HORRIFYING Mountain Stories
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- As majestic as they might be, mountains are not without risk. Whether it is the altitude, weather, remoteness, or simply due to humans being involved, mountains offer unique dangers and incredible stories. Welcome to Horrifying Mountain Stories!
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Hey everyone! If you enjoy this video and want me to cover any stories that you think would fit this series, reply to this comment with your suggestions! Thank you all for watching!
Alison hargreaves and her son tom ballard insperational stories
Hey Sean really enjoying your videos! Been watching for the past few months and really great content. Little idea for a video you could cover and might find interesting yourself, offshore oil and gas disasters! I work on an oil rig myself in Australia and everyday we encounter extremely dangerous situations like well control, working at heights and with dangerous machinery. Piper alpha and Deepwater horizon are some of the biggest ones but there's many tragic stories that have happened over the years. Let me know what you think!
More mountain/national parks related would be awesome, top notch content by the way, keep it up.❤️
Are you a real person? A human being with a body? A life outside of doing youtube videos? Or are you AI?
Wondering if you're planning to make a video or playlist of them with the technical details explained thoroughly, so people who follow the overall series don't have to skip the explanation over and over again? Something you could refer to with a link, "see here for details", while you go on with the particular story uninterrupted.
My grandfather told me when he got lost while in Korea looking for a comrad who had not returned (during the Korean war), he nearly entered a clearing when heard his friend say "I am coming, turn around and follow your muddy steps back to camp". He returned to camp and asked where his friend was as he expected him to return and that is when they told him that his friend had been killed, found in the clearing that was a mind field and they had recovered his body before my grandfather even made it to the area. Makes you wonder.
I don't believe in any kind of biblical afterlife. But there are enough stories like this, it's hard to deny that there may be a way to communicate from beyond in some way.
@@janetgood6332 you need to believe just incase cause no way around it you sooner or later will find out..better safe than sorry
By the blood of jesus
@@sabretooth717 hilarious. I'm not worried. You can't just "believe" something just in case. Fear based religion was made up to control people like you who don't know right from wrong without it.
@@sabretooth717 Why do you think your religion is any better than any other belief? The bible is a political document. Each person has their own beliefs and you need to respect that.
@@thurayya8905 well, regardless of what other false religions people might believe in. When we die we better be ready to greet God in some capacity and be ready to face the consequences of our live choices.
Third Man Syndrome is quite fascinating. It is not that they cannot survive without it, it is their own minds grappling with the fact that they need someone else there to motivate them, so their normally internal thoughts take on an external form to become this motivator.
It can only give advice that they themselves know, but in the moment it feels like they did not know it.
That’s a great theory
Thats just like....your opinion man . I think its god.
it is the word of god
@angelos.3106 Hence you are your own god.
Gods are made by man
Third man factor has also been reported by race car drivers. Dale Ernhart Jr swore that he felt someone pull him out of a wrecked car that was burning, but video and witnesses all saw him climb out. Honestly, you could probably do a whole series on auto racing disasters and near misses.
Romain Grosjean and Jacky Stewart also reported a voice speaking to them in their respective crashes.
Let's just be honest it's a miracle.
@@regularstan6212it’s literally just your brain playing tricks on you bro. Ever hear of sleep paralysis? I’ve had it a dozen times. Your brain does weird shit
That would be an anomaly and intriguing disaster series.
Yes!! Now THAT would be some great listening!!!
I've experienced the third man factor when I got into trouble my first time kayaking. I probably wouldn't have died, but I definitely would have needed rescuing if the voice hadn't been there to tell me how to get myself out of the situation. Simultaneously very comforting and terrifying.
I want to know more about this thing:0
It's so fascinating
I can imagine people mistaking third man factor for God or souls of dead people speaking to them
Guardian angel
@@bgee461... that's what I was going to say! So here; it was their Guardian Angel 🎉 happened to me June '22 when I shattered my leg bicycling. Thought I was talking to a guy that I couldn't see thru the tears then realized who it was (thank You, Lord, I love You Jesus) Not Him but my Guardian. Anyway, ambulance was there like in 2 minutes or less. Now I carry a 15 in titanium bar 🎉 thanks for letting me vent, I've only told this to a couple of family members....
@@sancho8521thanks for sharing your story ❤
@@amelielambert2337 thank You, Amelie!
✌️🎉❤️
I would love to hear more Third Man Factor stories. There are very few of them on CZcams. It's fascinating
Maybe others call those ghosts in their stories
It's literally their imagination, lmao.
No one is ever alone here on earth. We are all with a spirit guide who can help us when we need him/her ❤
It really is their imagination, but at the same time, it's real. Everything in the mind is manufactured, everything you see, touch, taste, smell, and hear, is a result of your brain interpreting signals that it receives from the outside world. So if your brain interprets those signals incorrectly, your body will create a sensation that's incorrect. It's simply an error.
You will SEE a person who isn't there, just as clearly as every person you've ever seen that WAS there. Taste foods the same way you've tasted every dinner you've ever had. Hear, touch, smell, it's all the same. In the mind and consciousness of the involved person, it's real. This same principle I'm describing is observed by people who've lost limbs before. They're called phantom sensations, a limbless person can sometimes feel an itch in the leg that is no longer there. They aren't crazy, their brain is just doing something incorrectly.
This Third Man Factor, is a direct result of the brain creating things that aren't there, in a time of extreme trauma and need. I don't doubt for a single second this man heard exactly what he claims to have heard.
Stay curious. 😊
@@Sovereign_54 My theory of the 3rd man factor, although i'm not saying the recently past or long dead cant communicate with us my more logical thought process.
My theory suggests that the brain is aware of the danger and the need for calm and rational decision-making, may employ a psychological mechanism to tap into a more logical and composed thinking process. This process could manifest as a perceived presence of a "third man" or an external guiding voice, which represents the individual's own rational and composed self.
By attributing this rational thinking to an external entity, the person experiencing the Third Man Factor may find it more believable and trustworthy, as it is detached from their own panicked state. This perceived presence could provide reassurance, guidance, and a sense of confidence, enabling the individual to make more sound and rational decisions that align with what they would typically do in a non-panicked state.
You are the only channel I watch for this type of content. Other channels have sensationalized content, classic "Top 10" style of editing with very excited voiceover and stock photos that don't make sense or don't match the location. Yours are realistic and the explanation of gear and techniques is technically accurate. You explain technical topics without losing novices and without boring those with knowledge of the field. Your voice is calm and very nice to listen to. Also, your VO is very well written, and it never sounds like you're trying to make a cringy WatchMojo video.
I agree
Agreed
I don't like his intonation at the end of his sentences. Once you hear it you can't go back.
I can recommend a channel called ‘plainly difficult’ as well.
😅👏👏👏😅😅😅😅😅😅
I would love it if you covered the story of Scott Adamson. He disappeared climbing Ogre II in Pakistan a few years ago. I only met him a couple of times, but he was my husband’s cousin. Such a neat dude 💛
I'm really sorry to hear that. I will look into it
Wow I’m sorry for y’all’s loss
I would love to hear this story as well! Not many channels discuss things that happen over there 😅
Sorry to hear that, hmm Pakistan sounds like Taliban ground
Sorry for your loss
Crazy that the Transworld Snowboarding article doesn’t mention the very distinct possibility that the figure the sherpas saw 1300 meters below them was Marco dying of exhaustion and sliding down the face of the mountain, and instead lists two less likely scenarios and mentions the fact that his sister apparently believes he is alive in Tibet somewhere, which is impossible.
The FAKE media news covering up for those COWARDS
How often do these people ever die? They almost always start a new life for no obvious reason. Tbh I can't even comprehend this insane phenomenon.
Denial and Hope. Illogical as it may be, humans often need to believe that their loved one is still out there somewhere. Like the poor parents of taken children when keep their room ready for them for decades, certain that one day they'll find them. The sad reality is that only a miniscule number are ever found alive.
@@CJM-rg5rt I'm willing to bet a lot more people die than fake their death to start a new life.
I'm with you on this one!!
4:57 - I learned something tonight. The Third Man Factor. I've had that and it was so comforting I'll always remember it. I had anxiety (luckily outgrew it) as a young kid but didn't know what it was. Sometimes it was all I could do to stay in school and not want to come home. One time when I was ready to have a tears breakdown, a man's voice came into my head and it was just comforting and it felt like a secure rope to my life and diminished my anxiety a lot. The voice sounded similar to Dana Hersey, who was a tv broadcaster out of Boston at the time. It worked so well I never forgot it, and I sometimes talk to myself in my head as third person when I've encountered dangerous situations throughout my life. I thought I was a weirdo and never brought it up to anyone LOL - now I know there's something out there that's at least similar others have experienced. That's really neat!
Same here. Never knew it's a wider phenomenon. Like you, I thought it was me acting weird because of the tremendous pressure at that moment.
Maybe when you cover the first few stories of Everest and K2, I think it would be nice to mention how important the Sherpas jobs are. Too many times their work goes unnoticed in these stories. They are the ones who carry the gear and set up the lines for the climbers to transverse to the submit.
I agree! Sherpas are the real deal. They rarely get the credit they deserve. Many ascents are only made possible by the work of Sherpas.
The Sherpas took all the bodies down the mountain. They carried all the used oxygen tanks and other garbage down, too. What amazing people.
And they get very little money for all their hard work.
How do they even do it. They have maximum red blood cells due to acclimation to the height?
@@patsk8872 My guess is that they're inherent of a very flexible body immunity against such extreme weathers as.. well, there are still some locals who live around that area, not 8000meters up but yes pretty high from sea level so yeah they've become used to it Ig
An interesting tidbit I read in a paper is that above 6000m, the partial pressure of oxygen in the atmosphere is the same as the ideal in your blood. This means that above 6000m, it's physically impossible to saturate your blood with oxygen. I assume this is why acclimatization can only get you so far.
You May be right. In the "documentary" movie Everest about the disaster Expedition in the 90s they explain that the Peak is an altitude where Planes fly! You will die at a certain Point of time and ought Not to be Up there for too Long. I guess its called death Zone for a reason.
Your story telling is so much better than others. A very clear, relaxing voice to listen to. Other youtubers (I won't name names) are starting to just get ''too into it'', if that makes sense...added noises (and very repeated in most videos), sensationalized version of the story (i.e. with some details we can't possibly know)...well done and congrats on the quick growth of your channel, you deserve it!
Yeah, I've been trying to find similar channels and so many just do not compare lol
Agreed
YOWATSUPYOUTTTUUUBE!TODAYWEREGONNNATALKABOUTDISSAAASTERS!!!*SFX*
:D
"WOW"
"CAN YOU BELIEVE IT"
"OH MY GOD"
Exactly some even use like a robotic voice horrible.
Green Boots had a friend for awhile. David Sharpe died in that cave too. There's another interesting Everest story. David tried climbing Everest on his own and Russell Brice's team got criticized for not helping him. He wasn't on Russell's team. Russell has never lost anyone from his guide service. Russell knows how to run a Everest guide service.
Green Boots and David Sharpe have both been moved as I understand it, for quite a few years now. Russell Brice retired from guiding in 2021, I was super sad to hear that and I’m not even a climber lol
@@georgia2321 yeah I think Russell team move David Sharpe out of the cave. Sad to hear Russell retired but he did it for a long time. He was the best. Thanks for telling me about him.
@@georgia2321 Greens Boots is back. I thought he had been moved as well, but apparently he was just covered up with snow, and last year the wind apparently uncovered him again. I don't know about Sharpe, I haven't heard anyone say they saw him again, so I don't know if he was moved, or if he is just still covered with snow.
Even the best guides on Everest. It's a crap shoot ! If the weather gets nasty, which is out of their control, everyone dies. It's a bunch of fools, following a fool with lots of luck and experience.
@@thelogicaldanger David was moved from the cave in the morning when Max, Russel and the descending Sherpa tried to help him (where he told Max his name). They moved him I believe until they got just before the first steps because they realised they were too tired to carry him... And that's when he succumbed
The small side picture of the “American Rockies” at 1:22 in the corner is actually a picture of the Canadian Rockies specifically of Moraine Lake in Banff national park.
Interesting to see that at a certain point some people value more an accomplishment than their own life. Great video as always, thanks for the explanations.
“The mountains are calling, and I must go…” -John Muir
better to die for something than live for nothing
For many it isn't even that- it's just another kind of fix. Adrenaline can be just as addictive as any other drug and people can get just as obsessive.
@@fvngvsxx798 No I think I'd rather live tbh.
@@sirjoey3137 You'll never be remembered after you die
i remember when i lived in colorado, our family use to hike up the mountains. i stepped off the edge of the mountain, past these ropes blocking it (for obvious reasons) and started sliding down and below me it looked like a deep abyss of trees tens of thousands of feet below me. i managed to catch myself and climb back up but damn that was scary. i was about 10 or 11 at the time so i didn't realize how dangerous it was to go past those ropes, or what purpose they served.
made me sick just reading the comment ,no joke !! YES i really am that scared of heights, its awful , cant help it , thats only nightmares i have, fall asleep then start falling damn i hate that id rather fight freddy kruger !!!
im 6'6" at that, anything over 6'8" is no fly zone
As a mountaineer, it scares me when I hear your stories but they are also a good sense of knowledge and learning from peoples past mistakes! I love your channel.
healthy dose of fear is always a good thing in activities such as that
I think the stories where we just never find the person's body are among the most haunting. That last image of (possibly?) Marco sliding down a slope and then just...vanishing is really spooky
LFG!!! Love all the vids but especially enjoy the mountain ones, Hope your channel grows expeditiously
Bro what are you doing here?! 😂 I remember u from Vine
Ew it's guy who told girls to shave their arms for men 🤢 cringe
i never expected to see him here
What is lfg
Get out of here go back to vine.
I find the Third Man syndrome interesting. However, what is the difference between that experience and the voices that many others have heard when they were in dire straits? For example, people travelling may hear a voice telling them to take another road, only to learn later of a disaster on the road they were going to take. These voices are often attributed to angels, so maybe that's why they're discounted compared to the Third Man stories. But just as often, people will just say they heard a voice. They don't know who or what it is. For the most part, I think these voices are a way for our mind to cut out all the extraneous clutter when we're in an emergency, and help us focus on things we already know or pay closer attention to our environment. But other times, who knows? I look forward to more entries in this series.
They’re demon voices
@@stephaniecoomey2356 Why would you jump to demons rather than Guardian Angels?
@@RosesandLace I was just playing make believe as well
@Niko Niko people will ignore 1001 theories and cop out saying it’s god
@Niko Niko let’s thank god for all the children he’s killed this year, thanks almight knower and creator.
Ah yes, nothing better then doing homework while listening to scary interesting explain horrible tragedies
I'm eating lunch, myself
I’m going to sleep myself
I’m playing minecraft myself
I'm listening and watching intently not dividing my attention needlessly, myself.
I'm doing dishes, myself. Love the channel!
I didn't know it's called the third man factor in english, i always read about it as just this presence or companion. Our famous climber Krzysztof Wielicki mentioned this during his mad accomplishment when he soloed broad peak in one day. He mentions that there just was this presence following him, and he was really chill about them. Also in Elisabeth Revol's book she mentions it during her descent from Nanga - that this presence was messing with her and convinced her to take off her boot. As a doctor it's always both fascinating and scary seeing what our brain is doing on high altitudes with lack of oxygen. A doctor in my hospital who accompanied some himalayan expedition did some research on the topic, and it's just wild, how we can be unable to do just the most basic and simple things in those conditions - and obv the fact that it's so demanding and hard work to even get up there is not helping. I have mad respect for mountain climbers, but i'm not going anywhere near that height ever XD
I love the level of detail that you put into these videos and how you care to explain various concepts related to the event, I think it really makes the story more comprehensive and enjoyable.
I'm a med student and that explanation of altitude sicknes was perfect. Even though it was a summarized version, the fact that you cared to explain how athmosferic preasure affects hematosis, and the phisiological reactions to low oxigen levels demonstrates the amount of research that you put into your work. Great video!
I’ve been unpacking and moving into a new place over the past few days, and your videos have been brilliant to have on in the background. Thank you for all the effort you put into these, you’re a fantastic storyteller!
What an adorable cat! 💓🐈💓
A story I've always wanted to hear: the ascents of the Rupal Face of Nanga Parbat. It's the tallest mountain face in the world and 31 people died trying to climb it before the first successful ascent.
To put that in perspective, 6 people died trying to climb The Eiger before the first successful ascent. The Eiger's north face is widely considered to be one of the most dangerous routes in mountain climbing. Who the hell were these people trying to climb the Rupal Face? How insane do you have to be to try that when literally no one has done it and many have died?
I am so curious to hear about these stories, but I basically can't find any info about it online. It's like those people never existed.
Morbid Midnight, a smaller but quite nice channel has two videos about Nanga Parbat tragedies.
I just like saying “Nanga Parbat.” 🤷🏻♀️
@@roamingirl naked mountain 🏔⛰️
Actually 31 Germans died trying to climb the Rakhiot Face of Nanga Parbat, this was in the 30's and 40's and early 50's. The first ascent was done by Herman Buhl (Austrian), he climbed the Rakhiot flank and summited in 1953 solo, in a 40-hour ordeal where he was benighted and stood on a ledge till sunrise. The Rupal face was largely ignored until the Messner brothers came along in 1970.
Same
So cool that you are covering Marco"s story, i read his story in an old Transworld Snowboarding Magazine (I think) and was quite moved by it. It always amazed me that his story never went more mainstream and has never been covered more! Great work with new series, I'm all in!
I did hear of a Third Man story where a woman woke up one day with a voice in her head telling her she had a brain tumor and needed to see a doctor. At first she thought she was going crazy, as did her husband and the doctor she saw. Until eventually she *insisted* on getting a brain scan, and shockingly, she *did* have a brain tumor. After the surgery, the voice even said goodbye to her. I'm not a spiritual or religious person, by any means. With the climbers, the voice can be easily explained away as their conscience, stuff they already knew. But that woman has no way of knowing she had a brain tumor. The brain is a powerful thing, and there's lots that we don't know about it, sure. But idk, it makes you wonder.
Yeah our brains are our connection to time, space, reality, etc. To fully understand what consciousness you’d have to know fully what life if and fully what the universe is. Case-in-point, none of us know where we were for the endless time before we born, and presumably, the endless time after. Technically anything and everything is possible considering the fact it is all contained in one universe and one reality- as far as we know.
Shhhh. You might trigger the godless heathens
Just in case anyone is unsure about where exactly this channel is heading, I can help you out. It's headed to the top. The very top. Congratulations on your success Scary Interesting, you absolutely deserve it! Please don't stop anytime soon!
I had this ‘third man’ experience when i skied into a tree a dozen years ago. I partially crushed 5 vertebrae.
I was upside down in a tree well facing away from the tree. I tried to call the ski patrol and a voice told me that I had to self rescue. I always thought it was a supernatural connection with my mother in law who passed away at the same time that I hit the tree.
It’s helpful to know there’s a name for this experience.
I argued with the voice and the voice won. It saved my life.
Maybe the voice was God~
if ur comfortable sharing, what was the 'argument' like?
My uncle and his wife were snowboarding and got caught in an avalanche. He had a compound femur fracture and my aunt put a tourniquet around it and bc they never arrived to pick up their kids from school, rescuers were sent out and they both lived and my uncle recovered
CRAZY about the Rockies first story - I'm James and I went scrambling with my buddy Rich a few days ago near where the narrator mentioned. Gnarly rockfall sliced his calf and gave a severe contusion to his leg - any different and it would've shattered his leg and we had no service and 6km down very steep scree before getting near the roadway.
Mountains are very unforgiving of any mistake!
Greenboots isn’t there anymore. He was moved during the cleanup, if I remember correctly. Sharp and Mallory are the only two bodies very high up left. And maybe Irvine.
I grew up in Alaska, and one of the field trips my 7th grade class took as a hike up a mountain that, once we reached the peak, allowed us to look down upon my entire hometown. It was incredibly awe-inspiring, and I'd love to take up hiking/mountaineering again, but I'm in OK rn and can't handle the heat. I've never experienced anything as clear as a voice, but I'm fully convinced that the land itself communicates with us in ways we don't fully understand. If you listen, you're much less likely to die out there. The Earth is alive beneath our feet and will continue to be here long after we're gone.
The 26,000 foot camp on Everest is so high and so cold that there is only one McDonalds and two Starbucks. And three nail salons.
😝😝😝
I dig this new series a lot, dude. I look forward to more from you. I’ve yet to be anything but impressed, intrigued or some combination thereof.
Thank you for how you do what you do.
I’m in college working towards a psychology degree and to me the third man factor is one of the most interesting psychological phenomena I’ve heard of. The fact that the brain can push through it’s own trauma and a person’s decision to give up to give practical and rational advice is amazing. It also shows how our willingness to listen to help from others is stronger than our own will to keep going sometimes because it is experienced as a completely external person from the person experiencing it. It’s fascinating thinking about the ways this little cheat to make people work to live even when all seems hopeless may have evolved in humans, either biologically/physiologically or psychologically/socially and the fact that it is a shared experience across time and culture. God I love the way humans work, we are such weird creatures and I’m happy to be here to observe it
Silly idea, but an outsider voice might arise from the human communal urge. The brain tricking itself this way might manifest in other kinds of ways, for instance creating a false person we might be convinced must be saved. Its a common ghost story trope. Neurotheology also offers endorphin rewards when we feel "at one" with a greater community.
I love it because these stories drive godless heathens crazy
Imagine being a ghost on Everest. People stopping by and saying hello to you, but not much else. And just sitting there waiting for time to end. Assuming they even know they are dead, and don't believe they are having a strange dream.
It's both wholesome and creepy to use corpses as landmarks and to keep company. If I was a ghost there I would definitely appreciate!
Are you high?
Climbing Everest is Playing Russian Roulette, if you survive you loose a few fingers or toes, if you dont survive you can be gone forever, great story loved listening.
35 seconds ago, awesome! Thanks for your great content.
Your prononciation of Aiguille du Midi is spot on 👌🏻
It's rare to see people actually put effort into learning how to say names right :>
I know! I hear so many narrator's mangle ordinary words, let alone difficult place names. If there is a word that you keep running into, you need to look it up.
BABBLE lol
Maybe you could do a series of polar explorers? Like Shackleton, or Tom Crean? Maybe the elephant Island case?
Mawson’s Antarctica journey would be a wild one. I’ll never forget the description of the skin on the soles of his feet falling off and him just sticking the skin back and continuing to walk.
Tom Crean? He coached Marquette Basketball
Rainbow Valley has always been such an intriguing part of Mt Everest to me. In fact it's what got me so interested in learning everything I can about mountain climbing and mountain climbers. You did an incredible job explaining Everest and the base camps along the way. Can't wait to see what other videos you upload!
I have gotten so sick of Mr. Ballen and I haven’t been able to find anyone I like who tells stories on here without completely embellishing stories to the point they’re barely recognizable and just straight lies. I’m so glad I found you!! You also have an amazing speaking voice which is something else hard to find on here it seems lol. You tell so many interesting stories, thank you 🙏🏻❤ I’ve been binge watching your videos for hours and even got my husband addicted 😂
idk why but your comment made me chuckle :D
Thank god, the one sane comment calling out mr ballen for outright lies just to chase that sweet sweet tiktok clout. I tried calling him out and got buried in comments.
This channel is so much better and less sensationalized 😊
Haha yeah when i first found that channel, i was somewhere waiting a couple days for something, so i just sat there and listened to mr ballen, it was really good, but recently i haven't been able to get into the stories. Don't know why. At least he and this guy talk like normal people. So many people have a weird cadence or accent certain parts of each sentence and it does my head in
speaking of talking in a really weird cadence nothing beats the "buRgEr kIng FoOt LeTtUcE" guy. there are legit idiots who defend his way of talking. like a speech impediment is one thing but this dude legit talks like a weirdo@@socore4659
Why do you not like Mr ballen anymore? Serious question not being sarcastic.
I love these so much , please do more stories about national parks or forested areas in general.
Sean is one of the best writers on youtube: concise narratives with no fluff, filler or sensationalising - just facts, concisely, clearly and chronologically presented. An excellent channel, highly recommend. Thanks Sean.
For more context, there's also Alpine style climbing where you basically just haul ass to the top by yourself with minimal equipment. If you are climbing with equipment and staying at camps, sometimes you have to climb up and back DOWN to previous camps to acclimatize before pushing for the summit. 8000m climbers are crazy
I had never heard of the Third Man Syndrome, but it makes a lot of sense. Across time and culture we have seen similar concepts with different names, the bicameral mind, tulpas, spirit guides, even imaginary friends. Twice I've been pushed to my absolute limit through injury or illness and that's when an imaginary entity will appear to comfort and guide me.
Yeah, it is interesting. But it's also pretty obvious to me that it's a creation of the brain, nothing supernatural about it. When pushed at the limit like you said, the brain desperately tries to comfort itself, and some people feel better if they imagine being comforted by "another person". So the brain creates that person, a kind figure, just what the person needs to see/hear in moments of distress.
The North Star
@@fabiana7157 hell we only have one side (right or left dont recall) that connects to the communication area, so it has been made into theories that we might have something like 'another person' in us! Fascinating either way
@@antonio7334 Yes, our perception requires the world to be recreated in our brains. Our self-perception recreates ourselves in our brains. Empathy recreates others within ourselves, recreating the experience we observe for the recreated self so we feel what we observe. Part of our brain is creating a narrative, picking and choosing, for the active part.
One theory says that consciousness might be the emergent, sum is greater than the parts interaction of these recreated others and selves. Much of the brain occurs so fast and unconsciously we don't realize it, for instance the complex calculation needed to estimate where a ball will go so that we can catch it. When inner voices occur spontaneously while being scanned by an MRI, it comes from a spot unrelated to normal inner speech which has to do with auditory processing. This particular spot varies highly between individuals.
@@fabiana7157interesting theory
Notification gang.
Your videos are friggen awesome man
Seriously love this, another banger as usual.
One thing that I’d love to be included are more in depth outcomes. In the first story I’d love to have heard if he recovered or ever climbed again etc.
Always enjoy when you include that.
Thanks again!
Sean, I've been watching a lot of your videos lately along with other channels that cover similarly grim topics and fates (Dark History, Fascinating Horror, The Raven's Eye, Disasterthon, etc.). Your channel definitely has more of a focus on adventure gone awry and human vs. nature (e.g. caving or climbing), with the occasional "horrible fates" thrown in for good measure. Some common themes I see in all of these channels is the need to have empathy for others, to never take life for granted, to never cut corners when it comes to safety, and to be grateful for what we have. Thanks for your hard work and keep it up!
How does a guy with a back broken in two places AND internal bleeding get up, much less walk??????
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Loving the content, keep it up!
I'd love to hear a series about bodysuit gliders or base jumpers.
I’ve never heard of Rainbow Valley but that’s so interesting! The fact that climbers use dead bodies as land marks is oddly fascinating.
That you find it fascinating is really creepy
@@LIBRELINDALOCA thank you lmao
@@LIBRELINDALOCAit is fascinating to many people? Who knew..geez!
Excellent I have 20 minutes left of my lunch and this is a little over 17 mins. Perfect.
I'm not a climber, caver, diver, etc. but I do have extensive experience with extreme endurance sports sometimes even at a professional level.
These extreme endurance sports are SIGNIFICANTLY more complex than they seem on the surface. There are many channels on CZcams that attempt to do what you are doing with your videos, but I have yet to come across one that actually takes their time to do the necessary research and know what they're talking about in order to do justice to the activities that you're covering. I wish for your continued success!
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Great video, Sean, as always. You presented a great primer on what climbers face at high altitudes. One thing you touched on was a of feeling warmth that can happen to climbers. I thought I would share my experience and practice in being board certified in Anesthesia to expand on this feeling of warmth a bit. When the body gets cold, it will protect it’s core for as long as possible. This happens by muscles in arteries that contract and limit blood flow to limbs, skin and the periphery in general. As the cold continues, these small involuntary muscles will fatigue and begin to fail. As the arterial muscles fail, warmer core blood floods into the periphery where sensors in the skin will begin to feel warm once again. This is why some will be seen removing gloves and even parkas in response to this flood of warmer blood.
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SUPER excited to hear more technical mountain climbing stories! I LOVE your diving ones and love learning things while hearing the stories.
Thank you for these excellent documentaries. This one about mountain incidents also includes mini lessons on mountaineering basics and general trivia about the extreme sport. I love the voice, style and calm background music that doesn't distract from the narrator. Keep up the great work!
Another great mountaineering video!! You give all good context and information, which as you said helps add to understanding why the situations are so dire. I enjoyed your explanation of the Rainbow Valley - I have heard about green boots before, but I had no idea there were so many unknown dead people on the mountain in that one area. I kind of thought they were scattered around.
I remember you did 2 videos on The Eiger ("Murder Wal") - were there any successful attempts? I would love to hear more, I think of all your mountain videos those were my favourite :D I would also be really interested in the mountaineering stories of mountains like Denali (I believe in Alaska?), that are maybe not as well known as Mt Everest but are home to conditions that make the climb just as (if not more) challenging. I would also be very interested in the adventures of those like Ernest Shackleton - those early arctic and Antarctic expeditions are always so fascinating, and would be a good story in your hands.
Thanks Sean, this was definitely worth the wait, absolutely loved this vid, an awesome extension to your repertoire! 👍
i love the calm way you talk! thanks for the awesome content 💜
It is great to see how every episode becomes better quality. And that the stories are still so interesting.
I regularly forget how new your channel is because everything about it and you come across as a seasoned professional. Im always delighted to see a new video of yours as they all live up to the name of being both scary and also really interesting too. Youve hit it right in the perfect spot from the start.
Your attention to detail and the way you narrate your stories is absolutely the best of the best. I’ve honestly never heard anyone better, Thoroughly love getting notifications
I love your channel! I have been to Nepal and your gifted story telling brings me from the comfort of my home back to one of the world's coolest places. Thank you for doing this, it's so fun and I look forward to each new upload. I am interested in adventures from all over the globe, and your narration is perfect to describe these epic journeys brave souls have taken.
The best time of the week 🍿
Great as always! If you ever want a break from the usual ice and snow maybe look into the Superstition Mountains in Arizona- quite the opposite climate-wise of the mountains you've covered so far and TONS of creepy stories to come out of them!
You are very good at telling these stories in an easy to understand way, with unbiased facts, while still managing to maintain the suspense. This is my new favorite channel.
I absolutely love your videos man. The meticulous way you discuss and cover subjects on your channel is nothing short of admirable. I can tell that you don't cut corners when it comes to talking about the unfortunate souls who lost their life in pursuit of their passion.
To many CZcamsrs do a blanketed take on a subject matter without getting all the details. And even some details wrong. Everyone slips up but they do it to often. Without any care or seemingly desire to even cover the topics themselves.
Just wanted to say your hard work doesn't go unappreciated. Keep up the good work. I've been here from the beginning and I hope there isn't an end in sight for your content. Keep up the good work.
What if you called them cliffhangers? Like a story and mountain. Just a thought. Youd probably want to keep mountain stories in the title for search results and the algorithm, but it could be a cool series name.
I really like that idea
for the record...
Mt Everest doesn't necessarily have the most deaths because it has the most people attempting it.
It has the most deaths because it has become a business taking anyone that wants to and has enough money to be "guided" to the summit.
It is a sad state of affairs and has highly diminished the accomplishment of climbing it.
As always, excellent work. Your narrative is fantastic. As an experienced rock and ice climber, backcountry telemark skier and scuba diver I find everything pretty spot on.
It's quite deplorable when you consider just a few yrs ago they removed some 25,000 lbs of garbage off the mountain and human waste is a bigger problem w/overflowing waste that spills down into base camp and into the communities. You're so right, it's a sad state of affairs.
Congrats on reaching 300k! You deserve it. 🤘🏻
Yeah! This made my day seeing there was another collection of stories from you! Keep up the great work! ❤
Deeply grateful for this third-man phenomenon snippet. Only now, after 40 yrs, am I learning about what happened to me back then, when I heard this voice in a very stressful situation--lost in the mountains--but didn't make much of it as there wasn't much to go by. It's changed my life completely, effectively putting an end to my unreasonable bouts of juvenile bravado. In my case it didn't come in articulate words, but through some kind of vehement unitary injunction not to waste, or risk, my life like that again, as it it very precious and must be treasured. Again, no distinct words, but just a flux of overwhelming meaning delivered through a punch in my eardrum. The most important is that it pierced through my flesh like a semantic backbone and its echo has been with me ever since.
K2 disaster in 2007 is very interesting, especially considering that most of them had cameras on them videoing what was happening.
Great channel and stories :)! Just discovered your channel and listened to all of them in one week.
Love your content, I'm glad you focus on the backstory and context leading up to the tragedies rather than just cover the events themselves. Keep it up, I'll love to see more
Hell ya sum new scary interesting 😎🤟
Thanks for your work! Although my climbing career is nothing to speak of, I am currently recovering from a stroke.( I lived) you keep me fighting. I hope to walk again, once I can tie my shoes!
Hope all gets better for you beloved
Love the new video, keep up the amazing channel, Sean!
I really love this series of yours. Keep up the great work!
Yo no joke I had Third Man Syndrome on a hike through the desert absolutely blasted on psychedelic mushrooms and I felt like I was sailing on a ship! This homie was me but wasn't, he knew what to do and how to act. And he had a mullet lol.
11:59 .....😅 No one is born with any particular set of skills except crying, eating, drinking, breathing and pooping
Breezy. Yes, pretty much 😂. I guess he was referring to a genetic disposition to certain skills like hand eye coordination, balance, etc ....
This has quickly become one of my favorite channels. You deliver the facts, giving us a detailed timeline of events while not wasting time on nonsense. Your voice and cadence is perfect for this as well. Great work, you're doing amazing.
I found your channel a few days ago and have now binged almost every video. The stories are all fascinating and great to listen to while doing work!
Looking forward to hearing more, great first episode, thanks. I find the subject of the third man factor fascinating, read a book on the subject a few years ago but can't remember the author or title. TS Elliot also refers to the phenomena in his epic poem, The Wasteland, one of my favourites..
"Who is the third who walks always beside you?
When I count, there are only you and I together
But when I look ahead up the white road
There is always another one walking beside you
Gliding wrapt in a brown mantle, hooded
I do not know whether a man or woman
But who is that on the other side of you? "
In the poem the protagonist is crossing a desert, out of water and close to death.
I sometimes wonder if the phenomena is the origin of the Angel of Mons legend, where exhausted British soldiers marched asleep to escape being surrounded and cut off after the battle of the same name. Many reported a figure, usually female, urging them to keep moving and not to sleep. Thanks again, good luck.
Third Man Syndrome is fascinating, especially in cases where the voice appears to possess information it wouldn't know if merely a product of the subconscious.
I love this series , awesome idea to mix it up - thanks for the amazing content, love your speaking voice , and story telling 📕 perfect combo 💎
I want to say great work on these - I've been getting other channel suggestions from CZcams and I've checked a few of them out but you've got a great voice for storytelling, it fits with the stories. Also, from someone who has done some mountaineering, I can't say how much appreciate your fairly accurate descriptions of systems and routes/ risk involved. So many channels blow the risk and danger through the roof and it does no justice to the very calculated and thoughtful approach I think almost every successful athlete takes to their objectives.
It was very interesting to listen to this video. I hadn't heard about neither the first accident, nor Rainbow valley before. Even though I had heard about Marco Siffredi, I didn't know about what he'd done before Mount Everest.
I binged thee entire channel in two days. Love your vids but its so sad that you can even make this many videos. Rip to all the brave people that gave their lives to sport and curiosity.
Great episode. My favorite to date. Keep up the great work!
Pretty soon the narrator is going to need a smoking jacket and a fireplace with a skull and mountaineering guide on a table with a framed picture of the Titanic on the wall. "Oh hello..."
The Voice that spoke to him was an angel. God was looking out for him.
It was his own consciousness 🤣, dude was in shock. The body is capable of crazy things
Your content has been phenomenal so far and you just blew it out of the water with this one. Looking forward to more scary interesting 🤘
Loved this story! When you mentioned Shackelton, I was hooked. I love expedition type stories! Thank you so much for this incredible content.
Yeah, imma be on my couch if you need me.