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I agree with Vince. I didn't buy into Owens at first when he was beating everyone but now that he is more of a common man with an anger problem, this fits him better.
@@bladey_0_10 Lets face it, winning the fake title can make you larger than life and into a pop culture mega star. Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Sting, Austin, Rock, Goldberg, Batista and Cena are perfect examples
This guy Russo is 1000% right what's he's saying here is physical stature size like WWF Hulk hogan, Ultimate warrior, King Kong bundy ,The Warlord ,Sycho Sid ,Undertaker ect.
The irony of me clicking on this and watching Russo say Zayn can't draw right after seeing the crowd pop like crazy for Zayn at Wrestlemania 40 is astounding
As well as Dan "The Beast" Severn, who used to wrestled in WWE during the Attitude Era. Hell, even Ronda Rousey, and Shayna Baszler can beat up the whole WWE rosters.
Steve blackman, Dan severn, haku, ken shamrock, ronda rousey, ivy nile, shayna baszler, brock lesnar, dr death steve williams, these Guys would legitimately beat half of the roster up
As much heat as this guy gets, Russo is right. Owens doesn’t look like a prize fighter. Even Cornette says Zayn should keep wearing a shirt in the ring 😂 I mean they’re not wrong.
@@KingOso76tank Abbott was a legit tough guy / fighter who looked the part and would back it up.. owens doesn’t carry the tough guy image at all!! Soft tub of lard .. fat boy
Totally agree! I can see the difference in my sons eyes when Warrior or Macho are on the screen and freaking homeless looking SZ or KO. Also! KO went to my job, twice! And nobody knew who he was.
Owens is built like at least one prize fighter. Tank Abbott. But I do agree. Wrestlers should be larger than life. Not necessarily 6'8". A larger than life personality works as well.
@@That90sShow Obviously I'm talking about appearances and not actual skill sets or athletic ability. I wouldn't compare the skills sets of Owens and Abbott any more than I would compare the espionage skills of Daniel Craig to those of an actual British spy...... because wrestling isn't real.
Crowd pops don’t make you a draw. If that was the case, then every face in the WWF during the attitude era was a draw. Because they all got great pops.
That was all a gimmick to promote that movie. Vince stands by what he says. He was the first guy to give Booker T a WHC title run because he knew Booker T was the real deal and deserving of it.
A big fat guy ran and mowed him down from behind, Brock Lesnar would get knocked down from that. And Seth got straight back up, are you some kind of idiot?
You could tell me right now what a war is, a fight, a weapon, you can tell anyone what something is because you have seen it. Experiencing it yourself is different than observing. You antiRusso marks are all the same
But it's true, you have these samoan guys who all looked jacked, and they are telling us that this out-of-shape looking Canadian can beat any of them? I mean, please. There are 7 or 8 other guys I can believe. Not Sami. Sami is a Mick Foley like good guy, a really good sympathetic babyface and can with a match, but like Mick Foley, would need interference or can win in a multi-man match, like a triple threat, but not on a one-on-one match. @@Joecbg100
The 180 Kevin pulled from saying the Kliq killed the business to flashing their gang sign proved what type of person he is. The incident where he stopped a match to call a fan the F-word did as well.
Add Finn Balor, Jungle Boy, Daniel Bryan, and the Young Bucks to conversation. Too many legitimate vanilla midgets in the business today. And in regards to Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit being called “vanilla midget”, the two of them looked like fighters. They looked like you didn’t want to cross them.
Balor is in insane shape what are you talking about 🤣 literally not one bit of fat on that man. And Daniel Bryan is arguably the best wrestler on the world today. Agree on the rest though.
Normally I'm really not a Russo fan at all. But where is the lie here? It isn't an exaggeration to say that Sami gets nowhere without Roman's heat. Because it was the fan's hatred of Roman that led to the absurd grass roots underdog shit that then led to fans wanting to see Sami beat Roman. Take Roman away and Sami just isn't that over. The IC title is already losing interest because a dude with no muscles that looks homeless is holding it, as opposed to Gunther, who inspired awe once his reign really got going. I also agree about Owens. The right gimmick, and his build works for him. But there is a reason that The Rock draws what he does and Owens draws what he does.
I kind of agree with him. The Attitude Era was very funny, and part of that was how absurd and hilarious it was to see these huge guys in tights basically doing comedy sketches. Family Members of mine who hated wrestling would stop what they were doing to watch that spectacle. Like bodybuilders in speedos doing Shakespeare. Now, when they're being funny, it really just looks like regular people in a just another improv or sketch comedy troop - and not a very good one.
I don't see Owens' having a gimmick as an out-of-shape guy who eats junk food, at least now seeing that this niche was eventually filled by Otis (who was training at the Performance Center at the time this clip was recorded).
Yes I agreed. KO doesn't look like a prize fighter. I viewed him as a Stone Cold wannabe, using Steve Austin's stunner as his finisher. How unoriginal!
He is the only one who didn't put his own spin on it. It's like he was a jobber in 1999 WCW and blatantly stole it. Him jobbing to old man Austin was poetic justice, though, because you just know it crushed his soul the same way losing to Goldberg did.
@@ReinEngelI understand where you're coming from but realistically how many different ways can you do a move? By that logic Every wrestler has "stolen" their finisher from someone else
@@jasontodd1896 lol pretty sure mysterio sold more merch and tickets then 98% of wrestlers ever period. And Russo goes on to say he never liked wrestling that much yet never stops talking about it.🙄🙄🙄
Yall cant doubt that vince loves the business tho. I just feel like he just treated the business as a 9 to 5 at girst. Then ended up becoming interested in it eventually.
Foley was never a bad-ass like Stone Cold or The Rock. He was this " loser " that nothing could put down and always got back up. Russo's problem isn't that Owens has a bad look, it's that he acts as if he is Stone Cold.
I agree to a point, there are too many guys that look like they could be just your everyday guy walking around the store. That can still work with some guys like Road Dog or even Arn Anderson back in the day but Road Dog was a great talker and had so much charisma. Arn looked like the kind of guy that would walk into a hick bar and knock out the loudmouth. They still had an IT factor.
Somebody call Cornette, they actually agree on something!
Lol
They're more alike than they're not and it's probably why they don't get on. I don't think Jim Cornette would get on with Jim Cornette lol
Dude WHAT him and cornette had big boners over Jeff Jarrett even tho he’s fucking trash. Both of them made him champion lol
cornette likes steen he just couldn’t get along with him well behind the scenes
I agree with Vince. I didn't buy into Owens at first when he was beating everyone but now that he is more of a common man with an anger problem, this fits him better.
Although he makes good points, this is the same guy who booked David Arquette and himself to win the world title. Ironic
Tell the whole truth, mark
@@kalb390 wdym?
Title doesn't mean shit in a fake wrestling company dude.
Vince McMahon won Royal rumble too, did it matter?
@@bladey_0_10 Lets face it, winning the fake title can make you larger than life and into a pop culture mega star. Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Sting, Austin, Rock, Goldberg, Batista and Cena are perfect examples
You will never not convince me he was doing shite like that to intentionally hurt the WCW brand, and in cahoots with Vince to do so to boot lol
The way I laughed when he took his glasses off 😂
I feel the same way as Vince Russo when there is a situation where I have to take off my glasses and rub my face like that.
Vince Russo is a legend.
This guy Russo is 1000% right what's he's saying here is physical stature size like WWF Hulk hogan, Ultimate warrior, King Kong bundy ,The Warlord ,Sycho Sid ,Undertaker ect.
Exactly
Homie must've never heard of butterbean or King Kong Bundy they were the essence of prized fighters in the carnie days
LOL Butterbean was a circus attraction who fought bums, Larry Holmes beat him easily when he was 25 years older than Butterbean lol
@@chunkz1187 I ain't saying he was good I wouldn't even know I just know that's what slot of people think of when they think of prized fighters 🤷
The irony of me clicking on this and watching Russo say Zayn can't draw right after seeing the crowd pop like crazy for Zayn at Wrestlemania 40 is astounding
I like Sami but a crowd pop doesn’t mean you’re a draw lol
Wrestlemania wasnt a DRAW cuz of Sami & KO lolololol?
Russo is still right. Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens can make a crowd pop, sure, they're likeable guys. But they're not draws.
Are we gonna ignore a whole year of sami being the best babyface in the business? come on now. people travel to see sami.
@@92Rafayno lmfao. the bloodline was
In all fairness, Ken Shamrock would kick 99% of the rosters ass lol
As well as Dan "The Beast" Severn, who used to wrestled in WWE during the Attitude Era. Hell, even Ronda Rousey, and Shayna Baszler can beat up the whole WWE rosters.
that guy was buff though
Steve blackman CAN do that as well
Steve blackman, Dan severn, haku, ken shamrock, ronda rousey, ivy nile, shayna baszler, brock lesnar, dr death steve williams, these Guys would legitimately beat half of the roster up
@@ChrisJProductionzwas about to say Steve Williams. Dude was a shaved bear.
Almost the entire aew roster doesn't look like a "professional wrestler".
That's why the same -million- -900k- 800k watch every week and 80% of arenas are blacked out.
What does a professional wrestler look like?
Nice the freaks turning a none are video to am aew topic. Touch some grass my guy
Aew is so bad lol
Pentagon does
One of the rare times I actually agree with Vince.
Tyson fury
When he asked Russo about Sami Zayn 😂
Like him or not, Russo is spitting facts right here. He 100% hit the nail on the head.
This thumbnail is incredible 😂
As much heat as this guy gets, Russo is right. Owens doesn’t look like a prize fighter. Even Cornette says Zayn should keep wearing a shirt in the ring 😂 I mean they’re not wrong.
So, David "Tank" Abbott doesn't come to mind at all huh?
Butter bean
@@KingOso76tank Abbott was a legit tough guy / fighter who looked the part and would back it up.. owens doesn’t carry the tough guy image at all!! Soft tub of lard .. fat boy
They’re very wrong. Two of the most over guys in the business.
Russo ain’t doing shit to Sami or Kevin
Totally agree! I can see the difference in my sons eyes when Warrior or Macho are on the screen and freaking homeless looking SZ or KO.
Also! KO went to my job, twice! And nobody knew who he was.
He explained how I feel about Orange Cassidy and Wheeler Yuta
They now have a new kid named Nick Wayne
@@cHriiSzbEehe's 17 man 😂
OC draws dimes
I love Russo. He is cash money and shits on the wrestling nerds.
Owens is built like at least one prize fighter. Tank Abbott.
But I do agree. Wrestlers should be larger than life. Not necessarily 6'8". A larger than life personality works as well.
You clearly haven't looked at pictures of these two, side by side.
Tank Abbott is is a proven fighter, Fatboy Owens isn't
😂😂😂😂😂 tank abott could bench press 600 pounds kid.
@@That90sShow Obviously I'm talking about appearances and not actual skill sets or athletic ability. I wouldn't compare the skills sets of Owens and Abbott any more than I would compare the espionage skills of Daniel Craig to those of an actual British spy...... because wrestling isn't real.
@@gammasmash1924 look at the arms of Abbott, the shoulders, traps, overall size and then compared it to Kevin, come on now
Yup I agree Vince is not wrong
Kamala was strong as hell, and huge....He absolutely looked like a wrestler.
"Hey, why you gotta disrespect me like that?! 🧐"
- Vince Russo's next door neighbor
He does have a point.
Crowd pops don’t make you a draw. If that was the case, then every face in the WWF during the attitude era was a draw. Because they all got great pops.
Love it or hate it. He ain't telling lies.
He is
telling the truth. We know@@jacksmith-mu3ee
He is not.@@jacksmith-mu3ee
He’s not lying he’s just wrong that’s all.
He’s just out of touch and lost in the sauce
"I never sor a prize fighter look like that" dude, you booked the Butterbean match with Bart.
Not the same look and you know it. Owens just looks like a guy who has to lose weight.
he's not wrong
I don't think even Jim Cornette could find anything to disagree about in this one at least. Since its the type of thing he would say
They are more similar than they would like to believe
He would find something.
What year or date was this interview?
around 2016-2017. Vince Russo said he's 56 in this video and he was born in 61.
I think a wrestler should look like a wrestler. Says a guy who put the title on David arquette. And himself. Neither of who look like wrestlers
That was all a gimmick to promote that movie. Vince stands by what he says. He was the first guy to give Booker T a WHC title run because he knew Booker T was the real deal and deserving of it.
Tony schiavone was the one who thought of that
@@andrewvincent7299so not just an idiot but a sell out as well, great
common Russo W
I can’t believe I agree with Vince Russo
That's why he never liked Samoa Joe either i bet he wrote that line for Scott Steiner to say HE'S FAATT!!!
@@YousefTubeSamoa Joe and Kevin Owens weren’t and will never be the same. Samoa Joe looks like a beast. Owens looks like he’s moderately in-shape.
@@LlyodLlwelleyn Samoa Joe also is skilled in martial arts. The only prize he ever fought for is a hotdog eating contest
Russo has a point. Dude is right
I actually agree with Russo here. Wrestlers should have muscle unless they're like 6'8 like Big Show
But even Show had muscles in 2000.
Seth Rollins got handled by a fan
Exactly
That's BS. That fan tackled him from behind.
A big fat guy ran and mowed him down from behind, Brock Lesnar would get knocked down from that. And Seth got straight back up, are you some kind of idiot?
tbf he was fat
Based take by Russo. Actual facts .
I really thought this clip would not have him saying bro. oh well.
What made you assume that ?
Totally agree!
2:22 "Sami Zayn looks like my next door neighbor" 😂😂😂😂
Dude for real I'm dying listening to this, I have nothing against Sami or Kevin but this is hilarious 😂
This is the same guy that made himself wcw champion at a time during giants in wrestling
A man who has never been in a fight his entire life trying to tell people what a fighter looks like
And how he can last over a minute in a legit fight with all these guys! 😂😂😂😂
Completely irrelevant
@@jasonshields1709Vince Russo is 6"2
You could tell me right now what a war is, a fight, a weapon, you can tell anyone what something is because you have seen it. Experiencing it yourself is different than observing. You antiRusso marks are all the same
And an obese mark seething in the youtube comment section because he's got a body like Kevin owens and russo is right
How come whenever someone asks him current event questions he has to refer to the old days when he was apart of the product?😂
He's absolutely spot on with this. Owens looks like the merch guy for a rock band, never a wrestler in a million years.
But this isn't about looks through Russo it's about your skills in the ring... It sounds about being good on the mic as well.
Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn are only big because of the bloodline storyline take that away, they’re just a midcard talent.
This coming from a guy who put himself front and center of WCW storylines right up until it's demise.
How is that relevant?
Russo was 1% of the cause of WCW dying
@@sus45923 Yeah, he got viewers up by a million in two months or so when he was head writer.
@@phat_dikein his mind he did
@@ICHIBAN-cz8ih check figures for October to November 1999
Never thought i would say this. But i agree with $h!tstain, Particularly about Kevin.
Kevin and El Generico had the best fued ever
Butterbean didnt look like a prize fighter either
Dude loves muscles.
Fully agree!!
BRUNO !!!!!....freakin love Vince
Yikes
What year was this
2017
This guys a former World Champion so this makes sense to me.
Vince says bro at the weirdest times…
Russo gets it. No man boobies and day walkers lol
He’s right. I see Sami beating up members of the blood line and I cringe 😬
that's your problem, tool
But it's true, you have these samoan guys who all looked jacked, and they are telling us that this out-of-shape looking Canadian can beat any of them? I mean, please. There are 7 or 8 other guys I can believe. Not Sami. Sami is a Mick Foley like good guy, a really good sympathetic babyface and can with a match, but like Mick Foley, would need interference or can win in a multi-man match, like a triple threat, but not on a one-on-one match. @@Joecbg100
Yeah, sure you do... 🙄
This is a chicken and the egg situation, and Russo has it backwards.
10000% facts
Russo misses the old eras i feel his pain 😢 we all do mate
He misses making millions bullshitting his bosses
Facts
I agree
I actually agree with him for once
Before every second word of his was ‘bro’.
Yeah the drop in wrestling ratings from the attitude era is because of how wrestlers look now and had nothing to do with the rise of MMA 🙄
Russo is 100% correct.
The 180 Kevin pulled from saying the Kliq killed the business to flashing their gang sign proved what type of person he is. The incident where he stopped a match to call a fan the F-word did as well.
Rey Mysterio jr. says hi
Russo must forget working with Tank Abbot
Tank Abbott was a legitimate fighter though
You're comparing fat and weak kevin steen to Tank Abott?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tank was an actual fighter
Add Finn Balor, Jungle Boy, Daniel Bryan, and the Young Bucks to conversation. Too many legitimate vanilla midgets in the business today. And in regards to Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit being called “vanilla midget”, the two of them looked like fighters. They looked like you didn’t want to cross them.
Id beat them up of you take those steroids out of the equation, anyone could with a punchers chance.
@@whoopty54 Sure big boy, sure.
Balor is in insane shape what are you talking about 🤣 literally not one bit of fat on that man. And Daniel Bryan is arguably the best wrestler on the world today. Agree on the rest though.
Chris Benoit looks like a murderer…
@@rafmeinster i'll fight anybody,anytime on the keyboard. Physical fighting is overrated. Virutal ass licking..kicking is what men do.
Normally I'm really not a Russo fan at all. But where is the lie here? It isn't an exaggeration to say that Sami gets nowhere without Roman's heat. Because it was the fan's hatred of Roman that led to the absurd grass roots underdog shit that then led to fans wanting to see Sami beat Roman. Take Roman away and Sami just isn't that over. The IC title is already losing interest because a dude with no muscles that looks homeless is holding it, as opposed to Gunther, who inspired awe once his reign really got going.
I also agree about Owens. The right gimmick, and his build works for him. But there is a reason that The Rock draws what he does and Owens draws what he does.
This coming from a guy who was a Jerry Springer sycophant, bought his own hype, went to WCW, and dive bombed.
The most shocking part of this interview was the lack of Russo saying bro.
This was from 2017.
Is it just me, or does Sean look way different for some reason? I almost didn't recognize him...
Old clip from 2016
Vince should have entered himself in the brawl for all
Meanwhile KO and Sami are probably 2 of the most over guys in the company
I kind of agree with him. The Attitude Era was very funny, and part of that was how absurd and hilarious it was to see these huge guys in tights basically doing comedy sketches. Family Members of mine who hated wrestling would stop what they were doing to watch that spectacle. Like bodybuilders in speedos doing Shakespeare. Now, when they're being funny, it really just looks like regular people in a just another improv or sketch comedy troop - and not a very good one.
There's plenty of prize fighters that don't look like Mr. Olympia and still are champions...WTH is he talking about??
Yeah...and Kevin Owens is not one of them. He looks like a fat guy at a college party hanging out by the kegs.
I don't see Owens' having a gimmick as an out-of-shape guy who eats junk food, at least now seeing that this niche was eventually filled by Otis (who was training at the Performance Center at the time this clip was recorded).
Yes I agreed. KO doesn't look like a prize fighter. I viewed him as a Stone Cold wannabe, using Steve Austin's stunner as his finisher. How unoriginal!
He is the only one who didn't put his own spin on it. It's like he was a jobber in 1999 WCW and blatantly stole it. Him jobbing to old man Austin was poetic justice, though, because you just know it crushed his soul the same way losing to Goldberg did.
@@ReinEngelI understand where you're coming from but realistically how many different ways can you do a move? By that logic Every wrestler has "stolen" their finisher from someone else
@@ReinEngelare you stupid? He main evented mania against Austin in his last match. That was probably the best moment of KO’s life.
But he is good at promos tho
Austin literally gave him permission and said he didn’t know what took a wrestler so long to ask him. 🤡
What about the Young Bucks and Daniel Bryan ?
Daniel Bryan was lame
The Incredible Sulk
Apparently Russo said the same about Eddie Guerrero and mysterio
He kinda had a point
@@jasontodd1896 lol pretty sure mysterio sold more merch and tickets then 98% of wrestlers ever period. And Russo goes on to say he never liked wrestling that much yet never stops talking about it.🙄🙄🙄
Eddie Guerrero took so many steroids to become a decent size that his heart blew up.
and he's not wrong. But, i'm sure people will say he doesn't know what he's talking about.
1:09 - 😂😂😂😂😂
100% Truth!!
Yall cant doubt that vince loves the business tho. I just feel like he just treated the business as a 9 to 5 at girst. Then ended up becoming interested in it eventually.
He is right on that one
Such a crazy time where I have to agree with Russo on this subject.
Russo was great in the attitude era him and vince did magic love or hate him
It took him 4:50 in to say his first and only Bro 😮
I get wrestlers are different shapes but a world champ looks a different way
Russo loved Mick Foley I guess he looked like a wrestler huh 🙄🙄
Well he said it's ok if it fits the character. I think Foley + his many faces is in a similar category as someone like Roddy piper
@@ShardTown Foley's look had nothing to do with his character get the f*ck outta here
Foley was never a bad-ass like Stone Cold or The Rock.
He was this " loser " that nothing could put down and always got back up.
Russo's problem isn't that Owens has a bad look, it's that he acts as if he is Stone Cold.
Foley catered to Russo's ego and willingly went along with a lot of his bullshit.
@VP Of Rent'em Spoons *successfull under the watchful eye of Vince McMahon and Patterson for around one year
I agree to a point, there are too many guys that look like they could be just your everyday guy walking around the store. That can still work with some guys like Road Dog or even Arn Anderson back in the day but Road Dog was a great talker and had so much charisma. Arn looked like the kind of guy that would walk into a hick bar and knock out the loudmouth. They still had an IT factor.
Road Dogg was a Platoon Sergeant in the Marines, was in the Gulf War, and is over 6 foot tall legit. Pretty serious in my book.
How does Ken Shamrock not look like he’d kill everyone?
He’s talking facts.
He aint wrong tbh..but his booking record was inconsistent.
Russo right like always.
He’s the one that’s cut off
A F’ing writer got better mic skills than 90% of the roster today
and thats what people don't realize, out here wishing anyone should win the titles, when they can't even cut promos
So true