This Little Box MASSIVELY Improved The Bronco's Speakers!!
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Installing the Kicker Key 200.4 Amp in my 2022 Ford Bronco! This is all Plug n Play thanks to Hoel Wiring. Use code "Jacob5" for 5% off your order of $50 or more at Hoel Wiring!
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Kicker Key 200.4 Amp: amzn.to/3AU8n98 (Goes in and out of stock regularly)
Video Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:37 Before Sound Test
2:18 After Sound Test
2:40 Before Sound Test
2:50 After Sound Test
3:08 Unboxing the Kicker Key and Wiring Harness
3:19 What is DSP?
5:20 Installation
7:20 Plugging in the Harness
9:55 Mounting the Amp
11:05 Running Power Wires to Battery
11:40 Running the DSP Setup
12:55 Troubleshooting the popping noise
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Good video. I did the same for my Bronco. I also bought the Kicker Hideaway 10 but have not installed it yet. I agree the Kicker Key wakes the speakers up and it is a big improvement, for the price I couldn't be more satisfied.
Thanks for the video, 2022 Badlands stock speakers and was looking for upgrades. This Amp is gonna be my 1st to see the difference, thanks again !!!
Great job Jacob! can't wait to hear it when you update the speakers. Sounds better. 😎👍
Thanks man!
We are all dingbats when we jump into something we haven't done before, but you just made us all smarter if we do this... Thanks.
Awesome video!!!
I replaced the stock 4" speakers with Pioneers and put Dynamat sound deadening in all 4 speaker enclosures while making the change. That improved the sound tremendously.
I used the Kicker speaker to replace the Ford ones on my Black Diamond Bronco. The sound 1000% better, but on the 4 inch speakers in the dashboard make sure u used a bass filter on them.
I just bought an entire package from Plug N Play kits. All new kicker speakers, kicker hideaway, key amp and the wiring harnesses to do the job. Can’t wait to install it when my rig arrives.
What was the cost on that kit? Do you have a link?
Also would love an answer to this question!
I’ll be installing all new kicker stuff in the next few weeks!
@@JacobRDotydid you ever install the hideaway? Do you have the b/o system?
I have the B&O and all I did was put in 6 1/4 kicker speakers in the rear and it woke up the system like you wouldn’t believe. Very happy with the sound quality now.
I have the b/o also and not impressed. Do you have a link for the speakers you got? That was the only change u made?
Sounds awesome. Definitely on my list to buy. What speakers are you planning on going with?
I installed the kicker key 500.1 and it’s one of the smartest amps I’ve ever put in my vehicle. Sounds amazing like the bass is surrounding you.
Damn thats alot of work 😆
Just used your video to install mine! Very helpful!
Did you get a chance to play with the rear speakers yet? If so, what did you do and how does it sound?
Can’t find any videos on it.
Does Hoel still offer this harness kit? When I click the link it only shows the speaker harness.
Did you ever feel the need to upgrade from the OEM speakers (after Kicker Key install)?
Jacob, do you need to play the white noise through car play to do the setup?
Didn't think we'd notice he's a greta fan 2:28 ROCK ON MAN!!!
You caught that eh? I’m seeing them here in Sac in November 🙌🏼
I want to add pioneer 2000 watt amp to factory stereo (b&o), do I still need that key or I just need T harness ? from where I can get just T harness
thanks
So , my dad was into High Fidelity 70 years ago, I learned a lot from the old man, rest his soul. So one of the largest problems and this has to do with almost every car manufacturer. They use low s/n ratio speakers. Typically what this can do is at higher wattage / volume, it will slightly over extrude the cones on the speakers which is that pop sound you hear cause the cone has reached its limit outward or inward as far as travel. Now there is a couple ways to combat this. One is buy higher s/n ratio speakers that can handle more wattage with less excursion. The other is to port the box the speaker is in, to the right size so your cone has an easier and less pressure to reach those levels which will reduce the pop. Typically speaker replacement is the best option without any modification of the cabinet but that speaker may also pop if it does not have enough air volume to move and typically higher s/n ratio speakers need more air inside the cabinet. If you mod the box with an air port then you have to not only get the port the optimal size for the speaker and the volume inside the cabinet but also the length it goes inside the cabinet correct for the best sound. The other problem with porting is you typically lose some of the low end so its less Bassy. I would say, in this application , if money is not a huge issue. replace the speakers with a higher s/n ratio. Then turn the bass down on the stock setup on the head unit and add in a powered sub in the rear , the unit may have a sub line level input on the back of the unit that's not being used. Get all the bass from that , let the mids and highs come from the surround speakers. If you want to use the speakers that came in the vehicle , still add a box , but you can get inline capacitors that you can attach to the positive side with some soldering that will act as a passive EQ and block the lower frequencies , say below 1 k hertz and then you never risk over excursion. There is calculators online to figure this out based off the ohms of the speaker.
A much easier way to explain is the car manufactures try to get the most as cheaply as they can. Honestly it's surprising how nice they can make junk speakers and electronics sound sometimes. Anything stock can be upgraded to sound far better. This has been the case for a long time/always. Even tho cars do sound far better than in the past, aftermarket sound is ALWAYS a vast improvement if you spend a little money and buy quality components. This Kicker amp is far from the best amp on the market. Just changing the speakers would help even more than the amp honestly. Doing both is the right way to tackle this project.
How did you get through the firewall? Video does not show how you did it???
Do you know if this is compatible with the JBL sound bar from Ford parts?
part number for wiring harness? there are a few to choose from....
Great video,Jacob! Hope you also like the JS2000
Where can I find the links for purchase?
Wish you compared the two with the equalizer set to flat or at least the same EQ settings. Product seems legit though.
Did you ever upgrade the speakers?
Can you put the volume to 30 or does it cut off?
no forscan yet but co ax instead of singles deck and pods was huge diff
kickers not so much but caliber of alpine much better then stock
all in all great bang for buck at 500 installed so far
does this work if you have the B&O sound system
Did you ever upgrade your speakers?
Does this also improve the speakers in the rear?
Depending what you want to spend, dont go cheap. Look at Audiofrong, Morel, Focal, JBL Stadium series, Hertz etc. You wont be disappointed
Definitely! I've had my eyes on a set from Focal and some other brands.
I have been thinking about this because I am interested in a bronco, and my recommendation would be to choose a speaker brand that offers more of a composite type cone with a rubber surround. This will ensure it’s more of a “weather proof” type speaker. You mentioned focal, their k2 might be a good option.
I agree! Buy Once - Cry Once! plan to rock AudioControl D series (DSP enabled) Amps pushing Morel Hybrid speakers and a JL Audio amp pushing a JL Audio sub!
If you want to so a full amp/speaker replacment the best fully integrated option is the DSR1. It will fully integrate and is mostly plug and play. The key is great solution if you want to do something simple. But if you want DSP control and want to add more amps use the DSR1.
I have the base audio in my Bronco and it's horrible. How hard was it to get the wires through the firewall? What was the problem that you mentioned with the fuse? Is there different fuse ratings for each fuse connector?
Easy to get through the firewall- there’s a grommet that ford has there that’s blank - ready for mods.
The fuse was my fault because I accidentally touched wires together I shouldn’t have lol. I blew the fuse letting a ground touch when it shouldn’t lol - nothing went wrong because the fuse did it’s job
@@JacobRDoty did you accidentally touch the two power wires for the amp?
Jacob, I clicked on the link for the harness and ordered what the link took me to. Upon arrival it was only the “Y” harness and not the other long pieces that go to the kicker and to the battery. Do you have a link for the rest of the harness?
Hoping for an answer on this as well! Just got a Bronco and hope this is still an option! The link does unavailable now
Did you change the settings on the Kicker Key after the setup? Turn up gain, change other switches etc., than what you stated?
Nope, I actually have them all the way down and just let the DSP run itself. The next thing I've seen is to activate the rear speakers using Forscan. Ford from factory basically nerf'd them so they're barely playing any range of audio. I have a couple of things I want to play around with in Forscan, but I have a mac. I'll figure it out and make a video soon!
I have a Mac also, so I’m curious I thought they have a crossover app
I was watching other videos and it appears you can power the kicker key 200.4 through the harness using the stereos power. Or power it directly to the battery like you did?
Amplifiers use to much power to wire any were other than directly to the battery. Even a small amp like this should be wired the way he did it. fires in cars are very dangerous. hehe.
Have you increased the gain at all? If I turn it more than a quarter way up the limiter lights up on the amp and the speakers pop. Wondering if they're just overpowered on stock speakers
Yeah that sounds like you’re clipping. I’d adjust it back down
Hey Jacob, I just got my Kicker Key. And I went to go buy the wiring harness and it’s no longer on the website. Do you know if they will be back in stock anytime soon?
I do but there are literally thousands of comments per week across all of my videos. Sometimes it’s tough to keep track.
Gus @ Hoel said they had some stock issues for some of the harness parts but they’re back in stock now 👍
Can you provide details how you penetrated firewall?
There’s actually a built in grommet on these! Super easy by the pedals
Would this work on an F-150 Lightning XLT with the base/non-B&O speakers?
I'm almost positive he can make the harness for it once the pins are established - his harness quality is top notch!
Do you have a problem with the factory audio chime when you get into your bronco being extremely loud.
Nope! Hasn’t affected it
i replaced deck and pods with alpine co ax and alpine kicker panels fade back of console and what a difference now i up grading to tail gate sub for extra boost with top down lol
Did you do the ForScan mod to “turn on” the full range to the rear. This was a problem for 21-22 but they retuned from factory on 23s. That’s what I’ve read online - I haven’t heard and verified myself
When u use an aftermarket radio, it usually has a bunch of different EQ settings or an actual EQ. So upgrades with a new amp and new speakers with just a bass, treble and midrange?? Hows that actuall sound?
I have wondered the same thing yet not one person has addressed it
Do you still have full articulation of the steering wheel?
No, he can only drive straight, but the sound is great!
howd you manage to get the big screen in the base bronco?
It’s the outer banks.
Mine is the outer banks
Could you still use this with aftermarket speakers and see Gains?
Of course, Speakers would help even more than the Amp if you had to pick one or the other and bought good speakers. Doing both is the right way to do it. Aftermarket speakers are what this amp needs to sound right.
Is the B&O in the lux package worth it?
It's good to buy it if you want the options and do what this guy has done. For sure it's worth it.
How does the 4 channel amp power 6 speakers? do you have the front speakers to 2 channels and the back to another 2?
I would guess your right.
It doesn’t fully power the rear speakers in this config iirc. There are probably ways to do that though. I think Forscan and “activating” the rear speakers would be the best way while just amplifying the front channels.
Where did you get those blacked out headlights?
On the Bronco?
@@JacobRDoty nah man your stang I have the exact same year and your headlights housing looks way darker than mins
@@kovani199 Oh! I had them built and blacked out. You have to take them apart and disassemble, paint, and then re seal them.
Where are you located? No joke, I’d gladly hire you to do the same to my bronco.
I agree the base sound is terrible BUT the B&O is amazing! Not sure why people discount it so much. My friend has the lux speakers and I think it rocks!
I've got the B&O and it's barely palpable.
@@aeromechmike To each his own. I experienced the B&O in an OuterBanks and I was more than impressed. I own a bronco now with the lux and I think it's wonderful. My only thought is you must have a very low tolerance to audio systems because I have zero complaints. Best to test and experience for yourself.
I have the B&O system as well, I find the sub to Be very Muddy and Blends terribly with the highs and mids. I find myself having to turn the bass lower than factory setting to avoid distortion, even on song that aren’t bass heavy. Previously I had a grand Cherokee with the alpine 10 speaker system and I loved it.
sound is very subjective. If you are use to listening to stock stereos in cars and have never upgraded, The Bronco B&O could sound nice to you. If you had experience installing high end car audio into your cars as a kid in the 90's like me. You are spoiled and almost any stock stereo system sounds trashy especially and not limited to the bass. Many people are also tone deaf and they don't know it, because that's all they know and they have never been tested. Everyone doesn't hear the same. In the end, these people are not wrong. My Girlfriends Bronco with the huge screen and fancy B&O stereo sounds horrible compared to my stock mustang and my stock F-350 even. The Bronco sound was very disappointing after waiting a year and a half to get it.
@@aeromechmike I agree...It's WAY underpowered and the limiter kicks in and reduces bass way too early (around volume 19). I am really disappointed in the B&O set up and don't know if I want to mess with a new amp or not.
Anyone you now that did this on a bo system yet? What is the difference if so?
I just did my subwoofer install…poops allllll over a BO system. I’ll make a video soon!
I am asking this is as a genuine question - not being rude about your setup.
Doesn't the fact that you have custom EQ adjustments in the deck defeat the purpose of DSP balancing all of the sounds?
I am of the understanding that your deck should have all of the EQ frequency ranges at a flat level (ie. 0). Then the DSP would do it's thing and adjust the sound that is going to the speakers. Am I mistaken?
Yep, that’s the exact way to do it. I have mine set with everything at 0
Will this work with the B&O?
No, I don’t think so
If you’re looking for something for the b&o look into Nav Tv. Their zen audio module will do what I assume you want to do.
Hope that Amp don't get hot and melt through the zip ties.
You need to mount your pistol under your steering wheel.
No 40 to 70k Vehicles should sound as bad as a Bronco
Great vid ,but buy yourself a portable work bench .really , trash cans!!!! Lol
$360 for the wiring harness!!! There has to be a less expensive option that’s plug and play.
No one complains about the Bang and Olufsen system. What are you talking about? B&O is absolutely INCREDIBLE
Lol. Literally was out on trails yesterday with other broncos and they said they regret the B&O. 😂😂
Anyone that has the B&O system in the Bronco says it's trash and not worth the cost
Not if you know what incredible is.@@mmatthews90