There have been larger projects exploring this, with cigarette buts in cities. If I remember correctly they were scrapped due to questionable ethics. Should we alter the behaviors of animals like this? I guess that's what they asked themselves.
@@aesbj9228 Well we already train / captivate animals to do other tasks for us which are probably more questionable, it's a shame this one didn't get the green light
Bruh these birds gonna start using bottle caps as currency and there gonna make a big bird community where you do work you get bottle caps you bring bottle caps to the machine and get food
Master Forsberg, ur videos hav given a great start to my day fank u soo much for sharing wiv us all & for being a TRU GUARDIAN OF THE ANIMAL KINGDOM, from a new subscriber-Fan 💕 🙏🏽 🕊️ 🇬🇧
This is SO CLEVER! Really mind-blowing! Thank you for sharing with us all this great idea. I really liked your calm and detailed way of explaining things. You did a really great job!
That's really incredible. It's amazing how intelligent birds are, people don't give them enough credit. Thank you for taking care of our feathered friends.
everything about this video has "mad scientist" vibes about it. If you put on a white labcoat and slightly different round glasses you coupld play a perfect bond villain.
Can we but you wonderful box please ? In France 😍 Congratulations for this incredible work and thank you very much for birds (people will see that there are very intelligent) and the planet 💚💚💚
This is so great Herr Forsberg! It links me to the research regarding animal intelligence over the past years. Monkeys stealing valuable items from tourists and exchanging them at a 'boss' monkey for other needed items. A sort of basic economy. Pigs able to play basic computer games, crows displaying metacognition.... and the very intelligent octopus who dreams as well. Our understanding of animals is changing and the age old demeaning idea of, 'they're just animals', meaning they don't perceive or think or experience the world in complex manners is coming to an end. However, the smarter humans have seen this for a very long time already. Anyway, a bit off topic. Thank you again for this interesting video!
This looks like pure upside. The environment is cleaned of litter, birds become trained to perform beneficial tasks and they are rewarded for their efforts. Is this the future? Congrats Hans for this awesome idea and execution! Glad CZcams recommended this to me...
This is such a brilliant project!! I had to watch you earlier videos as I was really curious about how you managed to train wild birds to perform this task . Now I wonder if magpies can learn by observing each others or you will have to retrain every new generation of birds .
Hi there. This is indeed an interesting question, and in fact, i have som interesting observations. The magpies featured in the older videos where born in the big cherry-tree close to the birdbox, visible in some of the videos. At that time, as they where 'eggs' and later on chicks, my experiments was with their 'adult magpie parents'. For example , the red button experiment iluustrated in some videos is with the adult birds. At the time when i started with bottle-caps, the adult magpies where gone...i dont know where...instead four 'teenage-brave-unafraid' magpie chicks started to investigate the bottle-cap experiment. Hower, they learned from their parents that the BirdBox was a valuable site for food. After a while there where only three birds...don't know what predator took the fourth. After a few weeks of bottle-cap training ( I will publish a video about the raining soon), on of the three magpies finally learned the trick. Surprisingly itt took weeks until the siblings picked up the trick. (there is a of uncertainty here, i'm no expert in identifying magpie individuals etc) Well, a few weeks ago, a journalist from Swedish National Radio was book in for a visit in my garden, the weekend before here arrival the was a big fight in the cherry-tree...many magpies fighting, very noisy. I did not think much about that, but the next day, the BirdBox was 'dead', no interaction from birds at all. The current theory is that another gang of magpies had conquered the territory, they had seen the food station... What to do ? Starve the new gang out, hoping the original birds could get the territory back, or retrain the new gang? just a few days later i saw one of the 'new' magpies with a bottlecap in the pick, inserting this bottl-cap deep down in the hole...but missing the key thing, letting go of the bottle cap. a few day later, this magpie had found out the final trick, and the BirdBox is up and running again. From my point of view, it's obvious that the new gang had seen the original magpies dealing with bottle-caps. Picking up bottle-caps on the lawn, taking them to the BirdBox gym and inserting them into a small hole is to far-fetched, the birds is not that smart. So to finally answer your question, Yes, looks like the skill can be spread from bird to bird... Thank you for your question, i will include this text in my descriptions on Hackaday , Hackster etc. BTW, eventually , i will host a 'hack-chat' on Hackaday wednesday 21:st of october, 'noon pacific time' /Hans
@@LabbHasse Thanks for the detailed answer . This is indeed really interesting! I am looking forward to any update on this project . I will try to remember the date for you hack-chat . Thanks
@@LabbHasse As experiments with crows will attest, and in observations, they 'teach' each other how to use tools. In this case, the tool is the cap. Magpies and crows and ravens will use tools to extract insects from a log, add rocks to a tube to raise the water up to get the 'food' and so on. They are birds that 'play' and in that interaction of activity, they learn from each other how to do things, like swing on a branch for fun, or go snow sliding on a car or roof top, even finding a lid to use as a slider! Iyou can see that video from Russia) Very inventive they are! So it is not unusual for them to 'see' how something works once figured out. It does help too, in my opinion to have a clear container for the food to attract them faster! Seeing food makes them want to try and get at it:) But that is just my thoughts on the learning process! I love the project, and would love to see this in parks and areas where people throw out stuff like lids etc. I would be interested to see if they would branch out into collecting other objects of garbage that would fit into the slot!LOL Oh, I noted the funnel..is that needed? I am wondering if that would collect water when raining out etc. :)
Crows are truly very smart. They learn by observation and communication. In Japan there are videos of crows inserting coins into vending machines. I think the next step up from bottle caps would be having them magpies pay for their own food with shillings they found on the street haha.
Amazing project! Imagine if we could replicate this in every city! 😃 hope you can share a how to build it guide. I algo have a 3d printer at home 😉 and with common parts from IKEA whenever possible we could build it anywhere !
Clever to just explain individual components so people come up with their own ways to do it Not just mindlessly follow exact design step by step I can appreciate that
How did you get the magpies to initially learn that if they put bottle caps in the hole they get food? Also do you just toss bottle caps in the garden for them to find?
Your accent automatically informs me you’re capable of building things
And the name
On behalf of Sweden, we are flattered!
@@fiskfisk33 most of us Americans only know how to build peanut butter and jelly xD
racist.
@@axids6371 is it racist when it is something positive
Imagine if this was on a larger scale in towns and cities. Would change the world
I don’t think bottle caps are that big of a problem right now
@@AZdirtdog ok but what if they were trained to get other things too
There have been larger projects exploring this, with cigarette buts in cities. If I remember correctly they were scrapped due to questionable ethics. Should we alter the behaviors of animals like this? I guess that's what they asked themselves.
@@theabirde That's exactly what I meant, thanks
@@aesbj9228 Well we already train / captivate animals to do other tasks for us which are probably more questionable, it's a shame this one didn't get the green light
You're walking a very fine line between genius and madness.
That is exactly when progress occurs, my good sir!
Thats the man who need to have his own category in heaven called Genius
The land mine monkey guy needs company
Right!? 💖💖💖
How do you protect the system from accepting rocks instead of caps? Do you have some sort of electromagnetic detector?
That would e a great idea 💡
He has a video explaining how he trained the birds. He trained them with bottlecaps, so they use bottlecaps.
He answered elsewhere its a metal detector
This would fly on Kickstarter. You have a growing following. At the same time, you bring environmental awareness at a personal level. Thank you!!!
I love the way Germans go about things, so efficient. And the way he explains how it works is straight to the point. Great work 👍
He’s Swedish
Your're in my top 3 favorite dudes I've never met, Hans.
Deep respect from the Dallas / Fort Worth Metroplex.
i dont know how people can hate or dislike this in away it is cool and shows how any animal can be trained and how smart they truly are
Magpies are not any animal. They are well known for being smart
How did you train the bird(s)?
he is programming them in python
There is video displaying steps of achieving in these channel.
@@_manasikara i think it was C+
@@_manasikara Correction: that would be Magpython.
This is that video: czcams.com/video/zvmhl-E4QQ0/video.html
The way you explained everything gives me a clue that you've taught a class before or something. Down to the pointing of the tool!
Bruh these birds gonna start using bottle caps as currency and there gonna make a big bird community where you do work you get bottle caps you bring bottle caps to the machine and get food
Master Forsberg, ur videos hav given a great start to my day fank u soo much for sharing wiv us all & for being a TRU GUARDIAN OF THE ANIMAL KINGDOM, from a new subscriber-Fan 💕 🙏🏽 🕊️ 🇬🇧
This is SO CLEVER! Really mind-blowing! Thank you for sharing with us all this great idea. I really liked your calm and detailed way of explaining things. You did a really great job!
People did similar with Crows in the US, but trained them to find coins instead of litter.
Amazing Hans, thank you for showing us your brilliant idea!
That's really incredible. It's amazing how intelligent birds are, people don't give them enough credit. Thank you for taking care of our feathered friends.
This is a great and helpful project for mankind to work together with birds for the environmental project. ❤️
This needs to be on the market...with a manual how to teach the birds.
Brilliant. I think the story how he trained the birds is more interesting than the tech story.
Hans, das ist einfach genial! Eine echte Erfindung!
This is an absolutely brilliant idea! Well done!
Thanks Hans, Great thing you've done.
Wow ! It's a fascinating experience.
You are the best, sir! I can't even find proper words to describe my love and excitement for this idea 💖💖💖💖💖💖
...where was this hack when i needed it for Fallout 4?!
I love, love, love this! Using tech and geekery to solve a littering problem and even get some enjoyment from it!
This is awesome, Hans! :)
I absolutely love this idea, great job :D
Wow !!! Sir, you are amazing!!!
Just wow !!!
This is truly the coolest!
*Humans* : An ReVoLutIoniSing InVenTiON
Birds 🐦 : _Its free real estate_
Это отличная идея. Вороны умные птицы, сразу поняли в чем суть. Удачи вам в ваших начинаниях, хороший человек. 👍
Your a genius, the birds are also... this is awesome!
Love the work.
this is BRILLIANT! *respect*
"This little box is nothing else than a dedicated Rasberry Pi..." in other words - an entire computer system.
This is amazing!
Awesome idea! Congrat!
VRaiment Exceptionnel! Merci!
What a brilliant idea
everything about this video has "mad scientist" vibes about it.
If you put on a white labcoat and slightly different round glasses you coupld play a perfect bond villain.
Thats amazing man, Good luck for future endeavours 👍
Awesome! You are genius,man!👍
Can we but you wonderful box please ? In France 😍 Congratulations for this incredible work and thank you very much for birds (people will see that there are very intelligent) and the planet 💚💚💚
This is so great Herr Forsberg! It links me to the research regarding animal intelligence over the past years. Monkeys stealing valuable items from tourists and exchanging them at a 'boss' monkey for other needed items. A sort of basic economy. Pigs able to play basic computer games, crows displaying metacognition.... and the very intelligent octopus who dreams as well. Our understanding of animals is changing and the age old demeaning idea of, 'they're just animals', meaning they don't perceive or think or experience the world in complex manners is coming to an end. However, the smarter humans have seen this for a very long time already. Anyway, a bit off topic. Thank you again for this interesting video!
I hope you're saving all those caps for the post-apocalypse world
excellent idea!! ... well done!!
I loved it!
This looks like pure upside. The environment is cleaned of litter, birds become trained to perform beneficial tasks and they are rewarded for their efforts. Is this the future? Congrats Hans for this awesome idea and execution! Glad CZcams recommended this to me...
Yea, make animals clean up the mess that dumb people make. Fantastic.
This is such a brilliant project!! I had to watch you earlier videos as I was really curious about how you managed to train wild birds to perform this task . Now I wonder if magpies can learn by observing each others or you will have to retrain every new generation of birds .
Hi there.
This is indeed an interesting question, and in fact, i have som interesting observations. The magpies featured in the older videos where born in the big cherry-tree close to the birdbox, visible in some of the videos. At that time, as they where 'eggs' and later on chicks, my experiments was with their 'adult magpie parents'. For example , the red button experiment iluustrated in some videos is with the adult birds. At the time when i started with bottle-caps, the adult magpies where gone...i dont know where...instead four 'teenage-brave-unafraid' magpie chicks started to investigate the bottle-cap experiment. Hower, they learned from their parents that the BirdBox was a valuable site for food.
After a while there where only three birds...don't know what predator took the fourth. After a few weeks of bottle-cap training ( I will publish a video about the raining soon), on of the three magpies finally learned the trick. Surprisingly itt took weeks until the siblings picked up the trick. (there is a of uncertainty here, i'm no expert in identifying magpie individuals etc)
Well, a few weeks ago, a journalist from Swedish National Radio was book in for a visit in my garden, the weekend before here arrival the was a big fight in the cherry-tree...many magpies fighting, very noisy. I did not think much about that, but the next day, the BirdBox was 'dead', no interaction from birds at all.
The current theory is that another gang of magpies had conquered the territory, they had seen the food station...
What to do ? Starve the new gang out, hoping the original birds could get the territory back, or retrain the new gang?
just a few days later i saw one of the 'new' magpies with a bottlecap in the pick, inserting this bottl-cap deep down in the hole...but missing the key thing, letting go of the bottle cap. a few day later, this magpie had found out the final trick, and the BirdBox is up and running again. From my point of view, it's obvious that the new gang had seen the original magpies dealing with bottle-caps. Picking up bottle-caps on the lawn, taking them to the BirdBox gym and inserting them into a small hole is to far-fetched, the birds is not that smart. So to finally answer your question, Yes, looks like the skill can be spread from bird to bird...
Thank you for your question, i will include this text in my descriptions on Hackaday , Hackster etc.
BTW, eventually , i will host a 'hack-chat' on Hackaday wednesday 21:st of october, 'noon pacific time'
/Hans
@@LabbHasse Thanks for the detailed answer . This is indeed really interesting! I am looking forward to any update on this project .
I will try to remember the date for you hack-chat .
Thanks
@@LabbHasse Thanks for sharing, Hans. This is a wonderful project -- will be sure to tune in to the hack-chat
@@LabbHasse As experiments with crows will attest, and in observations, they 'teach' each other how to use tools. In this case, the tool is the cap. Magpies and crows and ravens will use tools to extract insects from a log, add rocks to a tube to raise the water up to get the 'food' and so on. They are birds that 'play' and in that interaction of activity, they learn from each other how to do things, like swing on a branch for fun, or go snow sliding on a car or roof top, even finding a lid to use as a slider! Iyou can see that video from Russia) Very inventive they are! So it is not unusual for them to 'see' how something works once figured out. It does help too, in my opinion to have a clear container for the food to attract them faster! Seeing food makes them want to try and get at it:) But that is just my thoughts on the learning process! I love the project, and would love to see this in parks and areas where people throw out stuff like lids etc. I would be interested to see if they would branch out into collecting other objects of garbage that would fit into the slot!LOL Oh, I noted the funnel..is that needed? I am wondering if that would collect water when raining out etc. :)
Crows are truly very smart. They learn by observation and communication. In Japan there are videos of crows inserting coins into vending machines.
I think the next step up from bottle caps would be having them magpies pay for their own food with shillings they found on the street haha.
Fantastic!!
As soon as I saw the glasses I knew he was some sort of engineer 👍
True definition of reward
A great project!
Awesome !
Amazing project! Imagine if we could replicate this in every city! 😃 hope you can share a how to build it guide. I algo have a 3d printer at home 😉 and with common parts from IKEA whenever possible we could build it anywhere !
Hero without a cape!
Later that day, the birds found a way to sneak a bite on the box
Brilliant 👍👍👍
Sir you are incredible
Awesome and coolest idea , maker
Awesome 😀
Me: Oh man that's so cool, I love it.
The feral, lizard brained part of me: *hE's BiRD-HaNniBaL-*
AMAZING ❤️❤️
I'm glad he used his skills for good
Now to use the same type of device to train humans to put their own litter into bins and recycle.
That's so cool
Pretty cool! 👍🏽
Your such a Genius sir😊
Fantastic
Amazing idea. I'm just wonder what happens though if they discover that rocks also fit in the hole?
Wow that amazing subscribed
birds are cleaning the parks, nature is healing
Clever to just explain individual components so people come up with their own ways to do it
Not just mindlessly follow exact design step by step
I can appreciate that
Great!👍❤
This is a very interesting project..
Fabulous !!! May I ask what the black shroud to the right of the food receptacle is ? Thanks !!
How do you train the birds to know to bring the bottle caps and drop them in the hole?
Youre a genius!!
Good idea, congratulations friend
Awesome
Very good work 👍👍👍👍😍😍😍😍
Briillant!
This man is a genius, he speaks facts
Hey hans. Awesome.
Det här är genial 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪✊🏽
If that breaksdown the bird will hit jackpot
I like you Hans. Subscribed.
Amazing invention ! You should try to do the same with cigarette butts ! ;)
it is great
Bet a squirrel would love. Fun project but afraid now days metal bottle caps not used much anymore.
Fåglar slutar då aldrig att förvåna mig. Fantastiska djur ♥
0:03 You exactly sound like Minister Rufus Scrimgeour from Harry potter played by Bill Nighy. Very interesting project.
How did you get the magpies to initially learn that if they put bottle caps in the hole they get food?
Also do you just toss bottle caps in the garden for them to find?
I wish to make this too , the more , the better the solution works
I expected a bundle of magpies waiting in line, bottle caps on beak, waiting for this video shoot to finally end...
Very good idea, just make an adjustment, 3 grains of food for each bottle cap.
Genius
At 2:04 a magpie says: don't steal our nuts, they aren't for you.
this man gonna be the richest man in fallout