Aventurine Vs Fu Xuan: Who Is The BEST?
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Aventurine is ALMOST here in Honkai: Star Rail! He will be released within literally 1 day! I really like pretty much everything about his new, fresh character design.
But today, we need to answer the question: Fu Xuan Vs. Aventurine: WHO is the best preservation unit? Follow this video and you too will know the answer. Let me know if you're going to be pulling for him, and good luck if you are! Make sure to Subscribe for that E6 Aventurine Luck.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro (What a Year!)
00:35 - Criteria & Rules
01:05 - Fu Xuan Kit Analysis
02:49 - Fu Xuan Recap
03:09 - Aventurine Kit Analysis
04:55 - Direct Comparison!
05:30 - How Does It Work In Meta?
07:00 - Who Is Easier To Build?
08:40 - Are They F2P Friendly?
09:28 - Preservation Cone Breakdown
10:05 - BOTH Units Are Future Proof!
10:44 - So WHO Is The BEST? Recap!
11:24 - BUILD Who YOU Want To Build!
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When u have both characters, no fears for you
True!! Game is so comfy with that!
at that point ur just bullying the enemies cuz they become sispohys sysophes OMG WHAT IS HIS NAME???
@@SunshinelollipsandrainbowsSisyphus
If they enemy is very lucky they might kill you after a year or so of trying.... unless you run Fu Xuan, Aventurine and a healer like Huo Huo 😈 damage no longer exists
ask a full peservation team if they know damage
Aventurine: Can tank massive AOE damage but suffer with massive ST damage from enemy.
Fuxuan: Can tank massive ST damage but suffer with massive AOE damage from enemy.
Both have their usage, be like me and pull both of them.
I have enough nightmare seeing fuxuan get killed in SU Conundrum. Those monster at torturous level make MOC 12 felt like a child play.
Very true. I will be pulling for FX rerun too
Aventurine doesn't suffer from single target damage
@@Cocxy69 yes he does. The mechanic works that way. You probably havent try those conundrum run on highest level.
@@isaac7272 I have and yea the other guy is right when he takes ST damage it aint that bad considering he can just put a massive ammount of shield back onto himself and stack it with his old shield that he made for his teammates and himself. he doesnt take it as good as Fu xuan but he def doesnt suffer from it
@@projectmega9532 he does in case of aoe the follow up stacks increse quickly so does his shield gets a re stack but st damage does not increase his foa stack that well in some scenerio ally dies before you could manually restack your sheild when you use him you have confidence that his shield will get re stacked so you don't use sp all the time which some time becomes his allies downfall
The ER buff for allies applies to EVERYONE that has the shield. So for example if your entire team has the shield they will all get the buff
Oh my goodness 😳😳 thanks for the clarification
Gallager does the same without the shield anyway.
@@Cba409 only if he uses his Skill with E2, and even then you're basically wasting an SP (less SP positive), only gain 30% ER on a single ally and it only last 2 turns
@@Cba409 without the shield, but with a skillpoint and is even less effect res lol
@@Chi_ffre no, he dont need skill point. E1 does it. And it is the same +50% value as aventurine. E2 is dispel and +30%. So gallager gives more effect res than aventurine (up to 80%) and can dispel.
All allies get the 50 Percent ER buff.
Well holy hell 😮 (wish the wording was better) but that's CRAZY
aventurine gets inmunity to cc i think
@@bandi642True, however Fu Xuan makes it to where at least one debuff doesn't get applied once per skill, on all Allies. However Aventurine just breaks the Meta. Fu Xuan has a major weakness. If your team gets hit with a strong AOE she basically dies.
Edit: Also Aventurine works with literally everybody. Unlike Fu Xuan, Aventurine has debuffs for debuffs focused teams, he has follow up attacks for follow up attacks oriented teams, and he applies a shield which allows him to utilize the most underrated path in SU preservation. Before I forget he also works with Yanqing since Yanqing will never lose HP.
@@The_Jragon yeah fu xuan is undoubtely better against debuffs aventurine has a bit but is luck based(apropiared for aventurine) plus free broken keel requirement.
aventurine excells against aoe and fu xuan against single target
@@bandi642 Aventurine still excels against single target I would argue even better. What I meant is that he can apply a debuff for lets say Acheron and Dr. Ratio to increase their potency.
I feel like were going to see a crazy video where someone uses Adventurines LC on March to do DPS March.
"Check out this awesome move" -- does 300k damage 😂😂
My question is less "who is best?" and more "will they do?". So if a unit I have can do the job, I'm all good. Not the best doesn't equate to garbage. Also frees you up to go with the characters you prefer 👍🏻
That's a good way to think about it! I have the problem of wanting all the shiny new characters 😂😂
March 7th is doing her job then
“Will they do?” Yes march 7th applies shields
@@santabakure6264I don't think that's what they mean...
@@santabakure6264 march isn't even bad too. she (and preservation mc) can sustain me pretty well in moc, as someone who doesn't have gepard/fu xuan
@@santabakure6264i mean… yeah? There’s a ton of videos of people using march in all the gamemodes hardest tiers.
i feel like him having follow up attacks is going to be really good in a lot of content both moc and pf,where we get sometimes things related to hit more or follow up attack to get this and that owo
Definitely! The buffs of those will work great with his kit 🙂
Really good video. I was not gonna pull for him and was considering it but seeing the other character. I want to save for her instead. Thank you for the video and it helped me make up my mind.
Glad it helped!!! 🙏
I think something that should also be on the table for discussion is simulated universe (in this case especially). As it gets updated over time we will probably see new gamemodes/lore expansions for it (like Swarm Disaster and Gold & Gears), that will most likely increase in difficulty. Something that I heard of a lot with regards to Fu Xuan (I say "heard of" because I started the game after her banner and therefore don't posess her), is that she struggles immensly with Gold and Gears, because of big AOE nuke attacks from the plane bosses. Because she redirects all the damage to herself she will in those (inevitable) scenarios be guaranteed to die.
Aventurine on the other hand provides shields, which protect not only his allies but also himself. On top of that you get to make use of all the preservation blessings as well, and if you fully commit to them, you can even make him be the main damage source if you're feeling funny. Speaking from personal experience, Gepard is an absolute monster in SU with the correct blessings, and Aventurine is pretty much Gepard+++ ultra max pro.
Taking this into consideration and the fact that, as you already stated, both are perfectly fine for either MOC and pure fiction, having this extra use case, where you can just comfortably play an entire additional gamemode, that will be expanded upon in the future, I personally would put my money on Gamba man.
Edit: Also solid video btw.
Excellent addition. Aventurine is going to be so insane for G+G, and its a fair guess to say he will dominate (yes I chose my words carefully 😳) the future modes they talked about in the Livestream.
I so can't wait to see how cracked his teams are , especially preservation path - since I almost never used that 😂
@@GachaMogul highly recommend preservation path. If you get the setup right (mainly anything that is related to quake damage and anything that makes your shields bigger) you just watch your enemies killing themselves.
Very high entertainment value 👌
Gold and gears is irrelevant because there are several cheese methods. I am WAY below being able to finish gold and gears and yet managed to beat the final boss in the tier 5 difficulty for gold and gears in 30 seconds, with the boss not being able to move a single time in all 3 phases using the Capitalist method.
@@GachaMogul Aren't there literal cheese methods meaning it really won't matter either way? I'm way underleveled for G&G and using the capitalist method I still beat the final phase for tier 5 in 35 seconds. I mean unless we're talking about someone wanting to do G&G without cheesing for some reason.
@@Shadow72eapers That is a valid point. However, there is not really a guarantee for that to still be a thing in future SU game modes. Plus preservation path quake dmg is also something easily achieved through capitalism and grants you immortality and absurd amounts of damage through your immortality, which is something that Aventurine (and Gepard for that matter) enable. It is a safe strategy that works for multiple if not all SU gamemodes and should in theory have at least some longevity to it, as it doesn't hinge on needing the transaction cheese.
And sadly, Fu Xuan cannot enable that.
So while it's true that for Gold and Gears specifically you can circumvent this through transaction cheese, double Ruan Mei or an unholy amount of gambling, the precedent that was laid out by it for Fu Xuan makes me hesitent to pull for her. This may also just be a me thing though, because I spend most of my time in SU, which is why I would want to pull for units where I am absolutely certain that they will have a use case there.
Also just as a character I don't like her that much but that's a different topic of discussion.
Also a question if you happen to know: does Fu Xuan's protection also redirect DoT to herself? It's one of those weird things where DoTs may or may not just ignore certain protections (like on trotters that have a preservation barrier), but I do know for a fact that if a character is shielded, the DoT has to eat through the shield first.
I’m living life knowing I have both of these characters, looks like I won’t have to worry about sustains any longer
Nice! 🙏
Your videos are really entertaining, I watched all the way to the end. I thought I was watching a creator with at least 10k subs. Pleasantly surprised. Subbed! ❤
Thank you so much for the amazing words 😭 I'm glad that you enjoyed it! ♥️
I've been playing with Fu Xuan since her release, but there's just too much leverage on her HP for survivability. Her HP tanks with any team-wide damage, and if she dies, the entire team dies shortly after (on harder content like Gold and Gears Conundrum mode). I'm looking forward to how the shields play out.
Fair. I'm expecting aventurine to be quite good, especially in Gold and Gears and the like!
Moc is not everything in this game. Fx is good in Moc because it force you to finish in under 10 cycle, meanwhile G&g and Swarm has a lot of hard hitting enemies, not to mention aventurine give shields and not mitigate a damage, which means he would be cracked with the preservation buff
@@arumi9410 Only for those modes we have cheesing strategies which work with even Fire Trailblazer. And if you have Gepard, which is a standard unit, it becomes downright easy.
That, and the fact that allies still take damage a bit too often despite how limited it is and her healing isn’t good enough. In long battles, that becomes a problem as you cannot build good defence and hp for every character if you want them to be the best at what they specialize at. With high enough defence, Aventurine’s shield is essentially infinite as a new shield is added every time Aventurine does a follow up attack which happens often, and if you get E1 where ultimates create shields, it’s even more infinite although ultimates do speed up the follow up attack process so it’s not the most necessary thing. That said, if the enemies break through the shields before it gets regened, that damage cannot be healed by Aventurine although in simulated universe there are blessings that facilitate health regen so it’s fine luckily.
I Like aventurine but it doesn't fit me well on my main acc. with high speed character his shield just gone especially jl or anything that requires action forward.
I've been needing this answer tysm
Glad it helped!! 🙏🙏
Insanely well made video man! Info was great and loved the editing. Keep it up!
Thank you so much!!! ♥️ I'm glad you enjoyed it 🙌
I'm looking forward pull for Fu Xuan when she comes back but I love Aventurine and hope that everybody pulling for him win their 50/50! He's an amazing character in both gameplay and lore
True! Aventurine wanters will be aventurine havers! ♥️
Very informative. 👍
Glad it helped 🙏🙏
This is a very well-made and well-researched video! Definitely subbing, you deserve it.
Also, I was thinking about who to get for my acheron-silverwolf-blackswan combo, and i think both fuxuan and aventurine could work tbh. If i go aventurine, I might have to replace BS with pela or an SP positive unit. BUT the main point that I love about aventurine with acheron is the 18% crit dmg increase buff. Thats amazing, especially since my acheron has enough crit rate already. But on the other hand, FX is a quantum unit that pairs well with SW. Also, her E1 increases crit dmg by 30%. ARGGG this is a hard decision.
Anyway, great vid!! lol
Ahhh thank you so much!! Lol ♥️ That's a tough choice ! I think Aventurine will have the slight edge in nihility teams since he offers a debuff for Acheron stacks :D (2 with trend of universal market).
Why are you so underrated, wtf im subbing
Thank you so much!! ♥️
Agreed, I like the unrobotic/human and unmonotone-like voice over tbh
"Very strong dps" is an overstatement. Bro does some damage, nowhere near an actual dps character unless you whale for eidolons.
Oh definitely. He will slot into sub dps, but for a pres unit? It's very strong
@@GachaMogul Sub DPS is a reach as well. He can't do similar damage to Welt. He does more damage than other sustains and that's it
@@dvornikovalexeimy aventurine does 44k with each follow up attack, welt doesn’t do that 😳
I'm gonna try pulling for both, hopefully I have enough time to save after aventurine
I'm guessing FX will be back in 2.2 since only her and topaz are left for reruns before argenti Huohuo. Best of luck 🙏
and why not both, I go for both aventurine and fu xuan 💪🏻
The true goat move! 💪💪
I was gonna skip this this banner and save steller jades....but seeing the boss for 2.2 gotta start prepping. Also glad that lynx is one of the boosted 4 star since im building her for the fight too.
Lynx is the saving grace for 4 stars 🙏 I don't need the other 2 :/
Good video dude.
Thank you very much! Big fan of you Cooler Daniel ♥️
Thanks man, this video rly answered my concern. Any info when is fu xuan rerun btw?
pretty soon 😂
Should be next patch unless they go to argenti / huohuo. I'm glad the video helped ♥️
I have E1S1 FX since her release. After that, I got E0S1 HuoHuo. They are the best sustainers in the game for now (before Aventurine release, maybe). Crit buffs from FX and especially from her E1 (top 1-2 first eidolon on sustainers) really hits different for me because it's really massive buff for all team members and also for FX. Her HP scaling, crit rate in traces and buff from matryx made from her real sub-dd (12k from basic attack and dome damage from ultimate, I really don't remember how much is that). Full def-builded Aventurine on videos from beta-server made the same damage with FUA on whole board. With Crit Damage body and/or IMG damage sphere his sustainability not so good. And I don't think that full crowd-controll res from FX can compare to 50% ER. It's just much better
I wish I had Huohuo 😭 instead I got yanqing (and I'm in pain)
Im a new player and i have Acheron with her signature lightcone and Jingliu as my main dps. I also have E1 Welt, Bronya, the free Dr. Ratio and Bailu (from losing the Aventurine 50/50). Im currently at 64 guaranteed pity and have around 20 pulls and not sure if i should continue trying for Aventurine or save for Fu Xuan now since she is reruning next patch. The two teams i am currently using are Acheron, Pela, Welt & Gallagher for the first team and Jingliu, Bronya, Lynx and Fire Trailblazer for my second team. I currently completed 5 MoC floors with all stars but i think i might be stuck now (and i can only get 2 stars for the second stage of Pure Fiction). Any suggestions?
Being new , you have an AMAZING dps for Jingliu there. Aventurine in my opinion would work better for her and the nihility team you got going on. Generally leveling up , getting stronger relics, etc should be the main focus for now, don't worry too much about the MoC yet, that'll come as you get stronger. That being said, for your current teams I would lean Aventurine!
My Moc 12 team this round was
First team
Kafka, Black Swan, Bailu, Ruan Mei.
Second team
Acheron Pela AV Sparkle
(For reference I also love JL, but she struggles slightly against the new boss). Units wise you're not doing bad at all!
I'm gonna use Aven on the sim stuff where my fu xuan gets deleted on the bosses aoe
Great idea! I can't wait to see CRAZY aventurine SU Teams
I not have any problems with her in su stuff, she works well and with archon i anywhere delete all opponents before they can do something and with fu xuan and sparkle we have a lot of free critvalue
@@MHa-ok8vq He is talking about high levels of Swarm Disaster and Gold and Gears
@@paulobernardes9832 I only witnessed that problem when I tried gold and greats conondrum. 😭 fortunately, I paired her with Aventurine and March and got 46k shield. Argenti can't do shit!
I'm currently puzzled too. My sustain that I used are Luocha, Gepard (sometimes Bailu). I got a variety of DPS such as DHIL, Kingyuan, Kafka, Clara, Xueyi, Acheron. Currently on 40 pity 50/50 with 60 warps left. Any suggestions ?
That's a pretty solid set of characters! Luocha is very good and will get through pretty much anything. I think for your teams it will just be rounding them out with the supports: i.e. harmony units or other ones they synergize with! Units like bronya, ruan Mei are very strong, (Pela for Acheron as a 4 star example)! Hope this helps!
@@GachaMogul Thanks for the suggestion! I already have all the supports tho (except Sparkle because saving for Acheron). Might wait 5 star Pela or any broken unit 😂.
thanks a lot for this. i was worried lol cus i have a lot of built imaginary characters (DHIL, luocha, welt and ratio) and i also have jingyuan so... i was thinking if it would be better to pull for aventurine for mono but also i worry that it would be hard to make weakness breaks when all u got is imaginary T.T (i still cant decide for the life of me since im f2p)
Breaks are good, but in my opinion it comes down to more "do you need sustain and a bit more damage?" DHIL is tough to play since his extreme skill point usage - but cranks out nutty damage. As f2p it's important to build around who you want to! AV can definitely help if you run him with speed to get skill points back and keep those units alive, but depends if you need more harmony/buffers, etc! ♥️ Glad the video helped though
For Jing Yuan, hands down Fu Xuan is best. Luocha is great for IL team because he doesn't use SP
Both, one is quantum and no shields but dmg mitigation, one is imaginary with shields and follow ups too
Yes! Depending on when FX reruns Ill probably try again!
11:16 acheron and black swan dance starts
Yes! Great catch 🦢
I have Aventurine, he's amazing, so much better than my other sustains which are Gepard and Lynx.
Do you think it's worth pulling Fu Xuan for my roster? My built dps are Black Swan, Jing Yuan and Blade.
Hmmm. I think for those dps it's better to focus on some other units! Units that can make them stronger and fill out your teams now! (Ruan Mei or other good harmony, more different dps, etc!)
both are great characters and there is no need to think about between those two which one is the greatest and which one to pull. If u like it, pull for it.
Exactly. I will probably get both too xd
I've noticed there hasn't really been any videos comparing Aventurine to Gepard. They seem to me like the most obvious direct comparisons since Av and FX work in fairly different ways.
Sadly gepard just gets so heavily power crept 😔 not to say he isn't usable , but these two just provide so much more
Aventurine gives better shield value then Gepard with his Skill meanwhile Gepard Needs his ultimate to rely on shields........and also he's a standard banner character anyway ofcourse he will powercrept.......just like Bronya when Sparkle arrives.......
@@GachaMogul ngl i love gepard just because his ult animation is insanely satisfying and honestly one of my favourites in the game lol
does it even need any comparison? Aventurine is so much better than Gepard it's not even a competition. Gepard is not even in the same ball park. Like Aventurine is comparable to FX, even better in many aspects (FX only really has her more consistent CC prevention as being better than Aventurine tbh) gepard is just insignificant
@@leonidesbabanto1585 Aventurine is more dps oriented while Fu Xuan is a support. (Avent buffs himself more while FX buffs her teammates more) One thing they have in common is they do big pp damage when built as a dps!
I'm still pulling for Fu Xuan although the hype to pull for Acheron and Aventurine is tempting as a F2P Fu Xuan will fit well in my team with Seele, SW and Bronya
Oh that will be an amazing team. Seele is the one character to make me fail twice 😭
Underrated channel
Thank you 🙏🙏
thank u for the tip. now i still dont know who to build
😂 either will be fine! Choose who you like
i have neither and i am in a dire need for a sustain so i will be rolling for aven and i will get fx for my second team
Same here! Lynx and bailu are struggling especially as the content gets tougher 😔
@@GachaMogul really good informative vid btw I subbed
I'm dizzy and don't know what to do, it's really good to pull aventurine? I have fu xuan with her light cone. Not sure if I want to pull him or skip for robin?
Hmm depends on what else you have. FX with her LC is definitely good enough to get you through stuff. Robin is almost undoubtedly going to be insane though
I just got aventurine and a standard banner unit now idk if I should use my guaranteed on Jingliu or use it to get Boothill cause he looks cool😭
Boothill will be after Robin, so you'd have to skip her too
@@GachaMogulwhat I thought boothill was first
I have both. I fear no content.
As it should be! Having both must be so comfy 🙏
Same. FOR THE PRESERVATION!!
Same here but adven is way better
Well said bro. But Adventurine light cone I will skip since I have Geppy's light cone for taunt value = more faster stack gain, more frequent foa, little DMG boost, more shield, less DMG threat to my squishy team, and less skill point consumption
Thanks! Yeah, so far AVs cone is definitely a "don't super need" , especially if you have Moment of Victory
Thanks
Glad it helped !
i wanna ask something, I'm new to this game...i just reached 40 trailblazer level, and when it comes to sustain i have only one limited sustain which is aventurine and so far he is carrying my whole team and very easy to play I'm using dr ratio and clara with him.
But i don't have any other limited dps beside Dr ratio, so i was Saving jades but now I'm bit confused.... should i pull for Fu Xuan in this upcoming banner or keep saving for dpc like acherona and jingliu etc.
I recommend jade or sam
Definitely save for dps! Having aventurine already is going to be great for your teams. Jingliu is amazing, Sam will be fantastic when he releases. So yeah I would say focus dps for now since you have aventurine! Don't fret too much either, at level 40 you have plenty of time to round out those teams 💪
@@GachaMogul i just got jingliu 😄i wasn't so sure if I'm gonna get her or not since 50/50 but got her even tho hit hard pity😅.
should i pull for fuxuan or aventurine if my main team consists achreon, silverwolf, and pela?
Aventurine for that team! He will add a debuff for Acheron, do damage, and be able to keep them alive! 💪
@@GachaMogul ok! thank you
Well, im just gonna get them both
The wisest choice 🙏
I'm having trouble on which sustain is better for acheron. Any suggestion? /off topic
AV is better for Acheron imo , he can provide an debuff for ultimate! 2 if you run trend of the universal market
@@GachaMogul oh, then I might as well pull him, thank you for answering!
Same im pulling for him now and his lc😂😂 i hope we get him early❤
@@ninemilwer hope you got him too! I didn't get his lc tho 🥲
@@notlithycal best of luck to you both!
First time i cleared difficulty 5 in swarm disaster , aventurine shield is really helpful, my team hp didn't drain a bit, stackable shield with high effect res and fua really carried my team
Niceeee
My only 2 teams are hypercarry and DoT, so saving for fu and huohuo seems like the right move for me at this point (I think?)
Huohuo is best sustainer ATM for sure (we will see when AV comes out). AV is best for nihility especially with trend of the universal market. Thats a good plan tho!
@@GachaMogul AV provides crit damage buff on his ult, which for DoT is useless. He would be good in Acheron team but is wasted on DoT since it can’t crit
I don't have any limited sustain, That being said, I'll probably wait for fu xuan since i'd like to finish Mono Quantum with gambling gremlin.
Aventurine looks to be pretty good . But i already have gepard for a shielder and id rarher aave for acherons next debuffing support. Fu xuan can cover my inbibitor team, and for the meanwhile. I'll continue using gepard/gallagher for acheron.
I like Gallagher for the Acheron team, 2 debuffs is great. I need limited sustain myself - only have Lynx and bailu 😭
The ER applies to every team member with a shield(including aventurine) and also one point that wasn't even mentioned is skill points fu xuan is skill point positive but ideally needs to use her skill every 2 turns or more often if she desperately needs energy to save her life with an ult meanwhile aventurine can do entire fights without using a single skill and you only really need to when the shields get low so if you build him fast he's an sp factory
True! I wish the ER on the skill was mentioned a bit better
How good is Gepard Light Cone S2 on Fu Xuan?, I am thinking of skipping her Light Cone
Moment of Victory is GREAT, for FX! The def goes a long way for her survivability, and the taunt is nice for building up the ultimate indirectly! With that one, you should be safe to skip her LC (unless you feel you need it)
I have a doubt.. I have acheron and dhil as my main dps'es.. but I only have one sustain in huo huo plus I don't have ruan mei or sparkle.. i pulled for aventurine but lost the 50-50 to Clara e1.. so I was wondering what should I do?.. originally i was planning to save my pulls for ruan mei and sparkle but I also need a sustain..
Dang losing that 50/50 is rough 😔 I would say ruan Mei and sparkle (or another cracked support) like that is a good option. If you need a temporary sustain for a while, Lynx could get you by until another comes along. (I used bailu and lynx for a long time, one of my main dps was also DHIL). Sparkle is his best friend for sure
@@GachaMogul alr... thanks a lot buddy.. btw i subbed👊
I have E1 Gepard, Luocha and E1 Bailu. So i want only one. I'm 45 pity currently. But haven't decided who to get🤔
Depends on who you have for dps and support! 🙏
Which of them is better for Acheron? My Acheron team is Pela, Silver Wolf and fire MC and I should probably replace Mc But I don't know which to pull. I'd rather go with Fu Xuan but I'm afraid I'm gonna die without a strong healer or shielder. I managed to kill my Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei, Natasha team 20 times while farming the swarm bug (natasha had 7k hp T~T) So maybe I should go for a shielder?
AV is solid for that Acheron team! Provided he has enough Def , the shields are very strong. He can also give a debuff (2 with trend of universal market), counting towards Acheron ultimate!
I have Jingliu, Blade, Seele, SW, Sparkle, Acheron, DHIN, Kafka, Ruan Mei, Ratio and HuoHuo, and thinking about pulling Robin, I have good teams for both, but I don't know who will be better, can you help me? Thanks
Thats a really good lineup of characters. Fu Xuan will be better for Blade, Jingliu. But there is a lot of synergy you could have with a SW, Acheron, Kafka, Aventurine team. Out of all of those, AV doesnt pair the best with jingliu or blade, (especially since blade wants to take some damage). If you feel like you are taking too much damage, I would suggest FX. However, if you feel like units are dying frequently, choose AV!
@@GachaMogul Thank you!
which is better for swarm disasters and gold and gears?
Either will work, but Aventurine will be stronger in the Simulated Universe modes! And we are getting new ones soon 👀
Fu Xuan small queen 👑
👑 and so sassy !!
Since i have blade, I'll stick with fu xuan... but I'll get them both eventually
Good plan
"Although they can be equally good" I think this only applies to things outside of End game worlds (not talking about MOC) .I think we're all aware that Hoyo is focused on providing lots of High end game contents to satisfy their players. One big difference is that Fu Xuan doesn't have shields that can benefit from SU buff at all. If you managed to get hit by a Strong Single/AoE attack its gonna take awhile for Fu Xuan to even heal that much lost. Although she's not powercrept, but we can sense it. (like almost all 1.x characters are)
It will take a bit longer for her to be power crept , especially since we have less comparable units. It is true that SU definitely favors AV though, since she can't use preservation path 😔
Now I’m wondering how a team consisting of Lady Fu, Geppy, Gamble Man, and Barefoot Girl would do
That's a protective team 😳
All that while ting yun somehow found a way to die
@@GachaMogul Must protecc Clara
@@ZAPRST8879 All the more reason to exclude her here
Get those view bro. Make that money 💪
As long as people enjoy the content 🙌
Im wondering if i should pull for aventurine or robin since i already have fu xaun 😔
Depends on what else you have. Luckily we will know more about Robin during the AV banner - so no need to make the decision right away!
Fu Xuan will be on my 1st team
And Aventurine will be on 2nd team
I do have Gepard but he is kinda boring
At least Aventurine can be put on follow up attack team for my Topaz
Some of Gepard relic and His signature lightcone will be transfered to Aventurine
Good ideas. Poor geppy, I like his character design (I actually just got him in sparkle banner, but not going to build him now)
@@GachaMogul i lost to him twice
(NOW E1 GEPARD)
and also to his signature so 3rd time i lost 50/50 to Gepard
At least i dont have to pull for Aventurine signature lightcone now because of gepard sig lightcone
I have both! I'm unstoppable!
That's the true way 🙏
Fu's 30% crit dmg buff at E1 makes me never want to replace her.
That's a lot of crit damage 😮 I'd be surprised if we get someone better tbh
@@GachaMogul i think aventurine gives 25% crit dmg if he has broken keel on 15 from the ult and 10 from keel and if another unit has keel on that is 35% thanks to his skill giving team wide effect res
base on the early release i think aventurine gets free crit rate with his def max 4000 on his talents so I don't think it's necessary to go for img dmg orb
Yeah I may tweak it as necessary, I just rolled it so I thought "ah why not" 😂 I'll probably even run CD chest piece eventually
Aventurine with Fu Xuan light cone any good?
It's an ok choice, but there are much better options! Especially because he wants defense instead of hp for the most part
i have jingliu as my main dps should i spin for aventurine or fu xuan
Either will work ok, but FX will cover the hp a bit better since JL drains everyone's hp
Aventurine is probably BIS support for Acheron, especially e2-
For now I agree, I'm hoping we get some "nihility esque" supports later
I really want aventurine but I dumped everything onto acheron and now im poor + im not guaranteed to win the 50/50
Acheron is definitely worth ! I feel the pain, I need to skip someone soon 😭
I dont I have a sustain, my Damage dealers are Acheron S1 and Dhil, also got sparkle, Planing to get kafka, ruan mei and Swan, I dont Know what sustain would be better, I was Thinking Huohuo
That's a great plan so far. Ruan Mei and sparkle are two of the best in the game and that's a lot of coverage for teams already. Huohuo is probably the best sustainer ATM, she shares some of the "harmony" aspects while still doing crazy healing!
I have Fu Xuan and Gerpard so I am going for JL.
Love JL ♥️ best of luck!
Waiting for fu xuan❤
Little sassy queen ! 👑
Ill wait for fu xuan
Respectable 🙏
Reason?
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Same, too Im saving for Fu Xuan
Well I think your relics on aventurine purely depend on your light cone. The more def it gives the less you need on your relics. But like just def and spd boots is good enough. I think he is easier to build them du xuan that does dmg because all his def scales a lot in his damage. Also idk if fu is easier to play or more universal. In let’s say a kafka team the buffs they give don’t matter (as crit) and I think aventurine just performs better. Idk.
Depends yeah. Like AV can give 1-2 debuffs in a nihility team, for moreso Acheron. Only Acheron cares about the crit vs Black swan and kafka. Both are good in certain situations
both of em on same team :o
TRUE! You would never lose lol
Should i pull for him ,if i have Huo Huo and gepard ?
Depends on who you have for dps and such! Since you have those 2 , you definitely don't need him as badly and can probably get by!
Imo, it depends if Aventurine is auto-friendly in the non-forward atk teams. His AI in the story trial was trashy. He used his normal atk instead of his skill shield on auto sometimes.. even when my party only had 10% shield left lol.. He can't even heal back the party after the HP loss from not shielding. I never had problem with FuXuan.
Auto battling is an interesting idea, I think the AI in general is kinda mid😭
The one who will not die to an aoe attack because she takes everyone's damage and her own.
Aventurine stonks ⬆️
They still take damage she just mitigates it
You need to have a scuffed Fuxuan to constantly die to aoe attacks, it's only high level SU wheere that can happen
@@aba7968 It's not that it constantly happens, it's the fact that it can happen in the first place.
Sound like you have a very poor built Fu.
me who have gepard from 50/50 loss and aventurine..... i also want fu xuan cause SHE SLAYSSS. prob get her rerun after 2.2 cause gotta be realistic a bit. and topaz is coming out so ratio needs GOOD FOOD.
TRUE. I have topaz so I might go for her LC!
The Best character is the friendship we made along the way.
Very true ♥️
I play fu xuan with luocha in SU
All my team gets constent heal and buffs and she can tank AOE attacks because she is always full hp (if don’t then skill issue) Also, her skill last 3 turns when avanturine always has to use 1 skillpoint
True. Speed is more required for sp neutral on him slightly. His shields are very tanky though. Both are solid though! (I use luocha on my F2P!)
@@GachaMogul i’m f2p and fu xuan’s lc is op it heals all the team! Both are strong but i still prefer fu xuan with my 12% crit rate :)
I must stay strong for Firefly
Me as well for my big Mech stellaron hunter man 🙏
Aventurine slams. Edit: forgot to mention I meant both ways
Slams a$$.
@@lazaruslong697 mine
@@lazaruslong697yours 🧐
😳😳
Slamventurine
I got aventurine should i get fu xuan or boothill
Depends on what you need! What other units do you have or want? Dps, support, or sustain
Now imagine having both in the same team no one would ever die 😂
True 😂😂
Both 😎
True!!
All I see and care about is the Fu Xuan + Aventurine combo in those pesky lvl5+ gold&machine/swarm simulated universe x)
True! Destroy those bugs 😤😤
I'm skipping mainly because Gepard is absolutely fine in my account and I'm in a more need of supports than sustains. If I really need a new preservation, it'll be Fu Xuan since she's a better fit for DPS like Seele.
Also, I'm pretty sure MiHoYo will eventually create a boss whose mechanics deals piercing dmg/ignores shield making Geppie and Aventurine less viable/useless for future bosses like this. So I'll wait for the next preservation unit whose better at defending that scenario
Totally fair! That could definitely be something mihoyo could pull. Supports really do kinda run the game right now tbf, (ruan Mei is insane, probably #1)
@@GachaMogul I'm also hoping HSR will add relics that gives healers a chance to stay relevant. Something like "Gains buffs based on X% of healing" or "Gains a shield based on X% of healing". (Luocha would be insane for this since no character currently outheals him)
Adding something like this would really help characters whose mechanics are predominantly healing be more useful and prevents powercreep. To balance it out, the buffs just won't be as strong as someone like HuoHuo
As for supports, I'm also think we may get bosses/mobs that have a built-in buff removal mechanic just to balance out the reliance on supports (this is probably where shield/preservation units become more useful)
He's a side grade. Both are superior to the other in certain comps but one isn't more comfortable than the other. Your team ain't dying with either on the team.
Yep! They're both crazy in their own way
My team is now going to be mono imaginary
I like this idea as a DHIL stan
I wanna pull for robin but I hard people say that robin is gonna be more useful with a aventurine :/ now I’m in a spot where idk who i should pull for … fyi i have been using geppi since day 1 😂😂so god help me pls
I think Robin will be Insane with a wide set of units, but definitely seems to buff up FuA teams stronger
I lost 50/50 with Adventurine so... I'll have to choose between Fu Xuan or Firefly
That's a tough choice, I am SAVING up for Firefly big time
Aventurine doing 600k dmg/ 3 turns is INSANE
So much hot gambler damage 😳
There’s also Fu Xuan being a ridiculous sub-dps with erudition blessings in SU lol
👀 That would be fun to see too
Major problems with both of them is the lack of cleanse. With a lot of debuffs and DOT effects , it can get harder to protect your units in both cases , although most fights don’t last that long right now. Another problem I see is the lack of healing in aventurine kit which makes sense but if someone runs out of shield or gets hit more , this can create issues. Fu xuan also can have difficulty sustaining and healing the team in a long difficult fight. Although she makes it through MoC but I see some of the things she really weak with , lot is debuffs and that japa witch that use wind shear and reduces max hp absolutely ruins Fu Xuan. Units like that are a major problem for FU , Aventurine is also a pain when he does a lot of cc and reduces energy. That energy really hurts fu. Aventurine is a little better in this MoC because of that but he is kind of bad with a lot of debuffs too. That witch will be a pain with both. Lack of cleanse is the main problem of preservation units. This is also one of the reasons why March is still such a good unit. She can shield , heal and cleanse although only one unit .
They definitely still have things that they lack. The eff res does it's job though for all content we have so far
I have both of them now. In my opinion fu xuan is better cuz she a little bit easier to build, she give crit rate, CC res and for me her matrix is activ or not is more simple like i have enough shield on me from aventurine. BUT, i hate the fact that fu xuan skill dosen't have a cap. So in some scenarios if her skill is active and she does not have stack for the HP reset she will continue to take their damage for herself and dies from it even if the other teammates had enough HP to survive. and if thats happens the others will die one by one. Oh, yeah and if she had more than 50% of her HP and the enemy make a big AoE attack she will just take all the damage and dies even if she had stacks on her.
Aventurine's shield is really tanky. But he just give me a shield and if thats runs out my characters not get any back up like from fu xuan. But thats in just really hard scenarios like in the Swarm disaster V, Gold and Gears and in that fucking Bug weekly boss what i forgot to farm him cuz i really hate that one. Some times it just targeted my sparkle and almost killed her cuz her shield ran off (when i had in that team clara too, but the enemies always target my harmony characters. not they have the highest aggro, isn't it?) Aventurine is an easy build character and i always get Def relics so finally someone can use them.
I think both of them is really awesome, just i think fu xuan is a little bit better. But if u need to choose any of them it not will be a bad choice.
Exactly. Both are awesome choices, and are great units 🙏
I have both
Nice!! That's the way it should be 🙏
Both are overall better than abundance units. However, I’d say probably Aventrine. Both are SS+. However, Aventurine brings DMG. Which leads to enemies dying faster.
Huohuo would be the contender here, as she does a lot of extra "harmony" things. But yeah AV and FX are definitely both SS! I can't wait to play with him... And his damage 🙂
Fu Xuan's crit rate buff to the dps is probably more impactful to overall team damage than Aventurine's damage.
@@AWater22 that's false, unless your builds are really mid
Why preservation is better than abundance? (Just asking since I thought both paths are equal)
@@notlithycal better buff mechanics, also not getting oneshotted and all