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How Good is the Alto TS412 2500-WATT 12-INCH 2-Way Powered Speaker
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- Where TS3 exceeded expectations, TS4 redefined them completely.
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Chapters
00:00 Review of the Alto TS412
00:36 Why the TS412
01:35 Power!
02:24 The Box & amp Plate
03:10 Making Connections
05:07 Yes! Bluetooth
06:57 Fly Points?
08:24 The APP
11:31 Recap & Bonus info!
12:46 Sound Test
15:04 Thanks for Watching
Building on the legacy of our best-selling TrueSonic speakers, the TS4 Series delivers increased power, clearer sound, and advanced Bluetooth functions including streaming, speaker linking, and App control.
Compact, lightweight, and designed for reliability, the new TS4 Series makes it simple to get great live sound at every event.
True Sonic Power
Whether you need a powerful vocal PA or club-shaking bass performance for a DJ set, TS4 speakers deliver loud, clear, room-filling sound for any application.
With a 12-inch woofer and a 1.4-inch compression driver, TS412 delivers 2500W of class-leading power and clarity in equal measure.
FREE Alto App for remote configuration and control
Available free for both Android and iOS, the Alto App gives hands-on remote control over Bluetooth levels, Speaker Use Modes, Custom EQ, and sub-size selection. Further, True Wireless Stereo linking can be configured remotely via the app to save time during setup. Download for Android Download for iOS
Built-In 3-channel mixer
Every TS4 features an integrated 3-channel mixer, with two Mic/Line input channels and a dedicated Bluetooth channel. The Mic/Line channels feature XLR/TRS combo jacks and can be used with microphones, instruments, and line-level signals without the need for additional hardware or adjustment. Just plug straight into the rear panel and you’re up and running.
Simple Bluetooth Streaming & Speaker Linking
The ideal high-powered streaming solution, TS4’s built-in Bluetooth connectivity makes it easy to pair your laptop, phone, or tablet and get the music pumping in no time at all.
With the True Wireless Stereo function, you can stream Bluetooth audio to two TS4 speakers in perfect stereo without the need for any cables.
DSP Modes for the best sound in every application
TS4’s three preset “Speaker Use” modes let you optimize the speaker for any application, so you’ll get great sound every time at the touch of a button. For even more control over your sound, you can configure a Custom EQ within the Alto App and remote adjust the settings from any listening point in the venue. You can even save your favorite Custom EQ setting directly to the TS4 for easy recall whenever you need it.
Versatile and Reliable
From the high-quality drivers to the fanless class D amplifiers, every aspect of the TS4 Series has been designed for superb reliability, whether used for mobile gigs and performances or fixed installation.
Each speaker features a lightweight, sleek, black box design that can be used as the application demands - freestanding, as a wedge monitor, pole-mounted, or suspended via the integrated suspension points.
2500-WATT 12-INCH 2-WAY POWERED LOUDSPEAKER WITH BLUETOOTH®, DSP & APP CONTROL
2500 W peak (1600 LF + 900 HF) 1250 W continuous RMS (800 LF + 450 HF)
FREE Alto App (iOS/Android) for remote configuration and control
Bluetooth® audio streaming directly from the device
On-board DSP with 4 Speaker Use modes (inc. Custom EQ via App)
True Wireless Stereo speaker linking via Bluetooth®
Integrated 3-channel mixer with dual XLR ¼-inch combo inputs, mic/line switches, and independent level controls
XLR Mix output, Speaker Use, and Sub Size Controls
12” driver, 2.5” (63 mm) high-temperature voice coil
1” exit ceramic driver with 1.4” (35 mm) coil
Lightweight enclosure for easy transport set up and installation
Versatile design - pole-mountable, wedge monitor or flown application with integral M10 suspension points
Powerful and efficient class D amplifiers with fanless cooling design to run cleaner, quieter, and with greater long-term reliability
Designed and tuned in the USA
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Press and hold the BT pair and TWS link buttons until you hear “voice off.” To turn it on again, do the same thing until you hear “voice on.”
🌴That's Great. tried it and it worked 👍you are right (HOLD👈👉 BOTH 😁 BUTTONS for 3 sec) 🌴" Voice OFF"
I'm going in blind. Didn't got to a store to listen to them. Purchased 2 just now, and I hope I can brag about ALTO to other musicians!
I just bought the ALTO Busker. The EQ is amazing. Alto is so versatile. It gets snubbed by people with no understanding of sound engineering
Im so glad i just picked this up on the used market for less than the ts408 sells for.
For the price these are incredible. I’ve never owned other brands but have heard them and these stand up very well to much more expensive speakers
Great video! Thanks!
I would be interested in a comparison video of sound curve, clearity, cleanness, separation presence and other worth to mention differences between the TS410, TS412 and TS415 speakers with a sound test comparison.
Thanks!
@expertisland Awesome Video. Would you take these over Ev ZLX 12P ? My church just bought the Ev's and wants to use as floor monitors.
Bet I'm planning on getting that speaker this upcoming Thursday, One of my DJ controllers on Db zero master volume and once I have the speaker up max volume I believe it won't clip, so yes I am definitely getting that speaker this week 💯💯💯💯
These speakers are great. Did u end getting them? I have the 15’s and the 12” sub. All rated at 2500 watts so I’m knocking around 3700 watts RMS easily.
If you hold Bluetooth pair and tws button together wait until you hear voice prompts off you can get rid of that loud annoying connection prompts
🌴That's Great. tried it and it worked 👍you are right (HOLD👈👉 BOTH 😁 BUTTONS for 3 sec) 🌴" Voice OFF"
I got a pair of 415 for the front and a oair of 412 for monitors and so far they are great 👍🏼 i do hope they do an update to get the Bluetooth to work with xlr out, would be big 🙏🏼
There is no way to fix the problem after they sold the speaker. it can only happen if the make a change at the factory with the programing the preamp and adjusting the wiring on the board so it will all work. for any one like me and you we have to look at adding an alto total Bluetooth adapter to make it work with a subwoofer.
RMS is 800LF and 450HF😊 I own the 15’s and it’s the same for both.
Own a pair of these and really enjoy them. Im looking for a subwoofer. Im not a pro just need some thump. Would one 12" sub be good? I dont want to carry an 18. Too heavy
Awesome videos I'm a big fan thanks!
Great in-depth information.
Best explanation
Thank you.
Deciding between 12 and 15.. curious of a difference in clarity for vocals and acoustic instruments. Also wondering if either might double as a decent frfr amp cab.
Thanks for another great video!
TY Great video! I wish you would do a TS408 video - and maybe explain your thoughts on the difference between the models... How big a venue would the 08 be able to do fx...
EV ZLX have a new updated G2 out, I just purchased the 12" G2 and great but the spl of this alto is higher for less price. Dam!
Do you think you will do a side by side comparison as the Zlx has been probably the biggest seller worldwide.
Thanks for your review.
It will be upto Electro-Voice to set us up with a Sample this time, but I looked at the product and specs
, The true sound quality from the front end is the same ( if it not broken don't fix it) the Back half and has some small box Changes Plus the new SMART CONTROL AND CONNECTIVITY App along with phantom power and Hi-Z. over all Power output and dB look the Same. Over all Still a Great speak for smaller Gig, Stage Monitors, Rehearsal Spaces.
@@expertislandThanks a million for your reply. From a sound quality perspective the new G2 sounds immaculate from my perspective anyway.
It will cost me alot more to have 2 x tops +2 x bins going down the EV path so Alto is certainly a strong contender both on power output and cost saving from a what I can see. I will continue on the EV path for now. Thank you
If I want to run them as parrelel monitors would I use the mix out port to run to the second speaker?
how to create that bass chest feeling?
Can these BT pair with the Alto Busker?
For large house parties 2x Alto ts412 vs Column speaker like Maui G3 28. Do we get enough bass woth 412's?
Can we just connect Bluetooth and without and xlr from.mixer will it play straight from fone to the speakers
Great review!! Thanks!! RE: running a sub with it: why couldn't you run your signal to the sub first, they out of the sub to the speaker? Wouldn't that work? That's what I do at home with the small system I have now, but looking at these to upgrade....
🌴You always have options when connecting your SUBs to you main, Top- Down or Bottom-Up both Can work. Test your setup and pick the Best for You.👍
I run mains into subs first, then high pass out to mains.
i have got a TS312 and have just recently bought a TS412 i use a mixer with them but the TS412 line level output function seems very low and have to use the mic level, is this normal as the TS312 volume on unity seems far superior compared to the TS412 line level even on max.
same for mi with a TS415. compared with a frfr 108, this one sounds lauder than de 415. on the same lever. do you know if using the mic level is dangerous in any way?
@@user-ns4pt6jg3i not sure but the TS312 that I have says you can go up to 2 o clock with the volume dial. I would say like all speakers look out for the signal limit light on the back and if you use mic level don’t push it too hard as like it says it’s a mic level for mics
I do find the TS412 loud enough when I use a laptop through my mixer to the speaker on line level
Hi, Which is speaker should i go for between, ALto TS412, EV ZLX 12P and Mackie Thrash 12"?
🌴Can't talk for the Mackie Thrash, But just to pick one out of the air is hard without context so as-is I would say the TS412😁
Alto ts4 or mackie V classic 12?
They give the rms specs on every site I lve seen and the spl
I use this speaker as part of my system for outdoor events. Great speaker. Only downfall is they don't fit on the popular Rockville speaker totems. The hole on the bottom is to shallow and don't seat right.
Tighten the screw on the speaker it will straighten up. it does not have to sit on the plate, that would be a bonus.
@@expertisland That would be nice. Too bad Alto doesn't make some kind of adapter since those Rockville totems are commonly used. But, nobody should notice except me and probably other DJ's. Haha.
I have the ts412’s & did wonder if the pole ‘cup’ was a bit shallow… not owned other speaker to compare though. Feels like it could have been like 1/2-1inch deeper and it’d feel more secure.
Hi all
I have a twin DJ record deck with left and right speaker outputs.
The record deck has a built in amp which I believe is 125watts per channel
The question is would I be able to plug the left and right speaker output channels from the record decks into two active speakers like the ts412 altos for more wattage or is it a no go
Thanks
Deano
Dumb question: Is it possible to link two speakers by running an XLR cable to one and using a wireless connection for the other?
Hey man how are you l just watched this video ,l have a question, between this alto 12 or 15" which one is best for outdoor events
Un par de Ts412, 2,500w y otro par de Ts18 subwoofers 2,500w... Que capacidad de salones cubre?
Hello iam looking at getting either the 12inch or 15inch with the Alto 15inch Sub. Which Speakers would be better to match the sub?
With my EV's, I go from mixer/controller to subs then subs to tops. Should I do the same with Alto subs and tops or does it work better to mixer to tops then tops to subs?
How would you wire one speaker to a dj controller, would you put the left and right in that one speaker or just on jack? Thanks for video
Or just one jack I meant
I have an Alto 12 Powered no Bluetooth. Can you hook the TS412 to another powered speaker
between turbosound and alto speaker..which is better with same watt?
Hi 👋Thanks for uploading all these great audio reviews.
I'm looking at the TS308/TS312S vs TS408/TS12S unfortunately I can't find anywhere that has both setup for testing. I read a comment that the series 3 is softer on the highs which I prefer as the speakers are for home use. Sound quality is more important than DB or DSP/Bluetooth. I might consider the TX range if the sound quality is the same.
As reference I previously owned the QSC K10 (original) with KSUB. These were also used in a home studio at low - medium volume. Great sound at close range.
If anyone can help drop me a comment. TIA! 🙂
you would have to call some guitar centers where you live to see if the have any trade in TS3 speakers so you can hear them, but for me the sound the same with out having them side buy side that said everything that made me really like the TS3 I can hear in the TS4. for Home or a rehearsal space have a look at the LD systems Icoa12 or line array like the MLS1000. SUPER Fan of both of them.
Update: After not being able to find a place locally who had the speakers for testing I went with two JBL IRX108BT speakers! They sound really good and are great for home use. 🙂
How does it compare to the Mackie thump xt 1400w
I have a pair of the ts415 and I can say that mine altos clip
I have audio mixer , I set up my controller main outs to the audio mixer and from audio mixer channel 1/2 to the left and right speakers and they clips can you help me out with that
Most likely, the speaker is 884 Watts RMS, the 2500 is the peak to peak rating, which is what you would call max. After that, the 1250 is the peak rating, which is half the sign wave and after doing the math. It comes out to 884 Watts R.M.S
I’m thinking of getting TS410 to use as FOH speaker what would you suggest.
How wld u compare this to a ZLX12P as a monitor?
Hi Robin hiw do they Copake to the Makie Thump series 12" model? Sound quality and output wise?
Thanks.
Mackie thump has a great sound on to its own you like or you don't. this is something only a person who works with speaker will think about. the average Consumer or audience member will never think twice about. Have a look at the Mackie SRM450v3
can anyone tell the difference of TS408 and TS412 please?
I think a ltiblox will work for subwoofer but you have to put on mic instead of line ? Has anyone tried this?
Please do a review of HK Audio speakers.
Would be nice to see some Alto vs Harbinger videos
Which is better, Altos, or the Harbinger?
I am using an alto ts410 with an alto ts310. I can't get the Bluetooth function to turn off on the ts410. I had it off initially, then when I turned the speaker off when I turned it back on, the Bluetooth was on again. When I used the ts410 and ts310 together, the ts310 is much louder than the ts410, even if the volume knobs are the same position. Please help, lol.
same for mi with a TS415. compared with a frfr 108, this one sounds lauder than de 415. on the same lever. do you know if using the mic level is dangerous in any way?
Thanks
Thank you.
Hi just wondering how close in volume and clarity you think these would be to my QSC K12.2 speakers. I was thinking about getting a set of speakers to use to fill extra sound at outdoor events.
Alto is a good speaker but for me the QSC is better. QSC is like a Lexus and Alto is a Toyota.
@@djaga4404haha. There’s more Toyota on the road than Lexus 😂😂😂
@@DjSmoothNYright
As a DJ who's had all of them.. (QSC, Yamaha dsr's, Altos, JBL PRX & SRX) I can tell you that for the most part there isn't a discernible difference in a lot of environments. If it's about volume then get 3ways. If you want warmth, get wooden cabinet speakers.
If you're an audio snob then you'd notice things but the avg person won't distinguish one from the other mostly. DSP has been the ultimate equalizer. Alto lacks in on board DSP screen/options the other top brands offer. Hence the price difference.
Is there a diffefent on this ts425 and the prvious ts315 woofer speaker? Or is it the same and all different is the amp controls, Bluetooth
Completely different redcatt drivers and frequency response
Questions pls, I have a pair of 12s power loud speakers each 4 ohms. The amp is 2000 peak. Now can i replace those speakers with 8 ohms each .and by bringing those speakers trough out and in to the other one , does that causes less ,more or no chances because they r individuals power speakers.
I will leave custom driver matching up to you. it is hard to say if it will sound better.
why do you need a signal volume knob and also a master volume knob, what is the reason for this? why not just 1 volume knob? Greetings
it lets you set the mix of the 3 channels and then turn up or down the mix easily with 1 knob.
Can we plug the Alto TS415 2500-WATT loudspeaker into the Alto TS12S subwoofer?
Yes, you can, but remember the Ts415 will overpower the subwoofer at higher volume levels.
have you gotten the TS12S subs? i ordered mine 3 weeks ago still havent arrived
I ordered two of the TS12S subs
AWESOME and informative sound quality demo! I like the beats in your 15" demo better, but these all show SQ off too. THIS is how you review and DEMO gear! oh I hate all talk and no demo reviews!
consider yourself *SUBBED!!!* (pun intended)
Hi sir, I just ordered two of the ts408’s and an alto 8ch mixer. Will I use a pair of trs to xlr cable to connect the mixer to speakers? Also the mixer has Bluetooth and tv has Bluetooth so that should work to set up a karaoke set up? I’m new to this stuff! Thank you!!
You can use both TRS to TRS, and/or TRS to XLR Male.
@@expertisland thank you!
what is the name of the last song ? :)
Great video. I want to know if this speaker is ok to just listen to music off my phone in a converted bedroom to my music room, den and will it still produce good base without having to connect it to a subwoofer. Thanks !,,
Yes, absolutely. Full EQ app and Bluetooth.
@@expertislandonce again thanks for the great videos and the quick helpful reply to my question. I thought I’d just let you know I’ve purchased the 15inch version of this speaker and I’m very pleased and impressed with this speaker . Thanks again and thanks for your very helpful and great videos. Regards Lee.
no vents or fans to keep it cool>>>???
which is the better choice between the alto TS412 and the Harbinger V3412 3000 series. For all use Dj, bluetooth, and just general use
WOW?😲 I Am filming a video about that today Sound tests running right Now, Should be up soon. You think it would be easy but Sound and options make it harder to pick one.
Any update on the video comparing these 2?
А без микшера можно использовать то? Просто через смартфон?
Yes you can use it with just your phone for music.
@@johnm7882 good.
Hi please do a review on the EON 715, saludos im in chihuahua Mexico
I would Love to but, it is not in the Budget right Now it would be up to JBL to send over sample for test, reviewing and making how-to videos.
Eon 715 had great features its loud but lacked low end imo I sent it back and got a ts415
It sucks when connecting subwoofer to it you just have to act like the bluetooth doesn't exist and use a separate audio mixer...
The eq can’t be adjusted in real time , you will be guessing at frequencies, then uploading . Useless as far as sweeping for problem frequencies.
Is it really reliable compared to Jbl and other premium brands? Heard Alto’s reliability is far poor
I've had my Alto speakers for about 4 years now. And I can say they are extremely reliable.
These look to be the same as the Alesis drum amp...
another site has the RMS of the TS18s at only 625watts...
the TS318s was 1000w RMS and 2000w peak. The TS218s was 625w RMS 1250w Peak.
Bluetooth to ts412 and with XLR cable to ts312 is it possible?
I already have some ts312 and want to be able to use them as well. Nice channel, thanks.
As far as I understood at about 12:00 is that the BT signal on the TS4 is not being routed to the output XLR.
So that would be a "no".
@@Chris-yy7qcThanks.
Chris is right You can buy a Bluetooth total or Trade in your TS312 for 2 V3412 at Guitar Center 😜
@@expertisland It's a long way from Sweden..
Funny, So where would some go in Sweden for Audio Gear?
OK Robin. It's been 3+ years.and 8 phone calls. Still no video on how to program the. JBL srx815p...HELP!
You didnt figure this out yourself in 3+ years?
No Mam! I didn't!
@@DJDEEDetroit I don't think he has ever sold JBL Srx series. So he won't be familiar with them. Best to go where you bought them and ask them?
hello sir, have you gotten in the TS12S subs yet? I ordered mine on january 17th and still not yet arrived, was wondering if its supply issue or its just the place i ordered from.. Thanks!
Very HOT Sellers, very popular all around the world, and from one Factory. Good for them, Bad for Me and You when out of Stock.
They do advertise RMS? the plate amp anyway, the drivers are redcatts and oddly 2ohm for the mid/woofer and 4ohm for the compression driver crossed at 2khz. The actual drivers are rated at 400w and 30w.
Right on the RMS, it is on the product page 2500 W peak (1600 LF + 900 HF) 1250 W continuous RMS (800 LF + 450 HF), and I was thinking of the Subwoofers, not the tops when I said that. *but where did you get the info on the drivers?*
@@expertisland I have opened them up , done frequency sweeps, played with the dsp and find out that frequencies they boost, take spl readings ( I do this with all my kit and need to start filming it ).
if they are 400w and 30 watt rated, how can they pump out 800 lf and 450 hf watt RMS? where is the trick?
@@thereflexmobiledisco6700 For sure film it show all your work .
@@FunkyDrumm3r so this is how you drive speakers ( more headroom from the amplifier that's driving the speakers). Alto tend to throw more than needed to the high frequency drivers probably just so they can state a higher wattage. More expensive speakers like FBT, RCF ect do the same but use higher quality drivers from companies like B&C with really high sensitivity so the volume gets really loud using less power. For instance I think the FBT promax high frequency compression driver uses a B&C rated at 60w RMS at 101db, at 8ohm with 200w RMS coming from the amplifier. The Altos now use redcatt speaker drivers which are pretty decent spec wise for a speaker at this price point.
QSC k12.2 or alto TS412 which is best ?
altos more power..because the price alto..thats a biiig diference on price
I WANT TO USE A PAIR OF THESE FOR MY BACKYARD BUT WANT IT CONNECTED TO MY TV. IS THAT POSSIBLE ?
You can use a mixer/audio interface or if your TV has Bluetooth, buy a wireless audio transmitter and connect to one speaker and through output to the other.
I do it all the time. Just make sure on your TV you go to your volume setting and chose speaker out.
Video is blank from 16:00 till the end. No audio no video
Thank you for letting me know fixed that Now.
Sir, can i play bass guitar direct on any PA Active power speaker without mixer, Di,???
Yes, you can
You May or may not need a di box but you can play a bass guitar on the TS412
@@jthms_snapshots thankq
@@expertisland sir Ts412 for me is costly, im thinking Tx308 350 watts if its ok for direct plug n play bass guitar... Jus for Band jaming purpose. Sir pliz tel me TX308 8inch can give a good bass sound in band jamming ???
@@jthms_snapshots thankyou
They are light, they are affordable, They look great the handles are in the right place, and they sound good. However they clip way too early
Your Right Managing Clipping is always a job when pushing this speaker dynamically over 90dBs There are lots of speakers Under $600.00 that have this issue alto is far from alone. I fix it with Subwoofer or More Speakers if needed.
@expertisland By even with subwoofer they were still clipping which is why I returned them the next day. Really sucked because I had high hopes for them. As you said that, you have to get more speakers. By that point you might as well just get yourself a good pair of speakers
I didn't find this at all?
1250 RMS...nah i guess 400 RMS. 1250 will be the program
Alto does have RMS on their website now: 800LF+450HF=1250
ALTO DESTROYS QSC.
Yeah QSC is so overpriced. Turbosound IQ also blows away QSC, too😊