THE MIND OF HURON BLACKHEART! WHY THE RED CORSAIRS DOMINATE THE RENEGADES!
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- Hey everyone Wolf Lord Rho here! Today we're discussing Chaos Space Marines and the success of the Red Corsairs! Why in truth it's all thanks to their leader, Huron Blackheart...
Spoiler Warning to begin as the events we're discussing today are from the Warhammer 40,000 novel "Huron Blackheart, Master of the Malestrom" by author Mike Brooks. As always I really recommend you read the stories for yourself first, as that's the best way to enjoy the lore for yourself. Without spoilers!
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Because Huron Black Heart is not just a Pirate..... He is a Prirate King!
"I am not a king, I don't want to be a king" Abbadon, Solar war
THE ONE PIECE, THE ONE PIECE IS REAL
@@erickcuesta6168 🎶CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER!? MMM SOOO HIGH!!! 🎶
The Luffy of 40k
@@BluntsNBolters More like Blackbeard
I feel like hes the closest example to a Chaos Guilliman we will ever get and the example Huron sets for using that logical yet caring nature in the most insidious way is kind of terrifying in its own right. If Huron is this persuasive, then Guilliman, his genefather, would be like this but even more so.
One of the scenes I really like with Huron contrast him with Abaddon. In the Night Lords series the main character is meeting with Abaddon and makes a pithy remark to him that pisses off the warmaster.
Talos notes that a great leader would have laughed off the remark of his junior and humor him in an attempt to win him to his side. Abaddon instead shoots him.
In the next book the character is negotiating with Huron and is trading barbs and when Huron makes a jab about the Night Lords failures Talos notes that it must be hard for Huron to get accurate information so far from the front lines and the real war.
Everyone in the Throne room falls silent and one of Talos’s companions remarks that he just killed them all. Huron by contrast to Abaddon laughs off Talos’s remarks and states he would have liked to seen Nostromo for it bred interesting sons and then hires them.
Huron offers pragmatism; Abaddon offers romanticism.
Abaddon: Let us fight like the old Legion in conquering this rotten Imperium!
Huron: Fight for me and you'll reap the reward without strings attached to it.
Huron is vastly superior to Abaddon from a character standpoint. Abaddon is often this almost one dimensional, moustache twirling supervillain who cackles, has childish fits of anger, all whilst wearing ten foot thick plot armour to achieve his goals. In contrast, Blackheart IS evil, but he's this nuanced, intelligent, almost reasonable but certainly reasoned arch villain who you can't help but appreciate, because it's that dark intellect that makes him genuinely scary as a villain. At this point, Abaddon is a tool used by GW to advance the plot, often in a very contrived way. Huron on the other hand is a massive threat simply on his own merit, and should, in my opinion, end up usurping the title of warmaster and killing Abaddon.
When you say it that way, it reminds me of Al Swearengen. Also agree about The Despoiler, maybe not kill him off but REALLY revamp his well, everything at this point.
Yeah fair, I suppose killing him off would be unkind to his (Honestly impressively loyal and resilient) fans in the community. Maybe Huron could usurp the title of Warmaster, and Abaddon could escape or be exiled with a bunch of the Black Legion, and start building his power again from the ground up. That could be an interesting story in itself, and give newer writers at BL chance to redeem the Despoiler as a character after years of... well, let's call it hit and miss writing.
You literally repeat majorkill’s points word for word
@@VDViktor Well great minds think alike then or something, because if he's done a video on Huron, I haven't seen it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Huron Blackheart and his red corsairs are a better version of the black legion, what do you guys think?
yes
and Huron for warmaster!
The Red Corsairs are more interesting thats for sure!
Agree
Hes like Abbadon
But je is smarter and actually Reasonable/Good at planning
Abbadon tends to just Leroy Jenkins Astartes at things
Too small.
And now I really hope for a coversation between Guilliman and Huron at some point! Although G-man would likely be his superior in most things, I can kind of see how Huron could exploit Guilliman's displeasure with the current state of the Imperium, and how their logical approach to things could mae them somewhat kindred though enemies. Think that could be a much more interesting rivalry than Guilliman vs most other big bads of the 40k-verse. Expect maybe Zarek or perphaps Lorgar.
Let's be honest the Badab War wouldn't have happened if Guilliman woke up early, maybe a thousand years earlier. Plus there is a rumours that the Astral Claws are the son's of Guilliman.
@@griffionwyvrus9063 True. And if they really are descendants of the UM that would only make a conversation/confrontation that much cooler😁
I could be wrong, but didn't Huron capture G-man before the his crusade or something like that?
@@getfreur2458 Think it was a sub-ordinate of Huron, but G-man escaped before they could meet :/
that's a great material indeed. in the lore there are a few characters drawn by their respective authors outside the templates offered by Games Workshop. Characters that may follow the general faction (chaos, imperium etc) although they're doing it by usin their own reasoning instead of following their respective faction tradition (genetic conditioning). One of these characters is Huron, other coming to mind right now may be Honsou (on the chaos side) and Lukas (on the imperial side). Feels good to find such characters cutting their own path, they give the lore an extra layer of complexity, making it less stereotype.
I see Huron turning to chaos as a worst example of Imperium's self-destructive ignorance. A brilliant Astartes commander, administrator and manager, capable of securing the Maelstrom zone first against all odds for the Imperium and then against all adds against the same Imperium. This is what a true military and civilian genius should loon like. And yes, in many ways this is a chaos-oriented grandpa Smurf)
Not The Imperium.......the Inqusition and their unbridled arrogance.
Just another example in a long list of why the Inquisition needs to be reigned in and brought to heel. A rogue organization rhat has unlimited power and answers to no one is never the answer to any question.
This was one of those books I truly didn't want to end.
Whoah. Thanks for that. I never knew that Huron is such a reasonable man. Immediate jump to my top 5 characters.
Interesting, similar to Abandon's approach to the lunar gene cult leader. Appeals to a person diligent in thier duty, the last standing, both female, appealing to the same feelings and thoughts. Abbadon and Blackheart, are they kindred spirits?
The incident, I am referring to is in the final chapters of the Solar war. There's enough of Abaddon's interactions there to have generated an interest.
Nice catch! There are definitely clear parallels between those two episodes. The old 16th Legion was famed for their ruthlessly pragmatic approach to warfare.
It really is a variation on how he behaved when he was commander of the chapters that comprised the Maelstrom Warders before the Badab War.
"IRRELEVANT!" best line in the whole damn book!
didn't even know who this guy was a day ago...now he's my favorite character in the setting!
This is a perfect example of why he is the Warmaster we need… not Failbadon the Armless (retconned or not)
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Huron Blackheart: "Dominate!!! I didn't even try."
Hes very Genghis Khan Like. Tolerant to everything and everyone provided they come to his call and acknowledge him as their Khan.
'Chaos Khan' does have a ring to it!
Because Huron does not seek glory, he seeks results.
its tactics like this that make me really believe that Huron is of Ultramarine stock.
Hey Rho thanks for that video. For someone like me, who knew Huron only from Gothic Armada 2, this was valuable.
Bonfire night Special on Rho, with a fiery theme? (Bonfire night is better than Christmas, change my mind).
He's like Montoya from the Miami Vice movie. He isn't buying a service, he's buying results. You do you boo, as long as it gets what I want.
Definitely a rival to Abbadon, maybe abbadon knows how dangerous Huron is and how successful he is, thats why he gave him a blackstone fortress as a type of Bribe.
Huron & the Red Corsairs are my favorite Chaos Legion, but they've shown that Abaddon is planning things far into the future. Even if Huron "isn't" going to betray him, there are definitely insurgents ready just incase.
This reminds me of the time when a Tzeench greater daemon appeared in front of the chapter master of the soul drinkers the daemon told them that: Chaos is true freedom.
Luft Huron was a badass as an astral claw and is as a red Corsair
So it never has been stated what their original gene stock came from as far as I'm aware, I know they plunder the reserves of other legions so the corsairs are now mixed but who do you think was the original gene sire?
They were astral claws before their fall in the badab war and the astral claws were ultramarine successors
@@jaredcross897 thanks! I guess when they raided the ultramarine temple in the Night Lords novels for their geneseed it wasn't too far off what they had to begin with
I think that Huron is the best "BEST good GUY" than the rest of the lords of CHAOS!
The Tyrant of Badab a 'Good Guy' I think that might be going abit too far, but I agree he is the best Chaos Lord!
@@duppyman9025I mean he was a pretty decent guy until the imperium fucked him
Ah yes, some of the Inquisition's best work.
Red Corsairs are my favourite traitors. I think Hurons approach to this Warband is what makes him strong. Huron let's Vengar grow in strength and then gets rid of him and it doesn't look like its his fault. Other Lords would kill any threats with no second though which leads to infighting. Hurons ability to get rid of Undisirables and not start a large civil conflict is remarkable but also not be super confusioning like the Alpha legion
He's Chaos without the chaotic.
Well I guess my love of the Red Corsairs and Huron Blackheart
Love Huron he is one of the better written Chaos Marines in 40K.
He’s a pragmatic leader that as long as your loyal you maintain your freedom. Honestly I’d rather work for him than zealots from the imperium or chaos. He reminds me of a certain Persian empire founder. Even when taking over a nation he left the leaders in place and allowed whatever religion was in place to remainas long as they paid taxes and were loyal. Most people of treated with dignity and respect don’t mind who is in charge. He’s dangerous because he doesn’t require chaos to change people just better options than they have. Why kill a valuable defeated foe when you can use their talent for yourself and improve your side especially if they aren’t zealots.
would love if it became that red corsairs is a rival to black legion just snatching up more and more renegades and eventually do a split so like abaddon keeps mortarion and that khorne guy i cant remember and red corsairs gets like iron warriors with a big alliance with their primarch and maybe i dunno the night legion or whatever they were called
Angron and Night Lords.
@@milanmarkovic2721 right man that was a fuckng bad block i had lol
@@karljohan2300 Don't worry. Good thing I needed a link of this video for twitter x ir I'd've never seen your comment.
All hail the true War master Huron Blackheart
Talos was wrong to double cross black heart. The sense of superiority of Being one of the first founding legions is understandable but for a Legion as clean of chaos taint as the Night Lords, they should understand the value of having one such as Huron as an ally in this war for eternal night.
He hasn’t been fully corrupted by Chaos. This allows him to retain his sanity and his ability to lead.
on no he has fallen completely to chaos hes jjust not a single minded tyrant but a pragmatic and charismatic leader that understands his assets pros and cons and not sending marines specialized for terror tactics to act as meat for the front lines like abbadon did and actually used the night lords for what they are good at terror tactics. and then betraying them when they are not needed taking there ship.
I detest Chaos. That said, one can be intelligent and a servant to the Ruinous Powers; it's not mutually exclusive. Huron is both a capable leader and a slave to darkness.
Perturabo approves.
A lifetime of service to the Imperium, torn down in a fifteen-minuet chat with your sworn enemy!
The Empire needs you not, HERITIC!
Garro comes to mind.
What about why he was given a blackstone fortress? What was the deal? What did have over abby?
I'm not the most well-versed in this, but my instinctual conclusion would be that the Red Corsairs are a substantial and fairly reliable asset. Huron is pragmatic and lacks the hubris found in traitor primarchs; Abaddon knows this. Abaddon also knows that Huron does not know how to operate the Blackstone Fortress. How Huron proceeds with resolving that issue is a win-win for the Despoiler. I see it as a mutually beneficial transaction.
@@atticus6572 that’s my thoughts (but I’m sure The Blackheart can figure it out) I was looking for something confirmed
Huron should be Warmaster for a long time (or Warsmith Honsu), GW really should put old chap Abby to rest as they keep make him a ginat failure
Tyberos and his sneaky shark boys need to finish what they started.
Both have completely different mindset, in which both have different tendecies due to their time when rebelling. Abaddon Black Legion warfare is essentially simmiliar during the great crusade and the horus heresy, huge forces committed without considering its flexibility and potential. While Huron is essentially using the tactics he used when he was a chapter master where small forces are employed with its own flexibilities. Abaddon offer an abstrac prizes like glory or favour by the dark gods, while Huron offers actual physicals plunders.
Huron for warmaster
So what happened to her afterward in this story?
She went on to work for Huron and tagged a long throughout the book. Can't remember if she is still alive or not.
Perfect space pirate tbh.
Massive intellect = Massive success especially with marine lvl motivation
Huron for Warmaster please. Boo to Abaddon, he was a hothead in the HH, and he's still one 10,000 years later
to me he has a cold practical genius with the right mix of master manipulator
It just goes to show how badly the imperium fucks up consistently Huron had the maelstrom under control and politics caused him to take up Chaos no wonder Guelliemon had to clean up house after coming back
Hail Red Corsairs!
Other than the NL's, Dope warband.
Huron for Warmaster
Hydra Dominatus
Blackheart for Warmaster!
You need to start a rumble channel.
He’s the captain barbosa of 40k
Ace 1
Id really hate to see him die. I really hope he go to be an anti-hero more like. Not what the empire wants, but what the empire needs....
in Germany werden call him Huronson
Huron os basically the MacGyver of 40k
Huron is what Abbadon should have been.
The only thing that Huron is missing, it's a reincarnation of his Tyrant's Legion under his command.
The legion are now the “reavers”
Huron does have many human forces under his command as well as some aliens. I guess it's not quite tyrants legion.. but it's possible a formation under Huron would be similar.
Has there been any indication as to how many marines Huron leads?
I'd guess somewhere in the ballpark of 8-10,000 Astartes and innumerable personnel, based on scattered evidence. Not the size of a Great Crusade legion by any means, but still a sizable host.
That doesn’t suggest he’s nearing Abaddon’s stature, as people seem to keep on saying.
@@jonharrison9222 Yeah, the Red Corsairs aren't even close to the Black Legion's size. Abaddon leads a staggering number of Astartes.
@@atticus6572I thought it was estimated he did have legion size now. Abaddon seems to be a few times larger than a legion sized. It was said in a book he has about 2-3x the size.
Virgin: abbadon
Chad: alpharius
Gigachad: Huron
Seems clever on the outside, but your average redshirt could take this apart with a vox unit, an auspex scanner, and an EV suit.
I liked him already, but this video just took it to a whole nothing level.
As for why he succeeds, it's because the Red Corsairs have the best drip with that red and black color scheme.
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Huron did nothing wrong.
Absolutely love Huron, amazing character, and I'm an imperialist.
Plot armour....that's how he became so powerful
Huron for Warmaster