this is so neat, ive always digged these homemade touchpad controllers from other youtubers back then and seeing one more fleshed out like this today is a nice refresh, i also always had the wish of a more layback way to play competitive fps with a controller with better aiming but still the touchpad isn't as good as i thought. So I found another way to do it thats still pretty underestimated which is controllers with motion controls, ive never returned to the keyboard to play games since then
This would be the perfect controller if it had a gyroscope, a right trigger, and Bluetooth connectivity. 💔 But as a mobile gamer, I really think this concept is amazing.
It's only compatible with a small handful of games on Xbox Series. Let me know if it works for RE4R. I'm trying to hook it up to my Cronus zen to play games that are not compatible
@@ramonaltamirano340 I got it but ended up sending it back, it works well but the aiming was kind of hard cause the sensitivity on it wasn't the best. But then again I only messed with it for so long.
@@theoldcorporal Lol I have played the heck out of it. I have carpal tunnel in both my wrists cause of the kind of work I did for so many years and my hands get numb, it's hard to control the thumb stick on modern controllers unfortunately, so thought this controller would be good. It is a fantastic controller, it automatically set itself up as soon as I plugged it in, and would normally work well for those with issues in their right hand I think, those that can't effectively control a computer mouse to aim, I hope one day they come out with a backwards version, with the buttons on the right and the control pad on the left.
I used to be pro player in Apex Legends Mobile and i would absolutly beam even with aa turned off. I got good at M&K, BUT i belive my peak is in my finger and i think i'll enjoy it a lot.
Mobile gamers will love this controller for sure. It's literally bringing mobile fps controls to PC (but you get physical buttons and left analog). Which in my opinion is way better for aiming than a regular controller (worse than kb&m obvi). I've always wondered why no one replaced right analog stick for a touchpad yet. I think it was about time someone did this, but it needs improvement for sure. This also needs to become a standard for consoles imo. This is the next step for console controllers that should've happened years ago.
I have a question about this if someone that has the controller might be able to answer. I got some nerve damage in my right arm that makes using my thumb on right hand painful at times. I see usually touchpad was using the thumb but what I want to know it would work with a finger such as my index or middle finger? If so this might help me with some of the pain I get from playing extended periods of time.
how feasable is quick turning to a flank with touchpad controls? this seems appealing after trying aiming in mobile games, though the range of motion seems to be more precise with this controller
Trackpad is similar to touch screen. I use to play a lot of mobile FPS games with no bots. One example of a game with all players and no bots is Standoff 2. Its pretty much Counter Strike. Touch screen/touchpad is great. I prefer it over a normal controller any day but thats probably because I use to be a hardcore mobile gamer.
Really wish someone would come out with a HIGH END x box style controller with a GOOD QUALITY touch pad... im 45... I stopped gaming for 20 years because I just never could get the precision I wanted with a joystick... my son begged me to play call of duty mobile with him on my Samsung galaxy tab s7+... after a cpuple of months... he stopped playing with me... I got all the kills.... then he switched to a controller... and we still play at the same level even though he can use multiple buttons at the same time and im limited to 2 thumbs... joysticks just suck in my opinion... and the reaction time and precision with my touch screen are much faster and more intuitive... specially for us old school gamers from the Nintendo era😂 we didn't grow up with pressure sensitive joysticks... and many of us just aren't able to adapt well to them
There's actually a way to improve the trackpad, there's an app you can download on the Microsoft store that's like allows you to adjust trackpad input for laptops
I love this controller and the new wireless version. It's great for games that don't have game patch support especially older PC games, which is why I use it the most, and to navigate windows without a keyboard and mouse. I originally use the steam controller, but I have problems with it on windows because for some reason games that had support had no problems with it, but older games that didn't had suport made the steam controller freaked out and didn't registered it however, on Linux, I don't have this problem for some reason.
So I'm actually currently working on the steam controller video The reason why it doesn't work well in Windows is because it uses multiple inputs at once so windows wants to recognize the mouse input but also recognizes the Xbox input and it freaks it out. Versus the dark walker that is just a keyboard and mouse
@@carlosbarreto4695 Yes and I love it too but for both controllers I have the Darkwalker branded version not this one, wish honestly I don't know which one is the original brand
This is a very very niche usecase but this controller would probably be really good for emulating Kid Icarus Uprising, it's layout seems perfect for it, and way more comfortable than playing on an actual 3DS.
wow amazing review. very thorough. I bought the new wireless version, and i can't find any review on it .. I'm curious on how it performs using gyro.. I'd love to see you review it so I'm subscribing. I bought mine because i use my mini pc as a console hooked on a tv. Using mouse and keyboard is just too messy and unpractical for me. I also found myself avoiding many games i always wanted to play simply because they lack full controller support, I'm glad to know you think it's great for this purpose.
I really want to use the trackpad as arrow keys to play Muhshihimesama (and other shmups) because trackpad is the most precise input I have ever tried for Shmups (Danmaku Unlimited II on my mobile phone)
which controller mouse combo do you use if I may ask? Ive been searching for the best hybrid type device for gaming. was looking at the fragfx shark or fragfx piranha
you can use this easy with some "twin stick" shooter for PC that doesn't support controllers, starbound, terraria, gunscape, postal, monaco, hotline miami, you could barely tell the difference if those game support only keyboard or have some controller support, on the other hand, I get a bit of a whiplash after returning to assassin's creed seeing how different keyboard users have a different experience from gamepad users, I first play black flag in xbox and barely played any other games on PC, I had AC Unity and Sindicate sitting on my library, playing them both back-to-back with a bluetooth controller and using the shotpad (and watch dogs 2 for good measure) it genuenly left me awestruck for a moment how much the exact same game is different depending on the keyboard or gamepad you're using
Does it work on Android? I want a controller to play both pc and phone with and that includes a touchpad for aiming. If this one works or if anyother does pls tell me
How is this for productivity? I have fdup hand from years of work and play on mise and keyboards. Would you recommend this for editing, 3d, Photoshop ect?
Great review - does anybody know if it would work on game The Long Dark on Xbox? Have been playing it for years on my PC with mouse but would like sit on sofa and play on my big TV.
I need this. I actually use a controller for call of duty mobile the ones that latch on the side of your phone like a switch vibe but when I aim I actually use the touch screen instead of the analog stick and this is really smart I hope they make one for android. It's better than aiming with an analog stick. But for now, touch screen aiming is also great. I use the buttons only for walking reload etc. But for aiming it's the touch screen. Edit: the best controller though is still a mouse for recoil a controller sucks. But this game pad i can work with.
I need one so bad cause my joystick have bad drift right now for play hard like im trying to win a prize lol 😂 after putting that work in on call of duty online matches
I was literally just scrolling through the comments checking to see if anyone else commented about his talking speed lol. Sounded like he was either reading something or he was freezing mid sentence to try to think of a better word to use to sound more intelligent or something lol this comment is super relatable 😂
Maybe because Steam Controller is expensive right now, it doesn't work on consoles without additional hardware like Chronus Max Plus and apparently has some issues with old Keyboard & Mouse Windows games. So there are circumstances where this controller may be a better fit.
There's also an app that you can download, that's for touchpad devices and it allows you to tune it more precise but I didn't find this out till after I made the video
@@Ignitablecub hello,does double tapping on the touch pad counts as a left click?to me that seems like the most comfortable way to play fps games,track with the touchpad and double tap to shoot.i hope it does but if it doesn't I'd have to go with the flydigi apex 2 which has motion control.
I hope the company that made this controller keeps improving it to the point that its a real viable replacement for keyboard and mouse for shooters.
Bro hopefully it's being put out by two different companies I'm not sure which one actually makes it
@@Ignitablecub Three now.
Someone in some factory in China came up with this.
this is so neat, ive always digged these homemade touchpad controllers from other youtubers back then and seeing one more fleshed out like this today is a nice refresh, i also always had the wish of a more layback way to play competitive fps with a controller with better aiming but still the touchpad isn't as good as i thought. So I found another way to do it thats still pretty underestimated which is controllers with motion controls, ive never returned to the keyboard to play games since then
supposedly theyre coming out with a new version of this shotpad / ifyoo gtp-01 with wireless and gyro aiming soon.
@@haroldgarrett2932 how do you know and where can I look up this info kind sir
@@Ice-Sik-ill darkwalker said it in the comments of one of their CZcams videos. i don't remember which video sorry
@Harold Garrett thanks bro, I'll find it one way ar another!
Thanks for the review. Was just wondering if you noticed any input latency with this controller
Honestly not at all
If the game pad had a wheel+gyro to play with flick stick it would be a better substitution to mouse and keyboard.
Yeah that's a pretty good idea
Isn't that a wheel under the touch pad?
Love your shirt!!! Nice review
This would be the perfect controller if it had a gyroscope, a right trigger, and Bluetooth connectivity. 💔
But as a mobile gamer, I really think this concept is amazing.
Why kind of dumb ass controller made for shooters but has no right trigger?
@@zZiL341yRj736 ikr? facepalm.
Thinking about getting this for Resident Evil 4 Remake.
Gooooo for it
It's only compatible with a small handful of games on Xbox Series. Let me know if it works for RE4R. I'm trying to hook it up to my Cronus zen to play games that are not compatible
@@ramonaltamirano340 I got it but ended up sending it back, it works well but the aiming was kind of hard cause the sensitivity on it wasn't the best. But then again I only messed with it for so long.
Hori crap! That is the first game that came to mind...
@@theoldcorporal Lol I have played the heck out of it. I have carpal tunnel in both my wrists cause of the kind of work I did for so many years and my hands get numb, it's hard to control the thumb stick on modern controllers unfortunately, so thought this controller would be good. It is a fantastic controller, it automatically set itself up as soon as I plugged it in, and would normally work well for those with issues in their right hand I think, those that can't effectively control a computer mouse to aim, I hope one day they come out with a backwards version, with the buttons on the right and the control pad on the left.
I used to be pro player in Apex Legends Mobile and i would absolutly beam even with aa turned off. I got good at M&K, BUT i belive my peak is in my finger and i think i'll enjoy it a lot.
What are waffleing about what league for mobile was there tf
Imagine someone makes this but with a super high quality touch pad and make it god tier.
That's what I'm saying
Mobile gamers will love this controller for sure. It's literally bringing mobile fps controls to PC (but you get physical buttons and left analog).
Which in my opinion is way better for aiming than a regular controller (worse than kb&m obvi).
I've always wondered why no one replaced right analog stick for a touchpad yet.
I think it was about time someone did this, but it needs improvement for sure. This also needs to become a standard for consoles imo. This is the next step for console controllers that should've happened years ago.
I have a question about this if someone that has the controller might be able to answer. I got some nerve damage in my right arm that makes using my thumb on right hand painful at times. I see usually touchpad was using the thumb but what I want to know it would work with a finger such as my index or middle finger? If so this might help me with some of the pain I get from playing extended periods of time.
Yes, it will work with any figure…may be awkward but after awhile you will get use to however your playing
What if you use thumb sleeves ?
Wondering what I would need to get to use this on console siege due to restrictions!
Looks pretty cool, the layout has me thinking it would be pretty useful for "rail" shooting games like Rez, Sin & Punishment or Panzer Dragoon
Is it the same that llNE brand ???? Can i play Battlefield 2042 on series X ???
how feasable is quick turning to a flank with touchpad controls? this seems appealing after trying aiming in mobile games, though the range of motion seems to be more precise with this controller
Trackpad is similar to touch screen.
I use to play a lot of mobile FPS games with no bots. One example of a game with all players and no bots is Standoff 2. Its pretty much Counter Strike.
Touch screen/touchpad is great. I prefer it over a normal controller any day but thats probably because I use to be a hardcore mobile gamer.
I have some videos of Standoff 2 if you're interested to see more examples of touch screen which is literally the same as a track pad.
Really wish someone would come out with a HIGH END x box style controller with a GOOD QUALITY touch pad... im 45... I stopped gaming for 20 years because I just never could get the precision I wanted with a joystick... my son begged me to play call of duty mobile with him on my Samsung galaxy tab s7+... after a cpuple of months... he stopped playing with me... I got all the kills.... then he switched to a controller... and we still play at the same level even though he can use multiple buttons at the same time and im limited to 2 thumbs... joysticks just suck in my opinion... and the reaction time and precision with my touch screen are much faster and more intuitive... specially for us old school gamers from the Nintendo era😂 we didn't grow up with pressure sensitive joysticks... and many of us just aren't able to adapt well to them
I feel you there man there needs to be more touchpad controllers like the steam controller and the dark walker
The function key should be moved behind as a back button, so your thumbs don't have to move in a pinch.
Can I use this as a mouse when I'm not gaming? Like on my desktop
Yes you can
2:03 oh great! it's held back by it's most important selling point!
There's actually a way to improve the trackpad, there's an app you can download on the Microsoft store that's like allows you to adjust trackpad input for laptops
I love this controller and the new wireless version. It's great for games that don't have game patch support especially older PC games, which is why I use it the most, and to navigate windows without a keyboard and mouse. I originally use the steam controller, but I have problems with it on windows because for some reason games that had support had no problems with it, but older games that didn't had suport made the steam controller freaked out and didn't registered it however, on Linux, I don't have this problem for some reason.
So I'm actually currently working on the steam controller video The reason why it doesn't work well in Windows is because it uses multiple inputs at once so windows wants to recognize the mouse input but also recognizes the Xbox input and it freaks it out. Versus the dark walker that is just a keyboard and mouse
Do you have the wireless version as well?
@@carlosbarreto4695
Yes and I love it just as well
@@carlosbarreto4695
Yes and I love it too but for both controllers I have the Darkwalker branded version not this one, wish honestly I don't know which one is the original brand
@@ricky865 Have you been playing with it? If so, what's your opinion about it so far?
This is a very very niche usecase but this controller would probably be really good for emulating Kid Icarus Uprising, it's layout seems perfect for it, and way more comfortable than playing on an actual 3DS.
You know I didn't even think about that 😂, but for real it probably would have worked pretty well.
wow amazing review. very thorough. I bought the new wireless version, and i can't find any review on it .. I'm curious on how it performs using gyro.. I'd love to see you review it so I'm subscribing.
I bought mine because i use my mini pc as a console hooked on a tv. Using mouse and keyboard is just too messy and unpractical for me. I also found myself avoiding many games i always wanted to play simply because they lack full controller support, I'm glad to know you think it's great for this purpose.
pretty nice info man👍🏻
I really want to use the trackpad as arrow keys to play Muhshihimesama (and other shmups) because trackpad is the most precise input I have ever tried for Shmups (Danmaku Unlimited II on my mobile phone)
May get this for PZ, currently use a controller mouse combo now. So this should do the trick
which controller mouse combo do you use if I may ask? Ive been searching for the best hybrid type device for gaming. was looking at the fragfx shark or fragfx piranha
Do you know how to change the sens on the trackpad?
I've bit the bullet and decided to learn how to use this controller but I haven't managed to figure out what the 4 less do/represent, any ideas?
This gamepad touchpad is better than dualsense touchpad?
gyro is must for touchpad controller
you can use this easy with some "twin stick" shooter for PC that doesn't support controllers, starbound, terraria, gunscape, postal, monaco, hotline miami, you could barely tell the difference if those game support only keyboard or have some controller support, on the other hand, I get a bit of a whiplash after returning to assassin's creed seeing how different keyboard users have a different experience from gamepad users, I first play black flag in xbox and barely played any other games on PC, I had AC Unity and Sindicate sitting on my library, playing them both back-to-back with a bluetooth controller and using the shotpad (and watch dogs 2 for good measure) it genuenly left me awestruck for a moment how much the exact same game is different depending on the keyboard or gamepad you're using
Does it work on Android? I want a controller to play both pc and phone with and that includes a touchpad for aiming. If this one works or if anyother does pls tell me
How is this for productivity? I have fdup hand from years of work and play on mise and keyboards. Would you recommend this for editing, 3d, Photoshop ect?
I was wondering this as well. Could be really cool.
I am totally gonna get one soon as I get the cash. :)
Let's go!
Great review - does anybody know if it would work on game The Long Dark on Xbox? Have been playing it for years on my PC with mouse but would like sit on sofa and play on my big TV.
I need this. I actually use a controller for call of duty mobile the ones that latch on the side of your phone like a switch vibe but when I aim I actually use the touch screen instead of the analog stick and this is really smart I hope they make one for android. It's better than aiming with an analog stick. But for now, touch screen aiming is also great. I use the buttons only for walking reload etc. But for aiming it's the touch screen.
Edit: the best controller though is still a mouse for recoil a controller sucks. But this game pad i can work with.
I need one so bad cause my joystick have bad drift right now for play hard like im trying to win a prize lol 😂 after putting that work in on call of duty online matches
Is it have gyroscope?
Will this work on Eldon Ring
Yes sir
This is work for my phone??.
GREAT VIDEO❤ THANKSSS
So this device is technically a keyboard and mouse so if the phone is able to support mouse and keyboard I guess it would work
@@Ignitablecubexelent!!❤
But, you can make a video using in a phone, android or iphone whatever.😊
I apreciate
Do you think this controller would work well with a game like War Thunder?
Probably not unfortunately
steamdeck ?
This is probably good to play on games that doesn't support controller for PC like PUBG in example. And there are others of the same manner
pubg still doesn’t have controller support on pc? despite being on console for ages now?
you sure? that sounds weird 🤨
@@mkv2718 PUBG has full controller support. Played it once, didnt' like it. Not that it's a bad game, I'm just not much into online gaming.
It needs a gyro to be viable
Thanks for the review. had to watch it at 1.25x though
I was literally just scrolling through the comments checking to see if anyone else commented about his talking speed lol. Sounded like he was either reading something or he was freezing mid sentence to try to think of a better word to use to sound more intelligent or something lol this comment is super relatable 😂
Lmao, yeah this is one of my few scripted videos It's a little rough for me at the moment 😭😂.
@@Ignitablecub it’s a good review regardless. I’m sure the next ones are only gonna get better
Can I buy you an activation key for your Windows?
Noooooioo
Does this enable aim assist in modern warfare 3?
No this thing is technically a keyboard of mouse
He lost me at Pacifically. I'm more about doing things Atlantically. Specifically the ocean portion.
I wanna buy this for cyber punk!
Go for it!
It can replace the steam controller AS LONG as they add GYRO
The only real drawback is the touchpad? Such a “minor” detail on a trackpad controller… sheesh
here!
Ayo
Why not just use the steam controller
Maybe because Steam Controller is expensive right now, it doesn't work on consoles without additional hardware like Chronus Max Plus and apparently has some issues with old Keyboard & Mouse Windows games.
So there are circumstances where this controller may be a better fit.
maybe more sensitivity for shooters
There's also an app that you can download, that's for touchpad devices and it allows you to tune it more precise but I didn't find this out till after I made the video
2:32 sounds like a skill issue 😂
This work on mobile?
I honestly have no idea
Do u get aim assit using this controller
I wish!
I’m Getting This For Roblox!
Actually I won't recommend anyone this controller
Hell yeah!
Can you even use it on mobile games?? Like on the phone?
@@Hermes8A8A I doubt personally I won't recommend you to buy this
@@Hermes8A8AHow would you do that with a wired controller? You wouldn't.
@@KingDoyle1996USB-C to USB A adapter or a USB hub
Who wants a high recoil gun?
Couldn’t make it through this video with all the janky sentences
Understandable, I've been trying to improve my writing.
Oh I bet not PS5 games though
No way anyone uses this in a competitive environment no way could this thing be faster than a controller that literally everyone has used before.
I know you’re trying but grammar
My Dualsense and Gyro works fine, what the fuck is this thing?
A very bizarre controller, I think they were trying to mimic the steam controller
On second thought I regret buying this, my recommendation is just get steam deck
Literally any gyro controller would dominate this monstrosity in an instant.
I would definitely say keyboard and mouse but not dyro
@@Ignitablecub heavy gyro users will know exactly what I mean
Add Gyro to it and you have the steam controller.
@@IgnitablecubSeems pretty likely you’ve never used gyro then
@@CandarianGaming Only non gyro people think gyro is bad for aiming, get good enough with gyro and its basically another mouse
Wear a thumbsock and problem solved on sensitivity and recoil
Ohhhhh, You know what I didn't think about that
@@Ignitablecub hello,does double tapping on the touch pad counts as a left click?to me that seems like the most comfortable way to play fps games,track with the touchpad and double tap to shoot.i hope it does but if it doesn't I'd have to go with the flydigi apex 2 which has motion control.
Is it wireless though!
There is a version
So is thing the N64's controller ugly stepchild twice removed?