Everyone Asked for THESE... 240 Watt Micro Monoblocks
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0:00 Going Manic
2:56 What is on the Desk?
4:43 The tiers of the Fosi V3 Monoblock on Kickstarter
6:30 Zeos Guesses the prices of the V3 Mono
7:19 Unit tour of the V3 Mono (Front)
9:11 Unit tour of the V3 Mono (Back)
10:09 These are the new Hotness
13:50 ELI5 what this setup is
16:08 Who needs these Monoblocks?
18:44 Using Nine of these in my Home Theater
22:12 Testing Done
23:49 Unit Tour of SMSL D-6s
25:55 Finalizing my Thoughts
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Love your reviews as always, keep up the great job!!! I was involved a bit with the original v3 and also their vu meter box was my idea in a group chat with Fosi. They really are a good company that first asks their community for ideas and then implements them as best they can. I've been into hifi over 30 years, nice to see a company in today's era doing this and hope for an even bigger future for Fosi
I am waiting for the Fosi Hypex amplifier should be out later this year
I have too many Fosi components because I like Kickstarter Campaigns
Yes, I am doing this Kickstarter…..resistance is futile
Nice review
I appreciate how you have a practical; application for two connection options...
ok the matching finish on the front display of the SMSL DAC is clean af
Nice. The best I've heard so far are the Sparkos Op Amps in the Geshelli Stuff. I've got the J2S DAC and Archel 3 Pro Amp Stack and it punches way above its price point with the Sparkos Op Amps. AK4499 DAC chip in the J2S btw 👌
With the switchable gain, choose the lower gain if you can because that will reduce the noise in your system. Your source will need to run louder but the overall noise will be lower.
i always enjoy your reviews, i really enjoyed your review of the benchmark abh2, i own the benchmark dac 3b, the benchmark la4 preamp and two abh2's bridged in mono to power my klipsch rf7lll's and it is spectacular to say the least, also coming out of the rca outputs of the la4 preamp into a pair of self powered power sound audio v3600's dual 18's subwoofers, but my main reason i commented here is: how would you compare the sound quality of the fosi v3 monoblocks to the single abh2 in stereo mode you reviewed using just average volume levels? just curious.
Love these monoblocks but I will have to stick to dual ZA3 for now. I've thrown out my TV rack (including TV) and replaced it with a standing desk. My studio DAC only has 4 balanced line-outs, so I downmix 5.1 into quadrophonic and use one pre-out for the sub. Using this setup for music/production first and movies second.
Lol, I'm that one guy! (first time watcher of your channel). Subscribed!!! 😜
Williston audio tested these. Power rating were close.
Thanks for the review. Looks like better load dependence, but other than that looks like the same performance and power output in comparison to the ZA3.
I'm really glad you talked about swapping Op Amps!
Hi Z. Did you try the SMSL DL200 which is likely very similar to the D-6s?
Had an Ifi Nano Dac that i was using for about 5 years but it was cutting out once in awhile and i had to unplug and re-plug to get it to GO. Twas a pain. Ended up rolling the dice on the SMSL D-6s. So pleasantly surprised with it. I was worried about it sounding sterile since I have limited (Ifi only) experience with DAC's. Totally pleased with it and thought about adding one to my desktop set up but currently using Zen Dac2 and am utilizing the single ended out headphone out and would miss the headphone jack. May pony up and look into a separate headphone amp for the desktop. Oh wait....this is a Fosi review.....lol. Have 2 V3's.....love them!
Yet I read it all
@@ZReviews atta boy! :)
Can i use a set of those with a Wiim Pro Plus or i have to include a preamp like P3 in between for volume control?
I watched all of the Day 1 reviews of this product and this review is the best in my opinion. Why? Because this reviewer compared it with the Orchard Audio reference. 💜
I’ve been viewing as many reviews as I can about these Mono’s because I have been saving up for an Anthem 225 V2 to power my Martin Logans F100’s to power through my Onkyo RZ50 for two channel music. (I use for both but more for stereo music)But I wander if I should give these a chance since they are so good and so cheap and can easily handle the 4ohm Load of my ML’s. I guess I’ll check out if they have a good return policy and just buy both and if the difference is very minimal I’ll just keep the Fosi v3 and maybe buy a third for my center channel.
You can have the amps on the stands infront of you, i think they would fit nicely
Would love to see you do a MSH using a 48v rackmount LiFe batt. as PS to see the S/N difference.....
Bit off topic of nice Fosi monoblocks, but when you said that you hate SMSL showing volume just for a while and then switch back to DAC frequency, how to convince Topping to do the same in preamp mode of DX3 Pro+ DAC? It's so convenient while listening to different high res audio. Was nice to talk to you at Axpona!
Published power rating at 1% is at 1kHz. At 20Hz or 20kHz, it would be significantly less.
You always have to put those juvenile stickers on everything! Your language is also juvenile and loooooooow class.....
I guess I can't make too much fun about the tower computer speakers... I'm using some Deftech BP7000SCs for my computer speakers
@zreviews What is that cover that you have on the Flamingo's remote?
13:00 ...Well s**t I'm glad I didn't get Tungsten after all and connect it to my V3 then. I've heard a couple of reviewers take issue with the noise floor of the V3 Monos using Fosi's single Y-split 48V/10A power supply, too. Think I'm going to skip this one and look at a pair of Outlaw Audio 2220 monoblocks. 4x the price, but a better quality amplifier & power supply. I appreciate that Fosi is trying, but they're not quite there yet on quality. Hope they keep at it and keep improving.
Wonder what those amps would do to a set of Micca RB-42's?
How are they compared to ZA3 as monoblocks? or just single ZA3
Funny that it runs this hot for a ClassD amp. I would get 2x %A power supplies. Or get some Meanwell 36V power supplies
I watches a Zeos video for the first time on a 65" screen. I got such motion sickness lol! I have been sailing on teh roughest of seas and felt nothing. Zeos jumping back and forth lol between DAC's was too much...I will stick to my computer monitor lol
Nice Job, Z. I was looking at perhaps doing a monoblock setup for my desktop system. These would have been cool in that capacity, but I decided to go with the Eversolo AMP-F2 instead. For me, that was the right choice. Cleaner and easier than the mono setup and frankly this amp sounds incredible. But these look really good, too. Timing is everything, I guess. Love the floor standers you are using there, bro. Great choice!
This would be a cool for a pair of Klipsh RPM600 II for my desktop solution.
I'd probably have dual powersuplies myself.
I already use the RP600MIIS as near field on my desk by my current amp is am SMSL VMV A1 Class A biased amp. It's quite good to be honest! I ordered a pair and the one PSU is already being corrected to power to amps fine.
@whocares0503 I'm sure it is fine, but I want to go mono blocks with each their own power amps.
The idea is, especially with hard panned music. Is when one amp is doing it's own thing, especially if it is working hard compared to the other. It is not drawing power that would be used for the other amp. Each speaker works completely independently and seamlessly with zero cross talk. And I do listen to a fair amount of hard panned music.
And also just because I want to, regardless of the difference is huge. And with the price of these Fosi amps, it's cheaper than many stereo options.
Thet got plenty of power, i would put them on the smaller 36v power supply to stay cooler.
Can i use one V3 mono for a Subwoofer, and a ZA3 for stereo speakers ? Using 48V10A Power supply for both
Should be fine. Stable down to 2 ohm. Just make sure you're running a low pass filter or crossover.
Can you plug these 2 amps into one speaker to get more power? One amp to the red and one amp to the right? Sorry I'm learning.
Two amps into the same speaker? Some speakers allow that - one amp for the high frequencies, and one for the lows. The speakers that allow that have two sets of binding posts . My floor standers have that option. None of my bookshelf speakers do though
@@IAmNotA.12345 On my bookshelf I plugged one amp into the Left and one amp into the right. I don't have enough of an ear to tell if it's any differance but I hypothesize eash channel having it's own amp would be better somehow?
I wonder how these Fosi monos would sound with my Buchardt S300mkii bookshelf speakers
My D6s makes an electrical humming noise when it's on standby. I'm just gonna get an EL DAC II+ balanced to replace it.
Hrm. when off or just no signal? I usually never turn dacs off since they are such low draw.
Should add them to your JBL garage pa
Yes, it has an XLR connector, but is that input truly/fully balanced?
Yes it is truly balanced.
@@boomerscs9193 Your source for this info? NOT saying it is not true. I just need to be sure before ordereing. I emailed Fosi and they have not replied and scouring the available info doesn't specify.
@@michaelsparrow4798 I think I read that their is an op amp for the unbalanced conversion, and the balanced is direct (no op amp).
@@michaelsparrow4798 It has been stated by multiple reviewers. There is a separate OpAmp chip that converts it from balanced for the RCA input.
@@evanars1 @fosiaudio stated the same in a note to me. Worth double-checking before spending out.
Hey, just a quick comment. In another review, the reviewer stated that using just one 48V power supply with the splitter cable plugged into two of the V3 monoblocks resulted in noticeable noise (humming, buzzing, etc). He indicated that this early in production, that it is recommended that you use two separate power supplies, rather than just one with the splitter cable. Makes sense when you think about it. Perhaps, as the V3 monoblocks go into full scale production and are officially announced for sale at various venues, this issue may be fixed - who knows.
On another matter - regarding the Op Amps - I originally purchased 6 of these Oracell versions because a year ago, because I was attracted to the very low price of these (running $19.95 to $15.95 depending on where you buy them). They are Chinese-made of course, and are listed as being discrete. I cannot even begin to tell you how disappointed I was in these - especially after using the wonderful discrete versions from Sparkos Labs and Burson. They made music sound dull, and in one case - using them in the older Aiyima A07 - were both dull and "steely" sounding. I finally had to just put them aside, gathering dust, and reinserted my Sparkos Labs versions back into those Class D amps (A07, A07 Max, V3, and ZA3) that I was trying the Oracell's in. Bummer....but as they say, you get what you pay for.
I didn't get any noise with my limited testing on one power brick. I am sure I will be doing way more stuff with these in the future. We had very different experiences with the Op amps it seems.
GET SPARKOS OPAMPS DAMNIT!!!
Hey, I've btr5 and ifi gryphon and they both sound the same gryphon is louder. What is btr5 sound upgrade?
The Gryphon has quite a bit more adjustability. Plus all the fun ifi features. BTR 5 is more for size and portability.
@@ZReviews nah man, they sound the same, I want to sound quality upgrade from btr5!
@@untitledwebm maybe go with a dongle or do you want to keep it bluetooth?
@ZReviews yeah Bluetooth, even with extra buttons gryphon and btr5 sound the same. I'm looking for 2to3x sound improvement.
There’s a YT vid by Audio Masterclass that talks about the op amps inside
Fossi paid probably a fortune to the influencers that every CZcamsr jumps on this cheap amp is not understandable 😂😂😂
It's more reasonable if you look at the asr measurements
@@jonasamon9091 I never look at measurements I listen to my ears 👍
Caveat Emptor. Erin from Erin's Audio Corner has one of the new Fosi V3 mono crashed and burned.
I have an issue with one right now. Need to see if its the amp or the Opamps I put inside.
@@ZReviews Any update on this? Did you get it working again?
Fosi V3 Mono or Crow XLS?
"Better than Dad's Krell" :) - Made me smile #Dad (Not all Dad's can afford Krell, so now we can get down with the Kids instead)
Boy, Fosi must be pushing all you reviewers to do these as quick as possible! Question, others say sharing the power supply causes strange noises, have you noticed that? Your guesses price wise was a bit low.
Not on the setup I was using, maybe on more sensitive speakers?
It's been fixed, apparently all the units sold now don't have the noise issue
@@ZReviews I think I read that the noise appears if you turn one off. Running one, with two connected to one 10amp power supply, causes noise.
If you are using the xlr input you need to install the third OP amp.
Genuine question, what does this mean, are you saying upgrade the third OP amp or that it doesn’t have the third?
@@ricochet243 The XLR input have a OP amp .if you use that input upgrade that one too. so you need 3 Op amps.if use only the RCA 2 its ok.
@@robalex1818 thank you. Can I ask your opinion on power supplies. Would you go for one 48/10A or two 48/5A?
What’s the difference? Is it sound quality or watts power from the amp?
@@ricochet243 The idea of one 48/10A is nice but i read today that it has noise issues. Soo goes for 2 of 5A
I mean ive done it on the ZA3 and it didn't have that much of an effect, so I went back to the OG
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All they need is a high pass crossover, and sub out.
Za3 for that, well the sub out at least
I use mine with fmods 70hz hipass split to sub plate 500watt 70hz down to 20hz.
Very flexible and amps are cool.
❤your reviews, I'm designer retired tech, waiting for fosi gan fet amps
To hit the cheap China boards.
@@larrygaines7462 but power ratings ? Speaker use or headphones I missed.
Or use a high level input subwoofer???
So buy 4 of these and use them for a bi-amp set up??
Tweeters use very little power in general (compared with woofers). Gains of bi-amping would probably be negligible. Better approach would be to offload the lower frequencies to a sub, which reduces the burden on both the woofers and the amp driving them.
Nope
My only issue with Fossi is you are beta testing these for them. They release units, you find an issue and they release a new version fixing that issue. If know this, you know to wait until v2 or v3 comes out. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who get the early releases or buy the discounted v1 models without knowing this.
Dude, cut back on your caffeine. Lol. Good vid.
I only drink like. 3 cups a month.
za3 for the noobs, mono for those that got a preamp or dac with volume knob.
You need to record your videos with a Insta360 so angle doesn’t matter a bit.
They don't focus within like 10 feet.
I have Edifier R2850DB and they sound bad with analog from a DAC, but great with the DAC's digital optical output. I wonder if there is an ADC in the Edifier, converting the analog signal back to digital before the DSP converts to analog a 2nd time??
Yeah you are adding an extra step. Most DSP speakers with Analog inputs should be avoided using.
@@ZReviews So I wasn't just hearing things, and my DAC's analog is not simply a bad quality itself. Glad to confirm this. Thanks man.
Connect your behringer class d the old one, just for shits
were the hell is the TOPPING DX9
On the floor, doing other things.
Crosseur
These will be great for people to get into mono.
You have to say what the last 5 so-called reviewers.
Shopping Channel?
QVC with Z?
@@ZReviews You might want to approach QVC and go mainstream! Imagine that!
Ballsy re view! That's why we watch!
Kick starter "about" $320.00 dual monos with dual 48V 10A power supplies.
200 plausible with Fosi’s track record of amazing prices
@@SlotHits777no it’s $320 or about due to HK$ conversion
Someone please take a pair of these and an smsl D300 to the next wanky audio show and put all their audio jewellery to shame.
Probably won't let you in the room.
What is the harmonic distortion from 20hz-20khz every amp like this they only put at 1khz which is a bs rating class ab will give you a true rating
def get two power supplies, one for each amp and thank me later
Someone has stock in Big Power
@@ZReviews resolves a distortion issue when using 1 power supply with the share power cable
@@ZReviews he has audio on what this issue sounds like, fixed by using separate power czcams.com/video/PCFy5HXB6Qg/video.html
It's going to be fixed...@@SlotHits777
5 or 10 amp if 2? Thanks
Put fans on the trigger 12v
My monoblocks board run cool with 8ohm load.
I heard we are supposed to shame Zeos.
Shame!!
About 1850.00 too much!
The Chinese power amps need to specify RMS power ratings instead of peak power!
13:13 I think you need to start yelling in every video that plugging headphones directly into speaker amps is no longer something you support, it's been your go-to advice for hard-to-drive headphones for quite some time
Well AB and Class A amps are still fine. Just the Class D stuff is a bit sketch. My LA90d loves pushing everything even IEMs
these should work great with a set of headphones...
We've already debunked class D unless they're under 16 ohms
@@ZReviews all you have to do is put a 5ohm resistor across the output terminals... this version has the built in filters also..... should be a good match for the Tungsten now....
A rush on 4/20 ? ....um OK, Bring Snacks.
25 mins at barely a word on actual sound quality... typical Zeos review.... entertaining but not overly informative.
I mean here is the thing. An amp can be warm or harsh or neutral. This is neutral. Then it can be weak or strong. This is strong. If you need something more than that you are going to spend way more OR wait for some magic that I can't categorize into words. The "thing" that is hard to place. The old Loxjie A30 had it. The Orchard Audio stuff has it. Not many others reach those sort of "wow" heights so I usually tell people to just get a competent amp that works in their scenario, which this amp very much is. I can't wax lyrical about ever device's sound signature. Sometimes it is just purely Functionality that is the focus.
I don't think anyone asked for those, they don't seem to do much of anything a ton of other products can do around the same price or cheaper. Of course they are awesome though, because they were free and it sounds like there was an obligation to put up a review. I barely followed any of it by the way, it was all over the place.
I would have loved to spend more time with them but they asked for a date, but people definitely did ask for them. As soon as the V3 came out. "can you monoblock it?" would be great if you could, etc etc
Can you review things that aren't paying you? I miss candid Zeos, not punch pulling Zeos.
I mean I try to make money on every review so don't single out this one. I just didn't have much bad to say about them. They are relatively simple and well priced. When something comes along that stinks. You will know it.
Everyone Asked for Fosi V3? Not ZA3?
Really?
It is what it is 🤷
When the V3 came out everyone wanted it to go mono. The ZA3 CAN go mono but this is less stuff, no volume, no 2nd channel to disable. The PURE monoblock life.
@@ZReviews Ok I understand. I find the volume of the ZA3 extremely loud (I reduce the volume with the insoul XDUOO MT-602 tube) and the balance of the base is great. But the sound of these little D-amplifers are really amazing nowadays. PS: I also prefer Emotiva BasX MR1 11.2 for my home theater. A lot of value for the money
cantt believe this, more than 10 mins of the video is not even ralated to the amp... lol
Believe it
hope you can start discussing things direct to the point, after all you listeners are not new to this hobby... just a suggestion... focus on the purpose of the video... just my 2 cents
youve clearly never watched zeos before
@@sidraorane7684 i do and this confirms it... showing that he change for the mono vs the za3 but never compared it? come on... others were good and focused on the topic... the sabaj mono review was even better and more focused than this... even if he took time and moved to his home theater area...
I didn't really have enough time for my brain to sort out what I needed to say. Usually it takes a week but I only have the amplifiers for 2 days before this review had to go live. So I'm a bit all over the place
@ZReviews don't listen to this bozo, do your own shit. If they don't like it fuck 'em
And you must be new here...or here for the wrong reviewer after knowing what you got here
Is it so difficult these days to produce a CZcams review video without throwing in needless swearing? Obviously, it is! This just highlights your lack of class. I dropped in here to see what you thought of the V3 mono's as I have a pair on order. Seems like I've wasted my time. I'm sure I'm probably in the minority for your viewership demographic, so take my feedback for what it's worth.
Frantic delivery. Not much useful information. Foul language throughout. Did not finish watching.
The single bare unit is USD 750 with no power supply............................................. with power supply 980USD
I feel your mistaken..
thats for hong kong $
That's in Venezuelan dollars
I love your videos, but this one you are totally confusing me. 🫤
Strange. I was actually trying to be more clear about who would get this and why. All the power and CHEAP. But you need to be OK with controlling the source.