. I am preparing to try again. My adult grown boys have missed 25 years of me as a mother. I simply was not available for the birth of my grandchild and great-grandchild and feel a terrible sense of guilt about this. I am hopeful,hearing about ketamine treatment and getting off psychiatric meds
I was wondering how you feeling today if you don’t mind me asking ?
Please can I add subtitles to this video?
Please do! We have community captions enabled. Do you know how to do it?
@@MedicatingNormal Yes, I know. Thank you. I will do it as soon as I can.
My teenager was abruptly taken off antipsychotic medication due to a side effect but imo he should have been weaned off because the doctor knew the side effect had been an issue shorty after he started the medication. Instead she switched the antipsychotic and it made the side effect worse than she said just to stop the medication cold turkey and that if my teenager becomes psychotic again to take him to the ER. I am so dissatisfied with her treatment plan because she knew it was causing an issue months ago and I believe instead of switching she should have started to wean him off once he became stabilized. This can cause his mental health to get worse we went through hell when he was in psychosis and he missed so much school so now hopefully he doesn't go back into psychosis because of her inability to manage mental health patients. I had reservations about her shortly after he started seeing her but now I am going to find him a new provider.
So sorry this happened. Not sure what state you're in, but try: www.wittdoerringpsychiatry.com
or benzoinfo.com/doctors (these are benzo-wise doctors, but many are also informed about the risks/harms of other drug classes too)
They are expensive and I can't afford Dr. Witt-Doerring.
So you're going to find a new doctor? They all sing the same tune. Go the natural route.
i wish they had someone other than Kelly Brogan. She has some of her own vested interests; selling supplements and books, and programs. However, David Cohen of UCLA and Stuart Shipko can speak to the topic with more credibility.
We have three versions of our film and Kelly is only in one of them.
@@MedicatingNormal Where can we view all three versions? Had no idea there was more than the one I saw.
A slow taper at max 5-10% per month ( 5% with the last 1/4 of the medication) will eliminate withdrawal symptoms. She probably had a doctor taper her too fast.
Lsd is my antidepressant
Going off after 10 years was like going skydiving without a parachute.
Did you taper?
@@Phin13760 Yeah I did (150mg, 100mg, 50mg, 0mg). If I could do it again, I would've gone down to 25mg. While it would've made the physical withdrawal symptoms easier, it wouldn't have done much for the mental symptoms.
@@hotdogflavoureddrink i still get anxiety depression , and insomnia. I moght take vistaril to sleep
@@hotdogflavoureddrink how are you doing nowadays?
@@Blackmoonsoulx I went back on, definitely the right decision. I do plan on coming off again one day but not rush.
Why can’t they make more effective anti depressants? The side effects and withdrawal effects at present can be terrible
I've been very wary of Allopathic Psychiatrists after their torment.
I think the problem is that people are given these medications who don’t really need them. I was severely depressed around 5 years ago and getting on celexa was the only thing that worked for me. At that time I was an IV drug user and was basically a walking zombie of a person, I had no veins left to speak of, abscesses everywhere, and no reason to want to be alive at all.
I haven’t had any real side effects from it this whole time, but now it’s time to come off. I just halved my dose two weeks ago, and I haven’t felt any changes so far. So I’m at 10mg now...can’t wait to be off of it for good, although it definitely did work wonders for me! Having to keep getting it refilled is such a pain, and a lot of times I would forget to take it too.
Its called AKASTISIA. Its horrifying
Right there with you!
@@AkathisiaWarrior HORRIFIC TORTURE. Did you know that during times of war that induced chemical akathisia was used as means of torture like waterboarding?!?! I know you believe it if you have experienced it.
04:28 Moved home .. Basically reverted to like being a child.
Like me
How are you doing now? Into stocks as well?
@@maahirajpoot1534 I am stiff suffering various issues .. disturbed unrefreshing sleep. Fatigue and stiffness are main issues.
@@bhaskartaneja6293 oh I m sorry to know that. You've shown yourself to be a good fighter surely. Are you able to work for a living? Any mental symptoms such as impaired concentration, depression that stops from certain activities? Regards and best wishes 🙏
@@maahirajpoot1534
Thanks.
There are still feelings of lackness , depression. But I am not taking any medication for 4.5 years.
I am done with allopathy.
I could work .. but fatigue limits me to a lot of extent.
@@bhaskartaneja6293 I see. Wish you gain more strength. We share multiple symptoms, some come from the same cause, others not. I'd be 44 this December. Regards and best wishes 🎉. 🙂
Yes its like comming off coccaine . But we just to go through it . God bless you
Comings off of cocaine is a walk in the park compared to big pharma poison...
So thats the end??? No update on how she is now? Fucking depressing. Thanks for the encouragement Doctor
Symptoms are similar to brain tumors , need MRIs too!
No happy ending? I'm in the same boat :( Will keep trying though
Try the lion diet (carnivore diet) Research it!
If you get have depression get St John's Wort
They killed me with benzos
There are other factors as causes for mental depression one as being mentally abused by a toxic person in your life where you would need medication to survive.When you have surgery they have to put you out because your body could not take the physical pain so that medication is necessary So there are different levels of pain and that is why there are so many medications to cure that.
@@orangesnowflake3769 How else do you cope as a man.You still have to provide for your children even though their mother is a cruel person.
@@orangesnowflake3769 I am no longer with my childrens mother as she divorced me when I said i will no longer engage with her.My children are grown up they know whats what I am extremely close with them.I am still taking the xanax because it works good enough where my chest dont hurt Thank you for your reply it means a lot when some one cares.
@@Drainman My mom destroyed my child hood and all my teenage life listening to these professional quacks by drugging me to death and abusing me physicaly and verbaly in more ways than one. I hate my mother. I hope my dad and her die soon. My dad did both of those, but even worse. My mom told me that I am not a Doctor when I said medication is affecting me.
her comment about men was unneeded and hurts her position. I know MANY woman doctors prescribing these drugs.
There is no happy ending to poor mental health
Exactly
Disagreed. There is always hope. And remember we are NOT supposed to be happy all the time!
@@thomasche I am not talking about being unhappy or a low mood! Obviously, you have never suffered from Major Depressive Disorder.
@@thomasche There is a difference between being able to achieve some contentment in life & relentless suffering! Severe Depression attacks the part of the brain that is responsible for hope. Obviously you have never had Recurrent Major Depressive Disorder. The only Hope one has with this illness is an early Death!
Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is the cure for withdrawal, i'm nearly 100% need to do at least 40 sessions
LOL!
Yeah! ... like we all have the money, time & resources for that!
@@montesa9136 it's the only way I've found, I'm still doing it now. I assume your in the US, here in the UK it's cheap
@@MrMushkin85do you feel back to yourself?
wow cute
Withdrawal for Risperdal medication and withdrawal symptoms can last up to 3 months, my psychiatrist is not properly instructed to deal with treating withdrawal symptoms because his brain was washed by the big pharma
They all have been indoctrinated to some extent. It's all about the money. They don't care about the lives they destroy. I feel sorry for them when they stand in front of Jesus to be judged, I really do..
You feel depressed after withdrawal
@honeyarora1131 yeah, that's called post acute withdrawal.
You feel like yourself again after withdrawal. I am 70 percent recovered .what about you.
@@honeyarora1131 sơ sơ, Risperdal withdrawal can last up to 3 months so yeah, my own will can beat it
shittttt
Why did she say board of men . Its not a plot to defeat women or anything.
idk who’s right or wrong anymore. it’s all so tiresome.