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S N A P C H A T: Brettybang | Eddy.Chen
“Big tuna, small tuna”
“D and A” *plays DNA*
The edits on this episode are a riot 😂
yeah right these edits are a masterpiece :D
*Bts fans have entered the chat*
@Duracell boi || *oh god,,*
Duracell boi we make a big entrance 💜
Do they edit their own videos?
claimed themselves not a roasting channel
*_managed to upload 4 roasting videos in a row._*
And you has like it all uh! 😎
TWIST: They make a lot of roasting video on purpose, so the most wanted henry lau roasting video won't sound too harsh. waa AmaZZing!
_and still not uploaded Lau's video_
666 likes. Perfection
@@gloriaisamust7627 Is Henry Lau roastable? I thought he is trained.
"oh he's actually playing the D and A"
*plays BTS-DNA*
Me: OH CMON THAT WAS SO UNPLANNED
Jay lmao
3:37
I paused and came to the comments just to see if someone mentioned this XD
Jay I just went through the comments to see if there was any armys here 😂💜
Yeah I loved that 😅
Petition to add “Play in Carnatic style and tuning” to the Ling Ling workout.
Yes, we want that!
We need a reaction to the Carnatic violin
This channel became a roasting channel and I'm not complaining.
Neither am I
i was JUST about to comment this lmao
Yes I love that I’m not complaining either. Roasts on point.
And we liked it instead of violin ChArAdEs
@@Yj-zf5rd charades too are pretty hilarious though :') imo
The next level is new films intentionally making their violin scenes as bad as possible so that they join the ranks of the bumblebees in twoset meme immortality.
Oooh! Social media advertising cred meta twist!
forget about that fancy international awards token, get twosetviolin token as your advertising point
Oof
Yeah, to gain more popularity
my eyes have been opened
As a former Carnatic violinist, I have to say I'm not at all surprised by the left hand holds for a lot of those people. The techniques in Indian classical music are quite differently adapted to the style. Because we have to gliss and oscillate the fingering back and forth (you obviously can't vibrato a space of a minor third, for instance), the way we play is adapted to that purpose... that often includes doing something (either holding the thumb higher up or putting more pressure with the thumb) in order to anchor the hand more firmly for those neverending up and down movements. So it stands to reason to me that a lot of actual violinists they grabbed for the extras would do something that is closer to that which is familiar to them. They never learned any other way.
Also, because the style involves so much of this oscillation, the hold is also not similar. We need the instrument to be firmly anchored so that the motions in question can be done consistently, so the standard posture does involve resting the scroll on the ankle and wedging the lower bout against the neck or chest/shoulder. A lot of Indian violinists are not very tall so this works in general, but some taller players might have an attachment they place on the scroll that just adds some extra length so that it suits their body size. But because of this, the absence of shoulder rests is pretty common. They don't serve any purpose with that kind of hold. In fact, neither does the chinrest, and most Indian classical violinists play without one. This also is why you saw the reaching for fine tuners from the opposite side. When your violin is wedged in that way, that angle of approach to the fine tuners makes more sense.
As an additional point, many of these probably Indian classical violinists might be thrown off by the difference in tuning, which could also explain them struggling to hit the "correct" strings. In Indian classical music, there are only two constants -- the tonic and the fifth. All other notes are subject to variation and momentary incidences of being in tune. It's a system in which pitch is *implicit* in effect. As a result, we tune the violin tonic-fifth-tonic-fifth, not in a series of fifths. It also means, that we tune to some pitch based on the performance. Typically, a violinist is going to be an accompanist to a singer, and if that singer happens to sing in E, then we'd tune the strings EBEB... if they sing in C, we do CGCG tuning. As a result, the training for the fingering and when we use which string is attuned to that kind of setup. It's really hard to break out of these habits for anyone because that's what they're used to.
If ever there was an instrument in this universe for which people are set in their ways... it's the violin.
Bish this long AF. Edit: You could make a paper about this in the 5th grade (where I live), and skip up the the 8th grade.
This is so cool!
wow, thank you so much!! my parents want me to play some of their music, but i was like how do i gliss into every freaking note, and i had a feeling the tuning was different but i didn't know how. making them sa-pa-sa-pa makes soo much sense. and my dad tried to hold my violin the indian way and i had to tell him plz no without giving a proper reason so now i can explain why.
(my parents are somewhat trained in hindustani vocal music, my mom somewhat trained in carnatic vocal, and i learned violin basically from school only)
Super interesting! Also Parashar is my last name!!! Hello fellow Parashar
Yas! Hello fellow Carnatic violinist!
After reading some comments, I tried to find some legit Indian Violin vids, and they are totally mind blowing!! So different, and sounds very Indian for me and the music is fascinating too
I really enjoy those Indian musicians play the same instrument with their own style
the violin has ancestry coming from india. there is the sarangi and ravanhattha which are believed to be ancestors of the violin. these instruments have been in india for 1000s of years. i myself am and indian violin student
At this rate these guys are majorly contributing to the polar caps melting with all that roasting...
Maybe the sun happened because Ling Ling kept roasting the Viola King and his sacrilegious army, and that is what will happen to the world if TwoSet keeps roasting.... The reason why Ling Ling practices 40 hours a day is in hope that it will reverse our terrible fate, and we must do the same.
Anni it’s winter here and it’s pretty cold now so I guess that’s why they are doing alot of roasting lmao
G oh ok 8
Even though they live in Australia!
*Bollywood isn't safe*
Asian shows aren't safe
Hollywood, _Brace yourself_
TwoSet Roastviews is coming
So that’s it...
But 'The Pianist' starring by Adrian Brody seems legit... terribly shocked by the movie scenes... legend movie...
Cue 'Jaws' music.
@@JoanKSX its more easier to fake piano playing than it is violin...
This is tollywood(Bengali movie).
But yeah, earlier they had roasted SRK's Mohabbatein. So nothing is safe.
full props to two set... but two words: 'Carnatic Violin' a southern Indian violin style with lots of the 'odd' characteristics mentioned; no shoulder rest, a very front-facing violin hold and a kind of bent wrist leading to a high thumb position. but lots of other stuff was just stoopid editing/dubbing/playing
Met3lAngel it’s called Carnatic style it’s not “wrong.” It’s a cultural difference.
@Met3lAngel Just because an instrument doesn't originate from a country doesn't mean a culture or group can't develop their own style of playing said instrument to add a cultural touch. By classical standards a southern or country style of violin would also be wrong.
Just check it out once , you would love it
Edit : I play the Carnatic violin it's really hard and the tuning of our violin is different , could you please edit your comment and not spread false information
@@MersuneLiku Its true, but why make an inaccurate movie like this
Its true, but why do they had to make an inaccurate movie like this?
There are so many ppl in the comments teaching us more about Indian violin playing, and I just want to say thank you bc I never knew that the playing styles were different (nothing against TwoSet of course🥰)
Same! :)
They are very different: I tried Western violin playing and it was completely different to Indian playing!
Indiands always get insanely triggered under CZcams comments whenever their country isn't celebrated, so no wonders everyone is trying to desperately justify what Eddy and Brett found ridiculous
@@lloydaran no one was triggered... i literally have not seen a single "triggered" comment. most are just explaining the different approach to styles and techniques used in india, which is normal if you want to be educated about different cultures. clearly, you're the ignorant one here who refuses to learn and instead spread misinformation about a community you do not like (do i sense racial bias?). brett and eddy did a roast but are always respectful and willing to learn. the only triggered one i see is you.
@@lloydaran I wouldn't say this. But I think people can find it annoying sometimes when people (twoset) label what you're doing as wrong. When the truth is there is more than one way to do something. That's all really
Okay, so I'm a young adult student violinist from literally the city (Kolkata, India) where this film was shot, and although I don't have professional experience as such, I have performed in youth and student orchestras ( both here in India and in Japan and USA, so I know the contrasts) with other professionals, and I can answer some questions.
1) Most of us, even seasoned professionals, use 4 fine tuners here in India, since the hot and humid climate makes the strings lose tension very often.
2) India doesn't have that much of a vibrant culture for western classical instruments, (cause Indian classical is a whole different genre and it attracts more students), so some of the things you see like wrong bow hold or crooked wrists are due to lack of proper teaching.
3) Same reason why shoulder rests are missing in some of the violins, because believe me, we have just one or two proper luthiers in the entire city of a population of 4.5 million.
3) In film recordings, there are no conductors, just an arranger, who works on behalf of the music director. Sorry, things are not that professional here because western instruments are seldom used here. And yes, that is how they sit too, because of lack of space in studios. (Again, not popular instrument here.)
4) Serving tea in studios: That's just part of the culture of the people of Kolkata.
Also, the main actor is obviously not a violinist, but I guess the backups are. And I don't know why but I feel the need to apologize for all the horrible things here, because I know it is literally a cultural thing.
You don't know how much I wish I could seriously pursue music in an European country or the USA, especially having played abroad and witnessing that culture. I am 22 now and have only been at it for 4 years now, and so I guess my ship has sailed for any prospects of becoming pros like you, but I just wish.
Akash Shaikh if all that’s true then the roast sorta lost its burn
Thank you so much for letting us know!! And I really hope that you can pursue music abroad soon❤
I was hoping someone would say this stuff.
So true.
Everybody did the same “mistakes”, so I began thinking it is culture variations. Thank you for explaining! It’s still a funny video and I learned so much more today than I expected.
i now have gained a lifetime of knowledge about violins and i don't even play one
Same😂😂
Then start playing one and make use of the knowledge you gained and the time you spend on CZcams/Twoset.
Makes sense right?
The reason for awkward violin hold is the traditional indian way of playing it. We usually, for classical playing , rest it on the foot and the shoulder while in sitting position usually on a plain surface instead of a chair. So for most traditional players it really awkward to hold it the western way
yup, it makes it easy for the nuances of indian classical to be played on the instrument- esp gamaks and meend
That’s so true, it’s really hard
After seeing these other comments I think y’all really ought to do a video watching clips of Carnatic violinists
sure go for it......... you can see both Carnatic and Hindustani style of indian classical .
I've started using the term sacrilegious in literally every sentence because of you guys.
I keep saying "I need to practice" a lot more than I used to!
Sacrilege!!!! You blasphemous bastard...
god, i do too. it's a word i didn't even know of before twoset.
I wonder how your friends react to that.
my circle of friends are now twosetters because of me, so we geek it out all the time.
Dont judge
Practice
40 hrs
Sacriligeous
Interesting
Are the words centering my universe
"We haven't played in India"
HMMMM LET'S CHANGE THAT
OH GOSH YESH
Cheers to that
YES PLEASE
YESSSSS
YES PLEASE I WOULD WATCH
I have learned the Indian violin techniques in school so i know "somethings" (only some) that they were doing and actually they are not "wrong" they are just not playing the WESTERN way... its abit more different.... IMPORTANT : The way they tune strings is different too 💣💥 1st string is a D , 2nd string is a G , 3rd string is a F and 4th string is a C... they hold the violin in front like they did and actually they sit on the floor legs crossed with one leg abit in front and they rest the scroll of the violin on the ankle.... Also they dont have CONDUCTORS as far as i hv witnessed.... No offense to twoset violin coz i lovee them 💖💖 but indian cannot be reviewed in the western way cuz they play the EASTERN way ( caranatic music they call it)
P.S. IM not Indian i am sri lankan but we learn the same.... Hope you correct this mistake... LOVE YOU TWO SO MUCH 💖 plus im pretty sure they dont even know what a stradavirius is ( hope the spellings are right) and they DO NOT use shoulder rests at all!!!
Even if they tune differently, they still were playing the wrong string audio for the visual. But thank you for educating us who don't know about these different ways of playing violin!
Hey iam also indian
And know what you are taught in school
Actually school makes violin a publicity stunt to charge more money
You are only taught to make sa re ga ma
No technique like ligatto vibrato or staccato
And Indian music doesn’t have famous composers instead has famous players. There are raagas (pronounced as raag) which are a set of notes which is played in the whole piece. Usually whenever a person plays any raaga they have their own compositions. For example if soloist A plays raaga yaman it doesn’t mean that soloist B’s raaga yaman will be the same piece. Plus people don’t play with sheet music too! Cause the notes- sa re ga ma pa dha ni så is pretty difficult to position on the sheet music.
As a person learning the violin I can tell you there is no such thing as proper violin teaching in schools. You have to go to high level institutes to do so since the teacher do not I repeat do NOT teach you pizzicato, staccato, and stuff like that. I learnt it ALL from twoset. I did not even know stuff like that existed. I DID NOT know much about western classical music but now I can gladly say I know a lot and all the credit goes to these two bois.
@@hxL2_elisa
That's true we have great heritage but the problem is that our fellow Indians are not devoted in classical music
That's the reason for me to choose western classical over Indian music
That's cool information. Thanks for educating us. 😊💖🙏
8:10 Did you notice that guy behind the main character? His bow is gonna *snap* .
"Lesson time with Professor Yang" never gets old, no matter how musically trained you are
Can you guys react to some Indian Classical Violin, where they hold the violin differently?
That's not 'different', that's simply wrong. Idk why our indian players hold it wrong.
Rudra N Roy ok boomer
Why does your comment say it was posted 9 months ago? Smh probably just another glitch
They did react to it in one video
I think they have see it
Perform in India! Not sure whether there'll be a large audience, since "western classical music" isn't so popular here (As compared to Indian classical)..... But at least I'd be there!
BRO ME TOO I DONT CARE FOR TRAVELLING BUT I WOULD PESTER THE HECK OUT OF MY FAMILY FOR THIS-
FR FR THE WAY I WISH I CAN SEE THEM
I'm indian and I love western classical and my parents are like "convert to Christianity" what the fuck...
@Chandra yea it is
@@puszzydestroyr69yesthatsga7 why does western classical music equate to Christianity i-
GUYS! My speculation is that most of these actors in the recording studio are CARNATIC violin players. Google it...they hold the violin in a completely different way and Carnatic playing doesn’t require a shoulder rest!
Also I’m British Indian and not offended- it was a good roast haha!
Most violinists: Get bruises from practicing for too long.
Brett and Eddy, the intellectuals: Get bruises from roasting and slapping their faces for too long.
Out of context, this is very strange
@@harryrees627 Like pretty much all TwoSet memes/jokes😂
Hey I’m actually early for once
now analyze henry lau, twosetters have already invaded him.
Yes
Yus
Yes
It is indeed hilarious seeing Twosetters comments all around youtube these days
Twosetters don't forget
Also Indians have to drink tea every 5 minutes.
Guest come over give tea
Studying drink tea.
Sick drink green tea
Bored drink tea.
Indians worship the tea XD
True😂 ♥️
literally was drinking tea when I came across this comment 😂 Indians love their chai
I just had tea and saw this comment.
Same here in Sri Lanka, I live with a teacup
😂😂
Production team: Can we get a violin player?
Studio: No, we have a violin player at home.
Violin player at home:
Affirmative.
You guys should review the Indian style of playing violin as well.
+1
That would be interesting! Because its quite different from western styles
yeah!! i’ve played both Indian and western and they’re so different, i would love to see what they think of indian classical violin :)
Yes , many Indian violin players hardly use a shoulder rest .
Yesss!!
You'll never run out of content once you start with Indian movies.
You'll never run out of content, subscribers, offended people and people who say why to shouldn't be offended
We Indians are weird lol
AHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA AS AN INDIAN I LOVE THIS COMMENT AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
And that's a Fact
Oof...👌
u can make a 10-20 minute video making fun of a 2-5 minute scene of an indian movie and/or tv series
Some background information: I'm a half-Tamizhian who was raised mostly in Australia and America, so I'm severely used to seeing people use the western posture/bow hold when playing the violin. That said, I'm also a Carnatic concert singer and many years I have performed with a violinist. It is jarring at first when you see the stark juxtaposition between Western and Carnatic postures but you can't blame them for it as they're not obligated to play it like the westerners. Carnatic music has its own fine sound and qualities, and as such they have their own ways of doing what they do. It's like comparing a Carnatic singer to an American Pop singer and saying that the voice caliber is too thick and telling the singer they should change.
We don't want to nor---do we need to---change. But that's just my two cents.
3:18 "who tunes like that??"
Me: *slowly raises hand in shame*
shame shame shame shame
i liked it right before i even get to watch it
Sameee
Me2
I think we all do
Same here ✌
Same
brett: i've done multiple recordings with professional orchestras
me with a notepad: tell me more, senpai, for, uh, research purposes
Does anyone else hyper analyze violin players in movies/TV shows because of two set?? 😂
i was JUST explaining to my parents about the difference between western and indian violin! i have to admit i found indian sacrilegious at first, but after reading these comments i am understanding so much! i still think western is better, but i suppose i just lack experience in the indian style.
aside from just posture differences, the whole music theory behind it is different. it's more like playing based on modes(called raags), while polyphony and stuff isn't as much of a big deal. i'd say it's like a single ribbon being twirled around in exquisite patterns, while western is like that parachute game you play in elementary school where each ripple grows and connects to others. even in solo pieces there is more of a framework and overall structure to the piece, while indian it's all improv, going back to the main line, another totally different improv, main line, repeat
tbh i'm a noob in violin, indian music, and music theory, but as someone who at least has their foot in the door for all 3, i wanted to offer my pov.
Yes! Western and indian classical music theory are so different.
I think the lack of polyphony is what makes indian music so hard to get used to. But after understanding indian music theory, practicing ragas, and looking at improvs that last for 20-45 minutes, ive found carnatic music to be so much personal, strong, raw, and passionate. Especially carnatic violins and cello recitals and jugalbandis, they're so addictive when you keep listening to them.
a loOot of issues with syncing, bowings, fingerings, AND -TEA- CHAI but I think a bit of what the boys observed (thumbs, violin angle/placement) was Carnatic violin technique. The more you know🌈✨
Please be kind to OneSetMic... He's my bias and I don't want you guys to hurt him :(
Oh no! But he is my bias too...
Indian violinists tune their violin differently than others.. bcz we don't have alphabetical notation, we have a different notation like sa re ga ma pa, etc. so yes tuning A G is right
4:01 Awwh, they missed the chance to say "PrioriTEAS"
I am an Indian and I thoroughly enjoyed the roast! 😂
P.S: it's a decent movie nonetheless! 😄
Ha me too...as an Indian, I loved the roast!!!
I laughed way more then I should at the roast
I’m Bangladeshi and I enjoyed it too XD
Soumava Das I thought the movie was wEiRd
I am not an Indian and I enjoyed the roast too.
Hi TwoSetViolin, in India violins are played differently in 3 different major classical schools of music.
1. Ofcourse western classical
2. Carnatic or South Indian Classical
3. Hindustani or North Indian classical
Now, the tuning, the postures and the technic varies. Please check it out. I am not saying that "The Violin Player" got it right. But in case you are curious check out violin concerts on CZcams by N Rajam. A good recording would be the "Jashn-e-deccan" concert which I had the fortune of listening live in Hyderabad. The tabla was by Pandit Samar Saha. Check it out.
*You will not believe how long I have been looking for this, being an Indian.*
Can we just talk about this guy in the background has his bow so tight it looks like its gonna break!? 8:09
The last time I was this early Brett still had dreams
I have worked closely with the lead actor in this film. He is a brilliant actor, but I'm sure he would love some criticism.
I'll make sure to show this to him.
Manjis Kar he will love criticism...?
Sophia The Midget constructive criticism can be v helpful to improve yr craft
Interesting!! You can probably make a video of his reaction!!
Uploading my violin playing
CZcams:want to cancel?
Me :No
Twoset: you sure?
Me: Never mind
This is a very good representation...BUT they are playing the violin in a Indian style which means that they tune and play the violin different than the American version. I would know cuz I am a violinist from India.
Guys you always upload when my practice session ends. How do you do that????
Wait, I found the reason:
*I literally stop practising to watch your video*
g o b a c k t o p r a c t i s e
They usually upload in the middle of my practice session, and since I don't bring a phone/laptop down, I don't realize it😂
Stolen comment
@@kucicg Nope. It was me. I will write it for all the videos untill I get 1k likes.
Practice while you watch.
Lessons with professor Bharadwaz:
In India, there is Indian classical music where the violin just so happens to be used, but as it is a different genre the way it is used will also be different. In Indian classical, the violinists sit and play, while the scroll faces the ground and not the side, hence their angle in which they were playing in the film. This also explains the shoulder rest "problem". Also the way they hold the bow is different; the wrist is bent, but they definitely don't hold it the way the guy in the first scene did.
Aside from all of this, the rest is all bad directing.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk :)
My grandfather was an Indian classical violinist and played the violin for over 70 years till he died in his 90s. He was good. You don't sustain or survive bad music that long. First time i saw a shoulder rest was on TwoSetViolin though he did use a chin rest. I was too young to remember, but he used the violin as you guys use it as well as a different style where it was more vertical, like the musicians in this video, which i remembered only after seeing this. As a kid, the violin was too big for me, so I mostly learned in the vertical style only (though nothing major, just generally being able to find a note on it or simple tunes that weren't too fast). Even then, it was too big for me and my wrist ached if I played it for a long time. That much I remember. Haven't held a violin in decades, so no idea what it feels like with a grown up body. lol.
Edited to add: Just read that others familiar with violins and Indian classical music have actually explained this better - which I did not know myself. I still struggle to translate CDEF... notes to Sa-re-Ga_ma... which I am used to. lol. But Ling Ling is no stranger to Indian classical music. 40 hours a day is what it takes here too. heck, being a good listener and understanding what is going on in its glory can take 40 hours a day. lol
Pretty sure all the background artists are real violinists but are probably trained in the Carnatic style of playing violin, where the whole posture and the way you hold your violin is ENTIRELY different .
As a south Indian myself one of my violinist friends told me it's pretty awkward for her to hold the violin in the western way at first too :P
PS:
Please do a reaction video to carnatic violinists ! that would be pretty cool..
would highly recommend this video. The artist's name is Charumathi Raghuraman and she's a wonderful artist !
czcams.com/video/UE51-YNs5do/video.html
Here she plays an 'Aalaapana' (pronounced "ah-La-puh-na") . It's a part of the concert performance where the artist improvises and develops a tune in a particular Raaga ( similar to a scale ) which introduces the raaga, and it's defining features to the audience this is usually don before playing a song .
But in this video she does this through three raaga's seamlessly. Sort of Like a mashup of songs..?
omigosh, i really wish twoset reacts to this. i love Charumathi's perfomances and i it would be fun to see twoset reacting to some actual, talented people who showcase indian classical music.
@@vidu8925 yep! it would be really interesting even if they collaborated on a video with someone from the Indian Classical scene
Indians and chai(Tea) can never stay away from each other😂😂😂😂 I know this since I am an Indian...not surprised to sea tea inside the studio,😂😂😂
Yeah, Russians love Chai as well! Especially Indian (Ceylon) one
_says they're not a roast channel_
_uploads 4 roast videos in a row_
_still didn't upload a video on Henry Lau_
I swear if you guys don't end this roast series with Henry Lau, Imma go and practice only 39 hours
Chaitanya Singh you know they did, right? (Henry vid)
Don’t confuse your self between criticism and roasting . The two are completely different.
I think they did buddy
"soloists do play without soloists"
Indeed they do, Eddy. Indeed they do.
3:00 What the hell did the editor write to the strings??
Can not believe i'm saying this, but i miss violin charades.
LOL the best comment
5:50 please do
Im an indian and waiting for you to organize a show in India
Ps. Now that you have started with India pls review the traditional violin playing there
Twosetviolin I am an Indian and they r carnatic musicians and they play it very differently and they r playing correctly according to the eastern methods
"A lot of old school soloists do play without soloists"
-Eddy 2020
Eddy : We have never played in India before
Me : Plz come!!!
In indian classical way we actually dont use the chin rest in most cases becuase we sit with our legs folded and pace the end part of violin on our feet so we should use the fine tuner the other way....even if we play it in standing posture aka using chin rest, we dont use the shoulder rest most of the times...using shoulder rest is somewhat like showing that you cant use or handle the violin properly in here...All violinists in india moslty play without shoulder rest
@My Perfume Stories there's a similar instrument in Indian classical
@@gauripande9273 but not violin lol
They are playing violin using Carnatic Indian classical style. Just because you learn violin using the western style, does not mean you have the right to roast the community who plays violin in different style than you.
"It's fascinating to note how on encountering a new genre of music for the first time by expecting something that you're really familiar with to be present, you can miss the whole subtlety of the genre completely." - David Murphy.
For the adventurous violinists who like to explore, : czcams.com/video/Ol_M2cEyOt8/video.html - It's a good series.
“HAS THE TEA GUY BROUGHT TEA?” I CANT BREATHEKSJSJSJS like that’s when you k n o w you’re in a desi orchestra
Chai ftw
_How timely!_ I just picked up my sister who just came from India. Ling Ling has connected us!
I was still a young violin player, and never saw the mistakes. Now, I also see all the mistakes
"So that the conductor can do his usual beating"
That has two meanings and both work
3:36 ARMY IS THRIVING RN😂 SO when are you gonna teach Taehyung how to play the violin?
He is actually pretty good at playing.
we need more lesson with professor yang and chen
Literally so confused for a moment when he showed the G, I, C and F "strings "
Hey im an indian and now i know why i never heard of this movie ... 😂😂😂😂its ok guys your doing great job 👍👍👍👍 keep up
8:09 DID YALL SEE THAT GUY AT THE BACK?? HIS BOW IS GONNA SNAP
YASS TWO SET ROAST!! I'm so ready for this to get destroyed
4:47 omg davie use that
“So the conductor can do his usual beating” 😏
I want to y'all to check out how an indian classical violin is played
All yer minds'll be doin backflips
So true 😂. Honestly, Carnatic violinists astound me with their playing
Do a video about learning violin on masterclass please.
People in the movie: *get everything wrong*
Eddy: *casually plays the chords by himself by just hearing the piece*
Eddy- "BIG TUNER VERSUS SMALL TUNER
When you're hungry- "BIG TUNA VERSUS SMALL TUNA
10:33
*"iT's nOT jUsT ThE viOLiN We'RE PlAyiNG ToNiGhT"*
@Guest "It gets a bit weird," Brett says. That means that the dude probably got on AGT and started stripping-
Hey Eddy and Brett, I know how this looks, but PLEASE DO COME TO INDIA STILL 😭😂 love you ❤️
I'm not Indian, but it would be so cool if they could tour there! Please go there TwoSet if you can!! :)
@@theresawood8378 that's really sweet of you :')
YAS PLS Twoset India tour needs to be a thing.
8:00 THE BOW IN THE BACKGROUND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PROTAGONISTS FACE, IT HURTS
*slightly enthused* : Welcome!! to another episo--
*gives up* : ugh
*hi :))*
You should react to 'Le grand blond avec une chaussure noire' it's a VERY SACRILEGIOUS MOVIE
I just searched it up, and it already looks sacrilegious :)
Me: *Missed 1% of halftone*
TwoSetViolin: *ROASTED*
How a real musician lives:
Practices, practices, practices some more and watches Two set videos.
The Windows sound effects remain the greatest edit you guys add in these roasts
TwoSet: we're not a roasting channel
Meanwhile all the vids after they said that *ARE* ROASTING VIDS XD
TwoSet: We're not a viola channel
Do i dare say the next part?
Theresa Wood omg u would never 😳🤭
@@Hi_Mark All of TwoSet's vids from now on will praise the wonderful thing that is the viola
Theresa Wood yOu aRe cAncElleD frOm beiNg AmAzing
@@Hi_Mark My sAcRiLeGiOuSnEsS has reached Viola King level :)
Lol I am an Indian and I am a violin begginer......😂🤣😂
You should also roast a violin scene in a short film called 'narthana'
Wow 29 likes????
Mom I am famous....
OMG 71 likes!!!!thx guyss!!!
Whoa, fellow Indian twosetter
They're questioning the logic in a Bollywood movie. I find some problems with this.
Also the scene in kal ho na ho 😂😂
Wait so all of you are Indians into "western classical music"?
@@josephsamuel9409 yup it's been a year since I started seeing these guys...
"a lot of old school soloists play without soloists er- shoulder rests"
Stray note: It is really weird to hear so many Indians dissing Indian violin training because they did not learn western techniques. There are things Indian classical music does (violin included) that drop jaws worldwide. It cannot be your teacher's fault that you didn't practice 40 hours to get there. No school makes you good. They teach you techniques. You need to put in the 40 hours for the Ling Ling insurance in Indian classical music too. As for not doing the vibrato, etc - I am pretty damn certain you are speaking of Hindustani classical (which prefers pure notes and sees vibrato as an impure fluctuation), because carnatic music does not just do vibrato, it uses vibrato-like oscillations between completely different notes that can stump Western Musicians.
I am not trained in any kind of music, just very interested and I know this, so those who claim to have trained not knowing this basically says they were either sleeping in class or they don't admire something unless they see it done by foreigners on CZcams. This is with no disrespect to Western classical music - also a huge fan of TwoSetViolin. Merely pointing out that getting good with ANYTHING requires a skill level, which takes 40 hours a day - I truly love this theme going on with this channel. It conveys the commitment to learning perfectly. Watching vibrato on CZcams won't teach you vibrato any more than classical training taught you nothing beyond sa-re-ga-ma (major scale, I believe - in Western Music)
i couldnt agree more :)
@@electric7487 glissando is a totally different concept. You're gliding between preset notes. That's not how Carnatic music works.
someone: let's roast ling lin...
someone: RIP
I’m kinda impressed how often you two drop something xD
Your bows or shoulderrests....
And then: respect your instrument guys!!
3:46 the bow hold is different as the usual style of playing violin in carnatic music is while sitting on the ground with the scroll touching the ground (as one can OBVIOUSLY notice in any carnatic performance that includes a violin) unlike the hold followed by western classical of using the shoulder
4:35 again the difference in positioning the violin in carnatic music unlike the western method leads to such differences
5:15 AGAIN the people who have learned and performed violin sitting on the ground is made to sit on chairs and so the positioning is definitely going to be different
6:41 UNORTHODOX in western classical....the western classical violin hold may seem unorthodox to carnatic violinists too
6:46 OBVIOUSLY no shoulder rests as the don't use the shoulder to hold the violin in carnatic music (as mentioned above)
7:08 (don't want to repeat) thanks for once again noticing the apparent difference in the violin hold the everyone seems to be doing the exact same way
(also in the beginning, about the string sounding different....thats coz the violin is tuned differently too in carnatic music)
So far nothing seemed to be a trigger for a 19 year old Indian who has the maximum of 5 years learning western classical violin but this-
10:31 "yet to see a real violin player"
Yes, I can see the man portrayed as the protagonist is definitely faking it but the people around him playing violin has learned carnatic violin to some extend (as can be seen in the UNORTHODOX way of their violin hold)
So you see, as a genuine and sincere fan of TwoSetViolin, what disappointed me is the fact that they decided to review a violin performance that included Indian violinists yet knew nothing about carnatic music which is (more or less) extremely different compared to the western classic you amazing guys excel to the point of amazement to me.
Had you just looked up a mere 5 minute video on carnatic violin performance and then did this review it would have seemed like an actual genuine review AND not a roast session that people in general like to hear for, as mere content for your channel.
I truly love your channel and watching it do motivate me to practice a little harder than yesterday but this is outright ignorance.
Definitely appreciate your videos and content but hope this humble request to atleast gather the basic knowledge on things you don't know before you review it, is taken the right way.
Judging and reviewing on certain things without prior knowledge about it....not so different from the scenes showing wrong playing of violin that you roast regularly is it?
Regards,
A sincere TwoSetViolin fan :)
Ikr I have been watching them for a long time and only just stumbled accross this video and I wish they had done some genuine research because Carnatic Violin music is also so beautiful and obviously different from the western style.
When I originally went to watch the movie I actually noticed a lot of the things you guys mentioned, but it was interesting to see the things I missed like the part at the end where he played the open string
I’m only one second in and can already smell the smoke....🎻🔥
That's inTeREsTiNg. I feel attacked as a violin playing Indian.
I love your videos guys!
Being a music nerd myself - and as a violin player (I play mostly guitar, bass and keyboard nowadays.) I love how you guys roast these kinds of things!
If you can roast slowly, you can roast quickly.
Also, does anyone else love it when regular Brett transforms into Professor Brett? (Especially with the added blazer😊)