@@Evo9000 because of NSW's COVID conditions, I actually NEVER GOT TO TEST DRIVE the i30N. But with all the research and reviews I had, I was pretty confident that is was going to be a great car that was able to serve all my purposes. I had to wait for red one which was getting shipped over. After actually taking delivery (mid October) and getting to drive it was EXACTLY as I imagined. I am one very happy i30N owner. For me, for the price with what you get as an overall 'package' was miles ahead of the competition.
Bit late to the party, but i really have to agree with the points made with the i30n DCT. I bought a new 2020 i30n because it was manual and had a manual handbrake. Even now nearly 2 years on i just love driving it. I would never have upgraded to the facelift with a manual. A few days ago i test drove the DCT to see what the fuss is all about. I am now the owner of a new PB DCT that i will pick up on the 5th of Jan. I have always driven manual and never tried a semi-auto. This was crazy fun and when pottering around effortless and quiet (on the inside). The NGS does what it says and if i could have it on all the time, i would be in prison haha. The DCT is definitely not a step down in the case of this car. Its a gem!
hahahahahaha love this comment! i totally agree, i am a manual driver through and through every car ive owned myself has been a manual and ive never had any interest in an automatic at all...... excpet for this or any of hyundais cars that come with the wet dct, it would be the choice id go with too, that dct just looks absolutely insane and fun to drive and makes it quicker without a doubt. i really just want to test drive one
Had my GR Yaris Circuit Pack for 3 months now it's a fun Car to drive though I really can't wait to take it on some great B roads when I get some time off work.
Sadly we don't get the Circuit Pack. We only get it as a limited edition called the 'Rallye'. With only 200 units made available and sold so far. If you want to share what it's been like to own the GR Yaris with Circuit Pack so far, you can share your owner review on ProductReview.com.au. Sounds like an excellent car for those B roads, that's for sure.
Now as a GR owner I agree with the reviewer. Yes GR more special car. Still in love with it after almost 10 months but just driving around at speed limits it's not the most exciting. To owners of both. Pick either car you will be a happy person simple. PS GR Corolla coming so love to see all 3 VS each other.
@@Dave-gl6jb I reckon with a good exhaust and perhaps a new intake/ BOV it will be bring more excitement when driving in the suburbs. Take the pops and bangs away from the i30n and what are you left with? Fully stock GR owner here. I like the sound inside, but would like some exhaust noise eventually. Like you im happy with it stock for now!
@@Dave-gl6jb got a 40k base! So I'm well in front. For my driving I think the dunlop wheels are good enough. I abide to the speed limits mostly. I'd probably put that money towards a front splitter or nicer rims.
As a GR Yaris owner and die hard lifetime car enthusiast I have to say this is probably the most honest review of the Yaris I have seen. Not many people appreciate or understand what homologation brings to the table, and what it takes away. Thanks for such a great video, subscribed and awaiting more. You’ve got a bright future Cam!
Hey Jason, I put a comment above but was reading yours. If I'm pretty much just wanting to enjoy the mountain drives with as much capability as possible what are your thoughts on which way to go. Cheers mate - Chris
@@chrisandshazza01 Hey Chris, where are you located? What’s currently done to the car? I’ve had a few different suspension setups on the GR, a pursuit of happiness you might say. The single biggest upgrade was the sway bars. I’m of the opinion the only ones to get are the Cusco items. From there if the car is not a rallye/circuit get the rallye rear shocks. DNA top mounts for the front of the car add camber and castor at the same time, and the white line castor bush is also a very worthwhile addition. The combination of these 3 will make for a very capable road car. The other thing that’s absolutely critical is the drivers seat. The original isn’t up to the task at all, and once you change it you’ll realise all you were missing.
I *like* both cars, but having seen em both in the flesh and then test driving the i30n… I *love* the Hyundai. Price, more space & dct (perfect fun vs town driving), it’s just epic!
@@ProductReviewCars had mk7 Golf R with dsg,made the car super easy to drive but lost out as a drivers car as a result,haven't driven the i30n so maybe its an improvement.👍
@@grahamhaynes7658 The DCT on the i30N is far better then the MK7s DSG. Faster and snappier shifts, added with the amazing sound. Was a manual transmission fanatic aswell, but the DCT on the i30N is fun in its own way (I do miss double clutching on down shifts though)
If I had the money I would both. Use the I30 a daily and keep the GR for weekends...with the GR being a homologation car it's surely going to be sought after in a couple of decades, especially low km and stock examples
2 different model's Under 40.000 € , I have a i20N I love this car, she's perfect. The new I 30 N dct 280cv is gorgeous! Very quick, loud, tecnologic , lot of tips inside. BUT, BUT . THE PARIS GR is a real WRC Hot hatch , is perfect for drifting, and power slides, powerfull is the best car for the segment in the WORLD in this timeS , I AM SERIOUS.
I love my I30N but living in the UK with the amount of bad weather we have i think its borderline worth having the car if I lived somewhere colder or wetter you wouldn't be able to have fun in the N nearly as much as the AWD yaris.
You can run down the gears fast with the paddles, under heavy braking you can hold the down paddle and it will drop to lowest gear, rather than multiple presses of the down paddle.
Erm...The GR Yaris is one of the quickest cars off the line?? UK Top Gear " it’s not the numbers that make the Yaris fun. Although the off-the-line party trick is bloody amusing - I’d just like to point out that its 0-30mph time of 1.48secs is faster than an Audi TT RS, Ferrari 488 - or 488 Pista - Lambo Urus, Honda NSX, any McLaren 570, any Tesla Model 3 and the A45 S "
How's your car going? Any mods-tyres etc yet!? Personally, I don't think it's that good OFF the line, unless you want to fu.. the clutch very quickly. Prefer a little role b4 flooring. I had the original i30N performance pack and my GR Yaris convenience pack in uk is better for me. Allows one to drive it enthusiastically virtually daily. I30N was utter shite in damp, wet, greasy and cold conditions if floored. Both on the original pz4's, yes likely improved a little now, but also on michelin ps4s's I had fitted! Bunny hopped in the wet, slight tramlining and torque steer at times too. That hasn't been eliminated. Chasing Cars dct review in the dry confirmed this! Yes, the exhaust suited the car, actually think mine sounded much better than this example. Don't miss it though. Just wish they'd upped the fake noises in the GR. The loudness pre max revs should be nearly double the noise, ideally. It's what you hear, NOT people outside, unless solely trying to impress young teenagers
@@James-RJM Hi James, yeah loving mine. I've fitted the TRD stripe, ceramic coat and had the wheels refinished in dark grey. Pandora alarm. Pros Rapid in any weather. It's great in the north west uk where it's greasy after raining on a hot day. Had barely any wheel spin. It's actually really solid inside, I think its annoying when all the reviews say it's cheap it's actually a nice dash and well built. The JBL stereo is decent, rear speakers are terrible though so most of the music is in front of you. Love the heads up display. Engines very flexible, I dont rev it out much because it's so quick. Handling is really sharp when mid corner and it's very flat in the fast corners. Great daily driver because it covers ground so quick, small and agile, easy to park. Looks ace, really love it with the TRD stripe. Quite like the fake engine sound between 2-5k revs. Cons Bit of excessive lean in tight slow corners. Not really a con but it gets loads of attention and most love it. I'm just waiting for the day someone keys it. Sick of turning off lane assist and auto stop. Would also prefer it if you could turn on the autoblip as permanent because it's really effective. Wish it would lock after driving above 5mph like other cars. Wish I could start the car in track because I use that mode the most. Normal mode does tend to understeer but partly because the steering Is quite slow from the centre, so it's literally not steering enough but also the nose runs a little bit wide in that mode. Bit thirsty on the fuel as well. Getting about 27.7mpg, I tend to do a lot of short journeys. Not tried any other tyres yet, but will probably go for Pzeros. Next jobs: Repaint the calipers Poss lowering springs TRD splitter and side skirts
@@Stringwar Hi mate. Pleased to hear you're having a blast!🙂 Agree with much of your feedback. No wheelspin so far on Goodyear Eagle f1 asymmetric 5's!! Like you, I watched the tyrereviews 18's test but ruled out the pzeros on the weak aquaplaning etc. Yes, better than the original pz4's that came on my N apparently, but still too much of a negative. A5's are very good. Firmer sidewalls to michelin ps4s's, that I was running on the N. Wish I'd put the A5's on that now. You should, seriously, consider them mate. I rev out to max when feasible. I get your slightly too much lean at times comment! Retested a circuit pack the other day to get a proper back to back, instead of 7+ months gap. Wasn't disappointed with my convenience pack version. I preferred it. Partly due to the extra toys etc but also prefer the suspension, 8/10. Yes, if tracking you'd be better off with the circuit pack car. Again, no torsens intervention with the circuit pack when keeping esc on, lol.... Closed my eyes as I saw your keying the car comment! I have parking anxieties always. You can only do as much as is possible. In my case, if I park up and have a bad vibe, I leave lol. It's taken me half an hour plus to park, after finding a space instantly 😡 The joys of a new/bespoke car that you love! And yes, if I caught someone damaging her, I'd likely end up in prison. I also have an anal, now subconscious starting routine! Wan.y start Stop off, imt on, track mode, hold down lane assist off! Boring as fu.. but tolerable 😃 The no auto lock as pulling away is strange, economy on the main screen for longterm is 25.3 lol but the figure at the end of a drive, b4 opening the door, is usually late 20's to early 30's and on a 50 miles drive, without going crazy, I've seen about 34😉 My opinion only of course, but it might be prudent to change the tyres b4 the other minor mods you've mentioned?! Driving mine on the road only and keeping esc on, I've never had wheelspin or understeer, oversteer, tramlining, bunny hopping etc. Yes, you can feel the electronics working below you, but it is still effective and great fun👍
@@James-RJM EVO have just done their annual tyre test. The top 4 were: 1) Pirelli P-zero PZ4 (£111) 2) Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport (£101) 3) Bridgestone Potenza Sport (£98) 4) Dunlop SP Maxx RT 2 (£88 on blackcircles) The GY Eagle F1s were better in the aquaplane test though as you mentioned. The F1 A5s are £88 so defo a good shout. Be interesting to see the difference when I bin the old Dunlop's.
@@Stringwar Cheers, will take a look online, if available. I was favouring the f1 supersport from the 19's test in tyrereviews with awd focus RS BUT changed my mind with the 18's review, hence getting the A5's. Chances are, with awd, rather than fwd golf gti, the supersport will be almost as good in the wet? and slightly firmer sidewalls, sharper and better in the dry! After all, they're 20% track biased. Very happy with the A5's, actually hoping for an A6 or A7 or supersport 2? soon to be released. F1's have a better steering feel to the michelin equivalents, firmer sidewalls, cheaper and READILY available!😉
Would have LOVED to have driven the Civic Type R before it was retired for this generation. Sadly, we came into reviewing cars just a little late to review this gen. You bet we'll be giving the next gen the run through when it lands in Aus.
While I understand your reasoning for comparing these 2, not sure they should be compared? I think the market for each is quite different? Just price, HP and Torque is too limiting or narrow? I liked your review of each, they were great reviews - not sure on them being in the same vid and 'comparing'? To me comparing would indicate a buyer is deciding between the 2. I just don't see it with these 2 cars? There may be people in this category, my opinion is not many are. Both excellent in their categories and look amazing but not sure if they compete like this? Happy to be proven or convinced otherwise! Yaris, AWD, small 2 door, light, one mode (always on), suit someone wanting a base rally car and no passengers. i30N, FWD, 5 door, 2 general modes at the flick of a switch. Calm and easy when driving normally - mad when the button is pressed. Tarmack oriented. Little bit porky but the owner does not care for the few milliseconds lost. The fact that it is 5 door with a usable boot and has a tame mode is of much more interest . If you were comparing on performance only, then the Yaris will win all day long. That power to weight is fantastic on top of AWD. Different league to the i30N. I don't see the Yaris as a hot hatch as such because of its one (no compromise) dimension. i30N is a compromise car. Even the Golf GTI and Focus ST are compromise cars (and darn good at it). The other interesting point is the comment on the DCT and getting 'stuck' in a gear. I drove the DCT and there were quite a few times in normal, boring, 'I am just going across town to the shops' mode that the DCT would not go up to the gear I wanted. Was always having to flick the paddle to get it to change up. I assume that the transmission might 'learn' me and start shifting up earlier? The manual is appealing because I am old school and love manuals, and I get to select the gear in all modes. I know the DCT is MUCH faster and awesome. But feel I would be saying 'I wish I was in the manual' more times than 'I wish I bought the DCT'. Plus the fact that these manuals are a tech that is disappearing. The i30N and Yaris next gens will be hybrids/electrics and 'autos'. Damn good, damn fast, just not the old tech manual. Now is the last chance to get something performance and manual before they go away.
Interesting take, and plenty of valid points. My main point for comparison was on price and power. Seeing as many Australians buy to own, rather than lease. So I'd put price way up there as a reason to compare the two. Since buyers would more than likely see what else they can get for a similar price. Then the 200kW argument kicks in, as spending more on a Golf GTi which has less power, would make a lot less sense than buying an i30N with slightly more power than the GR Yaris (on paper). The GR Yaris is in it's own segment, but I thought it would be fun to try and choose another hot hatch at the top of its game with one of the best hot hatches you can buy on the market.
I looked at buying either car and I am not the only one. I bought the Yaris, just wish I had some of the tricks the i30N has and the space but I won't swap for the GR.
@@ProductReviewCars it's a tough clutch, 5000rpm should be ok. Maybe not dump it but let it slip slightly and then let it go. Performance drive did sub 5 seconds when revving it high and a respectable 5.5/5.6s when revving to 3000-3500rpm
@@Philbyyyy Wow! Makes the difference. No doubt it's a more than capable AWD monster. Just wish Hyundai did an AWD treatment to the i30N (hopefully next gen gets it as an option).
@@ProductReviewCars If they do, it will likely be considerably heavier again, effectively ANOTHER golf R or a35 amg, albeit with a lesser quality interior and slightly lower price tag. Refreshed i30N is getting pricey now too though. I owned the original late 2017 manual i30N performance pack. Great fun in the dry, depressing in wet, damp and cold conditions due to never ending wheelspin/bunny hopping on front axle which was only marginally better once changing to michelin ps4s's. Had it for 3 years and then got the GR Yaris, uk, with the convenience pack. Had Goodyear Eagle f1 asymmetric 5's put on from collection. It's far better as a daily blast. It puts the power down without any wheelspin etc and grips phenomenally well. No understeer issues on the A5's keeping esc on. Didn't get the circuit pack due to wanting the extras in the Convenience, plus the torsens on the circuit only activate when esc is disabled. Something I didn't do in my 3 test drives nor now in my car. It's my daily blast for the road only 👍
@@James-RJM Killer to experience both cars. That's right, AWD will send this thing a lot closer to 2 tonne. Maybe an AWD production RM20 could be Hyundai's special sports car as a two seater. Could imagine the GR to be a great swap, as you've already experienced the i30N. Enjoy!
I got i20 N , best car for the segment fucking wow, I love the i30... I'd like have one... BUT. THE Yaris is a perfect car.... For speed, for drifting, snow, mountains dirt road... Is really powerful 😍 I'd like have one.. but is so expensive in italy
60k + and both with yards and yards of black hard plastic in their cabins. Lord knows! the Original GTI the Volkswagen Golf of the early 70's with its leather clad and tartan textured luxurious sports seats, for what was a small budget hatchback, was a revelation back then!
I wonder if car companies are scraping in the profit margins wherever they can and as time went on, quality interior materials had to go on the chopping block.
Prefer the performance over the interior any day of the week. But yeah, sadly industry offerings means we don't get both like we used to this side of $60,000. Even the new VW GTi suffers with less luxury appointments.
Good comparison as I had the several Hyundais on my short list. Since we didn't get the GR Yaris in the states I'll be buying a GR Corolla over the i30N. Just having the AWD ability of the GR for the winter fun is a must. Even if I bought a i30N I would buy a 6MT as I feel more disconnected when driving a DCT. And that exhaust on the i30N is horrible to me, it sounds great until the bangs and pops which I hate on a street car. I'll just upgrade the exhaust on my GR Corolla as there has been a lot of options that make the GR Yaris sound great.
Cannot wait to see what the GR Corolla holds once everything has been announced. It'll be one of the strongest hot hatches of 2022 for sure. The pops and bangs aren't for everyone, certainly got a mix of smiles and angry faces when driving around town in the i30N.
@@ProductReviewCars I like to blend in more than be seen and heard in a way that can draw the attention of the police and car thieves! The GR Corolla should be amazing. I'm already on the waiting list for one when they come out next year. My dealer said that they have been getting information about it from Toyota and they are very excited now too!
@@jimsgaragetoys The i30N can be an absolute cop magnet and have your photo taken for the neighbourhood complaint Facebook page. Could imagine GR Corolla demand in the US should be massive. Fingers crossed dealers don't mark up too harsh.
4:33 what i love about i30N is this pop bang sound and best thing is its stock💥💥💥 either manual or dct still love it, i dont care if its slower than type R or Yaris but its still fast tho👍
If I had the money I would buy both. One for a daily driver and the other for the weekend and track. But the GR Yaris is a different car to the I30N or even the Type R and Golf R. There isn’t a car like it at its price and what it can do.
Why are so many people so upset about this review. At the end of the day, a review is the subjective opinion of the reviewer, and is not gospel. Don’t know why everyone can’t just get along and respect both cars for being amazing at what they do.
Both cars have cult followings, this one was sure to kick the hornets nest. Appreciate the support! Always a bit of fun picking cars that compete but aren't always obvious to compare.
@@ProductReviewCars always happy to support your content. Uncommon comparisons are something that are rare to find. (Also an i30N DCT owner myself, so this review was a bit of fresh air, I’d happily own both cars though!)
As someone that’s owned a i30N since November last year I do regret not getting the GR Yaris Ralleye, the inability to get the power down in a fwd car and the axle tramp in return is terrible including the suspension. Noise is great but does not outweighs the awd and suspension the Yaris offers. If the GR Corolla comes out in auto that’s my next upgrade
Great review; agree with everything. It's the very reason I've migrated from a GR to the N. The fact that Toyota even made the Yaris is awesome and it's a special car but the i30 is just more fun more of the time. The track warranty doesn't hurt either ;)
Thank you! At the end of the day, it does boil down to daily driving fun, which yeah, the i30N does a little bit better. Would also love to hear what it's like owning either the GR Yaris or the i30N, you can write an owner review on ProductReview.com.au.
For the last time. The GR Yaris is not a “hot hatch” it’s a one off homologation special, hand built and custom chassis vehicle a “hot hatch” is a economic car that the manufacture just installed go fast parts onto the vehicle the Yaris built from the ground up as a race car. These two cars can not be compared in ANY SENSE.
The GR Yaris, actually shares many components with the humble Yaris. It is so far removed from what a real WRC Yaris runs, it's just some beefed up Yaris hatch, with a silly homologation badge stuck on it (much like how Toyota stuck a Supra badge on a...BMW Z4). Pure marketing mate, pure marketing. Clearly you're a sucker for this marketing.
Both cars compare on price and power. If you're buying one, you'll look at what else you can get for the same price. Both are unique, but compare on paper when shopping around.
F1 drivers have no choice! It's a competitive sport, run by fat cats. It's subjective and likely becoming a higher percentage favouring auto! That's the times we live in, unfortunately. For me, manual as long as possible PLEASE.......
@@James-RJM I do really understand your point and as you stated - it's all subjective. I just don't like when someone is discriminating others who like automatic, or have no choice to go for stick. I do prefer stick but I do not have choice and will go for automatic , it does not mean I'm not a real driver!
Your knowledgeable review is for the convenience basic gr car which is still a homologation base car but not the full circuit pack gr car which is whole different ball game. what you actually forgot to say is Chris Harris, Harry’s Garage and Clarkson and many professionals should buy the a Hyundai I 130 lol. Do you know know what homologation or Tommy Mackinen stand for?
I don't see the point in a young reviewer referencing other well known motoring journalists who get sponsored to promote cars. This review is more authentic for us ordinary people who drive cars we own.
Both great cars one will depreciate faster than it goes and and will end up being scrapped, and one will be extremely collectable and expensive in years to come.
@@robertarthur3711 true, but if you are a family man who can only afford one car then the more practical one will always win as far as daily driving fun is concerned.
@@paulklp8262 after 3 years they are still 27k upwards talk about strong residuals stronger than virtually any other new car, but I’m not bothered as I can afford anything. Lol
Man decisions. I back onto Kangaroo Valley with Mt Cambewarra and the very fun Barrengarry looking at me. For mountain twisties that include wet/damp roads which of the two do you think? grrrrr
Performance wise the GR kills the i30N. It's literally built for rally motorsport. AWD plus when you engage the clutch and rip the hand brake it disconnects the front drive shafts aka drifting. BUT since dickheads want to sell it for 20k over what its worth overall the i30N will be largely more popular. Not to mention, as a JDM owner and life time fan, these days its so expensive and more of a financial flex to say you got this or that at car meets when it comes to aftermarket parts.
Toyota is doing a great advertising campaign for its brand with the allotment sales throughout the world . Their stringing out the attention the GR Yaris is attracting for the brand by still allowing special orders and this selling method gets free advertising that could last years .
I think they are simply too different, the Yaris GR is a modern homolagation rally car, while the i30N is a modern hot hatch. Lightweight, small, adjustable permament AWD vs regular sized, FWD, DCT, feature loaded.
Having driven and considered both I ended up buying the GR, as it is just far more special car. Yes the I30n is sublime, but it’s just a very good hot hatch based on a regular i30 model. The Yaris on the other hand is fully bespoke, extremely limited, hand built (probably at a loss for Toyota) and hence gives a lot more sense of occasion compared to pretty much anything in the price range. And speaking of the price, albeit Yaris is not cheap, i believe it will hold its value much better than a Hyundai.
Interesting! Totally can understand grabbing a GR over the i30N. Would love to hear your thoughts on owning the GR Yaris if you'd like to review it on our site (ProductReview.com.au).
I respect your view however the whole idea of a hot hatch is to be downright huge fun but also perfectly suitable for chucking the kids in the back and pootling down the shops. No doubt the GR is more bespoke and special, but its not a better hot hatch
@@user-vk4vd7vr5t so basically you are saying that the i30N is a better hot hatch cause it’s larger and more practical? Coming from the Abarth 500 I can say that I never experienced any space issues. Took it on long road trips, moved houses with it, fit occasional passengers on the rear sit and overall saw no problem with it as a daily. With Yaris being significantly larger than the 500, it’s really as much car as one could need for a family of two, at least here in Europe. With additional benefits of lightness and ease of parking that’s much appreciated a lot more often than a bit of extra hauling space.
@@user-vk4vd7vr5t I own a GRY and totally agree with you. As a hot hatch, not just the i30N but hot Audis and Golfs are far better options as a family car and in a straight line or fast A road, the GRY would be destroyed. That said, where I live I have twisty and bumpy B roads and in this environment the GRY has no competition from its hot hatch rivals and in the wet well I can’t think of anything much that would live with it across those twisty backroads. In short, two different cars aimed at different markets both exceptional at what they’re designed for.
Nothing beats the feeling of manual gear changing. They trying to mimic that which will.obviously take any lazy automatic lover but they'll never get that type of replication
People are always complaining there are no fun cars around anymore, not enough engaging cars, not enough “drivers” cars. Then everyone goes and buys a DCT because “its faster” (a complete utter nonsense reason for buying a car because of a split second gear change. Cant wait to see the comparisons when the GR corolla comes out
@@ProductReviewCars nope, comment wasnt directed squarely at you, the car community in general is always crying that there is no "fun drivers cars" yet they want to change the nature of what that meant for "convenience" of a non manual
Veloster N vs GR Corolla will be interesting. If they sold them in the US, hopefully it would have resulted in even more reason to make more of these types of cars.
@@Mexxx65 no, you are wrong. If a hatchback is fwd, makes entertaining pops and bangs, is 5 doors, yet it’s fun and practical but all steel, same body as regular version maybe engine up in power then it’s a hothatch. Tho if a car is less fun because is too effective to go quickly, impractical, doesn’t bother how it sound, awd, grips like fuck, has carbon roof and aluminium panels, made for rally homologation, body is different than regular version it’s a sports car. i20 goes wrc, missed opportunity to make i20n a sports car, but of course it’s all about money.
Interesting classification. Almost in its own league of rally homologation specials. Alongside the likes of the Toyota Celica GT-Four and Subaru WRX STi S209. Where the i30N (like you said) is the very definition of a hot hatch.
The GRY is a rally rep and after driving a GRY circuit pack it confirmed in my head after owning numerous hot hatches and that is hot hatches are so much more fun. I find awd rally reps so dull and capable but that's my opinion and each to their own but no the GRY is definitely not a sports car lol
I have a 2005 Yaris vvti 1.3 130,000 miles The electric drivers window is broken the foam is pouring out of the seats it stinks of kebabs,and sometimes has fragile tape ardourning the bodywork,and its had an engine management light on and a airbag warning light goes on and off.The interior lights are a bit iffy too. And im alway shelling out money just to keep it on the road. But do you know what?I wouldn't swap the bastard thing for anything! Anything except a GR Yaris that is.
@@ProductReviewCars of course, but no manufacturer will deny the same conditions for a car advertised as being track capable. To Hyundai's credit I heard they even replaced someone's brakes after they only lasted one track day, but that was at an early N event, so it would have been a bit of news if they refused. The warranty with Hyundai is very limited - no mods, no timed events, no competitive events etc. Renault had honoured an engine issue at a track day for an RS Clio. No "track" warranty needed. I would say the same about any ST or RS Ford, Civic type R, GR model etc.
For all the good sounds, and for the most fun in the Yaris, you need to push it. Pushing it takes a little more than what the i30N offers in the form of an exciting exhaust sound. That was more the point.
When the Golf GTi already costs $65,000. I can't imagine how much more the Golf R is going to come in at. Hard to compare for those looking to actually buy a GR Yaris vs Golf R. Saying that, I'm very much for comparing the cars if we get our hands on an R next year.
@@ProductReviewCars yeah i think thats kind of the point. On paper i think the golf r and gr yaris (circuit pack version) look pretty similar performance-wise (manual vs manual). You could show what a deal the gr yaris is, despite being a homologation special. 39k gpb for the R vs 33k gbp for the GR circuit pack
@@Weltbummler23 True. The 'Circuit Pack' GR Yaris is called the Rallye here, and is a lot closer in price to the new R. Hopefully we can make a comparison video with the two next year.
Would have to say, the i30N DCT is the best transmission to get with the new i30N. And the GR Yaris has the best manual transmission south of $60K. More of a mix-up than just manual v manual.
It is a WRC Homologation Special, but at the end of the day, it's a hot hatch for under $60,000. Not everyone is going to buy it based off that merit alone.
The i30N is a crap car really, what a young boy that likes to make noise and to be seen. That blue is a bland for a colour to market it. The GR is a small compacted wrc drift corner taking car something better than.but reminds me of the focus rs. Automatic gearboxes always fuck out first before a manual one does no matter how they can market its passed manual yet they still use it in both options triptronic or tapping the gearbox still needs a movement on a person to make it move into gear. Yes the GR soft but with upgrades on exhaust and system updated like stage 1,2,3 that toyota kitty pounces plus the gr is faster than the i30N in a quarter mile hands down. So top speed is nothing yet that small.engine can keep.up with it long ends if it had more rpm. It would be a whole different game
Jeez you badge snobs are pathetic. Porsche make amazing sports cars and I applauded their engineering and performance but to dismiss a GR Yaris because it’s made by Toyota shows a staggering lack of knowledge about why this car was built and what it is capable of. Try driving one across a twisty undulating back road and tell me if you could achieve the same cross country pace in anything up to and including a well sorted GT3. And that’s in the dry. Try it in the wet and then name anything from any marque that could live with it.
Was extremely disappointed when I drove the GR Yaris. Pretty terrible visibility (even out the front), not great seats or handling, and pretty sub par features. Hyundai and Mazda blow it out of the water imo for a much cheaper price.
El toyota GR con pad circuito y las Yokohama Advan A52 en los circuitos pequeños es imbatible un misil ganas a todos los coches potentes es otra cosa en los circuitos largos es otra cosa y en los tramos de rally es superman , pero el Hyundai me parece un coche increible por el precio y para todo uso y me gusta la comodidad de la caja semi autao ,soy raro con 68 años no soy tan purista y cuando usas una caja de porche te olvidas de las manuales ,si quieres un coche para todo el HYUNDAI y si lo quieres para tramos rally o circuitos cortos o medios TOYOTA GR YARIS , no te equivocas con ninguno , siempre a gusto de cada uno , mi coche de paseo o trabajo es automatico y lo tengo claro.
It's the normal GR, not the GR Rallye. They have allocated less than 200 here in Aus, so impossible to get your hands on right now. Also, more expensive so would make it harder to compare the two cars.
This is sad. Next to i30N this is one of the best HH in my opinion. Only matter of taste. If you have no family then Yaris. Fortunately in Europe we can still order it. Although I've oredered i30N to be honest.
You're absolutely right. Yaris is harder to order new than a new McLaren. Hopefully production ramps up next year (Toyota is promising return to normal for global production by Dec 2021).
No, the forte wasnt independent rear suspension, the i30 build Codes were FD, GD and PD, the closest Euro Kua/Hyundai would be the Kia Ceed, which had a similar front x member to the forte and cerato(which also had solid CTBAs, the ceed on the other Hand had an independent multi link rear)
Oops you're right. Meant it lacks a heads up display with one (which the Yaris has). I love the one in the i30N. Must have skipped my mind then and there.
Totally get that. Had some passengers finding it not as fun to listen to. However, it's a little more interesting with the DCT 'farts' and overrun rumbles.
At a standstill, for sure. Sounds a little better when driving around...but certainly needs an exhaust for a little more sound. Also, would love to hear your thoughts on what it's like owning an i30N, you can write an owner review on our site: ProductReview.com.au.
"The i30 N is a better hot hatch than the GR Yaris" is an oxymoron in that a hot hatch is not supposed to be a car you can drive sedately (ie: not hot) to acheive the advantage. That is the definition of a "cool hatch" as opposed to "hot" which the GR Yaris most definitely is. You sure can tell which company showers the reviewer with the most perks when they choose the lesser car over the better one. I don't own a GR Yaris nor an i30 by the way.
I mean isn't that why it's a hatchback? Practicality x performance. Wish we got the most perks! Clean slate, no company has any say or influence on how we review cars. GR Yaris is an excellent hot hatch, but in Aus, you're going to get more out of the i30N. That's the verdict.
@@ProductReviewCars You've missed my point. This is a hot hatch review. A hot hatch is something you have to drive fast to get the best out of it. It has abilities that aren't really apparent unless you a) break the speed limit, or b) go to a track. This is the exact reason why you *didn't* award the GR Yaris the win. Which simply leads people like myself to believe that Hyundai threw in a perk or two to 'sway' your opinion. Hot hatches, particularly of the traditional 3-door variety (see Mark 1 Golf GTi, the one that started it all) aren't about practicality. You can hype that up as the 'winning factor' in this review, but that also means the lesser car wins this comparison on that alone. THe conclusion that makes the most sense is "The Hyundai wins on practicality, but the GR Yaris is the better hot hatch.
Sure it's in its own league. However, if you want to buy a sub $60,000, 200kW performance car. You'll be interested to see what else you can get for the money too. But, if you're only after a GR Yaris, you're not going to be interested in anything else.
I can appreciate the engineering and driving dynamics of the GR Yaris. But, yeah. The i30N makes you laugh like a kid every time you get those loud pops going.
“It doesn’t sound legal.” That’s the way a hot hatch should sound.😁
I swear it'll get you pulled over. For a stock exhaust system!! A lot of fun.
I test drove both and ended up going with the i30n can not wait to pick it up in 3 weeks I got the dct with sunroof in red
Nice! That DCT is a real treat, red look great too! Enjoy!
yes, yes and yes. I've got the same a few weeks back (Premium S/roof DCT - Engine RED 🚗) you will NOT BE DISAPPOINTED
@@brettw8664 thanks for the reply yer after I got to test drive I knew it's the car for me
@@Evo9000 because of NSW's COVID conditions, I actually NEVER GOT TO TEST DRIVE the i30N. But with all the research and reviews I had, I was pretty confident that is was going to be a great car that was able to serve all my purposes. I had to wait for red one which was getting shipped over. After actually taking delivery (mid October) and getting to drive it was EXACTLY as I imagined. I am one very happy i30N owner. For me, for the price with what you get as an overall 'package' was miles ahead of the competition.
What exactly made you pick the I30 N over the GR Yaris?
i30 N without a doubt. It's the complete package; track-day warranty, four doors, 200+ KW, sounds fantastic and looks great
Well, i30n is not bad, but the Yaris is a street legal rally car
Bit late to the party, but i really have to agree with the points made with the i30n DCT. I bought a new 2020 i30n because it was manual and had a manual handbrake. Even now nearly 2 years on i just love driving it. I would never have upgraded to the facelift with a manual. A few days ago i test drove the DCT to see what the fuss is all about. I am now the owner of a new PB DCT that i will pick up on the 5th of Jan. I have always driven manual and never tried a semi-auto. This was crazy fun and when pottering around effortless and quiet (on the inside). The NGS does what it says and if i could have it on all the time, i would be in prison haha. The DCT is definitely not a step down in the case of this car. Its a gem!
hahahahahaha love this comment! i totally agree, i am a manual driver through and through every car ive owned myself has been a manual and ive never had any interest in an automatic at all...... excpet for this or any of hyundais cars that come with the wet dct, it would be the choice id go with too, that dct just looks absolutely insane and fun to drive and makes it quicker without a doubt. i really just want to test drive one
Dct wins for me too
Had my GR Yaris Circuit Pack for 3 months now it's a fun Car to drive though I really can't wait to take it on some great B roads when I get some time off work.
Sadly we don't get the Circuit Pack. We only get it as a limited edition called the 'Rallye'. With only 200 units made available and sold so far. If you want to share what it's been like to own the GR Yaris with Circuit Pack so far, you can share your owner review on ProductReview.com.au. Sounds like an excellent car for those B roads, that's for sure.
Now as a GR owner I agree with the reviewer.
Yes GR more special car. Still in love with it after almost 10 months but just driving around at speed limits it's not the most exciting.
To owners of both. Pick either car you will be a happy person simple.
PS GR Corolla coming so love to see all 3 VS each other.
Hey Dave do you have the stock exhaust and intake?
Fully stock.
Yeah it sounds like a Vacuum cleaner but it's ok for now.
@@Dave-gl6jb I reckon with a good exhaust and perhaps a new intake/ BOV it will be bring more excitement when driving in the suburbs. Take the pops and bangs away from the i30n and what are you left with?
Fully stock GR owner here. I like the sound inside, but would like some exhaust noise eventually. Like you im happy with it stock for now!
Yeah agree.
So a base GR or Rallye mate.
If Base a good set of Tyres add also mate.
@@Dave-gl6jb got a 40k base! So I'm well in front.
For my driving I think the dunlop wheels are good enough. I abide to the speed limits mostly. I'd probably put that money towards a front splitter or nicer rims.
As a GR Yaris owner and die hard lifetime car enthusiast I have to say this is probably the most honest review of the Yaris I have seen. Not many people appreciate or understand what homologation brings to the table, and what it takes away. Thanks for such a great video, subscribed and awaiting more. You’ve got a bright future Cam!
Greatly appreciate those words and support!
yea its really a special thing just look how many times a manufacturer has done it theres only a handful in the past 30 years or so
Hey Jason, I put a comment above but was reading yours. If I'm pretty much just wanting to enjoy the mountain drives with as much capability as possible what are your thoughts on which way to go. Cheers mate - Chris
@@chrisandshazza01 Hey Chris, where are you located? What’s currently done to the car? I’ve had a few different suspension setups on the GR, a pursuit of happiness you might say. The single biggest upgrade was the sway bars. I’m of the opinion the only ones to get are the Cusco items. From there if the car is not a rallye/circuit get the rallye rear shocks. DNA top mounts for the front of the car add camber and castor at the same time, and the white line castor bush is also a very worthwhile addition. The combination of these 3 will make for a very capable road car. The other thing that’s absolutely critical is the drivers seat. The original isn’t up to the task at all, and once you change it you’ll realise all you were missing.
I *like* both cars, but having seen em both in the flesh and then test driving the i30n… I *love* the Hyundai.
Price, more space & dct (perfect fun vs town driving), it’s just epic!
Wow this guy lives in an alternate universe where a dual clutch is more fun and involving than a good manual box 🤪
Gotta drive this one. Not your mate's DSG. It's a killer transmission option.
@@ProductReviewCars had mk7 Golf R with dsg,made the car super easy to drive but lost out as a drivers car as a result,haven't driven the i30n so maybe its an improvement.👍
I think all the golf kids love the Hyundai more simply because the car sounds like it's broken
@@grahamhaynes7658 The DCT on the i30N is far better then the MK7s DSG. Faster and snappier shifts, added with the amazing sound. Was a manual transmission fanatic aswell, but the DCT on the i30N is fun in its own way (I do miss double clutching on down shifts though)
If I had the money I would both. Use the I30 a daily and keep the GR for weekends...with the GR being a homologation car it's surely going to be sought after in a couple of decades, especially low km and stock examples
Ideal option.
2 different model's Under 40.000 € , I have a i20N I love this car, she's perfect. The new I 30 N dct 280cv is gorgeous! Very quick, loud, tecnologic , lot of tips inside. BUT, BUT . THE PARIS GR is a real WRC Hot hatch , is perfect for drifting, and power slides, powerfull is the best car for the segment in the WORLD in this timeS , I AM SERIOUS.
You don't get a hot hatch to slide that's when they become money pits
I love my I30N but living in the UK with the amount of bad weather we have i think its borderline worth having the car if I lived somewhere colder or wetter you wouldn't be able to have fun in the N nearly as much as the AWD yaris.
You can run down the gears fast with the paddles, under heavy braking you can hold the down paddle and it will drop to lowest gear, rather than multiple presses of the down paddle.
Woah! Easter egg feature. That's dope. Cheers for the info!
And holding the right paddle while shifting manually in D mode instantly goes back to automatic mode.
Erm...The GR Yaris is one of the quickest cars off the line??
UK Top Gear
" it’s not the numbers that make the Yaris fun. Although the off-the-line party trick is bloody amusing - I’d just like to point out that its 0-30mph time of 1.48secs is faster than an Audi TT RS, Ferrari 488 - or 488 Pista - Lambo Urus, Honda NSX, any McLaren 570, any Tesla Model 3 and the A45 S "
How's your car going? Any mods-tyres etc yet!?
Personally, I don't think it's that good OFF the line, unless you want to fu.. the clutch very quickly.
Prefer a little role b4 flooring.
I had the original i30N performance pack and my GR Yaris convenience pack in uk is better for me.
Allows one to drive it enthusiastically virtually daily.
I30N was utter shite in damp, wet, greasy and cold conditions if floored. Both on the original pz4's, yes likely improved a little now, but also on michelin ps4s's I had fitted!
Bunny hopped in the wet, slight tramlining and torque steer at times too.
That hasn't been eliminated. Chasing Cars dct review in the dry confirmed this!
Yes, the exhaust suited the car, actually think mine sounded much better than this example.
Don't miss it though. Just wish they'd upped the fake noises in the GR. The loudness pre max revs should be nearly double the noise, ideally.
It's what you hear, NOT people outside, unless solely trying to impress young teenagers
@@James-RJM Hi James, yeah loving mine. I've fitted the TRD stripe, ceramic coat and had the wheels refinished in dark grey. Pandora alarm.
Pros
Rapid in any weather. It's great in the north west uk where it's greasy after raining on a hot day. Had barely any wheel spin. It's actually really solid inside, I think its annoying when all the reviews say it's cheap it's actually a nice dash and well built. The JBL stereo is decent, rear speakers are terrible though so most of the music is in front of you. Love the heads up display. Engines very flexible, I dont rev it out much because it's so quick. Handling is really sharp when mid corner and it's very flat in the fast corners.
Great daily driver because it covers ground so quick, small and agile, easy to park. Looks ace, really love it with the TRD stripe. Quite like the fake engine sound between 2-5k revs.
Cons
Bit of excessive lean in tight slow corners.
Not really a con but it gets loads of attention and most love it. I'm just waiting for the day someone keys it.
Sick of turning off lane assist and auto stop. Would also prefer it if you could turn on the autoblip as permanent because it's really effective.
Wish it would lock after driving above 5mph like other cars.
Wish I could start the car in track because I use that mode the most. Normal mode does tend to understeer but partly because the steering Is quite slow from the centre, so it's literally not steering enough but also the nose runs a little bit wide in that mode.
Bit thirsty on the fuel as well. Getting about 27.7mpg, I tend to do a lot of short journeys.
Not tried any other tyres yet, but will probably go for Pzeros.
Next jobs:
Repaint the calipers
Poss lowering springs
TRD splitter and side skirts
@@Stringwar Hi mate. Pleased to hear you're having a blast!🙂
Agree with much of your feedback.
No wheelspin so far on Goodyear Eagle f1 asymmetric 5's!!
Like you, I watched the tyrereviews 18's test but ruled out the pzeros on the weak aquaplaning etc. Yes, better than the original pz4's that came on my N apparently, but still too much of a negative.
A5's are very good. Firmer sidewalls to michelin ps4s's, that I was running on the N.
Wish I'd put the A5's on that now.
You should, seriously, consider them mate.
I rev out to max when feasible. I get your slightly too much lean at times comment!
Retested a circuit pack the other day to get a proper back to back, instead of 7+ months gap.
Wasn't disappointed with my convenience pack version. I preferred it.
Partly due to the extra toys etc but also prefer the suspension, 8/10.
Yes, if tracking you'd be better off with the circuit pack car.
Again, no torsens intervention with the circuit pack when keeping esc on, lol....
Closed my eyes as I saw your keying the car comment!
I have parking anxieties always.
You can only do as much as is possible. In my case, if I park up and have a bad vibe, I leave lol.
It's taken me half an hour plus to park, after finding a space instantly 😡
The joys of a new/bespoke car that you love!
And yes, if I caught someone damaging her, I'd likely end up in prison.
I also have an anal, now subconscious starting routine!
Wan.y start Stop off, imt on, track mode, hold down lane assist off!
Boring as fu.. but tolerable 😃
The no auto lock as pulling away is strange, economy on the main screen for longterm is 25.3 lol but the figure at the end of a drive, b4 opening the door, is usually late 20's to early 30's and on a 50 miles drive, without going crazy, I've seen about 34😉
My opinion only of course, but it might be prudent to change the tyres b4 the other minor mods you've mentioned?!
Driving mine on the road only and keeping esc on, I've never had wheelspin or understeer, oversteer, tramlining, bunny hopping etc.
Yes, you can feel the electronics working below you, but it is still effective and great fun👍
@@James-RJM EVO have just done their annual tyre test. The top 4 were:
1) Pirelli P-zero PZ4 (£111)
2) Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport (£101)
3) Bridgestone Potenza Sport (£98)
4) Dunlop SP Maxx RT 2 (£88 on blackcircles)
The GY Eagle F1s were better in the aquaplane test though as you mentioned.
The F1 A5s are £88 so defo a good shout. Be interesting to see the difference when I bin the old Dunlop's.
@@Stringwar Cheers, will take a look online, if available.
I was favouring the f1 supersport from the 19's test in tyrereviews with awd focus RS BUT changed my mind with the 18's review, hence getting the A5's.
Chances are, with awd, rather than fwd golf gti, the supersport will be almost as good in the wet? and slightly firmer sidewalls, sharper and better in the dry! After all, they're 20% track biased.
Very happy with the A5's, actually hoping for an A6 or A7 or supersport 2? soon to be released.
F1's have a better steering feel to the michelin equivalents, firmer sidewalls, cheaper and READILY available!😉
What's with the hate in the comments? Good review.
The Civic Type R WAS the best drivers car for $60k. Shame not more bought it before it left us.
Would have LOVED to have driven the Civic Type R before it was retired for this generation. Sadly, we came into reviewing cars just a little late to review this gen. You bet we'll be giving the next gen the run through when it lands in Aus.
The ugliest car on sale
Type r is good, there's no question about it. However, it's so overstyled to a point that it looks like a ricer car.
While I understand your reasoning for comparing these 2, not sure they should be compared? I think the market for each is quite different?
Just price, HP and Torque is too limiting or narrow? I liked your review of each, they were great reviews - not sure on them being in the same vid and 'comparing'? To me comparing would indicate a buyer is deciding between the 2. I just don't see it with these 2 cars? There may be people in this category, my opinion is not many are.
Both excellent in their categories and look amazing but not sure if they compete like this? Happy to be proven or convinced otherwise!
Yaris, AWD, small 2 door, light, one mode (always on), suit someone wanting a base rally car and no passengers.
i30N, FWD, 5 door, 2 general modes at the flick of a switch. Calm and easy when driving normally - mad when the button is pressed. Tarmack oriented. Little bit porky but the owner does not care for the few milliseconds lost. The fact that it is 5 door with a usable boot and has a tame mode is of much more interest .
If you were comparing on performance only, then the Yaris will win all day long. That power to weight is fantastic on top of AWD. Different league to the i30N.
I don't see the Yaris as a hot hatch as such because of its one (no compromise) dimension. i30N is a compromise car. Even the Golf GTI and Focus ST are compromise cars (and darn good at it).
The other interesting point is the comment on the DCT and getting 'stuck' in a gear. I drove the DCT and there were quite a few times in normal, boring, 'I am just going across town to the shops' mode that the DCT would not go up to the gear I wanted. Was always having to flick the paddle to get it to change up. I assume that the transmission might 'learn' me and start shifting up earlier?
The manual is appealing because I am old school and love manuals, and I get to select the gear in all modes. I know the DCT is MUCH faster and awesome. But feel I would be saying 'I wish I was in the manual' more times than 'I wish I bought the DCT'. Plus the fact that these manuals are a tech that is disappearing. The i30N and Yaris next gens will be hybrids/electrics and 'autos'. Damn good, damn fast, just not the old tech manual. Now is the last chance to get something performance and manual before they go away.
Interesting take, and plenty of valid points. My main point for comparison was on price and power. Seeing as many Australians buy to own, rather than lease. So I'd put price way up there as a reason to compare the two. Since buyers would more than likely see what else they can get for a similar price. Then the 200kW argument kicks in, as spending more on a Golf GTi which has less power, would make a lot less sense than buying an i30N with slightly more power than the GR Yaris (on paper).
The GR Yaris is in it's own segment, but I thought it would be fun to try and choose another hot hatch at the top of its game with one of the best hot hatches you can buy on the market.
I looked at buying either car and I am not the only one. I bought the Yaris, just wish I had some of the tricks the i30N has and the space but I won't swap for the GR.
@@wwcarsales It's certainly a mechanical marvel. Agreed, needs some theatre to showcase that rally heritage on the surface a little more.
closer match than the civic type R people are comparing
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GR is one of the quickest cars off the line. You need to dump the clutch at 5000+ rpm for the best start though.
Sure is. Also a quick way to need a new clutch for most drivers haha.
@@ProductReviewCars it's a tough clutch, 5000rpm should be ok. Maybe not dump it but let it slip slightly and then let it go. Performance drive did sub 5 seconds when revving it high and a respectable 5.5/5.6s when revving to 3000-3500rpm
@@Philbyyyy Wow! Makes the difference. No doubt it's a more than capable AWD monster. Just wish Hyundai did an AWD treatment to the i30N (hopefully next gen gets it as an option).
@@ProductReviewCars If they do, it will likely be considerably heavier again, effectively ANOTHER golf R or a35 amg, albeit with a lesser quality interior and slightly lower price tag.
Refreshed i30N is getting pricey now too though.
I owned the original late 2017 manual i30N performance pack. Great fun in the dry, depressing in wet, damp and cold conditions due to never ending wheelspin/bunny hopping on front axle which was only marginally better once changing to michelin ps4s's.
Had it for 3 years and then got the GR Yaris, uk, with the convenience pack. Had Goodyear Eagle f1 asymmetric 5's put on from collection.
It's far better as a daily blast. It puts the power down without any wheelspin etc and grips phenomenally well. No understeer issues on the A5's keeping esc on.
Didn't get the circuit pack due to wanting the extras in the Convenience, plus the torsens on the circuit only activate when esc is disabled.
Something I didn't do in my 3 test drives nor now in my car.
It's my daily blast for the road only 👍
@@James-RJM Killer to experience both cars. That's right, AWD will send this thing a lot closer to 2 tonne. Maybe an AWD production RM20 could be Hyundai's special sports car as a two seater. Could imagine the GR to be a great swap, as you've already experienced the i30N. Enjoy!
I30n is so beautiful. Clearly the best car for this price
It's a stunner compared to the last gen. Only wins this comparison just slightly. That GR Yaris still is a hell of a lot of fun for the money too.
I got i20 N , best car for the segment fucking wow, I love the i30... I'd like have one... BUT. THE Yaris is a perfect car.... For speed, for drifting, snow, mountains dirt road... Is really powerful 😍 I'd like have one.. but is so expensive in italy
60k + and both with yards and yards of black hard plastic in their cabins. Lord knows! the Original GTI the Volkswagen Golf of the early 70's with its leather clad and tartan textured luxurious sports seats, for what was a small budget hatchback, was a revelation back then!
I wonder if car companies are scraping in the profit margins wherever they can and as time went on, quality interior materials had to go on the chopping block.
Prefer the performance over the interior any day of the week. But yeah, sadly industry offerings means we don't get both like we used to this side of $60,000. Even the new VW GTi suffers with less luxury appointments.
@@ProductReviewCars yes I agree to performance over interior.
Good comparison as I had the several Hyundais on my short list. Since we didn't get the GR Yaris in the states I'll be buying a GR Corolla over the i30N. Just having the AWD ability of the GR for the winter fun is a must. Even if I bought a i30N I would buy a 6MT as I feel more disconnected when driving a DCT. And that exhaust on the i30N is horrible to me, it sounds great until the bangs and pops which I hate on a street car. I'll just upgrade the exhaust on my GR Corolla as there has been a lot of options that make the GR Yaris sound great.
Cannot wait to see what the GR Corolla holds once everything has been announced. It'll be one of the strongest hot hatches of 2022 for sure. The pops and bangs aren't for everyone, certainly got a mix of smiles and angry faces when driving around town in the i30N.
@@ProductReviewCars I like to blend in more than be seen and heard in a way that can draw the attention of the police and car thieves! The GR Corolla should be amazing. I'm already on the waiting list for one when they come out next year. My dealer said that they have been getting information about it from Toyota and they are very excited now too!
@@jimsgaragetoys The i30N can be an absolute cop magnet and have your photo taken for the neighbourhood complaint Facebook page. Could imagine GR Corolla demand in the US should be massive. Fingers crossed dealers don't mark up too harsh.
I thought the GR Corolla was to be fwd only?
@@tracktimevideos5164 Apparently not. According to rumours, it's got the GR-FOUR system. However, could all change when officially released.
4:33 what i love about i30N is this pop bang sound and best thing is its stock💥💥💥 either manual or dct still love it, i dont care if its slower than type R or Yaris but its still fast tho👍
If I had the money I would buy both. One for a daily driver and the other for the weekend and track. But the GR Yaris is a different car to the I30N or even the Type R and Golf R. There isn’t a car like it at its price and what it can do.
Now that'd be an ideal 2 car garage
i30n for me all day, can't wait to pick one up in a couple of months. great video!
Exciting! You'll absolutely enjoy yours. Thanks for watching!
I've got a i30n premium on order as well n can't wait to drive it
That was great fun to watch, thanks for posting 😎😎😎
No worries! Thank you for watching!!!
Why are so many people so upset about this review. At the end of the day, a review is the subjective opinion of the reviewer, and is not gospel.
Don’t know why everyone can’t just get along and respect both cars for being amazing at what they do.
Both cars have cult followings, this one was sure to kick the hornets nest. Appreciate the support! Always a bit of fun picking cars that compete but aren't always obvious to compare.
@@ProductReviewCars always happy to support your content. Uncommon comparisons are something that are rare to find.
(Also an i30N DCT owner myself, so this review was a bit of fresh air, I’d happily own both cars though!)
As someone that’s owned a i30N since November last year I do regret not getting the GR Yaris Ralleye, the inability to get the power down in a fwd car and the axle tramp in return is terrible including the suspension. Noise is great but does not outweighs the awd and suspension the Yaris offers. If the GR Corolla comes out in auto that’s my next upgrade
Great review; agree with everything. It's the very reason I've migrated from a GR to the N. The fact that Toyota even made the Yaris is awesome and it's a special car but the i30 is just more fun more of the time. The track warranty doesn't hurt either ;)
You are about the only one who has I would think...
Sorry for your mistake
Thank you! At the end of the day, it does boil down to daily driving fun, which yeah, the i30N does a little bit better. Would also love to hear what it's like owning either the GR Yaris or the i30N, you can write an owner review on ProductReview.com.au.
@@ProductReviewCars You review it after it has sold out and no one can buy it. Sort of like turning up to the party a week late...
I want both
If I didn't have to choose, I'd do the same.
That yaris sounds like a high performance industrial vacuum cleaner 😂😂😂
For the last time.
The GR Yaris is not a “hot hatch” it’s a one off homologation special, hand built and custom chassis vehicle a “hot hatch” is a economic car that the manufacture just installed go fast parts onto the vehicle the Yaris built from the ground up as a race car.
These two cars can not be compared in ANY SENSE.
The GR Yaris, actually shares many components with the humble Yaris. It is so far removed from what a real WRC Yaris runs, it's just some beefed up Yaris hatch, with a silly homologation badge stuck on it (much like how Toyota stuck a Supra badge on a...BMW Z4). Pure marketing mate, pure marketing. Clearly you're a sucker for this marketing.
@@Mexxx65 could you confirm what parts it shares with a "Yaris" please?
Both cars compare on price and power. If you're buying one, you'll look at what else you can get for the same price. Both are unique, but compare on paper when shopping around.
@@Mexxx65 wrong
@@Mexxx65 „The GR Yaris actually shares many components with the humble Yaris“ -- this statement alone is so embarrassing, it’s not even funny.
Read the name of the video and straight away answered: Yaris! Just came here to see if the, so-called ProductReview Cars was wrong.
Real drivers go manual. The GR is incredible. 💪
I love manual too, but with your kind of thinking means that F1 drivers etc... are not real drivers, come on mate.
@@djdario8309 don’t get your knickers in a twist. F1 slightly off topic 😂
@@JohnnyEscobar1 No is not.
F1 drivers have no choice! It's a competitive sport, run by fat cats.
It's subjective and likely becoming a higher percentage favouring auto!
That's the times we live in, unfortunately.
For me, manual as long as possible PLEASE.......
@@James-RJM I do really understand your point and as you stated - it's all subjective. I just don't like when someone is discriminating others who like automatic, or have no choice to go for stick. I do prefer stick but I do not have choice and will go for automatic , it does not mean I'm not a real driver!
For me.. the Yaris *GR* EVERY-TIME *#NoQuestions*
Fair choice.
@0.15: How can a dual clutch transmission be more fun than a manual transmission?
Some cars are great with a manual, some are even better with a properly developed dual-clutch like this. (Think non-GT 911 manual vs non-GT 911 PDK).
Go drive'em and stop parroting other people's opinions lol.
@0xbadc0ded Your joking right!! The BMW manual transmissions are fantastic.
Your knowledgeable review is for the convenience basic gr car which is still a homologation base car but not the full circuit pack gr car which is whole different ball game. what you actually forgot to say is Chris Harris, Harry’s Garage and Clarkson and many professionals should buy the a Hyundai I 130 lol. Do you know know what homologation or Tommy Mackinen stand for?
I don't see the point in a young reviewer referencing other well known motoring journalists who get sponsored to promote cars. This review is more authentic for us ordinary people who drive cars we own.
Both great cars one will depreciate faster than it goes and and will end up being scrapped, and one will be extremely collectable and expensive in years to come.
@@robertarthur3711 true, but if you are a family man who can only afford one car then the more practical one will always win as far as daily driving fun is concerned.
@@robertarthur3711 GR Yaris is already losing value quickly lol
@@paulklp8262 after 3 years they are still 27k upwards talk about strong residuals stronger than virtually any other new car, but I’m not bothered as I can afford anything. Lol
The exhaust sound of the Hyundai is acoustic sex.
You can't not smile when driving it.
N all day everyday🤟
Turns a good day into a great day.
Man decisions. I back onto Kangaroo Valley with Mt Cambewarra and the very fun Barrengarry looking at me. For mountain twisties that include wet/damp roads which of the two do you think? grrrrr
Wet and damp? AWD. Get the Yaris.
Over 50k for a hatchback hmmm idk I'll stick with civic type R for now
Type R was the same price/more expensive. It was apparently the best FWD car to drive, so I'm still really hopeful to review one soon.
Performance wise the GR kills the i30N. It's literally built for rally motorsport. AWD plus when you engage the clutch and rip the hand brake it disconnects the front drive shafts aka drifting. BUT since dickheads want to sell it for 20k over what its worth overall the i30N will be largely more popular. Not to mention, as a JDM owner and life time fan, these days its so expensive and more of a financial flex to say you got this or that at car meets when it comes to aftermarket parts.
Toyota is doing a great advertising campaign for its brand with the allotment sales throughout the world . Their stringing out the attention the GR Yaris is attracting for the brand by still allowing special orders and this selling method gets free advertising that could last years .
I think they are simply too different, the Yaris GR is a modern homolagation rally car, while the i30N is a modern hot hatch.
Lightweight, small, adjustable permament AWD vs regular sized, FWD, DCT, feature loaded.
Nice one the i30N but the Toyota Yaris GR has a brutality engine, oh yeah i saw it in other vlogs.
I didn’t know sunroom were still in fashion.
I30n is attractive with it's exhaust note, otherwise GR is a really hot hatch, which can have some aftermarket exhaust too
Even still, that 3 cylinder is a little hard to make it sound as good as a loud 4 cylinder or 5 cylinder motor.
Having driven and considered both I ended up buying the GR, as it is just far more special car. Yes the I30n is sublime, but it’s just a very good hot hatch based on a regular i30 model. The Yaris on the other hand is fully bespoke, extremely limited, hand built (probably at a loss for Toyota) and hence gives a lot more sense of occasion compared to pretty much anything in the price range. And speaking of the price, albeit Yaris is not cheap, i believe it will hold its value much better than a Hyundai.
Interesting! Totally can understand grabbing a GR over the i30N. Would love to hear your thoughts on owning the GR Yaris if you'd like to review it on our site (ProductReview.com.au).
I respect your view however the whole idea of a hot hatch is to be downright huge fun but also perfectly suitable for chucking the kids in the back and pootling down the shops.
No doubt the GR is more bespoke and special, but its not a better hot hatch
@@user-vk4vd7vr5t so basically you are saying that the i30N is a better hot hatch cause it’s larger and more practical?
Coming from the Abarth 500 I can say that I never experienced any space issues. Took it on long road trips, moved houses with it, fit occasional passengers on the rear sit and overall saw no problem with it as a daily. With Yaris being significantly larger than the 500, it’s really as much car as one could need for a family of two, at least here in Europe. With additional benefits of lightness and ease of parking that’s much appreciated a lot more often than a bit of extra hauling space.
@@user-vk4vd7vr5t I own a GRY and totally agree with you. As a hot hatch, not just the i30N but hot Audis and Golfs are far better options as a family car and in a straight line or fast A road, the GRY would be destroyed.
That said, where I live I have twisty and bumpy B roads and in this environment the GRY has no competition from its hot hatch rivals and in the wet well I can’t think of anything much that would live with it across those twisty backroads.
In short, two different cars aimed at different markets both exceptional at what they’re designed for.
Sorry but you lost me the moment you said automatic is more fun than manual….
You gotta drive this DCT.
Nothing beats the feeling of manual gear changing. They trying to mimic that which will.obviously take any lazy automatic lover but they'll never get that type of replication
People are always complaining there are no fun cars around anymore, not enough engaging cars, not enough “drivers” cars. Then everyone goes and buys a DCT because “its faster” (a complete utter nonsense reason for buying a car because of a split second gear change.
Cant wait to see the comparisons when the GR corolla comes out
Didn't say the DCT isn't fun. Keen to see how this 3 cylinder feels in a slightly larger and heavier car.
@@ProductReviewCars nope, comment wasnt directed squarely at you, the car community in general is always crying that there is no "fun drivers cars" yet they want to change the nature of what that meant for "convenience" of a non manual
Hyundai i30N DCT..Good..^.~
9:36 says it all. The GR is just fun, and it shows here. I’ve seen other vids where smiles break out when driving this gem. Great vid. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!!
@@ProductReviewCars it’s great. Bright future for you.
Yarris gr short wheel base? Pls do your research
Wish we got these cars in the USA....stupid we don't
Veloster N vs GR Corolla will be interesting. If they sold them in the US, hopefully it would have resulted in even more reason to make more of these types of cars.
Sports car vs hot hatch
GR Yaris = Supermini Hatchback
i30N = Sports car (a proper track day car, not some silly off-road Toyota hatchback...)
@@Mexxx65 no, you are wrong. If a hatchback is fwd, makes entertaining pops and bangs, is 5 doors, yet it’s fun and practical but all steel, same body as regular version maybe engine up in power then it’s a hothatch. Tho if a car is less fun because is too effective to go quickly, impractical, doesn’t bother how it sound, awd, grips like fuck, has carbon roof and aluminium panels, made for rally homologation, body is different than regular version it’s a sports car.
i20 goes wrc, missed opportunity to make i20n a sports car, but of course it’s all about money.
Interesting classification. Almost in its own league of rally homologation specials. Alongside the likes of the Toyota Celica GT-Four and Subaru WRX STi S209. Where the i30N (like you said) is the very definition of a hot hatch.
The GRY is a rally rep and after driving a GRY circuit pack it confirmed in my head after owning numerous hot hatches and that is hot hatches are so much more fun. I find awd rally reps so dull and capable but that's my opinion and each to their own but no the GRY is definitely not a sports car lol
Appartengono a 2 categorie diverse... che paragone avete fatto??
That Yaris is PUG UGLY, I would be embarrassed to have that parked in my Driveway........I don’t care how quick it is.
I have a 2005 Yaris vvti 1.3
130,000 miles
The electric drivers window is broken the foam is pouring out of the seats it stinks of kebabs,and sometimes has fragile tape ardourning the bodywork,and its had an engine management light on and a airbag warning light goes on and off.The interior lights are a bit iffy too. And im alway shelling out money just to keep it on the road.
But do you know what?I wouldn't swap the bastard thing for anything!
Anything except a GR Yaris that is.
There is no way that Toyota won't cover the same Hyundai does for track work. The "track warranty" is a gimmick.
From what I’ve heard. That track warranty has been pretty good.
@@ProductReviewCars of course, but no manufacturer will deny the same conditions for a car advertised as being track capable. To Hyundai's credit I heard they even replaced someone's brakes after they only lasted one track day, but that was at an early N event, so it would have been a bit of news if they refused.
The warranty with Hyundai is very limited - no mods, no timed events, no competitive events etc.
Renault had honoured an engine issue at a track day for an RS Clio. No "track" warranty needed.
I would say the same about any ST or RS Ford, Civic type R, GR model etc.
Is it possible to lessen the exhaust noise on the i30N ?
Yup! There's a valve inside the exhaust. Either head into Normal or Eco mode. Or make it quieter in Custom mode.
its simple really:
awd manual vs auto fwd.....GR yaris all day every day
Can't compare the 2! GR is a rally car
If you had to buy a hot hatch. Have to compare something to it.
Why does the Yaris risk license more LOL? They both 5.2s to 100, identical.
For all the good sounds, and for the most fun in the Yaris, you need to push it. Pushing it takes a little more than what the i30N offers in the form of an exciting exhaust sound. That was more the point.
Is there really a comparison? Its gotta be golf R vs GR yaris
When the Golf GTi already costs $65,000. I can't imagine how much more the Golf R is going to come in at. Hard to compare for those looking to actually buy a GR Yaris vs Golf R. Saying that, I'm very much for comparing the cars if we get our hands on an R next year.
@@ProductReviewCars yeah i think thats kind of the point. On paper i think the golf r and gr yaris (circuit pack version) look pretty similar performance-wise (manual vs manual). You could show what a deal the gr yaris is, despite being a homologation special. 39k gpb for the R vs 33k gbp for the GR circuit pack
@@Weltbummler23 True. The 'Circuit Pack' GR Yaris is called the Rallye here, and is a lot closer in price to the new R. Hopefully we can make a comparison video with the two next year.
the yarris hurts my eyes
Should have reviewed the Rallye version of the Yaris - not the Povo pack. There'd be absolutely no comparison then
He shuda also got a manual tranny N to compare to the manual only GR fgs!
Would absolutely love to review the Rallye (just need to get Toyota to lend us one).
Would have to say, the i30N DCT is the best transmission to get with the new i30N. And the GR Yaris has the best manual transmission south of $60K. More of a mix-up than just manual v manual.
WRC Homologation Special Vs I30N - what a joke....
It is a WRC Homologation Special, but at the end of the day, it's a hot hatch for under $60,000. Not everyone is going to buy it based off that merit alone.
Sounds like a hairdryer 😂
a fast one too!
The i30N is a crap car really, what a young boy that likes to make noise and to be seen. That blue is a bland for a colour to market it. The GR is a small compacted wrc drift corner taking car something better than.but reminds me of the focus rs. Automatic gearboxes always fuck out first before a manual one does no matter how they can market its passed manual yet they still use it in both options triptronic or tapping the gearbox still needs a movement on a person to make it move into gear. Yes the GR soft but with upgrades on exhaust and system updated like stage 1,2,3 that toyota kitty pounces plus the gr is faster than the i30N in a quarter mile hands down. So top speed is nothing yet that small.engine can keep.up with it long ends if it had more rpm. It would be a whole different game
60k???? Oo and I thought Switzerland was expensive..
AUD
i30N is for a boy... GR Yaris is for A Man ... no doubt...
I Concur!
Doubt.
Don’t Insult Porsche by mentioning any Toyota in the same sentence.
Porsche Toyota
Jeez you badge snobs are pathetic.
Porsche make amazing sports cars and I applauded their engineering and performance but to dismiss a GR Yaris because it’s made by Toyota shows a staggering lack of knowledge about why this car was built and what it is capable of.
Try driving one across a twisty undulating back road and tell me if you could achieve the same cross country pace in anything up to and including a well sorted GT3. And that’s in the dry. Try it in the wet and then name anything from any marque that could live with it.
Was extremely disappointed when I drove the GR Yaris. Pretty terrible visibility (even out the front), not great seats or handling, and pretty sub par features. Hyundai and Mazda blow it out of the water imo for a much cheaper price.
El toyota GR con pad circuito y las Yokohama Advan A52 en los circuitos pequeños es imbatible un misil ganas a todos los coches potentes es otra cosa en los circuitos largos es otra cosa y en los tramos de rally es superman , pero el Hyundai me parece un coche increible por el precio y para todo uso y me gusta la comodidad de la caja semi autao ,soy raro con 68 años no soy tan purista y cuando usas una caja de porche te olvidas de las manuales ,si quieres un coche para todo el HYUNDAI y si lo quieres para tramos rally o circuitos cortos o medios TOYOTA GR YARIS , no te equivocas con ninguno , siempre a gusto de cada uno , mi coche de paseo o trabajo es automatico y lo tengo claro.
Imagine spending that much coin on a car just to have one of the fugliest and most common shapes on the roads.
Buy the future classic instead.
So the i30N?
I don't like the predictable fake pops on Hyundai.
N🔥👍
Is that the budget GR Yaris without
the diffs? Why?
It's the normal GR, not the GR Rallye. They have allocated less than 200 here in Aus, so impossible to get your hands on right now. Also, more expensive so would make it harder to compare the two cars.
@@ProductReviewCars ah thats a shame. Most UK cars are the Circuit Pack cars.
Il take the i30n as you can't get a GR Yaris Toyota instructed dealers not take anymore orders for be Yaris
This is sad. Next to i30N this is one of the best HH in my opinion. Only matter of taste. If you have no family then Yaris.
Fortunately in Europe we can still order it. Although I've oredered i30N to be honest.
You're absolutely right. Yaris is harder to order new than a new McLaren. Hopefully production ramps up next year (Toyota is promising return to normal for global production by Dec 2021).
i30 was kia forte gt in us
No, the forte wasnt independent rear suspension, the i30 build Codes were FD, GD and PD, the closest Euro Kua/Hyundai would be the Kia Ceed, which had a similar front x member to the forte and cerato(which also had solid CTBAs, the ceed on the other Hand had an independent multi link rear)
You say the i30n doesn't have a shift indicator, It does.
Oops you're right. Meant it lacks a heads up display with one (which the Yaris has). I love the one in the i30N. Must have skipped my mind then and there.
@@ProductReviewCars Only reason i know is i have a i30n Fastback HAHAHAHAH.
The actual exhaust note of the Hyundai is terrible, no better than the Yaris. The staged backfires are something else, but certainly not for me.
Totally get that. Had some passengers finding it not as fun to listen to. However, it's a little more interesting with the DCT 'farts' and overrun rumbles.
As a (manual) i30n owner... That GR Yaris sounds embarrassing 😂
At a standstill, for sure. Sounds a little better when driving around...but certainly needs an exhaust for a little more sound. Also, would love to hear your thoughts on what it's like owning an i30N, you can write an owner review on our site: ProductReview.com.au.
"The i30 N is a better hot hatch than the GR Yaris" is an oxymoron in that a hot hatch is not supposed to be a car you can drive sedately (ie: not hot) to acheive the advantage. That is the definition of a "cool hatch" as opposed to "hot" which the GR Yaris most definitely is.
You sure can tell which company showers the reviewer with the most perks when they choose the lesser car over the better one. I don't own a GR Yaris nor an i30 by the way.
I mean isn't that why it's a hatchback? Practicality x performance. Wish we got the most perks! Clean slate, no company has any say or influence on how we review cars. GR Yaris is an excellent hot hatch, but in Aus, you're going to get more out of the i30N. That's the verdict.
@@ProductReviewCars You've missed my point. This is a hot hatch review. A hot hatch is something you have to drive fast to get the best out of it. It has abilities that aren't really apparent unless you a) break the speed limit, or b) go to a track. This is the exact reason why you *didn't* award the GR Yaris the win. Which simply leads people like myself to believe that Hyundai threw in a perk or two to 'sway' your opinion.
Hot hatches, particularly of the traditional 3-door variety (see Mark 1 Golf GTi, the one that started it all) aren't about practicality. You can hype that up as the 'winning factor' in this review, but that also means the lesser car wins this comparison on that alone. THe conclusion that makes the most sense is "The Hyundai wins on practicality, but the GR Yaris is the better hot hatch.
Toyota!!! Ye---------s!!! I love Toyota! Hyundai sucks!!
I can't believe people are still reviewing the GR without the diffs. Nobody buys that one.
Nobody can buy the GR with the diffs. Only 200 allocated for the Australian market so far, and cost a whole lot more than the base car.
This is dumb , not even a comparison.
Fwd vs awd , just dumb .
We compared. Thus a comparison was made.
Toyota sound is a joke.
It's not a competition the gr is in a totally different league It's insulting you picked this rubbish car to challenge it.
Sure it's in its own league. However, if you want to buy a sub $60,000, 200kW performance car. You'll be interested to see what else you can get for the money too. But, if you're only after a GR Yaris, you're not going to be interested in anything else.
Haha trash comparison.
If true, what else are you buying for the same price and output? Would be curious.
I've owned only Toyotas for the past 20 years but the N is just more fun to drive, period, and for that reason I'll be buying my first Hyundai.
I can appreciate the engineering and driving dynamics of the GR Yaris. But, yeah. The i30N makes you laugh like a kid every time you get those loud pops going.