You clearly don't understand the implications. Those tanks represent the side-effects of ARI becoming permanent due to Norman no longer taking the drugs that counter it. The only difference is it's less direct than a flat-out fatal overdose. This one is showing ARI bleeding into his reality - he will eventually devolve into an incurable paranoid-schizophrenic with psychotic episodes due to continued use of ARI without the drugs to stop brain-damage.
I think the ending where Jayden haunts his glasses when he dies and scares the crap out of Blake is a pretty cool and revenge filled ending if you ask me, but Its not the ending I would've wanted, I just want the ending where he lives.
@@AdamTrademarkI think you right because Norman is not having his ARI on and that means blake have it like we saw that in the "Uploaded" and the background is the same also blake don't have glove to change it
Actually, Case Closed isn't that bad of an ending as people think it is. Remember when Norman had hallucinations of a forest completely overwriting The room he's in? Well, now the only thing wrong are these miniature tanks. His problems are actually getting less severe.
It is pretty tragic, but it still creates a hope spot. If Norman's problems got less severe than they were before, who knows? Maybe after some time, they'll dissappear completely.
You've got it in reverse. Those tanks represent the brain-damaging effect of ARI now becoming permanent. This is due to him no longer using the drugs which counter-act ARI's side-effects, hence he's now starting to see things like digital tanks even in the real world WITHOUT the glasses even being on. I don't know how anyone can even think for a second this is hopeful in any way. He will devolve into an incurable paranoid-schizophrenic with psychotic episodes.
@@RopeDrink Is there anything in the game that suggests the side effects are going to permanent no matter what? Feel like you're jumping the gun there lol
@@estebangomez7955 And there is also nothing that implies it's reversable. If it were up to me, i wouldn't take those 50/50 risks of getting permanent brain damage that will turn me to a schizophrenic that develops psycohotic episodes here and there. Better be safe then sorry
I agree, Norman is better off resigning... not sounding it in a bad way, but I guess he has his fair share of problem. Sometimes it is better to walk away and forget all of this.
Even though his brain is damaged, I prefer the ending where he doesn't feel sorry for himself and managed to catch the killer. I imagine, that he would be more happy with that. At least he goes out damaged but a hero.
Munzur Baba That actually is his best ending and his brain is not damaged. It’s believed by the lore that the product only causes temporary hallucinations with excessive use. It most likely wares off after awhile.
+Jorge Fracaro Guirado i thought that depended on if you used the Triptocaine during the game? He either flushes it down the toilet or sees the tanks...?
Though, I feel like they make sense because of the noir atmosphere and the fact that Norman is paranoid + heavy drug addict. I find Norman's happy ending nice because it shows that his brain damage can't be undone despite the fact that he stopped using the drug. It's sad but I find it deep.
Ricardo Ferrari well I think his best ending in my opinion is actually him quitting the fbi. Even though I know its not technically a good ending for him.
I get the feeling people regard endings 'sucky' if they don't involve rainbows, unicorns and happiness. There's nothing wrong with his endings - in-fact, they seem to be the most varied of the characters, which is testament to his popularity. What more did people expect from a guy battling drug addiction, utilizing technology that can cause brain damage, and works in very dangerous profession? People like that don't tend to get happy endings - be happy that he at least has one.
People dont seem to understand Jayden endings, so im going to try to explain it the best way possible (Beware, my english is not perfect) ARI is like a controlled schizoprenia. It makes possible to imagine things that arent real like they were actually real, same as a psicotic episode does, but controlled. The thing is that with time, jayden starts to suffer a self induced schizoprenia that he cant control. So, he uses an antipsychotic (triptocaine) to stop this uncontrolled psychotic episode. Problem is, tripto causes addiction. The endings explanation is like this: -Jayden stops using ari and tripto, and so ends his schizoprenia, and lives in the real world. -Jayden uses both ari and tripto, and he dies from a overdose.(numerous tripto vials in the floor) -Jayden uses Ari, but not tripto, and develops a full wild schizoprenia, and starts having psychotic episodes. -Blake uses ari, and sees jayden. This is not real jayden tho, is a construct that his mind created in the Ari, most likely because he was thinking about jayden when he put on his glasses.
actually in the wiki The third ending Norman just recieves Slight Brain damage that may be permanent. But the 4th one actually created a AI of him like Jarvin in Iron Man which is why it also shows up in the death one too.
Abel GtrzRT i like your theory, but it has one inconsistency. Iam talking about the fragments when Jayden uses the ARI to investigate things. If it all was his shizo, then how it is possible to see things like lists of cops, car numbers and so on?
If people keep asking why Carter Blake and his colleagues are being such an ass towards Jayden, isn't it obvious that they are actually feeling very inferior with Norman's presence? Because one, Norman is an agent of a higher rank than them. Blake made it clear when he said the local police won't trample on evidence even though they're not in the FBI and think Norman is one of those bureaucrats behind the desk ordering people around and showing off his high tech gadget only FBI agents could use. Have to admit, those moments seeing Blake flipping off on Norman a lot of the times and Norman giving a piece of his mind to Blake again were pretty funny. Two, their rivalry was very serious with Blake keep saying he's the one who found OK w/o having to have a profiler like Norman. He looks down on Norman thinking that Norman's method was a waste of time and unnecessary. Norman was the intelligent, by book kind of guy and had to take a lot of crap from them seeing he's the only FBI guy around. Even Perry said he didn't want the FBI to be involved but had no choice since the OK case got even bigger. Too obvious that these policemen had such huge egos and yet inferior at the same time. So you should see why everybody is having inferiority complex thinking they're supposedly good enough in doing their jobs and yet still needing one FBI guy around them to 'monitor and assist' them? Indirectly means that they're not able to do their jobs well. So of course the hissy fits by Blake all the time. I've been in Norman's shoes before. Believe me when you're from a higher rank and have to work with people like Blake and Perry, it is hell.
i just finished the game ,is it possible to get the first ending from 00.0.0.02.04 and still have jayden allive? beacuse i pretty damn sure he survived the encounter with the guy with all the cars. I also had the chance to call him with Madison... is it a bug or if i were to call him he wouldnt answer and seemignsly jayden died, witch in that case for me seem to be a pretty damn unclear death
What, they suck just because they're not all rainbows and happiness? There's a big lack of appreciation for tragic heroes with such vastly different paths. They're not sucky just because none of them are distinctly 'good endings'. Many stories have tragic characters who get dealt a bad hand no matter whether they deserved it or not.
That's what makes them so great. An addiction and brain damage don't just stop because of your willpower. What makes Jayden so great, is that he cares more about saving others than his own safety.
Even though it was a pain in the ass, I got the ending where Ethan, Shaun and Madison get the apartment, Jayden resigns, and Lauren kills "You know who". Not gonna lie, felt pretty proud of myself
Jordan Alexander All I really had to search is the requirements for Jayden to solve the puzzle (I missed the gas station tickets), other than that, its a freaking easy game, or may I say... movie All you really have to do is press buttons
Holy buck... I seriously cried watching the ending where he was talking to himself and the one where he ODed... just... damn. So much torment going on inside of him, especially with the ARI and Triptocane...
- What are you going to do now? - I don't know. Resign...? Try to forget...? I don't know... - Is Tripto part of your plan to forget? - It's the most effective way I've found. - Except it's not a solution. - For the moment I'm not looking for solutions. I just want to forget. - I'm afraid things may have affected you more than you think, Norman. - Why do you say that? I'm okay... I'm getting through this. Let's just take it easy. See what happens when it's all over. - It may never be over, Norman.
Me too he was awesome! He had the cool glasses and moves too! When I watch someone played Jayden died by being knocked out and got killed by a crusher! After that I got so mad and stress
+John Sridaoduan Damn. That scene haunted me for days…. That crusher thing. Such a 'happy' game this game is, huh? I like Jayden too so I'm a bit pissed on his ending had to go.
That means that you used ARI too much. So you know, the butler in the ARI simulation wasn't talking about tripto (jayden's drugs) when he said it was dangerous to use too much. He was actually talking about the ARI system itself.
+twint1p The TV ending is the good one. He survives, solves the case and stops taking Triptocaine, with the side effect that he'll be seeing some allucinations until he's fully recovered
That isn't correct at all. Without the drugs (requirement of the 'tanks' ending), Norman isn't countering ARI's brain-damaging side-effects, hence we now see that ARI is bleeding into his reality as a sign of him becoming permanently brain-damaged. It is NOT a good ending.
Good character. Shitty endings One is his coworkers saying how they never liked him anyway and a minute of putting on glasses One is the right thing to do, but bullshitingly boring. One is a fucking late night talk show and some bathroom drugs. One is just him tripping balls. And the last is welcome to the most rapey room you ever seen. Perfect.
As sad as that is, it's more real to life than a happy ending for Norman. Addiction normally does do irreparable damage to the addict, even when recovered and staying in the same place often causes relapses to be more probable so either way, Norman wouldn't have a happy outcome. It may suck but, it was a very real way to go about it. I'll take those endings over his Tripto deaths any-day. It's a great message that people with addictions aren't terrible people, they just have a terrible problem.
I really think Case Closed isn't that bad an ending, because his hallucinations used to be world-changing when he used to do the drugs. The tanks are an improvement and he can even see that they're fake. A few more years and he might be doing much better mentally, with the right help
I dont get the ending where the non real tanks come at him it feels like an bad ending but his addiction of the blue thing stopped, but it stills feel like an bad ending.
Well, he used Triptocaine to combat the effects of the ARI, which if used in an excessive manner, damages the user's psychological health. So, even if he managed to quit the addictive drug, his brain will still suffer from the effects of the ARI shades, meaning that Jayden has some pretty damn sad endings ;~;
@@mjstwocents4568 I'd have to disagree. From the clip we definetly know that he recieves brain-damage over the uses of ARI, we also never know whether he continues to use the ARI or not thus bringing up the possibilites of him further developing his schizoprenia. So from that ending all we know is that he is a paranoid schizoprenic with psychotic episodes
i don't know what you want. he didn't "give up" at All. he makes a choice. a choice to live without Ari in "the real world". he is despair yeah, because now he knew how much he add To do. I love him so much, funny but complex. a pretty good cocktail :)
for those wondering what's up, long term useage of the ARI system causes hallucinations. The Tripto he takes (while highly addictive) is the drug used to counter the side effects of using the ARI, one of which is hallucinations.
its sad how David Cage can make a DLC for Jayden about his past and drug problems but instead he gave that opportunity to Madison and yet another serial killer...I was hoping for another development or a spin-off or some sort based on this game and the characters in it because they are complex and interesting. Too bad he moved on to other games, Jayden was my fav character of this game and all time
For the uninitiated, Norman has two distinct issues - ARI, his hi-tech glasses which can eventually cause lasting brain-damage, and Triptocaine, a drug issued with the glasses to counter its effects - though said drug is highly addictive. Norman is so hell bent on solving this case that he will essentially resign if Shaun is saved (no thanks to Norman), which turns out to be the best outcome as he hands in his glasses, opting to live in the 'real world', thus has no real reason to continue taking the drug (though whether he overcomes the addiction is unknown). If the case goes unsolved/Shaun dies, Norman will succumb to guilt-ridden paranoia and spends far too much time in ARI, with his own self mentioning the likelihood of permanent side-effects. If he solves the case and players failed to ween him off the drug, he will die of an overdose. If he solves the case but the player has weened him off the drugs, he will start to succumb to the brain-damaging effects of ARI - permanently - as shown by digital tanks now being visible to him in reality. Of course, just like Ethan and Madison, he can also be killed in various ways throughout the game, to which Blake will try on his glasses and be spooked by 'uploaded Norman'.
the ending where Blake puts Jayden's glasses isn't a bad ending, not at ALL, i even consider it the BEST ending over the one where he retires, trust me
@@jinthekingkazama1159 It's really not a good ending. It isn't the *WORST* ending by any means as there is still a digital ghost of him in the ARI but him dying is clearly a bad ending. I need an explanation on why you think Norman dying is the best ending.
Him leaving or him seeing the tanks is the best endings for him. Personally if he sees tanks but ot doesn't affect his ability to think and live, then that's light worl.
The end with the trashing of the crypto is my favorite,I love that Jayden get rid of that shit with a single move,his clear mind and love for his life that he kept is much better.😊
No, the ending with Let's Talk Tonight can be WITHOUT the Triptocaine problems, if you don't take tripto trough the whole game. That will be the best ending, in that case.
I like how the background becomes darker and a storm is brewing if you take too long. It reflects how Jayden's brain is becoming more and more damaged.
It's really a shame that poor Norman has no good endings. He's my personal favourite character, and is the only character who isn't directly related to Shaun Mars who genuinely cares about him. I kind of wish that he could have gotten at least ONE good ending. I mean, the best endings he can get are either that he must leave his job, his passion, or that, despite overcoming his addiction, he is permanently damaged from it. Poor guy just can't catch a break.
The only best ending is the one with the tanks. It seems someone hacked his device to where ya no longer needed the glasses to see the certain things off of the device for as long as ya wore the glove.
I wanted to slap Blake so bad when he was treating him like shit. I wish there was a part where you could like...arrest him or something... He deserved it! Jaydens my personal favorite character like ever!
Pastel Bambi The worst that happens to Blake is that if Ethan is killed at the warehouse but Norman is alive (I think you have to get Norman not to go to the warehouse though), the ending news report says that Blake and Captain Perry are suspended, showing that Norman reported their actions after learning of Ethan’s wrongful death. That or whatever ends up happening to him in the aftermath of the “Uploaded” ending when he sees Norman walking towards him when he has on the ARI glasses. Personally I’d like to think Norman slowly causes Blake to go insane by torturing him through the glasses, making him go through the same thing he did when he experienced withdrawal from Triptocaine.
yes . u dont let norman use the tripto and when blake tells u that they found the origami killer and leave , u just leave without usibg the ARI system NOT EVEN TRY TO FIND WHO THE KILLER IS , , the when madison discover the adress of were shaun is , u choose to call call jayden. like that he dont use the ARI to much, and he does not take the tripto , he wont go mad :)
Make sure you do lots of searching in the fish tank place where Scott almost kills you. You should find a gun and some gas station receipts. Maybe a bullet, but I think those two are the most important. While in ARI the last time, make sure you look at the recording in the "clues" box. Go back to when Scot was choking you on the desk, and pause it and analyze. It should zoom in on his wrist. Do a geo search on the gas receipt and the "?" box. Hope this helps.
I was so sad, that I accidentally killed Norman in the Ari, but now watching all his endings, it might be for the best. Poor guy, his gameplay was by far the best of all.
@@lucyk8935 Isnt death better than suffering though? I dont know his all endings have their downsides and great things about them. Ranking/Good thing/(bad thing) 1. Stopping with the drug and solving the crime gaining him huge amount of fame and recognition. (Schizophrenia from ARI) 2. Resigning but keeping his sanity. (No fame, loss of a job, the aim of his life lost + no guarantee hell succed in real world as hes quite asocial.) 3. Hes dead [yes for him even death might be better] and people remember him. (Death of the best protagonist imo) 4. Overdosing and ending his suffering. (Very sad and cold death alone without anyone to care. :'( ) Thats my order if I had to sort them out. I guess there is no definite ranking though since someone might think the N3 is the best since its death in action is kinda honorable and it ends his suffering and hes remembered by other people (Blake)
Who knows, with "Case Closed," he could get over the whole Tanks thing through taking a break from ARI. Maybe they were just lonely, and wanted Norman to play with them for a change. After all, ARI has interacted with him before.
Shit, all Jayden's endings suck. He resigning from FBI might be the best one for him, screwing Ethan, Shaun and maybe Peige in the process, but, leading a normal life in real life. If he becames the hero, he goes on, investigating and shit, but probably got a permanent brain damage from using AIR too much, even if he resists Tripto. And, loose in despair and overdose in Tripto... If he isn't killed in the investigation, that is.
Necro DetonadosBR if you don't take triptocain through out the game the tank scene didn't appear it ends with him flushing the triptocain down the toilet
Shame, Norman is easily the best character in the game and all of his endings suck for him. A. He dies. B. He fails his investigation and resigns from his job (possibly leaving other characters to die). C. He accuses Blake,is mocked, and sent back home. D. He succeeds in his investigation, but is then fucked for the rest of his life from Ari use. Even if he refuses to take the Tripto whenever possible. We couldn't have one ending where he succeeds, gives up Ari without any consequences, and lives happily ever after?
@malpuro Yup. The hallucinations are a type of brain damage caused from using the ARI too much. (As you can see when you check out his wall-ball score. Its in the 10000's even though one bounce = 1 point O_o)
I genuinely feel bad for Norman, he did so much throughout the game. Only for some lame ass endings. The closest thing to “happy” is where he leaves the FBI. All the others are depressing in some way. Especially when his schizophrenia starts showing him ARI things in the real world. I wish they gave him better endings.
(Cont'd) So the reason why Jayden starts seeing tanks in the real world is because his mind still thinks he's using ARI, or that his brain is beginning to think ARI's world is real and is jumbling it together. Now this leaves his ending open in that Jayden could stop using ARI for a while, after being freaked out by what he saw, and restoring his brains functionality back to normal. Or he continues using it and the visions get worse. Or he tells his superiors allowing them to fix it later.
He can create projections based on his thoughts on triptoicane but can still fight and is quick witted but can die while being overpowered or losing control of himself.
@malpuro The more he plays it the more it goes up not just for one sitting. But the fact that he has a score that high, shows just how much he's using the ARI outside of work related stuff. Which is in itself a sign of addiction But the thing that is clear cut is that using the ARI in excess causes the user to have a hard time differentiating the real world from the artificial world due to damage to the brain over prolonged use. The score is just an indication of just how much he's been using it
the scene were he he sees the tanks dose not happen if you resist the drug every time its the same scenes just minus the last one witch is a good ending for him
The second one where he leaves the fbi isn't good but it's not bad either, he could find a new career and shit, live a simple life. I've watched all these endings and it was a while ago, but from what I remember, Norman ODing was pretty dark, but some of Ethan's endings were dark af lol
Jayden is a noire type character people like him don't usually have happy endings as for ethan him killing himself is because shaun is dead and he has nothing to live for even if he's killed by the police he saved shaun and Blake and Perry are suspended
it depends on how many times you decide to take the triptico, not how long you use ARI. that second to last one is the scariest i think. trapped in ARI forever.
It would be so cool for a sequel for this game where there's only Norman as a playable character. Since ARI was still going on in his head even when he took the ARI off, it leaves him with ARI in his head permenantly. He could use that to solve crimes without the glasses and work as a private investigator kicking some crime ass.
It's damaging it. He never programed or 'imagined' the tanks there so it was effecting his brain to start mentally harming him really. Sad because they were so cute.
I got resignation because I didn't figure out YOU KNOW WHO was the killer until the next cutscene. But I was happy with Norman's resigning because he finally seemed like he straightened himself out and not be an addict of either ARI or tripto.
norman best ending is i think Reasign giving him the reasoning to stop using ARI, the other one is Case closed but its not as good because he starting to hallucination Blake: why dont you fuck off NorMAN? Norman: :]
No, this ending is actually pretty good considering what else you can get. It also doesn't mean he dies it just means he overused his ari and now has to take the consequences. What happens after this: Will he stop using ari but be haunted by mini tanks or will he continue using ari and probably die of the overuse it's not shown. When he gives up the investigation it also doesn't mean he can't save Shaun. When you contact him with Madison afterwards he'll still be able to go there.
To understand the meaning of the endings Norman uses a special device ARI glasses which helps him During solving cases. This device using Normans brain as a direct CPU. This is resulting in the fact that the ARI users become exhausted more often than other people and hence needs sleeping more often. However since cases requiring faster solving of the puzzles the special drug Triptocain developed turning the side effects of exhaustion similar when people not sleeping for days dissapear. However Jayden does not keeps in mind about the usage of the drug and uses triptocain as an almost all the time solution for being exhausted which could result in massive side effects or even death. Uploaded: Norman died, Only some minor side show appears Smoking mirrors: Shaun dies and Jayden becomes a very depressed person after his failure to solve the case. Even after the Shauns case Jayden still attemps to find out were did he make mistakes and a finding out who the killed is but being unable to find out the answers overuses ARI again and dies pressumably by overexhaustion caused by his overtaxed brain. Resignation: Shaun survived but not by Jayden's work as he did not get the answers needen, After his failure he became depressed and not seeing himself being able to cope with the FBI's requirements and resingness, the rest of Jayden fate is unkown. Case Closed: Jayden solves the case and become a well known and succesful FBI agent. He decidess to not to use triptocain. At this point many says Jayden become brain damaged however it is a bit tricky since it is more of a simbolic end than an actual one. Without the triptocain Jayden can't shortcut the side effects of ARI. The scene plays at night in his office and Jayden using ARI The tank appearing giving him a warming like "That's enough for today!" and Jayden surrenders. Meaning that Jayden has to keep in mind the limits of using ARI in the future.
Uploaded: Jayden die during his investigation, and i think the ARI glasses uploaded him, but the Jayden from the ARI isn't jayden himself, maybe some kind of holographic Jayden. Smoking Mirror: ARI Jayden (just like the Uploaded ending) talking with the ''real'' Jayden. Those are my interpretations from the ending, i don't know if are true or not.
Jayden used the Triptocaine before the history of heavy rain. There is no information about when he started taking it and how he got it. So the drug is taken anyway :/. But because he used it, it seems has taken a special effect on his mind because it was used as a painkiller after using the ARI which had an effect on his mind. I know Jayden used Triptocaine before, but everything else in this comment is my theory :p.
The ending where he takes of the glasses and still sees the tanks was the ending I got on my first playthrough, I prefer that ending. Those glasses fucked him up.
This might be a stupid question. What makes Jayden go crazy? Is it the computer sunglasses he wears or is it the tubes of stuff that he takes sometimes?
paultheuglydog It’s not really explained. Norman is highly addicted to the Triptocaine (which is the tubes of blue stuff he carries with him in multiple chapters), which was given to him to counteract the effects of overusing the ARI glasses, which would cause his eyes and nose to bleed (as seen in the chapter “Solving the Puzzle”, if you stay in ARI for too long which can result in Norman’s death if you stay in ARI letting Norman sit idle and do nothing for approximately ten minutes). So it may be either the Triptocaine, ARI, or both that causes him to suffer psychologically. However, some players, including myself, have theorized that Norman himself may have some type of psychological issue himself, perhaps a split personality, which only got worse with the effects of overusage of ARI and his addiction to Triptocaine. It is possible that this is why he talks to himself in the ARI environment in the “Smoking Mirror” ending, because he felt so guilty over failing to save Shaun Mars and resolve the case of the Origami Killer that his differing personalities manifested separately for the first time, which shocked Norman (as shown by how Norman is shocked after seeing that the person he was talking to was himself.) This ‘split personality’ theory also could explain why he acts differently and more similar to Blake in some chapters, such as in “Fish Tank” when he aggressively threatens the bouncer after he refuses to tell him whether Paco knew the guy that had killed him. This is a stark contrast to how Norman had previously acted; he was mostly quiet and seemed antisocial around other people. Some of his dialogue in “Mad Jack” also appears to support this theory. If you choose to have Norman threaten to ignite the gas barrels, at one point he’ll say “Or rather, I’ll just say it was an accident, because you won’t really be able to talk, will ya, Jack?” Now, this could easily have been Norman simply threatening Jack in order to scare him enough to make him talk, but it seems sort of odd to hear Norman say something like that judging from his earlier behavior in past chapters.
I think it's when you don't play the game at the office scene when you wait, and you let Madison call Jayden and let Jayden give up with the ARI when he's trying to find out himself where the Shaun is, but I'm not sure.
It's just too thrilling for him I guess :D I mean ARI is a pretty cool device for anyone out there. With these glasses you can make anything look like...well it looks more interesting. Who wouldn't want to be the cool FBI guy with high tech glasses and the neat black suit? But since he knew the NOT so thrilling aftereffects of it, it was still pretty dumb. But yeah,...ARI IS a prototype. So he couldn't know it all....maybe he thought since he flushed the tripto it wouldn't end so bad
Oh and when he flushes the drugs down the toilet, it means he stopped his addiction of the triptocaine. He's not taking drugs anymore (Yay!) but the ari still won't get out of his mind so it seems :/
The ending where he is stuck in his fantasy world is so sad. I could imagine how people with schizophrenia sees it
It's actually not to bad The tanks are just going to be there from time to time but He can't wear the glasses anymore
***** Oh no he's dead he OD with the glasses on (Everyone dies: Case also goes Unsolved)
You clearly don't understand the implications. Those tanks represent the side-effects of ARI becoming permanent due to Norman no longer taking the drugs that counter it. The only difference is it's less direct than a flat-out fatal overdose. This one is showing ARI bleeding into his reality - he will eventually devolve into an incurable paranoid-schizophrenic with psychotic episodes due to continued use of ARI without the drugs to stop brain-damage.
@@RopeDrink Some have said it's temporary and he's healing.
@@matro2 It could damn well be 🤔 I sure hope so.
I wish he could resign AFTER solving the case. Poor Norman deserves it...
I think the ending where Jayden haunts his glasses when he dies and scares the crap out of Blake is a pretty cool and revenge filled ending if you ask me, but Its not the ending I would've wanted, I just want the ending where he lives.
@@AdamTrademarkI think you right because Norman is not having his ARI on and that means blake have it like we saw that in the "Uploaded" and the background is the same also blake don't have glove to change it
Jayden is much scarier when he lives, especially 😂
Good karma for Blake but I want Norman to be alive.
Actually, Case Closed isn't that bad of an ending as people think it is. Remember when Norman had hallucinations of a forest completely overwriting The room he's in? Well, now the only thing wrong are these miniature tanks. His problems are actually getting less severe.
It is pretty tragic, but it still creates a hope spot. If Norman's problems got less severe than they were before, who knows? Maybe after some time, they'll dissappear completely.
Thanks for this comment. Made me feel less bad about the ending I got lol.
You've got it in reverse. Those tanks represent the brain-damaging effect of ARI now becoming permanent. This is due to him no longer using the drugs which counter-act ARI's side-effects, hence he's now starting to see things like digital tanks even in the real world WITHOUT the glasses even being on. I don't know how anyone can even think for a second this is hopeful in any way. He will devolve into an incurable paranoid-schizophrenic with psychotic episodes.
@@RopeDrink Is there anything in the game that suggests the side effects are going to permanent no matter what? Feel like you're jumping the gun there lol
@@estebangomez7955 And there is also nothing that implies it's reversable. If it were up to me, i wouldn't take those 50/50 risks of getting permanent brain damage that will turn me to a schizophrenic that develops psycohotic episodes here and there. Better be safe then sorry
"What the Hell are you doing with my glasses, Blake?!"
"HOLY SH**!!!"
"Go to my funeral, NOW!"
Resignation is the best ending for him
Aaron Hapgood tru
I agree, Norman is better off resigning... not sounding it in a bad way, but I guess he has his fair share of problem. Sometimes it is better to walk away and forget all of this.
Best ending and it's hard to get it if you playing game for the first time
Even though his brain is damaged, I prefer the ending where he doesn't feel sorry for himself and managed to catch the killer. I imagine, that he would be more happy with that. At least he goes out damaged but a hero.
Munzur Baba That actually is his best ending and his brain is not damaged. It’s believed by the lore that the product only causes temporary hallucinations with excessive use. It most likely wares off after awhile.
I guess there is no good ending to him, the one that is near to be a good ending is he resigning.. At least he's not dead and he is not a junkie...
Wat about the talk show?
Timothy Underwood after the show he goes to his office and starts to see things...
Oh i thought that was a whole different scene, thanks. 😄
Actually the effects of the ARI permanently damaged his brain and he sees things now
+Jorge Fracaro Guirado i thought that depended on if you used the Triptocaine during the game? He either flushes it down the toilet or sees the tanks...?
Norman is the best character in the game in my opinion but his endings suck
Though, I feel like they make sense because of the noir atmosphere and the fact that Norman is paranoid + heavy drug addict. I find Norman's happy ending nice because it shows that his brain damage can't be undone despite the fact that he stopped using the drug. It's sad but I find it deep.
RalphLegoProductions17 is it because of this
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Ricardo Ferrari well I think his best ending in my opinion is actually him quitting the fbi. Even though I know its not technically a good ending for him.
Ralph Da Photographer My Norman's a ghost even better.
I get the feeling people regard endings 'sucky' if they don't involve rainbows, unicorns and happiness. There's nothing wrong with his endings - in-fact, they seem to be the most varied of the characters, which is testament to his popularity. What more did people expect from a guy battling drug addiction, utilizing technology that can cause brain damage, and works in very dangerous profession? People like that don't tend to get happy endings - be happy that he at least has one.
People dont seem to understand Jayden endings, so im going to try to explain it the best way possible (Beware, my english is not perfect)
ARI is like a controlled schizoprenia. It makes possible to imagine things that arent real like they were actually real, same as a psicotic episode does, but controlled. The thing is that with time, jayden starts to suffer a self induced schizoprenia that he cant control. So, he uses an antipsychotic (triptocaine) to stop this uncontrolled psychotic episode. Problem is, tripto causes addiction.
The endings explanation is like this:
-Jayden stops using ari and tripto, and so ends his schizoprenia, and lives in the real world.
-Jayden uses both ari and tripto, and he dies from a overdose.(numerous tripto vials in the floor)
-Jayden uses Ari, but not tripto, and develops a full wild schizoprenia, and starts having psychotic episodes.
-Blake uses ari, and sees jayden. This is not real jayden tho, is a construct that his mind created in the Ari, most likely because he was thinking about jayden when he put on his glasses.
actually in the wiki The third ending Norman just recieves Slight Brain damage that may be permanent. But the 4th one actually created a AI of him like Jarvin in Iron Man which is why it also shows up in the death one too.
Abel GtrzRT what about when he started seeing the tanks? Is that his schizophrenia entering reality? I don't know how it works sorry
Chloe Kenna probably harmless he can live with it
Abel GtrzRT i like your theory, but it has one inconsistency. Iam talking about the fragments when Jayden uses the ARI to investigate things. If it all was his shizo, then how it is possible to see things like lists of cops, car numbers and so on?
Wait he had 4 endings?
If people keep asking why Carter Blake and his colleagues are being such an ass towards Jayden, isn't it obvious that they are actually feeling very inferior with Norman's presence?
Because one, Norman is an agent of a higher rank than them. Blake made it clear when he said the local police won't trample on evidence even though they're not in the FBI and think Norman is one of those bureaucrats behind the desk ordering people around and showing off his high tech gadget only FBI agents could use. Have to admit, those moments seeing Blake flipping off on Norman a lot of the times and Norman giving a piece of his mind to Blake again were pretty funny. Two, their rivalry was very serious with Blake keep saying he's the one who found OK w/o having to have a profiler like Norman. He looks down on Norman thinking that Norman's method was a waste of time and unnecessary. Norman was the intelligent, by book kind of guy and had to take a lot of crap from them seeing he's the only FBI guy around. Even Perry said he didn't want the FBI to be involved but had no choice since the OK case got even bigger. Too obvious that these policemen had such huge egos and yet inferior at the same time. So you should see why everybody is having inferiority complex thinking they're supposedly good enough in doing their jobs and yet still needing one FBI guy around them to 'monitor and assist' them? Indirectly means that they're not able to do their jobs well. So of course the hissy fits by Blake all the time.
I've been in Norman's shoes before. Believe me when you're from a higher rank and have to work with people like Blake and Perry, it is hell.
what job were u in if u dont mind me asking
+ZIMO F.C why do you ask?
+Georgia Andrea its a question out of curiosty u dnt hve to answer it.
ZIMO F.C Well, I'm also curious to your question, too. In fact, very curious! Haha!
+Georgia Andrea it was intresting to know
It's because Norman used ARI so much that his memory and persona were uploaded into the glasses. (thus the name of the ending; Uploaded)
lol norman's endings suck even though i think he is the best protagoinst
i know right
i just finished the game ,is it possible to get the first ending from 00.0.0.02.04 and still have jayden allive? beacuse i pretty damn sure he survived the encounter with the guy with all the cars. I also had the chance to call him with Madison... is it a bug or if i were to call him he wouldnt answer and seemignsly jayden died, witch in that case for me seem to be a pretty damn unclear death
What, they suck just because they're not all rainbows and happiness? There's a big lack of appreciation for tragic heroes with such vastly different paths. They're not sucky just because none of them are distinctly 'good endings'. Many stories have tragic characters who get dealt a bad hand no matter whether they deserved it or not.
@@RopeDrink well, there is a good ending, where he quit the FBI. He probably found his path in life, got off drugs and didn't get the brain damage.
That's what makes them so great. An addiction and brain damage don't just stop because of your willpower. What makes Jayden so great, is that he cares more about saving others than his own safety.
Even though it was a pain in the ass, I got the ending where Ethan, Shaun and Madison get the apartment, Jayden resigns, and Lauren kills "You know who". Not gonna lie, felt pretty proud of myself
Pain in the ass? its a very easy game and to get all endings you must re-play like the 5 or 6 last chapters only.
+nixxxon18 I tried to do this without a guide...Or knowledge of how David Cage's brain works.
Jordan Alexander All I really had to search is the requirements for Jayden to solve the puzzle (I missed the gas station tickets), other than that, its a freaking easy game, or may I say... movie
All you really have to do is press buttons
nixxxon18 You have to remember...I suck
How do you get the ending where in Ethan kills Scott while fighting Madison?
Holy buck... I seriously cried watching the ending where he was talking to himself and the one where he ODed... just... damn. So much torment going on inside of him, especially with the ARI and Triptocane...
- What are you going to do now?
- I don't know. Resign...? Try to forget...? I don't know...
- Is Tripto part of your plan to forget?
- It's the most effective way I've found.
- Except it's not a solution.
- For the moment I'm not looking for solutions. I just want to forget.
- I'm afraid things may have affected you more than you think, Norman.
- Why do you say that? I'm okay... I'm getting through this. Let's just take it easy. See what happens when it's all over.
- It may never be over, Norman.
ı cried in the last one jayden was my favorite character
Me too he was awesome! He had the cool glasses and moves too! When I watch someone played Jayden died by being knocked out and got killed by a crusher! After that I got so mad and stress
+John Sridaoduan Damn. That scene haunted me for days…. That crusher thing. Such a 'happy' game this game is, huh? I like Jayden too so I'm a bit pissed on his ending had to go.
Georgia Andrea Yeah, me too.
That means that you used ARI too much. So you know, the butler in the ARI simulation wasn't talking about tripto (jayden's drugs) when he said it was dangerous to use too much. He was actually talking about the ARI system itself.
lame no good ending for him. Except the resigning but the he apparently doesn't solve the case himself? Dude was my favourite character
+twint1p The TV ending is the good one. He survives, solves the case and stops taking Triptocaine, with the side effect that he'll be seeing some allucinations until he's fully recovered
That isn't correct at all. Without the drugs (requirement of the 'tanks' ending), Norman isn't countering ARI's brain-damaging side-effects, hence we now see that ARI is bleeding into his reality as a sign of him becoming permanently brain-damaged. It is NOT a good ending.
@@RopeDrink you right
@@peghop3061 When you compare the tanks to the forrest in fall sudden hallucination. I actually think believe Xander's version more.
@@RopeDrink the wiki for the game says Xander's theory so imma believe Xander
Good character.
Shitty endings
One is his coworkers saying how they never liked him anyway and a minute of putting on glasses
One is the right thing to do, but bullshitingly boring.
One is a fucking late night talk show and some bathroom drugs.
One is just him tripping balls.
And the last is welcome to the most rapey room you ever seen.
Perfect.
As sad as that is, it's more real to life than a happy ending for Norman. Addiction normally does do irreparable damage to the addict, even when recovered and staying in the same place often causes relapses to be more probable so either way, Norman wouldn't have a happy outcome. It may suck but, it was a very real way to go about it. I'll take those endings over his Tripto deaths any-day. It's a great message that people with addictions aren't terrible people, they just have a terrible problem.
I really think Case Closed isn't that bad an ending, because his hallucinations used to be world-changing when he used to do the drugs. The tanks are an improvement and he can even see that they're fake. A few more years and he might be doing much better mentally, with the right help
yep!!
@@katitherat Exactly what I thought not only does he know there fake but he also can see the real world around him
5:50 Jayden is human version of connor rk800
More like Connor is the android version of Norman since Heavy Rain was released before DBH
Agreed.
Poor Nahmen, he loses in some way in every ending he has.
I think it'd be cool if Blake kept the glasses and Jayden helped him solve mysteries
+Holly Nephew I don´t really think this is a great idea, since they hate each other. :D
One cop, one...dead cop, plenty of crime to solve. The kicker? They both hate each others guts.
And forced Blake to go more sane
@@fawkespryde9183 AMC 12:Pm on Weekdays
This idea is making me laugh so hard right now I love it
I dont get the ending where the non real tanks come at him it feels like an bad ending but his addiction of the blue thing stopped, but it stills feel like an bad ending.
Well, he used Triptocaine to combat the effects of the ARI, which if used in an excessive manner, damages the user's psychological health. So, even if he managed to quit the addictive drug, his brain will still suffer from the effects of the ARI shades, meaning that Jayden has some pretty damn sad endings ;~;
I think it's possible his problems are getting less worse though, because he used to see the entire scenery changing before now it's just tanks
@@mjstwocents4568 I'd have to disagree. From the clip we definetly know that he recieves brain-damage over the uses of ARI, we also never know whether he continues to use the ARI or not thus bringing up the possibilites of him further developing his schizoprenia. So from that ending all we know is that he is a paranoid schizoprenic with psychotic episodes
i don't know what you want. he didn't "give up" at All. he makes a choice. a choice to live without Ari in "the real world". he is despair yeah, because now he knew how much he add To do. I love him so much, funny but complex. a pretty good cocktail :)
I don't know why but Norman's endings seemed more emotional to me than any others.
Norman is such an awesome, adorable character. I can't help but feel bad for him in most of his endings.
for those wondering what's up, long term useage of the ARI system causes hallucinations. The Tripto he takes (while highly addictive) is the drug used to counter the side effects of using the ARI, one of which is hallucinations.
Honestly, I find the 2nd ending to be the best one for Norman. He gets to live, Shaun gets to live, and he doesn't remain addicted to ARI.
here from Cryaotic, because mistakes were made lol
same here tbh
Just watched the playthrew XD and same
It is a shame even his "best" ending is sad. In fact I'd say The best ending for him is to resign from the FBI and turn in Ari for good
Anyways he might come back Ro the FBI but like he said he didn't Made a Promise.
its sad how David Cage can make a DLC for Jayden about his past and drug problems but instead he gave that opportunity to Madison and yet another serial killer...I was hoping for another development or a spin-off or some sort based on this game and the characters in it because they are complex and interesting. Too bad he moved on to other games, Jayden was my fav character of this game and all time
For the uninitiated, Norman has two distinct issues - ARI, his hi-tech glasses which can eventually cause lasting brain-damage, and Triptocaine, a drug issued with the glasses to counter its effects - though said drug is highly addictive. Norman is so hell bent on solving this case that he will essentially resign if Shaun is saved (no thanks to Norman), which turns out to be the best outcome as he hands in his glasses, opting to live in the 'real world', thus has no real reason to continue taking the drug (though whether he overcomes the addiction is unknown).
If the case goes unsolved/Shaun dies, Norman will succumb to guilt-ridden paranoia and spends far too much time in ARI, with his own self mentioning the likelihood of permanent side-effects.
If he solves the case and players failed to ween him off the drug, he will die of an overdose. If he solves the case but the player has weened him off the drugs, he will start to succumb to the brain-damaging effects of ARI - permanently - as shown by digital tanks now being visible to him in reality. Of course, just like Ethan and Madison, he can also be killed in various ways throughout the game, to which Blake will try on his glasses and be spooked by 'uploaded Norman'.
the ending where Blake puts Jayden's glasses isn't a bad ending, not at ALL, i even consider it the BEST ending over the one where he retires, trust me
@@jinthekingkazama1159 It's really not a good ending. It isn't the *WORST* ending by any means as there is still a digital ghost of him in the ARI but him dying is clearly a bad ending. I need an explanation on why you think Norman dying is the best ending.
Him leaving or him seeing the tanks is the best endings for him. Personally if he sees tanks but ot doesn't affect his ability to think and live, then that's light worl.
The end with the trashing of the crypto is my favorite,I love that Jayden get rid of that shit with a single move,his clear mind and love for his life that he kept is much better.😊
7:09 that is a look of sheer terror
No, the ending with Let's Talk Tonight can be WITHOUT the Triptocaine problems, if you don't take tripto trough the whole game. That will be the best ending, in that case.
I like how the background becomes darker and a storm is brewing if you take too long. It reflects how Jayden's brain is becoming more and more damaged.
It's really a shame that poor Norman has no good endings. He's my personal favourite character, and is the only character who isn't directly related to Shaun Mars who genuinely cares about him. I kind of wish that he could have gotten at least ONE good ending. I mean, the best endings he can get are either that he must leave his job, his passion, or that, despite overcoming his addiction, he is permanently damaged from it.
Poor guy just can't catch a break.
The only best ending is the one with the tanks. It seems someone hacked his device to where ya no longer needed the glasses to see the certain things off of the device for as long as ya wore the glove.
oh that last ending was soooo depressing, my endings with Norman was always the best :3
I wanted to slap Blake so bad when he was treating him like shit.
I wish there was a part where you could like...arrest him or something...
He deserved it!
Jaydens my personal favorite character like ever!
Pastel Bambi The worst that happens to Blake is that if Ethan is killed at the warehouse but Norman is alive (I think you have to get Norman not to go to the warehouse though), the ending news report says that Blake and Captain Perry are suspended, showing that Norman reported their actions after learning of Ethan’s wrongful death. That or whatever ends up happening to him in the aftermath of the “Uploaded” ending when he sees Norman walking towards him when he has on the ARI glasses.
Personally I’d like to think Norman slowly causes Blake to go insane by torturing him through the glasses, making him go through the same thing he did when he experienced withdrawal from Triptocaine.
yes . u dont let norman use the tripto and when blake tells u that they found the origami killer and leave , u just leave without usibg the ARI system NOT EVEN TRY TO FIND WHO THE KILLER IS , , the when madison discover the adress of were shaun is , u choose to call call jayden. like that he dont use the ARI to much, and he does not take the tripto , he wont go mad :)
really? no tanks at the end?
My fav person
Ok the last one he died too so its sad!
He has two endings where he died and two endings where he lives
Make sure you do lots of searching in the fish tank place where Scott almost kills you. You should find a gun and some gas station receipts. Maybe a bullet, but I think those two are the most important.
While in ARI the last time, make sure you look at the recording in the "clues" box. Go back to when Scot was choking you on the desk, and pause it and analyze. It should zoom in on his wrist. Do a geo search on the gas receipt and the "?" box. Hope this helps.
The drugs may have been prototypes, that’s why last ending you see too much drugs on his bedroom’s floor. That’s why he dies of drugs.
The best endings are, Tonight Show Ending (idk how it’s called) and his desemploiment from FBI
I was so sad, that I accidentally killed Norman in the Ari, but now watching all his endings, it might be for the best. Poor guy, his gameplay was by far the best of all.
The best ending:Jayden leave the FBI end no have any problem
(i know it's two years ago)
Correction: The best ending: Blake puts Jayden's glasses and sees Jayden's ghost
@@jinthekingkazama1159 uhmmm...What?
Peghop That is a pretty sweet ending. other than the fact that he's dead...
@@lucyk8935 Isnt death better than suffering though? I dont know his all endings have their downsides and great things about them.
Ranking/Good thing/(bad thing)
1. Stopping with the drug and solving the crime gaining him huge amount of fame and recognition. (Schizophrenia from ARI)
2. Resigning but keeping his sanity. (No fame, loss of a job, the aim of his life lost + no guarantee hell succed in real world as hes quite asocial.)
3. Hes dead [yes for him even death might be better] and people remember him. (Death of the best protagonist imo)
4. Overdosing and ending his suffering. (Very sad and cold death alone without anyone to care. :'( )
Thats my order if I had to sort them out. I guess there is no definite ranking though since someone might think the N3 is the best since its death in action is kinda honorable and it ends his suffering and hes remembered by other people (Blake)
Aleks messed this one up bad
Who knows, with "Case Closed," he could get over the whole Tanks thing through taking a break from ARI. Maybe they were just lonely, and wanted Norman to play with them for a change. After all, ARI has interacted with him before.
I'd like to see an ending with no tripto or ari used.
More like an Ending with No Tripto,Ari and Still Working for the FBI.
5:44 so in this ending he gets crazy and starts to see hallucinations without his glasses
The ending with the tanks frightens me more than everything else.
That's part of what makes him such an interesting character though.
Shit, all Jayden's endings suck.
He resigning from FBI might be the best one for him, screwing Ethan, Shaun and maybe Peige in the process, but, leading a normal life in real life.
If he becames the hero, he goes on, investigating and shit, but probably got a permanent brain damage from using AIR too much, even if he resists Tripto.
And, loose in despair and overdose in Tripto... If he isn't killed in the investigation, that is.
Necro DetonadosBR if you don't take triptocain through out the game the tank scene didn't appear it ends with him flushing the triptocain down the toilet
Shame, Norman is easily the best character in the game and all of his endings suck for him.
A. He dies.
B. He fails his investigation and resigns from his job (possibly leaving other characters to die).
C. He accuses Blake,is mocked, and sent back home.
D. He succeeds in his investigation, but is then fucked for the rest of his life from Ari use. Even if he refuses to take the Tripto whenever possible.
We couldn't have one ending where he succeeds, gives up Ari without any consequences, and lives happily ever after?
5:57
Norman: What the hell is this? I can see them now?!?
School nurse: Put some ice on it.
@malpuro Yup. The hallucinations are a type of brain damage caused from using the ARI too much. (As you can see when you check out his wall-ball score. Its in the 10000's even though one bounce = 1 point O_o)
If he can think and act at the same time then he doesn't need the ARI all the time.
I genuinely feel bad for Norman, he did so much throughout the game. Only for some lame ass endings. The closest thing to “happy” is where he leaves the FBI. All the others are depressing in some way. Especially when his schizophrenia starts showing him ARI things in the real world. I wish they gave him better endings.
(Cont'd) So the reason why Jayden starts seeing tanks in the real world is because his mind still thinks he's using ARI, or that his brain is beginning to think ARI's world is real and is jumbling it together. Now this leaves his ending open in that Jayden could stop using ARI for a while, after being freaked out by what he saw, and restoring his brains functionality back to normal. Or he continues using it and the visions get worse. Or he tells his superiors allowing them to fix it later.
what accent does he have?
Idk, but imo it sounds like a mix of Boston and England.
Sarken I know enlish this is no english. if it is then it's 0.5 %
It's meant to be Northeastern American, the actor himself is British. The result is Nahman.
Great character, much love. Just wish there was more of a way to punish or befriend Blake during the story.
He can create projections based on his thoughts on triptoicane but can still fight and is quick witted but can die while being overpowered or losing control of himself.
@malpuro The more he plays it the more it goes up not just for one sitting. But the fact that he has a score that high, shows just how much he's using the ARI outside of work related stuff. Which is in itself a sign of addiction
But the thing that is clear cut is that using the ARI in excess causes the user to have a hard time differentiating the real world from the artificial world due to damage to the brain over prolonged use. The score is just an indication of just how much he's been using it
Norman was my favourite character and i was dissapointed that the only semi-good ending for him is leaving the force
His endings are so complex.
Norman was awesome he can use that necrotine to focus his senses and his glasses to pick up evidence.
Thanks for the answer. I've realized why the two Norman, passed the game several times with different epilogue.
Poor Norman...Damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't
Jayden best end is resignation.
the scene were he he sees the tanks dose not happen if you resist the drug every time its the same scenes just minus the last one witch is a good ending for him
He is my favorite character.
He has been using the ARI so much he can now use the ARI interface without the glasses... And he enjoys it.
The second one where he leaves the fbi isn't good but it's not bad either, he could find a new career and shit, live a simple life.
I've watched all these endings and it was a while ago, but from what I remember, Norman ODing was pretty dark, but some of Ethan's endings were dark af lol
Jayden is a noire type character people like him don't usually have happy endings as for ethan him killing himself is because shaun is dead and he has nothing to live for even if he's killed by the police he saved shaun and Blake and Perry are suspended
at one point, it forces you to take some
it depends on how many times you decide to take the triptico, not how long you use ARI. that second to last one is the scariest i think. trapped in ARI forever.
Norman is good willed an thoughtful interesting character.
It would be so cool for a sequel for this game where there's only Norman as a playable character. Since ARI was still going on in his head even when he took the ARI off, it leaves him with ARI in his head permenantly. He could use that to solve crimes without the glasses and work as a private investigator kicking some crime ass.
It's damaging it. He never programed or 'imagined' the tanks there so it was effecting his brain to start mentally harming him really. Sad because they were so cute.
No one Norman Jayden's endings are good, actually, no one is really bad too.
He can control his addiction to make him more durable and smarter and tough.
Jayden - You're not Tony Stark Blake.
Blake - gasp!!!
I got resignation because I didn't figure out YOU KNOW WHO was the killer until the next cutscene. But I was happy with Norman's resigning because he finally seemed like he straightened himself out and not be an addict of either ARI or tripto.
norman best ending is i think Reasign giving him the reasoning to stop using ARI, the other one is Case closed but its not as good because he starting to hallucination
Blake: why dont you fuck off NorMAN?
Norman: :]
Wow. Norman got all the crap endings. And he was the best character...
He can focus and change reality.
No, this ending is actually pretty good considering what else you can get. It also doesn't mean he dies it just means he overused his ari and now has to take the consequences. What happens after this: Will he stop using ari but be haunted by mini tanks or will he continue using ari and probably die of the overuse it's not shown. When he gives up the investigation it also doesn't mean he can't save Shaun. When you contact him with Madison afterwards he'll still be able to go there.
To understand the meaning of the endings
Norman uses a special device ARI glasses which helps him During solving cases. This device using Normans brain as a direct CPU. This is resulting in the fact that the ARI users become exhausted more often than other people and hence needs sleeping more often. However since cases requiring faster solving of the puzzles the special drug Triptocain developed turning the side effects of exhaustion similar when people not sleeping for days dissapear. However Jayden does not keeps in mind about the usage of the drug and uses triptocain as an almost all the time solution for being exhausted which could result in massive side effects or even death.
Uploaded: Norman died, Only some minor side show appears
Smoking mirrors: Shaun dies and Jayden becomes a very depressed person after his failure to solve the case. Even after the Shauns case Jayden still attemps to find out were did he make mistakes and a finding out who the killed is but being unable to find out the answers overuses ARI again and dies pressumably by overexhaustion caused by his overtaxed brain.
Resignation: Shaun survived but not by Jayden's work as he did not get the answers needen, After his failure he became depressed and not seeing himself being able to cope with the FBI's requirements and resingness, the rest of Jayden fate is unkown.
Case Closed: Jayden solves the case and become a well known and succesful FBI agent. He decidess to not to use triptocain. At this point many says Jayden become brain damaged however it is a bit tricky since it is more of a simbolic end than an actual one. Without the triptocain Jayden can't shortcut the side effects of ARI. The scene plays at night in his office and Jayden using ARI The tank appearing giving him a warming like "That's enough for today!" and Jayden surrenders. Meaning that Jayden has to keep in mind the limits of using ARI in the future.
Uploaded:
Jayden die during his investigation, and i think the ARI glasses uploaded him, but the Jayden from the ARI isn't jayden himself, maybe some kind of holographic Jayden.
Smoking Mirror:
ARI Jayden (just like the Uploaded ending) talking with the ''real'' Jayden.
Those are my interpretations from the ending, i don't know if are true or not.
Jayden used the Triptocaine before the history of heavy rain. There is no information about when he started taking it and how he got it. So the drug is taken anyway :/.
But because he used it, it seems has taken a special effect on his mind because it was used as a painkiller after using the ARI which had an effect on his mind. I know Jayden used Triptocaine before, but everything else in this comment is my theory :p.
The ending where he takes of the glasses and still sees the tanks was the ending I got on my first playthrough, I prefer that ending. Those glasses fucked him up.
This might be a stupid question. What makes Jayden go crazy? Is it the computer sunglasses he wears or is it the tubes of stuff that he takes sometimes?
paultheuglydog It’s not really explained. Norman is highly addicted to the Triptocaine (which is the tubes of blue stuff he carries with him in multiple chapters), which was given to him to counteract the effects of overusing the ARI glasses, which would cause his eyes and nose to bleed (as seen in the chapter “Solving the Puzzle”, if you stay in ARI for too long which can result in Norman’s death if you stay in ARI letting Norman sit idle and do nothing for approximately ten minutes). So it may be either the Triptocaine, ARI, or both that causes him to suffer psychologically. However, some players, including myself, have theorized that Norman himself may have some type of psychological issue himself, perhaps a split personality, which only got worse with the effects of overusage of ARI and his addiction to Triptocaine. It is possible that this is why he talks to himself in the ARI environment in the “Smoking Mirror” ending, because he felt so guilty over failing to save Shaun Mars and resolve the case of the Origami Killer that his differing personalities manifested separately for the first time, which shocked Norman (as shown by how Norman is shocked after seeing that the person he was talking to was himself.) This ‘split personality’ theory also could explain why he acts differently and more similar to Blake in some chapters, such as in “Fish Tank” when he aggressively threatens the bouncer after he refuses to tell him whether Paco knew the guy that had killed him. This is a stark contrast to how Norman had previously acted; he was mostly quiet and seemed antisocial around other people. Some of his dialogue in “Mad Jack” also appears to support this theory. If you choose to have Norman threaten to ignite the gas barrels, at one point he’ll say “Or rather, I’ll just say it was an accident, because you won’t really be able to talk, will ya, Jack?” Now, this could easily have been Norman simply threatening Jack in order to scare him enough to make him talk, but it seems sort of odd to hear Norman say something like that judging from his earlier behavior in past chapters.
I think it's when you don't play the game at the office scene when you wait, and you let Madison call Jayden and let Jayden give up with the ARI when he's trying to find out himself where the Shaun is, but I'm not sure.
It's just too thrilling for him I guess :D
I mean ARI is a pretty cool device for anyone out there. With these glasses you can make anything look like...well it looks more interesting. Who wouldn't want to be the cool FBI guy with high tech glasses and the neat black suit?
But since he knew the NOT so thrilling aftereffects of it, it was still pretty dumb. But yeah,...ARI IS a prototype. So he couldn't know it all....maybe he thought since he flushed the tripto it wouldn't end so bad
Oh and when he flushes the drugs down the toilet, it means he stopped his addiction of the triptocaine. He's not taking drugs anymore (Yay!) but the ari still won't get out of his mind so it seems :/
He does have a happy ending i mean he kills the origami killer,gets to shuan, he stops his addiction :)
his endings are the absolute best and no one can convince me otherwise
His brain is broken...because he used the futuristic glasses too much.