I am not sure Lord Acton would disagree with your statement, though I would think what he means to convey is that power tends to bring the worst out of people. This is, in my opinion, regardless of whether or not said "corruption" springs from nature or nurture. Thank you for taking the time to watch, and even respond; I hope the video was enjoyable!
I'd love to see you do a more in depth video on Marcus Aurelius where you show how he displayed his philosophy and stoicism throughout his time as ruler
I just wanted to say that it BOGGLES my mind that you have 91 (including me) subscribers. I'm telling you, if you keep on making videos of this quality so frequently you WILL blow up at some point! Good luck from Sweden :)
I am grateful for your kind words. This channel is most definitely still in its infancy ; however I feel it is picking up over these past couple weeks. I have a feeling CZcams growth is very much a compounding effect. Thanks again for your support!
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I would add George Washington (who refused to be crowned monarch...which at once may exempt him from this list for not being a monarch, while at the same time proving him to be a great leader and why he should be on any list of Humanity's greatest rulers) and Asoka, an Indian monarch who was one of the most enlightened of recorded history.
I have watched most of his lectures, wonderful speaker! I am unsure as to when I listened to it; however I am certain I have sometime within the last 2 years or so. Thanks for watching!
I'm 2 years late, but I think Emperor Wen of Sui Dynasty is working his way there. Unfortunately, his wife's death affected him a lot and he made quite a few questionable rulings afterward. Edit: That being said, I'm not sure if he did focus on literature/philosophy during his rule.
Hmm, I wouldn't say you are crazy. But in regards to studies I think where most individuals who have obtained power go astray is moral character. Focus on that first, as even if not a king it remains a valuable asset to have in life.
Let me see if I can remember what Plato said in The Republic about the education of a philosopher king. First he/she (I say she as well, even though it is stated as king, because there are not barriers of sex in his Utopia) is to start with 10 years of physical education mixed with music (this starts from the age of 10 I believe). At the age of 20 there shall be a great elimination wherein some are weeded out with a test of sorts). Following this 10 more years of education shall be given, then at the age of 30 the second, more vigorous test, or great elimination shall be administered). Those who are left after these 2 eliminations shall begin to study philosophy for 5 years. At the age of 35 those who have proven themselves will now be sent into the world to study from the book of life itself for 15 years. Finally at the age of 50, for those who have proven themselves, they will automatically be given the title guardian of the state (or philosopher king/kings). Hope this rough rendition helps a bit haha.
I mean he's kinda the go to guy. If the meditations were not published we wouldn't even know of his true ideologies and thoughts so he is unequivalce seen as the greatest leader/thinker. The only others are philosophers but they never held government power.
Augustus I may consider, though Khan I would have to research a bit more. I was unaware that he held any philosophical tendencies, meaning the traits which would make for a platonic philosopher king. Thank you for watching till the end and responding!
I believe that King Solomon of Israel would be a runner up for the list. However, it is true that he was overindulgent in his romantic life and estate holdings.
I believe he would have been a good addition, though I do not know much about him in respect to his philosophical beliefs. Though I believe his reign was one of religious magnanimity rather than that of the philosophic type. Thanks for taking the time to give this suggestion, cheers friend I hope you found the video enjoyable!
He was the most wise philosopher King of all time. Pagan and secular rulers from around the World and had no belief in His God at all traveled from every Kingdom on earth to be mentored by Him on historical record. If you want to know His teachings just type in WORD OF PROMISE AUDIO BIBLE PROVERBS AND ECCELESIASTES and those are basically Solomons versions of Marcus Aurelius Reflection and Meditations etc books.
Interesting, I know nothing of the man other than what I gleamed from a quick google search. He was far before my time, I was only in primary school when he passed! Cheers for taking the time to watch and comment, thank you for the support!
@@LetsTalkPhilosophy I was young too when he passed. They did a swear campaign against him implying he was raciest since he was against civil right provisions, but he was against the provisions because he wanted everyone to be equal under the law and was against groups of people having their own law sets. We can see this issue today when it comes to hate crimes and other areas, such as college.
I suppose one could define philosopher king in whichever way they prefer. But to answer your question I am quite certain that he does not come remotely close to the Platonic Philosopher King. He would be more akin to Caligula, or perhaps Tiberius.
No. Ideology is not Philosophy. Philosophy is understanding truths of the world, Nazism is reaffirming beliefs of the state, usually by force. Considering that Plato mentor Socrates was executed by the state for his beliefs, Plato would likely hate Hitler for his abuse of power.
Power doesn’t corrupt
Power tends to reveals what’s true in nature
I am not sure Lord Acton would disagree with your statement, though I would think what he means to convey is that power tends to bring the worst out of people. This is, in my opinion, regardless of whether or not said "corruption" springs from nature or nurture. Thank you for taking the time to watch, and even respond; I hope the video was enjoyable!
I'd love to see you do a more in depth video on Marcus Aurelius where you show how he displayed his philosophy and stoicism throughout his time as ruler
Thank you for the idea, I hope you enjoyed the video!
Me too
I just wanted to say that it BOGGLES my mind that you have 91 (including me) subscribers. I'm telling you, if you keep on making videos of this quality so frequently you WILL blow up at some point! Good luck from Sweden :)
I am grateful for your kind words. This channel is most definitely still in its infancy ; however I feel it is picking up over these past couple weeks. I have a feeling CZcams growth is very much a compounding effect. Thanks again for your support!
You are definitely a Prophet John Doe.
it's over 9 thousand now!
Marcus Aurelius, Khosrow, Cyrus…I subscribed
Cheers friend!
I always learn something new. Thank you!
Always good hearing from you Russell, and as always thank you for your continued support!
Jose Mujica, former President of Uruguay, was a stoic philosopher.
I know of the man, but not as much as I probably should, thanks for the recommendation.
Quality quality quality i cant wait when you go big
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Marcus Aurelius is unquestionably THE philosopher king
Julian the apostate
Ashoka the Great (304 - 232 BCE) & Nezahualcoyotl (April 28, 1402 - June 4, 1472)
I would add George Washington (who refused to be crowned monarch...which at once may exempt him from this list for not being a monarch, while at the same time proving him to be a great leader and why he should be on any list of Humanity's greatest rulers) and Asoka, an Indian monarch who was one of the most enlightened of recorded history.
Great suggestions!
@@LetsTalkPhilosophy I you do George Washington you must do the icon that inspired him as well. Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
I enjoyed this video. Thank you! And I suggest Ashoka as an addition to the list.
Great addition and I am glad you enjoyed the video. Let me know what type of philosophy videos you enjoy the most!
+Ho Chi Minh
after reading the republic i thought there could be no such king, great vid
Those abyssinian kings before the italian occupation are really smart.
LKY comes to mind.
I am sorry to say that I do not know much of the man, but it seems to me he had quite the life of accomplishment.
You missed a more recent example: Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew.
I think another had mentioned him as well. Thank you for the suggestion.
excellent content sir
Dimitrie Cantemir, Lorenzo and Suleyman the Magnificent are close enough .
Philosopher king nowadays are very rare
I would argue that those who might be able claim likeness that that ideal have always been a rare breed.
Did you watch Michael Sugrue's Lecture on the Stoic Ideal?
I have watched most of his lectures, wonderful speaker! I am unsure as to when I listened to it; however I am certain I have sometime within the last 2 years or so. Thanks for watching!
I agree
I think Pedro the second is deserving of the title too
I'm 2 years late, but I think Emperor Wen of Sui Dynasty is working his way there. Unfortunately, his wife's death affected him a lot and he made quite a few questionable rulings afterward.
Edit: That being said, I'm not sure if he did focus on literature/philosophy during his rule.
I am not familiar with Emperor Wen, thank you for the suggestions. Never to late to make a suggestion of value, cheers!
I am studying to become the Philosopher King. Am i crazy? What do you recommend me the most to focus my studies?
Hmm, I wouldn't say you are crazy. But in regards to studies I think where most individuals who have obtained power go astray is moral character. Focus on that first, as even if not a king it remains a valuable asset to have in life.
what country do you seek to govern?
are there stages of education for philosopher kings?
Let me see if I can remember what Plato said in The Republic about the education of a philosopher king. First he/she (I say she as well, even though it is stated as king, because there are not barriers of sex in his Utopia) is to start with 10 years of physical education mixed with music (this starts from the age of 10 I believe). At the age of 20 there shall be a great elimination wherein some are weeded out with a test of sorts). Following this 10 more years of education shall be given, then at the age of 30 the second, more vigorous test, or great elimination shall be administered). Those who are left after these 2 eliminations shall begin to study philosophy for 5 years. At the age of 35 those who have proven themselves will now be sent into the world to study from the book of life itself for 15 years. Finally at the age of 50, for those who have proven themselves, they will automatically be given the title guardian of the state (or philosopher king/kings). Hope this rough rendition helps a bit haha.
@@LetsTalkPhilosophy thank you. 😄
Your top choice agrees with me 😁and that's not becouse i have him tattooed on my arm 😬haha
Awesome! Glad you were in agreement, MA has always been an inspiration of mine.
I mean he's kinda the go to guy. If the meditations were not published we wouldn't even know of his true ideologies and thoughts so he is unequivalce seen as the greatest leader/thinker. The only others are philosophers but they never held government power.
I would add genghis Khan and Augustus
Augustus I may consider, though Khan I would have to research a bit more. I was unaware that he held any philosophical tendencies, meaning the traits which would make for a platonic philosopher king. Thank you for watching till the end and responding!
King Solomon!
George Bush II , He is now painter.
That is an interesting choice!
Do you know any philosophers king in America history?
I would have to put some thought into it, but certainly none of our contemporaries would make the list.
Maybe Abraham Lincoln?
I believe that King Solomon of Israel would be a runner up for the list. However, it is true that he was overindulgent in his romantic life and estate holdings.
No ruler was perfect, even those I named. Thanks for the recommendation!
King Solomon was The Philosopher King.
I believe he would have been a good addition, though I do not know much about him in respect to his philosophical beliefs. Though I believe his reign was one of religious magnanimity rather than that of the philosophic type. Thanks for taking the time to give this suggestion, cheers friend I hope you found the video enjoyable!
He was the most wise philosopher King of all time. Pagan and secular rulers from around the World and had no belief in His God at all traveled from every Kingdom on earth to be mentored by Him on historical record.
If you want to know His teachings just type in WORD OF PROMISE AUDIO BIBLE PROVERBS AND ECCELESIASTES and those are basically Solomons versions of Marcus Aurelius Reflection and Meditations etc books.
Audio Proverbs
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Audio Ecclesiastes
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There is also Songs of Solomon as well if you wish.
He was also the richest Man who ever lived. Not Mansa Musa or Any Roman Emperor etc contrary to popular belief. As a result of His wisdom.
Barry Goldwater is a great example, too bad he didn't become president due to a rapid propaganda campaign.
Interesting, I know nothing of the man other than what I gleamed from a quick google search. He was far before my time, I was only in primary school when he passed! Cheers for taking the time to watch and comment, thank you for the support!
@@LetsTalkPhilosophy I was young too when he passed. They did a swear campaign against him implying he was raciest since he was against civil right provisions, but he was against the provisions because he wanted everyone to be equal under the law and was against groups of people having their own law sets. We can see this issue today when it comes to hate crimes and other areas, such as college.
How about hitler hes have so many controversy but he have his own philosphi and hes a dictator (similiar with king)
I suppose one could define philosopher king in whichever way they prefer. But to answer your question I am quite certain that he does not come remotely close to the Platonic Philosopher King. He would be more akin to Caligula, or perhaps Tiberius.
No.
Ideology is not Philosophy.
Philosophy is understanding truths of the world, Nazism is reaffirming beliefs of the state, usually by force.
Considering that Plato mentor Socrates was executed by the state for his beliefs, Plato would likely hate Hitler for his abuse of power.