The 3 BIGGEST Slow Speed Motorcycle Riding Mistakes
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- čas přidán 28. 10. 2021
- If you are having trouble controlling your motorcycle at slow speeds you are likely guilty of one or maybe all of these three common rider errors at slow speed.
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I'm 71 years old, been riding since I was 14. Never to old to learn. Thanks for the great info.
Thanks!😎
I'm 78 and could not agree with you more.
I rode for several years on a permit, just renewed it every year. Finally, the law was changed so you HAD to get a motorcycle license after one year on a permit. My first time, I failed the road test by missing or over shooting too many of the markers. Also, it was a HOT July afternoon and the instructor made it clear she was irritated to be out in the heat. That made me nervous. A contributing factor was I didn't practice on the course beforehand. The second time, I practiced on the course the day before and the really big difference was I used the friction zone on the clutch and the rear brakes to regulate my speed. I aced the course and the instructor (a different one) said it was a pleasure to finally see someone complete the test with no marks against them. I attribute my success in passing to the techniques you are promoting. Thank you Kevin, for making a difference!
Congratulations! Perfect practice makes perfect.
Keep practicing those skills and keep em sharp and you’ll be alright.
was it really hot outside the 2nd time around?
my opinion, you were failing the first time even before you started. Because the instructor did not want to be there and you were forcing her to be, so you were going to pay for that, by her failing you.
I never took a road test. Not once. But I have been to several riding classes.
Taking the new riders class a few years ago I didn't understand the friction zone because if you did that in a car you'd burn the clutch out in no time. It wasn't until the instructor told me the motorcycle has a "wet clutch" that I realized a bike clutch isn't like a car and that's when it started to click for me.
True, with the exception of those motorcycles that have dry clutches..
That's exactly what I was thinking. Like, how does this not burn your clutch?
My Moto Guzzi has a dry clutch. No problems.
I'm a motor officer, here's some tips from going through motor school:
Try NOT using ANY brakes. My motor school was a no-brake school, meaning all test patterns (besides the higher speed ones where you need to come to a stop) need to be done with no brakes at all, clutch and throttle only. This forces you to have really good clutch and throttle control. What I would do is find my friction zone, set my throttle, and only regulate my speed with my clutch. If I needed a little more speed, let out the clutch a little, if I needed to slow down, suck it in a little. I'm talking millimeters. If I felt I needed a little more throttle, do it right as you begin a turn.
Try full-lock turns from a stop. If you're making a left turn, keep left leg on the peg. If you're making a right, keep right leg on the peg. Don't want to keep the foot down in which direction you're turning. Do entire circles full-lock, never letting the bars get away from full-lock. This is also using absolutely no brakes.
When you turn your head, look above the horizon. Also what seemed to help me, is consciously feel for your elbow to make contact with your side when you're making your turns. Hard to explain via text, but if you're making a left, I would think "head turn, elbow" and it would help me force my elbow to my side, which would make me do a full-lock turn.
That's all I can think of for now. I'm sleepy lol.
Thanks❤
I'd add that I see riders stare at a curb, a tree, whatever, keep looking at and they'll hit it everytime. Have the foresight to look away from danger
LOL this is so true, I did that ONCE: stared at a cattle trail rut that I wanted to avoid getting stuck in on a dirt bike, and you all know that's exactly what happened, and I went down. All in slo-mo and just in a field, but finally understood where not to look.
Yes, target fixation is a big problem, keep the head up.
It feels extremely unnatural to move your sensory organs for balance one way, then your body the other, this makes perfect sense.
Kevin, what some riders don't understand about the "friction zone" is how to keep a level of acceleration that works with the FZ. They let the motorcycle RPMs die and end up having to put their foot down for stabilization. More emphasis needs to be placed on the accelerator in combination with the FZ, imho. The CZcams channel, Paying it Forward, does a real good job with explaining the technique of acceleration, he calls it, "preloading" and it works. You, Motojitsu, Fortnine, and Paying it Forward, are my go-to resources for motorcycling. Thanks for the great job that you do to help keep us safe. Jesse
I am back to riding after a 62 year break [yes I am old] and enjoying every hour. I took my exam on my small 125CC bike with a semi auto clutch but because of your lessons I used the rear brake and had no problem. When my new 500 cc bike gets here I will have the clutch to add to my bag of techniques. Thanks for very informative lessons.
I'm 67 and been riding most my life. Just wondering, after a 62 year break, that makes you how old?
@@billmeyer7903 I have been out of town and just saw you question. I am 85 but in good health and active. I find riding very enjoyable. I am looking for something bigger that will be mote comfortable on the highway than the Super Cub I now have.
@@wayneberry811 RoyalEnfield Range...Faster enough for FUN SLOW ENOUGH for my reactions...And they have a soul too..
I'm guessing your 125cc was a Super Cub. I've got a 2019 Cub and I'm luvn it! I've also got big bikes, but for local putting, it's a blast!!
Bought a 790cc Triumph last week after being away from bikes close to 30 years. I am relearning a lot of things. I have been practicing a lot a slow speed, makes perfect sense.
Slow speed mastery is essential. Friction zone, head and eyes, feathering the rear brake.
i was doing everything wrong on my new honda nc750x. I used throttle but was wondering that it has too much power at low speeds between the cars and I used front brake. fortunately head and eyes were always in correct position, because it was the same on honda pcx for 50.000 km and this habbit stayed with me for good. In the car the friction zone is absolut no go, because it damages your clutch and then its very expensive to replace, but on bike is different philosophy.
I never get tired of hearing these techniques! They’re important to me. Thank You MC!
I would add, to turn your head to the extreme, lift your chin to clear your shoulder… especially if you wear a full face helmet… I strongly agree with practicing head turns while driving your auto… this greatly assisted me in developing the habit…
twist your shoulders with the handle bars
Absolutely agree with all of this. Once I figured out how to work the friction zone and drag the rear brake, slow speed maneuvers became easy. Find an empty parking lot and practice. Schools are great for this on weekends and over the summer. They usually don't mind, as long as you're not being a hooligan while you're there.
Also, church parking lots are good during the week. I'm not a churchgoer, but I like to leave a little offering taped to the door as a demonstration of my gratitude. ✌️
dragging the rear brake exaggerates the width of the friction zone, because you need the clutch to engage more to overcome the dragging brake
for some people it makes it easier to ride slow, but its not necessary
you dont need to practice in a parking lot - practice everytime you ride - when there is no one behind you slow down short of a stop then creep the bike up at 1mph the last few car lengths, feet on the pegs, head and eyes up, relaxed
or take corners slower than normal (again with no one on your tail)
and also practice your panic braking and swerving every time you ride, as long as you have the road to yourself
Thankfully when I started my driving life all we had was standard transmissions. I knew how to use a clutch. The only thing was to transfer that clutch "feel" from my foot to my hand. It didn't take long (minutes) to get used to the motorbike. I think the biggest issue now is most people only learn to drive with automatics. I still think everybody must take their driving test on a standard. Or it was that my dad was a hell of a lot better teacher that going to any course. Probably. I did learn from a military man that was capable of driving anything.
Hi Everyone. Just Fyi for all: I also learned that keep the speed up just a little during cornering. If you go too slow, the bike will want to fall over. So, keep the head and eyes focused on where you want to go, use the friction zone, drag that rear brake to stabilize the bike, and keep the speed at 5-10 mph. The speed helps keep the bike stable, and you can even adjust your body position to the 'outside' of the bike. This helps even more if the turn is a sharp one. Stay safe everyone! :-)
Hi, just got my licence in the UK at the age of 72 young. Videos on CZcams are great extra lessons and this one is at the top. Your explanation of theory can't be beaten. Thanks enormously for the video,
Great post. Just to add my 2 cents - since I got my Tenere 700 and have begun riding off road, I have found it even more important to be confident with both the friction zone on the clutch (off road we always have 2 fingers on the clutch constantly feathering it to slide the rear wheel or gain traction) and maneuvering at slow speeds - especially standing up on the pegs in soft stuff like sand and mud (talk about dropping your bike fast - sand is more unforgiving than asphalt!) - Having good fundamentals will help you in any type of riding you end up choosing.
Look where you want to go is the most surprising and effective thing! It consistently amazes me, how effective it actually is.
First off I want to say I love your channel.
I've been riding from a real early age and I'm still learning and I've been trying to help my wife of 30yrs how to handle low speed handling and how to control her bike in lose dirt and gravel better.
Now don't get me wrong she knows how to ride when I met her some 32yrs ago all she had was a motorcycle but me trying to teach and show her how to do it sometimes doesn't really pay off but now that I have found your page I think that she just might understand better on what I have been trying to teach her. And we just returned from a 1,460 mile round trip she did great but she still gets nervous around gravel and tight low speed turns so I shared your page with her and I think it's going to help out a lot.
Keep up the good work
Thank you Kevin, you put all the pieces together very clearly.
Thank Kevin. Just came back from my slow speed lesson here in France. I really struggled today. Perfect timing. I'll apply this next time.
Spot on advice as usual Kevin. You've prevented a few accidents with this. Thanks.
Thank you for these important reminders Kevin! Good stuff! 😊
Whilst teaching my wife basics years ago, she forgot the first thing I told her, "It's like riding a bicycle" When she got to the end of the driveway she remembered the brake & clutch, but forgot to put her foot down and tipped the bike over, breaking the mirror and clutch lever. It was like that clip on Laugh-in. The "friction zone" seemed very natural to me after driving/repairing multi-carbureted Porsches in the 70s; they'd stall under 1000 rpm
Appreciate your editing skills bump! You have evolved in this episode! Keep up the great updated look.
Much the same way... rode as a kid growing up for several years on a small bike. Didn't need the full motorcycle license then. It was 47 years before getting back in the saddle and buying a bigger bike, Honda Shadow 750... Glad I took the Motorcycle drivers training course to get my license, but they didn't teach us much about the friction zone. Been learning from videos like yours and several online trainers regarding the friction zone and slow speed handling... thanks for sharing... much appreciated... As a result, every time out, it's practice, practice, practice... Keep the rubber side down and the sunny side up...
Thanks Kevin. As a former MSF instructor as well, it's important for riders to remember these techniques and practice them often. I use the big parking lot at our local Community College nearby and try to spend 10 minutes practicing every time I ride. Keep the videos coming.
After riding for a while, applying the same practices while driving a car, significantly improved my driving skills.
Same.
you will ruin the car in friction zone if manual transmission, because its adviceable to take foot off the clutch as soon as possible. I used friction zone than had to replace clutch at 100.00 km and paid 1200 euro for it
Thanks Kevin for explaining so well the three key things. I heard of the friction zone but didn't understand until now. I will definitely be more conscious and practicing these tips now. Great help. 👍
All obvious, but rarely practiced.
I've been riding for 52 years (legally) and thank you for reaffirming these points, I often am guilty of diluting.
If I may suggest one more please; get those feet up on the footrests asap, as a center of gravity at the ankles is far less "wobbly" than between the thighs!
Great advice for all levels. Many thanks....I am now subscribed.
Wow! All those points hit home with me since I’ve made everyone of those mistakes. Great advice.
Thank you Kevin! You've explained it simply. Your explanation does make a big difference. Let me go out and practice.
Thanks Kevin, amazing how much better control you have when you drag the rear brake with the clutch in the friction zone. God bless and stay safe.
Really well explained and easy to listen to. Passing this one around Thanks!
Great advice. Been doing it without realising it. This video really make it clear. For me I was using a combination of front and rear brake . Thanks.
Great advice Kevin. Thanks for sharing. I’ve been riding for 51 years and continue to learn and hone my skills. That’s how I stay alive!
I’m a newbie and someone please correct me if I’m wrong. I have used the friction zone in 2nd gear. I was in 2nd gear coming to a stop about to down shift into 1st gear, when I noticed the bike starting to chug, I played with the friction zone in 2nd and it smoothed out the bike before I down shifted to 1st. I will say that any low speed riding you can used the friction zone except for higher gears for obvious reasons. Any input from experienced riders if I’m wrong.
Excellent video Keven. These techniques you covered are the foundation for properly handling a motorcycle and must be learned. Having to duck walk a motorcycle into a normal parking space is a sign to the rider he is unlearned and needs to practice and learn these techniques.
LOVE your videos. Thanks
I had difficult time "allowing" myself to use the friction zone (aka, ride the clutch), because learning on a stick shift car years ago, we were warned not to ride the clutch for very long or you'll burn it out. I think many cyclists are somewhat fearful of that. When I learned that a cycle clutch is a wet clutch, cooled by oil, as apposed to a dry clutch in a car, that relieved my mind a lot. You still wouldn't want to ride the clutch for a very long time at high rpm, but to make a turn and being in and out of the friction zone, is how the bike is designed to work.
Thanks Kevin. Great job. Good info.
I used this technique when I took my motorcycle license driving test. Here in California they have a little circle and you have to go both directions clockwise and counterclockwise and then of course between the cones so forth and so on. Using this technique on The tight turning circle I was able to pass my test the very first time of course with some practice. Lucky for me our local DMV didn't lock the parking lot during the weekends so I was able to go over there and practice practice practice.
WOW! I know about the head turn when riding and of course do it all the time. However, I never thought about or realized that it wasn't natural as we walk! I'm certainly going to practice this more when I'm not on my bike along with making my head turns more deliberate. I'm guilty of the lazy head turns! Great video Kevin!!
Great advice. Thank you.👍
You are right! Watching someone handling a motorcycle at low speed or shunting it, you can tell who is the proper biker and who is the one who still has a lot to learn or will never be a good biker.
About turning, you are right again! In my time I used to do trial riding on a Bultaco Sherpa. And as you sad it, the bike followed the path you found with your eyes or it went to the spot you looked at.
You have won me as a subscriber.
Great information Kevin the way you explain it spot on mate keep safe
Great comments. I try to catch all of your weekly videos as well as former videos that help me. I'm 64 years young and a returning rider after 9 year hiatus but now with a BMW K1200RS which brought me out of my so called retirement. My former bike was a 1980 interstate Goldwing which believe it or not was an easier bike to ride. Before beginning to ride again, I first took the the MSF which in California is allowed to be used rather than the road test for a license. Admittedly I still had much to learn especially with slow speed skills and turns. Yes I dumped it a few times practicing but fortunately I learn quickly. Thank You Kevin for providing information that I could practice with and become a better ride. After a year a weekly practice, emergency braking, s turns, corning, serpentine and other drills and watching your videos as well as other programs, I now ride to work via a 10 lane highway and even split traffic in slow traffic conditions. My biggest fear was having my wife ride with me and so I will not allow her to rife with me till I master my low speed maneuvers. My continuing plan is to take a course every year to increase my skill level, knowledge in order to help me stay alive. PS.. As a younger, I rode dirt bikes as well owning a Honda Hawk in the 70's and 80's. Cheers buddy!
Always informative.
very good advice - thank you!
I think this is the most useful safety instructional motor riding video for slow riding for beginners I’ve ever seen on yt. Keep it Stupid Simple. Thnx!
So helpful. Thank you!
Thanks Kevin! As always good info!
thank you SIr - some great tips ...
Thanks Kevin, every so often, I like to practice slow speed turns. I can always tell whether someone has taken a riding course by how they make slow turns or stops walking their feet on the ground.
Sorry Kevin but you misspoke while describing friction zone. You said pulling in the clutch lever “engage[s] the clutch” but that action actually DISengages the clutch (disengages the transmission from the engine). Could cause inadvertent confusion. Love the channel!
Good video as usual, so full of information, thank you
Great advice. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing these useful knowledge. I use exactly same techniques for slow riding.
Great video. Thank you.
In the office where I work sometimes, we have a couple long hallways with a "blind corner" at the end - Like Kevin said it probably does look weird to someone watching me, but I actually do practice motorcycle turns while walking down that hall to the corner. Complete with choosing my line and apex, watching for oncoming traffic and hazards, head and eyes up, turning my head and looking through the turn, etc. It helps build the habits!
Nothing wrong with that...unless you make motorcycle noises while you are doing it. ;)
@@MCrider Ha! well.. I have to confess now that the office is more empty than it used to be I might add some sound effects lol. I even catch my right hand covering the brake when I approach conference rooms off the hallway in case somebody pops out unexpectedly
I do the same! Guess you're not alone there.
You know I'm gonna start doing this now..even if I don't want to...ha,, I work in recording studios so I might not be shy about the noise practice.. they will think I'm practicing my vocal skills.
The first thing I did when I got back on a bike (after 50 years of not riding) was take it to a large parking lot and do slow figure-eights for hours. The breaking and the clutch were intuitive, probably from my early teen days on a small Honda and then in later years I drove cars with manual transmissions. The thing that gets me a little apprehensive is high speed on an interstate, though I can see that with practice Im getting more and more used to it,, when Im going faster for some reasons I still feel a bit of tension.
I've rode a ton of highway miles and still get that feeling.
i get highway paranoia just for the first few miles I've found that bringing the speed up to 75 -80 for a short time makes riding at 65 easier
@@paulacabbo466 If I ever get pulled over for speeding I am definitely going to use that one 🙂
Good stuff as always. I had to take a motorcycle safety course so I could get a Base pass to bring my motorcycle on base when I was still in the Navy in the 1970s. Even though I had been riding many years prior, I was surprised at how much I did not know.
Great review! Thanks👍
Three excellent points. Every rider and I mean ‘every’ rider should watch this video. Thank you.
THANKS for this tutorials !!!
Always good stuff!
Friction zone is hard to get use to when I've been foot brake and throttle to turn around and look where your going and not where you are is excellent advise. Never to old to learn and practice a new technique. TY and Blessings
Thank you Kevin. I'm going to receive my first motorcycle after getting my license, a 2021 CB500X, this Monday and someone recommended you in a facebook group and from that moment, I'm on a watch spree of all your videos so far, to make sure that I'm well educated before getting out on the roads for real. I'm also a 1000cc member on your website and plan on using the Field Guide at least 2 times per week for practicing!!
Awesome, thanks for becoming a Member. If there is even anyway I can help out send me a direct message on the forums.
Excellent advise
very very informative videos thanks a lot
When I took my practical test in 1985 the tester stood on the porch as I rode down the road to the next parking lot and came back. That was it passed. I had been riding before that without the proper endorsement. With over 30 years of riding I still pay close attention to these classes and implement each one. 👍 thanks Kevin.
This is great info to have right off the bat.
100% Kevin. Practice is important. Correct practice is most important. It doesn’t have to take long either. But make time for it. Thank you. Ride safe and ride often.
Excellent!! I learned some very valuable info. 🏍👍🏻
Just rode a fairly long freeway run today. A road construction project at one point had the traffic single lane for 5 miles almost stopped. I remember for a long time getting uncomfortable and want to let go of that clutch. Had to ride that friction zone for like half an hour. It's situations like that that make me very glad I spent a few years on dirt bikes before trying the streets. Other then discomfort that develops in my right hand I'm able to be successful. I can remember back to my 1st day's learning and I realize that it woulda been stressful without the skills I've slowly learned over the years... but looking back on it all, Friction zone and safe braking and swerving are 1st things I'd wanna learn before jumping out in traffic
Best advice I have ever received!
Very good advice!
Coming from riding lighter dirt bikes and tight trail riding since I was 13 years old can give you good skills and bad habits at the same time. But this advice of slow speed riding from Kevin Morris on this channel is by far the best advice I try to use on the road especially helpful riding my 1300cc heavier bike at slower and quicker maneuvering speeds for a smoother execution. I love this channel cause it really gives advice on great riding techniques!
I called the friction zone as feathering the clutch. Was pretty good at low speed but after15 year break it is slowly coming back to me, also different on a scooter with automatic cvt. All you have is the rear brake to do both. I should mention that returning to riding at 65, I couldn’t handle a heavy bike any more. So I got a used Suzuki Burgman 400 and they are a little different creatures than motorcycles.
I did get in the habit of using both brakes all the time. Never took a MSF Course but read a lot of motorcycles articles in the 70’s and 80’s on riding techniques, but I should I guess. Had my endorsement since 1974. But you still Learning all the time.
Thank you!
Hay Man.. Cheers for another goood chat.. Its 0930 on Tuesday mourning here in the SouthWEst Uk, Very cloudy an a bit gale force winds, gotta go shopping now on my Fazer600 with a little trip, 14 miles to Glastonbury.... Have been practicing some of ypour techniques, Keeping my head turning every which way, watching for distracted drivers as well as keeping my bike as safe as possible.. Cheers from Greg with-the-Fazer600, featured in MCN couple weeks ago as an affordable "Classic" bike..
Many thanks Kevin
Thanks for this confirming video, I use to think if I was using the friction zone I would burn out the clutch however I know this is now not the case.
Thank you sir.
Great video! I find myself doing this in my truck in turns, head and eyes all the time.
Always great stuff
Well done. TY
That was a great video. Dont care how long you been riding, you can always continue to learn. Keep up the great work!
I've watched your videos for quite some time even though I did not have a motorcycle. I enjoy listening to experts, so I view several channels that I don't have a vested interest in. For example, I subscribe to a couple aviation channels even though I don't own a plane or fly. However, I used to ride motorcycles many years ago and recently just purchased one and began riding again. Now I'm watching with a purpose. You do an outstanding job and I thank you for the really good advice and instruction. You also seem like a man who has been influenced by a higher power on a personal level. Am I right about the reason for your soft spoken demeanor? Anyway, I finally subscribed and hit the like button.
1:17..I can name one without even watching/listening to the rest. It is the ride pulling in the clutch in a panic if they think the bike is about to fall over...which ironically CONTRIBUTES to that xD
Good input
Thanks it real help me out ..thanks
Great advice
Other than the clutch, a lot of these same principles are the same as riding a bicycle. Counter steering, rear brake, leaning etc. etc.
G'day Kevin absolutely great advice regards Anthony from down under
All good advice, of course. I practice all of these techniques every, single, day.
Great video I’ve passed the video on to multiple clubs👍🏼
i remember my training with Gordon Kemp from Taunton, Somerset in the UK .. he always said "keep your head up" and "look where you want to go and the bike will follow", it was bizarre at the time, but also a moment when you finally click and get it. Trail braking and clutch control was another important learning curve. I miss those days when you just went out to learn and practise new skills. For me Gordon was the champ, a former police motorcycling trainer, he had the scary kind of do as your told about him! Gordon, you're still my legend, even if you can't remember training me 10 years ago 🤣🤣🤣
As always, your video is great avise!
I am a relatively new rider, but am really happy with how much more confident I feel and am able to control my bike using some of this advice. I especially notice then when observing other ridings who appear to be much more experienced than me but do not have the fundamentals down as well as I do (duck walking, rough downshifting, improper front/rear braking, use of the friction zone, etc.). As always, great info! Keep up the good work! You are making a real difference for me and so many others!
one of the best things you can do is look up jerry palladino's "ride like a pro" here on youtube. with just a few hours of practice, you'll be a better rider than 80% of the other people you see on the street. in my first year of riding, i took 2nd place at a bike rodeo held by a big local group. all was due to the techniques in this video, and palladino's. also, get a book by david hough called "proficient motorcycling". it teaches you how to behave in traffic, and on group rides, for maximum safety. it also teaches proper cornering. if you do these things, you'll be amazed at how fast you get good at it, and it makes riding way more fun because you have better control and more confidence. good luck, and have fun!
@@cheezyridr love that dude! Very cool, thanks for sharing!
@@cheezyridr I am definitely finding it is more enjoyable when the riding/operating part becomes natural and you can focus on your surroundings and the experience.
Unlike automobile clutches, motorcycle clutches are designed to operate in the friction zone without damaging the clutch. If you learned clutch operation on a car and were told "never ride the clutch" you need to quit worrying about damage to a motorcycle clutch when you do that. Most motorcycle clutchs are what is known as wet clutchs and are lubricated by oil from the primary.
not just lubricated, totally immersed in the engine oil and kept cool
Good advice to use as a reference.
Thanks, Kevin!