Gun Safe Security Test - Liberty Safe's Head to Head Pry Test Featured on Guns & Gear TV

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  • Gun Safe Security Test - Liberty Safe's Head to Head Pry Test featured on Guns & Gear TV
    Special thanks to Guns & Gear TV. Learn more about our safes and safety features at www.LibertySafe.com
    When it comes to your own safety, and security, there are a number of reasons many households are choosing to keep a gun for protection. Properly storing your gun in a proper safe cannot only add more safety for your loved ones but can also provide a secure place to keep other valuables. A gun safe can be a highly ideal way to keep your guns and valuables secure, but choosing one can take a lot of thought and consideration, especially with many makes and models in the market. There are specific ratings and tests done to ensure that the gun safe you chose to keep in your home will do the job you need it to and can be crucial for gaining additional coverage from insurance companies.
    What You Need To Know About Gun Safe Security Tests:
    In the United States the only safety ratings that most insurance companies will accept are ones given by the Underwriters Laboratories' or UL. When looking to buy a gun safe it should display a UL rating, ones that do not should be avoided. There are a number of UL tests that are done and ratings are giving out accordingly to the tests performed.
    UL Tests Include:
    RSC- The Residential Security Container is typically the lowest rating test done by the UL. For the safe to pass this rating it must come with a resistant force door, meaning it cannot be pried open with a screwdriver, crowbar or other objects. It must remain resistance to the pry test for at least five minutes of this outside force. It should be noted that the way the test is performed does not require this resistance to be a continuous five minutes. The individuals, who are trained and experienced at breaking into safes, can start and stop the resistance applied to the safe to review and recalculate where to try and open it. These safes DO NOT require a locking system.
    When it comes to keeping your guns secure and safe, as well as your other possessions and valuables, you want to be sure to find the highest quality. One of the easiest ways to know if the safe you chose is reliable from the safety ratings it has been given.
    Liberty Safes are proudly made in the USA and we are the #1 manufacturer of gun safes, fire safes and commercial safes in the US. When you buy a Liberty Safe you will receive Liberty’s #1 rated lifetime warranty. If your safe is ever subject to an attempted break-in, or fire, Liberty Safe will repair, or replace, your safe for free!
    Liberty Safe and Security Products, Inc.
    1199 West Utah Avenue
    Payson, Utah 84651
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Komentáře • 164

  • @gabmar7293
    @gabmar7293 Před 5 lety +88

    I was skeptical until I heard him said that they promised to try really hard on the Liberty safe. I’m sold.

    • @FPS_Bang
      @FPS_Bang Před 3 lety +7

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @fia8079
      @fia8079 Před 2 lety

      Sold ? Just because they didn't open it in the time of 5 minutes didn't mean shit !! They were able to get the crowbar in duhhh any thief is gonna get in either way just with a bit more time. We were robbed by the thief torching the door off on one safe and another they drilled a hole in the dial which they didn't open but ruined it and now we need to open it somehow !!! NOW INSTEAD WILL GET RID OF THE GUNS ALL TOGETHER !!! WASTE OF OUR GOOD HARD EARNED MONEY !!!

    • @bluegrasskid4835
      @bluegrasskid4835 Před 2 lety +2

      Lol

  • @Bo-bl5if
    @Bo-bl5if Před 7 lety +114

    i noticed when they 1st started on the liberty the bottom corner was starting to give and they immediately moved to the middle and started slipping like people trying to sell you something on an infomercial do.

    • @dadoody
      @dadoody Před 3 lety +2

      The dudes are also tired as fuck haha

    • @RedShiftedDollar
      @RedShiftedDollar Před 3 lety +3

      Notice that they cut the camera. They basically teleported to the middle during second 13 of the counter at 3:50. Although to me it looks like the reason they moved was because they couldn't get the wedge into the gap so they decided to move up after trying for a while. Even though it lifted a little, the gap was too tight and they couldn't get underneath for a really good pry. It actually looked like they tried harder on the Liberty. They were putting some serious force into it and were visibly exhausted at the end.

    • @subradiant_music
      @subradiant_music Před 3 lety

      Haha they did move lol

  • @DevilDog3330
    @DevilDog3330 Před 8 lety +27

    Just a note for those who are whining about how a minute or two longer and they would have gotten into the safe; all safes can be opened with enough time. Many extremely high-cost safes, such as safes the government and military use for locking up firearms or secure documents, are rated by how long it will take for them to be accessed. The actual safe says it can withstand "X" minutes or hours of serious penetration attacks. No matter how much you spend, enough time will mean the safe is open. The goal is to make it take too long to be worth doing so. Just bolting the safe down will add a lot of time for penetrating the safe.

    • @beebob1279
      @beebob1279 Před 3 lety +1

      Bolting them down is key. If they can't tip it over then they lose leverage. If it's not bolted down they can just jack it up and take it out the door.

    • @bluegrasskid4835
      @bluegrasskid4835 Před 2 lety +1

      @@beebob1279 Also, if a safe cannot be tipped over, the two thieves cannot work together as effectively because they will constantly get in each other's way.

    • @murumariesattigit9783
      @murumariesattigit9783 Před rokem

      It all depends on the price. The large door gap put me off from this safe instantly.

    • @m.f.m.67
      @m.f.m.67 Před 3 měsíci

      @@murumariesattigit9783 Yep, look at the door on a Graffunder safe. Door gap so tight you can't even insert a credit card. Of course, they cost 3 times as much as a Liberty, but nobody is getting in without a cutting torch.

  • @cbr6864
    @cbr6864 Před 8 lety +7

    I have the same safe in the video but with mechanical dial. What I like about it is that it is made in the USA, does not hide the type of metal used and has a decent fire rating. Now to all those complaining it's a low cost safe so don't expect bank vault security. But if you look at actual crime stats most break ins are smash and grab. If you secure the safe to the floor and wall in a small closet it will defeat almost all would be thieves. It's not the movies guys don't come armed with cutting torches. Most usually only use a very small pry bar if that. When it comes to safes unless you are spending $2500 and up there is not a huge difference in materials used.

  • @HuntsvilleHunter
    @HuntsvilleHunter Před 9 lety +10

    Just purchased the Liberty Revolution and I am quite pleased. I think we all need to remember it's an "entry level" safe...not Fort Knox...for the price I paid, it keeps my kids out and a burglar would definitely think twice...not to mention I bolted it to the foundation :-)

  • @na2305
    @na2305 Před rokem +2

    This also shows the importance of having a safe bolted down. Its harder to pry in an upright position (less leverage). Having a safe bolted down with the side of the door that opens next to a wall helps,, too. (Restricts motion of travel of prybars). Great video.

  • @stevehansen1701
    @stevehansen1701 Před 5 lety +9

    Bolt your safe to the floor and/or the wall studs and place your safe in a closet. Less chance to get any leverage to pry it open.

  • @RN25899
    @RN25899 Před 2 lety +4

    Please remember that if someone wants in, then they'll find a way to get in. A safe is just your best effort to secure things that are important and valuable to you...so buy quality and bolt it down as best as you can. Notice how it takes 2 grown men to get it to open...but how they also need to lay it down to get the downward leverage they need.

  • @mrelectron6220
    @mrelectron6220 Před 7 lety +61

    What I find amazing is how the company who is sponsoring the test safes always does the best. I'd really like to see an independent group do the test this way there is no conflict of interest or least the appearance of it. Sorry I'm just been around too long and skeptical of what I see.

    • @liberty9348
      @liberty9348 Před 3 lety +4

      There are plenty of videos on youtube doing just that. And all the safes fail equally. Bottom line is they don't have a rating. They have very thin metal construction and any decent angle grinder will make short work of them. The DOOR is typically the strongest part of any safe... that's where most of the engineering and tech goes to. With the angle grinder, you can literally cut open the entire side or back of these type safes in seconds.... they're a joke. Understanding safe RATINGS is probably the best thing for anyone looking to get a real safe.

    • @RDROff
      @RDROff Před 2 lety +1

      This already exists. It's called the Underwriter Laboratories, or UL, and they have a series of intense attack tests they perform on safes. Most gun safes are not constructed to survive the UL tooled attack tests, as most gun safes are designed to give the appearance of security more than they are to actually provide security. A lot of gun safe makers will have their safes certified by the UL for what is called the RSC-I or Residential Security Container Level I rating. This, however, more or less says it is a locking box, as this particular attack is a single person attack with small hand tools. The first rating that signifies a safe with actual grit is the RSC Level II, and this is a relatively newer rating. Unlike RSC-I, the attack test used for RSC-II is quite intense, and similar to the UL's attack test used to certify mid-high-security tool-resistant safes (e.g. TL-15, TL-30, TL-15x6, TL-30x6).

    • @gregmf9427
      @gregmf9427 Před rokem +1

      They didn’t do the same process on the liberty as they did with the other two. Give me a hand held 10” cutting blade and I’d be in the side of there in less than 10 minutes

    • @brianwhite9015
      @brianwhite9015 Před rokem

      @GregMF well then I'll be getting what I paid for since the safe is rated and UL certified to withstand an attack by one man with hand tools for 5 minutes.

  • @photiospantzos8395
    @photiospantzos8395 Před 8 lety +40

    Just like shot placement is key in how you stop a bad guy with your gun, Its the same concept for a safe.
    1. Bolt it down. that defeats smash and grab if they cant haul it away quickly. And defeats all those videos where they knock the safe on its back to work on it and open it in minutes.
    2. Don't expose the sides which are the weakness of affordable safes. Put it in a closet, of better yet, do what i did. Basement. Corner where two sides are up against thick foundation walls and then build a wall on the exposed side. Only way to a BOLTED DOWN safe is the front door which is the hardest to defeat if you cant get leverage with prying tools. Even sawsaw and angle grinders will need a lot more time to defeat the door than cutting the thin single wall of the sides.
    4. you did invest in an alarm system for your home, right? No time for that burglar to even THINK of cutting open the safe. He's a man in a hurry and that clock is ticking to the cops arriving.
    5. I have dogs. Good luck trying to get to my alarm fast enough to disable it with two cocker spaniels tripping you up and biting you as you try to beat the dialer on the alarm before it summons help.
    Did you cut the phone lines? pffft! too bad its a cellular link. Get to the breaker box? It has battery backup.
    Get my drift? don't spend thousands on the safe. Layer your security. Be smart. then any safe will do the job.
    I still opted for a Liberty Franklin for the warranty and support and the fact that its MADE in the USA. The fire rating of over an hour is more than meets my requirement. If It burns or gets damaged by a thief who tries his luck at quickly prying to see if he can get in in a hurry. I get a new one.
    Hope this helps.

    • @NLINE7
      @NLINE7 Před 5 lety +1

      Ok Photios Pantzos don't beat around the bush, tell us what's on your mind lol. Good post, I'm looking at getting a Liberty safe soon.

    • @suburbanhobbyist2752
      @suburbanhobbyist2752 Před 4 lety +2

      Nothing is fool proof and nothing is unbeatable but buying a good safe is always a great idea. Even if you put it in a corner and everything else, that door is exposed and a good safe is the only option if you really want to delay a theft. Out of everything you said the one thing that jumped out at me, and the one thing that is probably more useful than all the rest, is your dogs and the fact they are small. Small dogs are only good for the bark they provide and even that is less useful than larger dogs because people are used to hearing cocker spaniels etc bark all the time. It is what they do even if yours don't do it people expect it and pay little attention to them. Your cocker spaniels would most likely be kicked across the room/killed in an actual robbery so I think you are a bit optimistic at the security they provide. I always tell people that having dogs are your best home security option but try and have at least one large intimidating/capable dog like a German Shephard, Pitbull, Mastif, Rotty etc. People pay attention to their barks and thieves are worried they can't guard against an attack by them (because they can't really) so they are as much a deterrent than anything else.

    • @drsudz
      @drsudz Před 4 lety +2

      Woah! Did you say "cocker spaniels"? I didn't think those dogs were even legal to own in the US? Way too dangerous and hard to control.

  • @alessioiacovoni9487
    @alessioiacovoni9487 Před 7 lety +33

    The two guys with prybars should take some acting courses... you can clearly see that they are faking the attack with the last safe (liberty). On the other 2 they focused the attack on the same corner until 1 bar broke up and then moved up to the following. In the last one they are doing random attacks, effectively distributing the surface on all the door and not focusing strength on one point...

    • @alessioiacovoni9487
      @alessioiacovoni9487 Před 6 lety +2

      Force is not everything.. you can clearly see in the previous two safes that they are not just using force but using it with intelligence. They follow a technique... (1) the smaller pry bar makes its way into the crack leaving space for the larger one, (2) only one bolt is attacked at a time, when it breaks they pass on to the next one. On the third safe, on the contrary, they seem to be proceeding randomly.

  • @studinthemaking
    @studinthemaking Před 9 lety +13

    I am sure after 5 minutes the bad guys will quit and go home for the day. Every time!

  • @TheBeertruck85
    @TheBeertruck85 Před 8 lety +18

    some of these comments....
    I don't care what safe you own, you're buying time. Plasma cutters will get through anything. 99% of all thefts are smash and grabs. A safe like this one will do the job 99% of the time.
    Thats why you beef up your other defenses. Alarms, guard dogs etc.
    Your average middle class gun owner will not need more than this.

    • @Gabriel-x2y
      @Gabriel-x2y Před 7 lety

      the point here is bolt the goddam thing to the ground and build around so the side is not essay to access and pay for a good alarm. the safe is to slow the thief while cop are on the way!

    • @ShinerBockGirlz
      @ShinerBockGirlz Před 5 lety +1

      I usually carry a small tactical nuke when i break into safes...sad these safes are too easy to crack into....

    • @jeffstrains4014
      @jeffstrains4014 Před 4 lety

      @@ShinerBockGirlz Get a pattern enhancer and just teleport the things out saves a lot of hassle lol

  • @collinbienvenu2915
    @collinbienvenu2915 Před 8 lety +21

    pardon me for saying but it seemed like a few more minutes on the last one and it would have opened

    • @dawjy9413
      @dawjy9413 Před 3 lety +1

      they weren't trying...you could tell when they were missing the gap with the bars

    • @beebob1279
      @beebob1279 Před 3 lety

      @@dawjy9413 Tighter gap on the door and the frame.

  • @arbhall7572
    @arbhall7572 Před 8 lety +4

    I would like to see if the safe opens after the pry test. Assuming its protected the weapons inside and the robbers give up, can the owner of the safe enter the combination and open it?

  • @Michael-vf5id
    @Michael-vf5id Před rokem +1

    Those 2 guys are amazing actors they should get a grammy lol. To be honest a simple angle grinder and someone would be in.

  • @j.walker3498
    @j.walker3498 Před 2 lety

    How does it hold up to a cordless grinder with cutoff wheels?

  • @bill8582
    @bill8582 Před 2 lety +1

    Looks like a good safe, I mean unless you are going to spend 10,000 on a custom made safe, which can also be broken into, just takes longer. I think that Liberty should make the gaps closer though, tighter the fit, harder to get a bar in it, in the first place. Nothing beats solid thicker steel though.

  • @Tech_-on1ou
    @Tech_-on1ou Před 3 lety +5

    In fairness, safes would typically be anchored down to the ground, so laying them down to get that extra leverage is kinda cheating. Also the locations of safes are typically inside of closets and in the corner, so a lot of spots will have a wall where they would need to pry.

  • @gswguy4554
    @gswguy4554 Před rokem +2

    Also depends on gauge of steel
    (thickness)…. These safes are probably 14 gauge which is easiest to pry… 10 gauge is 4 x’s stronger? I’d rather have 10 gauge with roll bars than 14 gauge and military bars.

  • @joehiding160
    @joehiding160 Před 3 lety +3

    A good grinder makes these safes very easy to get to, although your average thief isn't going to even take the time to do that.

  • @proverman
    @proverman Před 3 lety +1

    Mine is is bolted to my slab in basement so there’s no tipping it over.

  • @sendit1158
    @sendit1158 Před 3 lety

    You get splitting axes and sledgehammers n pound the axe heads into the door grove and it forces the wall out and the pins pop right open, under 2 min from experience, ya these might keep someone out for a lil longer if they use pry bars but axe heads are the best, it wedges em open

  • @chublez
    @chublez Před 7 lety +3

    Neat test. I think it would have been better to let them work it open and have a solid number for how much longer or x times better yours was for the price. When they stopped at 5 minutes it looked like they where seconds from opening the door...but if you let them continue it may have taken another 2 or 3 minutes. Point is I think it would look more honest in a manufacture sponsor test to let them finish the job and openly admit "hey you can get in our safe if its not bolted down with space to work in 6:27 a best in class protection time and a great value".

  • @murdadock
    @murdadock Před 2 lety

    “Military style locking bars” LOL. Umpteen years working in military armory’s and never seen a “locking bar”

  • @kevtop351
    @kevtop351 Před 7 lety

    I find it odd that there are no videos of any safes that are bolted down being attacked with pry bars.

  • @UOYtaLOL
    @UOYtaLOL Před 9 lety

    angle grinder? most safes aren't that thick on the sides. I've seen angle grinders make short work of steel.

  • @jonathanlee6444
    @jonathanlee6444 Před rokem

    i want to see this test of the safes standing upright

  • @MONEYBAGS603
    @MONEYBAGS603 Před 7 lety +5

    if you bolt it to the floor next to a wall they will have no leverage to open the safe

  • @easternmikeoutdoors
    @easternmikeoutdoors Před 4 lety +1

    Bolted to floor and wall studs the Liberty safes are hard to pry. I tried mine and almost pulled my shoulder out.

    • @liberty9348
      @liberty9348 Před 3 lety

      If a person knows what they are doing, they attack the weakest part of a safe, prying is not the way. Angle grinder will cut open the side or back in seconds. Even Liberty's "Presidential" safe which is their best...... has NO RATING listed on their website. It's amazing that people buy this safe for THOUSANDS of dollars. I bought a TR-30 rated safe for under 2 grand. If you dropped my safe on the Liberty Presidential model... mine would literally crush it flat LOL. Will Liberty safe's stop a standard criminal... probably. Will it stop anyone who knows anything about safes.... not a chance. Even my safe will only last 30 minutes under attacks from torches and grinding tools.

  • @rockeybalboa4960
    @rockeybalboa4960 Před 8 lety

    ok, i have a legitimate question. Liberty please answer. This is one of the most common questions I here all the time and am curious about myself. If these military bars are better, why not include them on the revere and higher safes. The revere have traditional bolts, do y our anti pry tabs make up for this? And if the bars are better, i dont understand why you would charge more for less, being bars for bolts on higher priced models.

    • @rockeybalboa4960
      @rockeybalboa4960 Před 7 lety

      ok thank you

    • @donaldcampbell7894
      @donaldcampbell7894 Před 4 lety

      Because it's a sales pitch. Military style. Really??? They just want it to sound secure while it is nothing more than a piece of mild steel. It's a way of getting more money. The same way our government gets more money out of a budget by allocating funds for hexagonal graphite recording devices. They would not get as much money if they just said they needed pencils. Food for thought.

  • @hkp20009mm
    @hkp20009mm Před 8 lety

    how does the revolution series compare to the cabelas provault 24?

    • @paynemountain
      @paynemountain Před 8 lety

      +Josh Saintz They are the Same Safe, built to the same specs in the same factory by Liberty.

    • @masterofnone603
      @masterofnone603 Před 7 lety

      The Liberty Centurion is the exact same as the Cabela"s Provault series...

  • @Spartan536
    @Spartan536 Před 7 lety +4

    I wonder why Liberty, Fort Knox, American Security, and Superior have not done a direct head to head with their mid range $3000 USD safes?

    • @beebob1279
      @beebob1279 Před 3 lety +1

      Gun safes, the truth. Weapons education. It's a youtube video. This guy knows his safes.

    • @Spartan536
      @Spartan536 Před 3 lety

      @@beebob1279 uuuhhh yeah about that.... he contradicts himself in his second video.
      I personally spoke with Kirk from the first video (CE Safes) as well as Tony from the second video VaultPro. Both of those individuals are the experts in those vidoes and neither of them do direct business with Weapons Education due to legal issues.
      BTW Vault Pro makes some seriously impressive safes and they are all hand made here in the USA, top quality stuff. CE Safes has lots of different price points in their inventory and some quality safes as well.

  • @johnnybbgunner2136
    @johnnybbgunner2136 Před rokem

    And they use a small Liberty. The bigger models are even stronger.🇺🇸

  • @JH-kh9lf
    @JH-kh9lf Před 3 lety

    Could those men do that if the safe was upright?

  • @deerhunter5305
    @deerhunter5305 Před rokem

    Steelwater safes seem to be pretty good

  • @CountryboyBOB
    @CountryboyBOB Před 2 lety

    Just got one I know their cheap and provide limited security from professional thieves but with the flat locking bars and bolted to the floor it’s gonna slow the thieves down.

  • @mrPauljacob
    @mrPauljacob Před 5 lety

    Good luck even pushing my safe over.. And most safes have locking lugs all the way around the entire door

  • @texasstadium
    @texasstadium Před 3 lety

    I'm thinking about buying a lower end Liberty Safe in the $700 range. I believe the safe will keep my grandkids out and hopefully delay a burglar. I think you have to couple the safe with a good security system and good homeowner insurance. Also weight the safe down so it cannot be easily carried off to a waiting truck for future demolition. Think lead weight.

    • @bensmith4563
      @bensmith4563 Před 3 lety

      You bolt it down

    • @texasstadium
      @texasstadium Před 3 lety

      @@bensmith4563 Can't do it with a post tension slab unless you hire someone with a detector to determine where the tension hardware is located in the slab. Also, most bolted safes can be pried out of the concrete. Powers wedge bolts resist prying the best. The best we can hope for is delaying a safe attack. If a burglar has time, any safe installation will be defeated. Best if the safe is not visible at all. I've been through all this.

  • @beebob1279
    @beebob1279 Před 3 lety

    the big deterrent is, out of sight out of mind. Don't advertise to people that you have a safe in the house either. It's amazing how much information is spilled just in casual conversation.
    Also, bolt that sucker down. don't make it easy for the thief if they actually have bars to pry it open.

  • @dukeman7595
    @dukeman7595 Před 8 lety +3

    Most of the comments are a little ridicules, as any safe of the caliber of those tested can be opened. However, even a cheap
    safe bolted down inside a closet with limited access will be very hard to defeat..

  • @corbindallasmulti
    @corbindallasmulti Před 9 lety +9

    I want to see a fire axe attack on your safe. Pry attacks are not the only way to break in. If the body material is not think enough, a few swings from a heady duty axe will go straight through.

    • @subradiant_music
      @subradiant_music Před 3 lety

      Not on all safes. It depends if they are filled with clay or compressed cement. Most cheapo's are filled with clay

  • @xcvsdxvsx
    @xcvsdxvsx Před 8 lety

    But will it blend?

  • @ktmdays
    @ktmdays Před 3 lety

    They get rid of the bolts after I buy my liberty safe

  • @justinfrasz104
    @justinfrasz104 Před 2 lety

    They started in the middle instead of the corner and moved around a lot more, not concentrating on one location.

  • @HelloWorld-zg3gs
    @HelloWorld-zg3gs Před 3 lety +3

    I'm confident that my safe is protected if 2 big strong engineers can't get in.

  • @hammond2600
    @hammond2600 Před 6 lety

    I see a few flaws in your pry test. First of all, most people that have a gun safe, have it bolted to the floor or wall or both so, there would be no tipping it over to get more leverage. 2.........if you're like me, you have it tucked in the back of a closet and the open side is near a wall so that the door has plenty of clearance when you swing it open. So again, no room for a pry bar.

  • @Airgunner-uu1pz
    @Airgunner-uu1pz Před 3 lety

    If anybody knows anything, a safe is just a safe and anyone of them CAN be broken into. The most important thing with a safe to make it more secure is the LOCATION! A damn good bolted down safe with the door facing the PROPER DIRECTION creates a ton more difficulties for the criminal!

  • @jeffstrains4014
    @jeffstrains4014 Před 4 lety

    Nice! you guys run Trumpfs! Good machines not so fun to work on lol

  • @CMS069
    @CMS069 Před rokem

    Gun safe companies need to do some thing about the side.
    Someone with an angle grinder is getting through, normally not bothering with the front of the door

    • @googoo-gjoob
      @googoo-gjoob Před rokem

      gun safe companies HAVE done something about the sides..... but most dont want to pay for thicker steel, and multiple layers of steel.
      im looking at a HOMELAND safe which as 7 gauge steel body. they even make 4 gauge!

  • @callsign_hazard1941
    @callsign_hazard1941 Před 4 lety +1

    Umm they got that liberty safe open if you watch carefully the top was off, one or two minutes they would of got in, by the way that safe landed it sounded like cheap steel so a power saw would do the trick.

    • @Dragonfly5280
      @Dragonfly5280 Před 3 lety +1

      It is cheap steel. Even the $2k+ Liberty safes are only 11ga steel (the cheap ones are 12ga) Stack two pennies and that's how thin the steel is for the body.

    • @callsign_hazard1941
      @callsign_hazard1941 Před 3 lety

      Dragonfly5280 thats nuts

  • @bluegrasskid4835
    @bluegrasskid4835 Před 2 lety

    Will like to see a video like this where the safe is bolted to the floor and can't be tipped over.

  • @mbcoll8154
    @mbcoll8154 Před 6 lety +5

    Just buy dozens of safes and THAT becomes an investment in itself and confounds Mr Robber looking for the goodies.

    • @beebob1279
      @beebob1279 Před 3 lety

      And have the ones in plain sight filled with sand.

  • @studinthemaking
    @studinthemaking Před 9 lety +7

    So all I need to open your safe is two 4 foot long pry pars, and ten minutes of work. Sounds like you guys need to make a better safe

    • @robertbrangan9193
      @robertbrangan9193 Před 8 lety +5

      +studinthemaking It's pretty clear that you have no idea what you're talking about

    • @trottheblackdog
      @trottheblackdog Před 8 lety +3

      +studinthemaking Think like a bad guy who doesn't know if the homeowner will be home soon or not. He wants to crack that thing open ASAP and put all the contents in his truck and get out. Any safe that takes longer than 30 seconds.. or is bolted to the floor, will immediately send him down the street to an easier target

    • @Meatwaggon
      @Meatwaggon Před 8 lety +2

      +studinthemaking I think if it was a 6 minute test, all three safes would have failed....

  • @dadoody
    @dadoody Před 3 lety +1

    Buy yeah, a safe in a room with cameras, alarms, and you with a 1911 makes it more secure.

  • @MaryJane-bi6et
    @MaryJane-bi6et Před 2 lety

    The difference is the liberty has military style locking bars not that cheap little bolt pin

  • @texpatriot8462
    @texpatriot8462 Před 8 lety

    Is the Centurian the Revolution?

  • @armedrealtorakasheepdog6914

    They should have just either A, put a rare earth magnet on front to pop the electronic solenoid or B pushed it on the front and worked on the back... that back will open up like a tin can. That is why you bolt them to the floor when you get it home.

    • @libertysafeinc
      @libertysafeinc  Před 4 lety +1

      Neither of those options will work with our safes. You can use the magnet trick on cheap imported safes but not on ours.

    • @armedrealtorakasheepdog6914
      @armedrealtorakasheepdog6914 Před 4 lety

      Liberty Safe & Security Products Good to know...

  • @MarcosMendezJ
    @MarcosMendezJ Před 8 lety +14

    ok now lets put them in a closet with with barely any room bolted to the ground. the way normal people have there safes

  • @ranchoelbamboo4068
    @ranchoelbamboo4068 Před 3 lety +1

    They are tired by the time they get to the third one.

  • @johnnybbgunner2136
    @johnnybbgunner2136 Před rokem

    My Liberty is bolted down to the concrete foundation making it impossible for a thief to lay down my safe and pry it open.🇺🇸

  • @steimystein4368
    @steimystein4368 Před 4 lety

    Because everyone lays a safe on it's back to break into it.
    Try some real world tests where the safe is bolted to the floor and wall, where you have no room for long pry bars.

    • @libertysafeinc
      @libertysafeinc  Před 4 lety

      True, it is much harder to pry a safe bolted to the floor. We tell all our customers to bolt down your safe. Surprisingly, many do not.

  • @smokinC5
    @smokinC5 Před 8 lety +1

    bolt your safe down people! notice how all of them were on their backs. put it in a closet and bolt it down....now try prying. cant get as much leverage. liberty did best....but any safe is vulnerable on its back.

  • @corycaputo6410
    @corycaputo6410 Před 3 lety +1

    Why not pry on hinge side ? It has less bars . Now go :)

    • @enmiredbythelazy4401
      @enmiredbythelazy4401 Před 3 lety

      On the ones I've looked at, the bars are equal, including Liberty. They're fixed bars rather than sliders. Because of the hinge it would actually take longer to pry from that side.

  • @jwahrenburgrhahvac4107
    @jwahrenburgrhahvac4107 Před 3 lety +1

    So the guy that was really good at prying suddenly sucked when he got to the liberty safe, also they did not stay focused on 1 corner like they did on the 1st two, so in my opinion they tainted this entire test.

  • @billygoat1708
    @billygoat1708 Před 2 lety

    All these gun safes can be broken into. I have bought some "real" safes and converted them to gun safes. The gap around the door is less than 1/32 of an inch and no pry bar is getting in there.

  • @caseymaples19xx
    @caseymaples19xx Před 8 lety

    Hey liberty I'll put my cheap safe up against yours if you will replace mine with a nice new liberty that i can improve check out the video of my stack on

  • @KZ-wk4xb
    @KZ-wk4xb Před 2 lety

    They had that corner up in 18secs then stopped trying. If your safe isn't Rated TL-15 or better it's not a safe its fancy cabinet with a dial.

  • @johnsmith-by3yg
    @johnsmith-by3yg Před 2 lety

    old liberty safes same as the others.

  • @ermac29828
    @ermac29828 Před 6 lety

    Sure hope you bolt this light "safe" down....its easier to take out then to break in. A entry level RSC....not a safe. Just make sure you know the difference. Makes me cringe how easily that 12G steel flexes.

  • @atexc5604
    @atexc5604 Před rokem

    They are not safes, but steel cabinets. 3mm of steel and few layers of drywall are securing your stuff only from fire. Even for small angle grinder it's under a minute to cut that "safe" in half. For me something called "safe" must have at least 2 layers of steel (8mm + 3mm on door, and 5mm + 3mm on walls) and at least 40-50mm of reinforced concrete between layers of steel. IDK what American law describes as safe, but most of it is not safe at all.

  • @thetacticalaccountant
    @thetacticalaccountant Před 3 lety

    Cordless circle saw and maybe an extra battery would make quick work of the side of that cabinet. Pry tests are BS why would you go the hardest possible route to get into a “safe”. The shell is probably at most 1/8” steel, with dry wall and carpet on the inside.

  • @billjames4771
    @billjames4771 Před 2 lety

    The 1st safe was so light weight that the had to hold it down while prying on it.

  • @cedrickmcdonald5038
    @cedrickmcdonald5038 Před 3 lety

    A regular criminal go most likely catch more hell trying to opening a safe if they have a crow bar. Even if you just have a gun cabin yeah it can be broke into much easier but by the time they try to get the guns and stuff , hell the metal still go give them hell with trying to bending and opening the dam lock. They will be seen or caught.

  • @oldschool3484
    @oldschool3484 Před rokem

    Just cut through the side..

  • @billfast
    @billfast Před 6 lety

    If it's not bolted to the floor just take it with you.

    • @mrPauljacob
      @mrPauljacob Před 5 lety

      Mine weighs about 1000 pounds

    • @popsncracks9108
      @popsncracks9108 Před 3 lety

      Frank The Rabbit I had 1600lbs safe someone stole from my bedroom.

  • @Jamestfarrell
    @Jamestfarrell Před 2 lety

    I would have used a hand truck to roll it out to the trunk of my Hyundai Excel.

  • @robinmacomber9572
    @robinmacomber9572 Před 4 lety

    lol. you guys get to keep your jobs.

  • @AdrianDucao
    @AdrianDucao Před 7 lety

    Made in U.S.A.

  • @sizzlechest3870
    @sizzlechest3870 Před 3 lety

    Beer can

  • @d.j.9961
    @d.j.9961 Před 7 lety +9

    BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT ANYONE TRUELLY TRYING TO GET IN A SAFE WOULD USE A GRINDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @subradiant_music
      @subradiant_music Před 3 lety +1

      Or a plasma torch but than you risk damaging what is inside

    • @enmiredbythelazy4401
      @enmiredbythelazy4401 Před 3 lety

      @@subradiant_music This was my thought after looking at these safes. I think with the right technique you could avoid doing to much damage to the rifles, but then I got to wondering if a 120v plasma would manage it if you had it bolted down and they had to work inside. Not many people have 240 in the closet :)

  • @fakerfake1
    @fakerfake1 Před rokem

    Boy if a safe only takes 5 minutes of prying, it’s not much of a safe. Just because it didn’t open in this test, doesn’t mean it’s a good safe. I want mine to take more than a couple hours not a less then ten minutes. Best way to avoid this is to get a safe with little to no door gap (see Graffunder, Brown, and American Security), as well as to bolt it down so it can’t be pushed over. It will always be harder to pry standing up. Overall this made me even less likely to buy a Liberty. Also, if you have the money, purchase a safe with a TL rating NOT an RSC rating.

  • @jwedgest67
    @jwedgest67 Před 3 lety

    Watch the video again and watch how the guy in the gray shirt tackles and prys open the first two safes, watch the angle of his crowbar then when he gets to the liberty safe watch the angles of his crowbar!! a bit different I would say!! this is fake, they could have gotten into that liberty safe just as easy!!

  • @Dragonfly5280
    @Dragonfly5280 Před 3 lety

    Thieves don't even need to use the lower power battery powered grinders... Most people have a plug within 10 ft of their safe. A multi-purpose blade in a circular saw would take the whole front of the safe off in less than 10 minutes.

  • @LifeInSpace
    @LifeInSpace Před 7 lety

    Nice try. Go through the side with a cheap electric saw. Of course all the 'armor' is on the front door. Go through the side or back.

    • @rajvader
      @rajvader Před 7 lety

      Better hope you're not sending a shower of sparks from your electric saw into a stockpile of gunpowder stored in the safe (to protect it from humidity and house fires)...

  • @brianwhite9015
    @brianwhite9015 Před rokem

    This test was actually impressive because the Liberty safe is UL rated at level 1 security which means it is tested to survive for 5 minutes minimum against attacks by ONE MAN with tools. In this test, it survived more than 5 minutes with attacks by TWO MEN with tools, which puts it actually closer to Security level 2.

    • @tangoESPECIAL
      @tangoESPECIAL Před 7 měsíci

      I don’t think that liberty safe is UL rated as RSC…. That requires 12 gauge steel body

  • @QuietStormX
    @QuietStormX Před 4 lety

    But a Cheap and Hollow From Door too.. 🤬👎😡

  • @alexanderjones9766
    @alexanderjones9766 Před 3 lety

    Real criminals won't use prybars. They will use a concrete saw which will open any Liberty safe in a few minutes. Get at least a TL-30x6 safe if you want security.

  • @reelnative01
    @reelnative01 Před 5 lety

    What a joke they didn’t want to work on that bottom corner, that safe sucks did you notice how the side wall was crushing and they stopped prying on it when it started to open it makes you know they are liers

  • @chadwicked1
    @chadwicked1 Před 2 lety

    They did the hardest one last obviously it will take longest maybe try 3 teams one for each duhhh very poor experiment

  • @ShawnaGraham50
    @ShawnaGraham50 Před 9 lety

    Hmm If I was going into a house a cheap torch would get into this in no time. Nice exposed hinges you got there.

    • @smokinC5
      @smokinC5 Před 8 lety +1

      safes dont work on hinge security....hinges on the outside allow for full opening. interior hinges allow for only 90 degrees of opening. slice off the hinges and its still locked.

    • @MrCadinn
      @MrCadinn Před 7 lety

      Shawna Graham dumbass

  • @Jonb173
    @Jonb173 Před 6 lety +3

    Most thieves are lazy and don’t want to put in all that effort

  • @Jimbo-hh8bk
    @Jimbo-hh8bk Před 5 lety +1

    LMFAO this is more of an AD than an “independent” test. Such bs! This was totally defeatable.
    *conflict of interest* why would workers/employees of THEIR own company actually try and defeat their own product. I wouldn’t, and they sure didn’t (intentionally)

    • @libertysafeinc
      @libertysafeinc  Před 5 lety

      Hi thanks for watching. The same force and "try" was used in all examples. We did not; not would we, go "easy" on a Liberty Safe vs. a competitors.

  • @c.l.h5717
    @c.l.h5717 Před 5 lety +1

    Hahaha.. That last test was soooo fake...

  • @joeytomato
    @joeytomato Před 2 lety

    This was a cringe moment if there ever was one...

  • @denmark2798
    @denmark2798 Před 2 lety

    now put those cheap safes in a small closet with walls in the way and bolted to the ground and try the pry test again.

  • @loudmouth_racing1991
    @loudmouth_racing1991 Před 6 lety

    Dont test vs a sturdy safe lol better stick with the cheap bimart junk.

  • @dunnoyolo2238
    @dunnoyolo2238 Před rokem +1

    Or just use a cordless grinder 😅

  • @keltingr2612
    @keltingr2612 Před 7 lety +3

    i noticed when they 1st started on the liberty the bottom corner was starting to give and they immediately moved to the middle and started slipping like people trying to sell you something on an infomercial do.