Jeremy Corbyn: Diane Abbott and Ben Bradshaw debate Labour leadership
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Tony Blair called it. He called it and the party didn't listen. Well done
@Silvercloud141 141 🤣
Ahahah yup
Except he didn't listen to the labour heartland voters, including Sedgefield his own constituency.
Tony Blair is only saying what he says because of what Jeremy Corbin has said about regarding a trial over Iraq.
IbadassI LOL~ Yeah...it certainly loads the dice for Tony Blair!
+IbadassI Yeah, that and maybe Corbyn would bring about a fair fucking trial.
He’s probably closer to a lot of top tories in real life so he’s happy to plug them. He’d never go on trial if Corbyn came to power.
Little Traveller Bliar would be running for the hills, or the Caymen Islands if Jezza became PM. Make it so. Time we had a government that works for the people.
1) If Blair wanted to thwart Corbyn's campaign he should've professed unequivocal support for it.
2) The huge jump in registered voters is only a possible admin problem, not a political one, and therefore should be discussed as such - both within Labour & media.
Like the tories they should have said new members had to had to wait a few months before they could vote on the leadership , he would never have got in !
@@1ramises "if only" "they should've"
The point is... he did.
And having done so he was so supremely unelectable as Prime Minister... his election had to be sabotaged.
So many people have registered to vote because Jeremy Corbyn has given a real hope to millions of us here and is giving a voice to the voiceless!
You’re as bonkers as Diane Abbot ! Obviously a student or too young to know any better !!
speak up, we still can't hear you!!
@@capnordest aaaaand they're gone. And now UK don't have any opposition anymore.
Blair should be in the Hague, his time is over and he should stop bloody interfering
Go J.C. , Go J.C....
This article sums Labour up beautifully...how cool and down with the street are we - memberships for £3! We're so inclusive, we'll ensure everyone has a chance to vote! ....We're of the people, truly democratic!
Hmm hang on a minute, with so many free to join that might mean that people won't vote how we want them too...stop, stop, change the rules, bring in the judges, it ain't fair waiiiiiiiiiiiil.
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/labour-faces-annihilation-under-jeremy-corbyn-tony-blair-warns-in-dramatic-late-intervention/ar-BBlGLRB?ocid=mailsignoutmd
I love it!
So typically they fail to see that J.C. is good for the country; he represents the mindset of many people, people who hitherto have been hidden in the shroud of Labour, people who have clung to the shirt tails of politicians with a suitable public persona, lurked in the shadows only to appear with prejudices and agendas once power has been seized....well now they're out in the open where we can see them..which has to e good for democracy, another reason why so many of Labour's supporters are panicking.
mmmbeachlover Yep~ What you said! You nailed it in one! Although you could say exactly the same about the Tory party and the various 'hangers on' they also have. That's the problem with politics... ;P
mmmbeachlover LOL! Absolutely hilarious watching the Labour grandees in their true colours!
Blair was right (and I voted for Corbyn)
He was and I didn't !
He was quite right, I too voted for Corbyn and I do regret that decision
We can look back now and say Tony was right.
Tony was wrong and we know it fook the Tories and its bill bullshit
Why does the Electoral Reform Society not concentrate on giving the electorate a voting system that allows their votes to count (my vote has never counted because I have always lived in 'safe seat' constituencies where the incumbent will win no matter whether I support or oppose him) instead of opposing the democratic method that has been instituted for the selection of a Labour Party Leader? I hope that the next leader will extend the system to voting at the Conference instead of having to rely on delegates so that it becomes worthwhile to obtain Labour Party Membership as well as affiliation.
Ooooh, hasn't Ben got luvly hair. Lets vote for him.... ;)
011258stooie Yes but his eyes aren't as dreamy as Andy Burnhams, Vote for dreamy eyes...
Jake Jester Oooh, I'll have to go and take a look at him.... do you think he likes taking orders.. ;)
011258stooie Oooh... I don't know but when I look in those dreamy eyes I think of Scott Tracy flying that huge Thunderbirds One to ecstasy and beyond... Vote for ecstasy...
011258stooie too far?
Jake Jester Never ! ;)
Looks like Tony was right eh? 😂😂
Its time for both sides to put aside the rhetoric and get round the negotiating table.
+Sangus Brule It seems to me that it is the elite that do not wish to sit around a table with all the rhetoric from the right such as morons and heart transplants.
LOL Chilcot Report haunting Tony Blair
Compare the speed of delivery of her speech with recent videos !!! What’s going on there?
LABBOTTomy perhaps?
Has Diane's boy got good grades at the independent school he attended?
Theres always a skeleton in the cupboard aint there
If he didn't look so much like Bowie i'd pop him!
I swear politicians are so lifeless and indirect, it's fucking frustrating
That went well then didn't it.
I hate to say it but Tony Blair was right about the opening statement about Jeremy Corbyn.
No he wasn't, the monumental earthquake of Brexit was not in his knowledge at the time.
I will have my 'emotional spasm' and VOTE JEREMY CORBYN.
How she must miss Costello, much funnier then.
why is ben bradshaw dressed as jeremy clarkson?
Diane you only want Jeremy in because he will promote you to a minister for god knows. What And because he’s been in your Alan whickers 🤢 yuck
Blair with all his unwelcome meddling has one overriding ambition which is to be president of a federal Europe.
The Labour party election campaign team do have access to union membership records. I’m getting personalised emails from them several times a day at work.
She seems to have no real opinions at all its just all " we need to keep it balanced and fair and equal and balanced and fair bla bla bla"
You do have to wonder WHY anyone would report on what TB thinks or says.....
Its not like his words carry any weight..
if you don't want austerity then don't overspend in the first place.
the young are fighting back Cameron.
Different times Ben .
Dianne Abbot will make a fantastic Prime Minister.She is the most experienced politician in Westminster.She is well qualified with diplomas in economics Philosophy History and algebra.She has promised to create an immigration fund so they can settle in the country.She also intends building more houses for them especially four bed-roomed houses to accommodate their large familiesThere will be special language lessons for all; immigrants.She also intends to introduce the minimum wage for all working immigrants.She has promised to make all employers pay more tax to fund her policies.This is the person for the job of making Britain great again. She is a super-star and it is a privilege to watch and listen to her passionate speeches..
Agreed she brings the wisdom of the gods to her audience.
Union members voting for the Labour leader? Shocking. We must put a stop to that... [sarcasm]
What about Jeremy Corbyn and the USA ... HE WOULD NOT SURVIVE AS A LABOUR PRIME MINISTER
In the most sinister bit of the interview with Russia Today, Assange seems to imply Corbyn’s historically critically view about the close relationship between the USA and the UK could cost him dearly.
He said: “I would be quite concerned about the risks that he could be intentionally politically destabilised by the United States or something worse.”
I can't imagine Diane Abbott as prime minister of Britain.
Channel 4 News Firstly - I thought CGM did a pretty good job hosting. Raised decent points for all involved to address.
Secondly - Politicians and news often moan that:
1. People don't take interest in politics.
2. Labor has failed and needs to find a way to get the numbers in.
3. Labor needs new ideas/approach/focus because the previous ones clearly didn't work.
So...
1.So there is a guy who is against corporate influence etc etc (a Progressive).
2. Now there is a surge, but its for a part of the party that isn't the same as the old.
They feel getting that clearly all this can't be quite right.
And somehow Labor wonder why they have an internal crisis.
They want to be known as on the 'left' whilst actually being 'Tory Lite' and want to sideline pretty much anything remotely 'Progressive', probably over exaggerating and labeling 'Progressive' rhetoric as 'Socialists'. The funny thing is, the Republicans in the US do this, the Cons here do this, even UKIP do this.
Labor is trying really hard to stay 'Tory Lite', the problem is they want the public to want it too.
Its like watching children squabble, just a lot more tragic and funny considering its with regards to how we manage our country.
Its not really unfair to call them childish if they are being childish. It wouldn't matter if they were Party members, policemen, or celebrities, the behavior certainly indicates they are being childish.
Archivian You are delusional if you don't think UKIP and Conservative voters are joining in the masses and voting Jeremy Corbyn so Labour can be destroyed ...... you are detached
finalfrontier001
I am detached from reality? You just argued that people from multiple political ideologies have decided to have the same goal, join a different political group only to sabotage it.
All to sabotage a party that is already the victim of its own backwards Tory Lite recent history and that largely are arguing to be the same as they were.
Frankly people who assume a surge is due to a bunch of people from other parties trying to create a false surge, are likely making wild assumption. After all it could just be that a bunch of people like what he says. (especially when UKIP/Cons/Tory Lite, don't tend to want to tackle money in politics)
Labor had done the damage to themselves over the years essentially trying very hard to be Tory Lite.
Well they succeeded in being Tory Lite, and it turns out, that was a stupid idea for them to do.
Archivian
I am one of the 12,349 UKIP voters who joined the party just to let you know. I don't even know who is doing the Conservative rigging part. I also know Green Party that are nothing but Marxist are also joining in the thousands.
80.000 have joined recent weeks and more will join its a farce. no one is scared of Jeremy Corbyn becasue they are laughing at him.
finalfrontier001 They are scared of him which is why they are making a big stink on all sides.
The exact same thing is happening now in the US with Sanders (left) and Trump (right).
The media attention that is on him is driving much of his popularity, regardless of what the media says good or bad, or even their policies, just the fact he is always in the news is enough.
The same was done with Farage. Heck even the 'No' vote with scotland was related to more media pushing for no more than for yes.
Notice how all those anti progressive ideology never actually refer to 'Progressive' only mislabel to socialist or marxist etc (despite the very definitions of the words). Like when everyone labelled most people who joined UKIP as racist rather than largely misinformed. OR both, or out of protest etc
The only reason why anyone is even a bit scared of him is because he is against money in politics, corporate influence etc. The major parties/politicians that specifically go after that, are labelled socialists instead of 'Progressive' despite the facts. When ever he brings up corp influence, Even CH4 news cuts him off (conveniently).
Personally I'm up for getting money/corp influence out of politics. Then everyones ideologies have a fair go. That isn't how things currently stand.
Overall Labor are doing more damage to themselves than anyone has and will do. If Corbyn is enough to undermine Labor in all the ways you seem to think, then Labor was already lost. (mostly lost in trying to be Tory Lite)
o great if only this leadership vote happened two years ago we wouldn't have DC and all his toffs in power now !
Hes got bed hair
Bradshaw is basically just a tory,like all the bliarites
The Labour leadership race has made it apparent that the Labour camp is split and fractured into Left & Center Right politics. The party isn't united & the subsequent in-fighting is making the party as a whole seem weak and directionless, as well as leaderless. By default it is strengthening the Conservative foothold and if it continues it will only serve to secure another Conservative majority come next election.
In my opinion Labour are dead whoever they elect as leader, Ed Miliband was the best they had and he didn't even come close.
Labour isn't dead yet, but it will if Corbyn doesn't win. Only he can reinvigorate its purpose by making it mainstream to oppose austerity & Thatcherite policies that have dominated politics of both the Left and right for over 30 years.
In the 1990's there were three parties in parliament that agreed with Thatcherism, if Corbyn wins there will only be two. That's the cause of the split. But I have to point out, it is never the Left that question the party result or go off and form a new party called the SDP, it is always the right that are throwing their toys out of the pram. Perhaps they will do it again by forming "Progress" this time?
If Corbyn hadn't stood, Unite was going to leave & both Scottish & northern voters were going to abandon labour. Despite Blair's hysteria, Corbyn may keep the party and Union of Scotland & England together longer than anyone else could have.
Labour isn't dead yet, but it will if Corbyn doesn't win. Only he can reinvigorate its purpose by making it mainstream to oppose austerity & Thatcherite policies that have dominated politics of both the Left and right for over 30 years.
In the 1990's there were three parties in parliament that agreed with Thatcherism, if Corbyn wins there will only be two. That's the cause of the split. But I have to point out, it is never the Left that question the party result or go off and form a new party called the SDP, it is always the right that are throwing their toys out of the pram. Perhaps they will do it again by forming "Progress" this time?
If Corbyn hadn't stood, Unite was going to leave & both Scottish & northern voters were going to abandon labour. Despite Blair's hysteria, Corbyn may keep the party and Union of Scotland & England together longer than anyone else could have.
Labour isn't dead yet, but it will if Corbyn doesn't win. Only he can reinvigorate its purpose by making it mainstream to oppose austerity & Thatcherite policies that have dominated politics of both the Left and right for over 30 years.
In the 1990's there were three parties in parliament that agreed with Thatcherism, if Corbyn wins there will only be two. That's the cause of the split. But I have to point out, it is never the Left that question the party result or go off and form a new party called the SDP, it is always the right that are throwing their toys out of the pram. Perhaps they will do it again by forming "Progress" this time?
If Corbyn hadn't stood, Unite was going to leave & both Scottish & northern voters were going to abandon labour. Despite Blair's hysteria, Corbyn may keep the party and Union of Scotland & England together longer than anyone else could have.
Labour, is anally retentive, it is official. 👏😂😭Come on Boris, let's sort these left wing trouble rousers out 👍
Abbot is a stain on society
Jeremy Corbyn should never become prime minister.
don't worry he won't, the electorate had him sussed long ago!
Chairman Mao is too right wing for Labour these days.
Scuba Sausage A picture of a troll rather than a shark would be more apt and maybe changing the first part of your moniker from scuba to Silly. ;-)
Modface lol, true though! Labour are going through "who can be more left wing" competition that will see them fall off the radar for normal people.
Diane abbot on ch 4 news how lefty can you get haha
vote for bernie grant
Blair was right
Bradshaw may seem very nice but he is a shady character and a supporter of same old orthodoxies which keep this country stagnant and divided
Panicking over a clear leader
Watching this in 2020. Blair was right, apparently. Have Labour learned their lesson? No.
I can't imagine Diane Abbott as prime minister of Britain.
Tony Blair is only saying what he says because of what Jeremy Corbin has said about regarding a trial over Iraq.
Tony was right