I think the study is pretty straight-forward: If you want to throw 80-85 mph, get good shoulder-hip separation. If you want to throw 95-100 mph, you better add good linear drive to it, especially since it allows you to rotate later and increase separation.
Well I mean. If you want to throw 90+ maybe sums it up better. Not everyone will every get close to 100mph. That either require genetic jackpots, or drugs.
+Joe Bill That's true. I thought about that right after the post. I can't stand the "you can be Nolan Ryan, too!" lie I have seen from some personal pitching coaches. Of course, I also hate the "It's just genetics" excuse for bad coaching when athletes don't improve. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
Jd 5252 It is a dangerous reality isn't it. It is a shame that the fitness industry can try to sell you dumb workout plans, and insane fitness goals for things that aren't completely achievable without drugs. Of course PRO sports will always try to hide the drug use, because it is better for business, but it is a sad reality.
So it would be safe to say that if the delta between "on the knees" and full pitching motion is much less than 20%, that your linear movement is inefficient, and if it's greater than 20% then your rotational is more inefficienct?
I’m kinda confused does this mean if you throw 80 from your knees you can potentially throw 100 if you do everything right with lower half and linear move. So if you throw 80 from knees and 90 from mound that means you have a bad linear move and energy right?
I think the NPA also missed the fact that when the players were put on their knees their hips were open to the target as well. Hip rotation needs to be created through a linear drive. Just a sidenote.
Even if you concede this point you still win the argument. They can say only 20% of your velo is legs. Which is great. 100MPH no legs thats only 80. The gap between the MLB guys and us high schoolers throwing 85 is that 15% we aren't using! The value is in the Gap. Baseball is a winner take all game. The payout is pyramidical. If you make any upward movement you make a huge jump in reward. The law of diminishing returns governs that we must use our legs to get the last 20% of our bodies otherwise we won't beat the other guys who are using their legs.
My son is a 16 catcher throwing 1.98 pop time. Do you believe in a Throwing velocity programs using a series of weighted balls from 2 pounds, down to 2 ounces. I'm a fan of the weight training, arm care, shoulder strengthening, scapular stabilization, triple extension exercises , power clean , Core strengthening activities, flexibility, hip shoulder separation etc.......! The weighted ball throwing program makes me a bit nervous for shoulder and elbow injuries! What is your opinion in this topic.?
Tylor Cameron best of luck to any future careers :) I’m into bowling now. Our school got runner up in the 6A state finals so I got that going for me lol
Michael Stokes if you knew you had evidence, you would have provided it. However, you are intellectually dishonest, and did not provide it and called me a troll. Either provide your evidence, or admit you're full of shit. Yes, I do have the capacity to understand medical terminology. I'm going to school to be a physical therapist.
Michael Stokes you're changi the subject. I put a comment as a joke, because it's something I say "hit with logic". The point of discussion is on your claim that Brent's training methods are injurious.
I think the study is pretty straight-forward: If you want to throw 80-85 mph, get good shoulder-hip separation. If you want to throw 95-100 mph, you better add good linear drive to it, especially since it allows you to rotate later and increase separation.
Well I mean. If you want to throw 90+ maybe sums it up better. Not everyone will every get close to 100mph. That either require genetic jackpots, or drugs.
+Joe Bill That's true. I thought about that right after the post. I can't stand the "you can be Nolan Ryan, too!" lie I have seen from some personal pitching coaches. Of course, I also hate the "It's just genetics" excuse for bad coaching when athletes don't improve. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
Jd 5252 It is a dangerous reality isn't it. It is a shame that the fitness industry can try to sell you dumb workout plans, and insane fitness goals for things that aren't completely achievable without drugs.
Of course PRO sports will always try to hide the drug use, because it is better for business, but it is a sad reality.
we have gyms in dominican republic
You should do a video on maximizing flexibility
So it would be safe to say that if the delta between "on the knees" and full pitching motion is much less than 20%, that your linear movement is inefficient, and if it's greater than 20% then your rotational is more inefficienct?
My god man it keeps getting better. Thank you!
I'm a college softball pitching coach, and I' gonna try and replicate this if possible, and see the results! Very interesting stuff!
Zack Lach they have a softball program now
I’m kinda confused does this mean if you throw 80 from your knees you can potentially throw 100 if you do everything right with lower half and linear move. So if you throw 80 from knees and 90 from mound that means you have a bad linear move and energy right?
It just means your upper half is more efficient. But technically sure
Extremely clear !!!
I would of thought you can throw at least 90
I think the NPA also missed the fact that when the players were put on their knees their hips were open to the target as well. Hip rotation needs to be created through a linear drive. Just a sidenote.
That’s why their on their knees… so they didn’t have a linear move
Great demonstration. When you did the second pitch at 73, was your back foot pointing to the target, or was it still parallel to the rubber?
Even if you concede this point you still win the argument. They can say only 20% of your velo is legs. Which is great. 100MPH no legs thats only 80. The gap between the MLB guys and us high schoolers throwing 85 is that 15% we aren't using! The value is in the Gap. Baseball is a winner take all game. The payout is pyramidical. If you make any upward movement you make a huge jump in reward. The law of diminishing returns governs that we must use our legs to get the last 20% of our bodies otherwise we won't beat the other guys who are using their legs.
thank you for this video sir
Can you work with my son online through vids. Brennan mercer baseball. 17 yr
you had poor hip to shoulder seperation
My son is a 16 catcher throwing 1.98 pop time. Do you believe in a Throwing velocity programs using a series of weighted balls from 2 pounds, down to 2 ounces. I'm a fan of the weight training, arm care, shoulder strengthening, scapular stabilization, triple extension exercises , power clean , Core strengthening activities, flexibility, hip shoulder separation etc.......! The weighted ball throwing program makes me a bit nervous for shoulder and elbow injuries! What is your opinion in this topic.?
Ron Haradzin he doesnt like weighted balls
Good stuff! Would be interesting to know how much the actual pitching mound adds to ball velocity.
For me roughly 3 to 4 mph
Andre Martinez lol, im only in my second season lifetime and I still throw about 55
Tylor Cameron nice. I don’t play baseball anymore but good job :)
Tylor Cameron best of luck to any future careers :)
I’m into bowling now. Our school got runner up in the 6A state finals so I got that going for me lol
Is this radar gun from jugs??
The kid hitting in the back 😂😂
Do you have any certified instructors in Virginia?
Well. 64 is exactly 80% of 80
Brent hitting people where it hurts with logic, as usual.
Michael Stokes can you provide some examples of who Brent injured?
Michael Stokes if you knew you had evidence, you would have provided it. However, you are intellectually dishonest, and did not provide it and called me a troll. Either provide your evidence, or admit you're full of shit.
Yes, I do have the capacity to understand medical terminology. I'm going to school to be a physical therapist.
Michael Stokes You're full of shit. If it will injure me, PROVIDE EVIDENCE. that's how it works, when you make a claim you support it.
Michael Stokes you're changi the subject. I put a comment as a joke, because it's something I say "hit with logic". The point of discussion is on your claim that Brent's training methods are injurious.
You mad 💀
cool
Most pitchers are naturals and don't care about study's....
and most pitchers dont make it in the big leagues.