"High End" Security: Equipment and Philosophy
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- People often consider "unarmed security" and "armed security" to be the delineation between high and low end security work in the United States. Some people try to make much about the "Security Guard vs. Security Officer" debate. Today I am doing a little kinda Q&A about many of the questions I get on the channel about doing security contracting. I hope it is informative and gives a slightly different perspective on the industry.
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As a police Field Training Officer (FTO) I get asked my opinion on many topics both by probationary police officers, security folks, and "normal" people. Police Training is of interest to a wide variety of people for many reasons. So many people ask about "High end" security work, but so few know that it is not the gear, car, or title that makes a security contracting job "high end" but the skills required and the criticality of what is being protected.
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Well, yellow is definitely not my color and I'm not exactly at my best at 3am, but I think the message is still valid. Hope you all enjoy!
I really need to lay off the doughnuts...
We do security for alot of the clubs here in my city we do wear uniforms and duty belts on my duty I have mace sure fire flash light 2 pairs of handcuff radio holder and a portable baton my fire arm is a Glock 19 with a tactical light so that what we got on our duty belts im in the process of taking the Taser training so i will be added on to my belt love your video I made some very good points about the job so I'm giving your video a thumbs up
you look fine don’t sweat it
Talking about the security shirt, and being able to be seen reminds me of the first thing I learned in class: "Presence is our first line of defense". We act as a proactive deterrent, and a reactive problem solver (until LEOs or EMTs arrive)
I've just submitted an application to a security company as an unarmed guard, and I happened upon your videos right now while preparing for what will hopefully be my new job. My dad, who was in security, corrections, and law enforcement for about 20 years combined and was my source of advice on these subjects, passed away recently so now I'm having to figure out things on my own for the most part. I have to say your videos have been an immense help. Keep it up!
+CAHiredGun I'm glad they help. I've got plenty more comming.
When I worked unarmed security I always wore a vest, and carried cuffs and a baton. Company policies allowed it, and it was a layer on insurance in case anything happened. That being said my professional attitude, and customer service oriented attitude always worked the best when dealing with undesirables and clients. Which led me to getting great references to get hired by RCMP
+interpol007 Bam! Exactly! Speak softly and carry a big stick...in your case litteraly.
I'm watching this whilst on my security shift :)
+Dominic Broom multitasking!
Your videos have really helped me in my career recently. I work in government facility security and I serve as the security chief for a small non profit. I wouldn't be as successful as I am today if it weren't for your guidance.
You're a good officer and an excellent trainer. 'Rah
+007Vaughn I'm just happy to help. Please just be safe.
Been in private security for 10+ years. You nailed it with this video.
+Michael Henriques glad you liked it brother!
I like the message you're sending. Unarmed security builds character; if you can't do it without a gun, you won't do it with one.
+BlueHyena There's plenty of things I wouldn't do without a gun. But, nobody needs to know I have it.
Guns are WAY over rated. The fact that you are armed should not always affect your level of service or behavior. I've noticed you get a higher level of compliance or a more receptive attitude from the general public, suspects if you are armed. Security can be hard work & there are risks but the focus should be on your skill sets not if you are armed or not.
Presence is the #1 deterent to stoping crime.
I agree with you 100% on all points.
+badjujuR6 glad you lied the vid!
First, I love your videos. I wanted to comment, a "deterrent" is in the mind of the one who was deterred. There is no way to know what will deter a "bad guy" because you can't read their mind, so it is hard to say that if they see you they will choose a different path is not necessarily accurate. I have worked armed and unarmed security for years and of the gear, I carry I would say that my brain, flashlight, pen, and handcuffs are the tools I have used the most (and probably in that order. That does not mean I will never need a weapon and it also does not mean I will. I think that it comes down to preparedness and good judgment.
I really like your content and some of it has helped me in my current job. I'm a security officer looking to get into my local police academy within the next year. Thanks for all u do and keep the videos coming!
Great video sir, I work security at a major theme park. On employee side , to prevent employee theft and access control of gates and buildings.
+Casey Perkinson I'm glad you liked it. Be safe.
free field training You too, and thanks for all you do .
You give some really good information in every video. Well spoken, knowledgable and honest stuff. Couldn't ask for anything better from a channel. Keep up the great work!
+Steckifranic I'm glad you liked it. Please tell your friends.
Another great vid - love the insight from a true professional!!! One state trooper I knew did a lot of side security jobs when he was single. Doing a ton of unarmed security jobs for events to hospital security...however he was called upon to do armed (concealed) executive protection for a CEO at one of the Fortune 500 insurance companies here and he actually left the LE field to become an internal investigator for this insurance company and is still apart of the CEOs protective detail. Thought that was interesting how he switched careers. But he also always got the "you're a cop why would you do unarmed security at a hospital on the weekends???" and the such...
+TheOl1911 There is never any shame in taking a job that pays more...or padding one's resume for later on. I should only hope to be so lucky.
On another note, I can't wait to see how you carry a pug nose as a backup gun!
I can not agree with you more on this topic. I work for a large armored transport company, and the number one deterrence from a potential robbery is how you carry yourself. The gear is an important factor (I'm the only one who regularly wears my vest and uses a safariland retention holster and other duty gear), but how you conduct yourself is your primary asset. Keep up the good work, I always learn something from your videos.
During the past years working security, I experienced and learned a lot of the things you say by heart. The gear I carry has gotten a lot less and is reduced to the essentials I need for a particular job. Even in high stress environments too much gear just slows you down, making you more vulnerable in the end. I really like your idea of workng for non-profits, especially with the long-term benefits in mind
+Andreas Karsten Never hurts to have excellent references and it makes negotiating the price much easier at new jobs too.
Fantastic information! Your channel is becoming one of my favorites. Stay safe out there!
+jsj297 Glad you like it. Please tell you friends and share!
+free field training if I had any friends, i would do so.
+jsj297 lol!
keep up the amazing content. when i stmbled on this page when you started i knew it was the start of sonething amazing!!!
+Wil Young I'm very flattered. Glad you like it.
I worked security at some mobsters funeral. I met the OTHER security for first time they started to " size up" everybody. They asked,okay what " agency you were with". We had to have a pecking order in seconds, so we would know who was in charge to give,take orders. Interesting.
When i did UnArmed Security i loaded 12 F-16s with 2000lbers.....occasionally uploaded sum CBUs or Mavericks.
The Armed Security guy was 70 to 150 meters away and didn't have Nodds....oh how the times have changed.
Security with no pew-pew.....i don't go to the gas station without a pew-pew, but i live in a rougher neighborhood.
That is a tough gig!
EXACTLY! I'm a security professional who doesn't gear himself up like an extra in a Mad Max movie nor drape myself in badges. Clothing yourself with an alert, helpful demeanor is the best way to go.
i enjoyed this video and I too agree what you said. I done unarmed event security as well but I carried a active shooter kit in my trunk as well
+Dan Vein it is hard work!
I work a "security theater" kind of position, where I have no recourse against any real threat, however, I do put on a good show. No weapon? No radio? No Power? No Problem! I've got the look and a commanding voice. That's usually enough. If not, I do wear a vest and slash resistant long johns. That's just common sense.
+EngineerMK2004 a vest is always a good investment.
Yeah you're right. Lot of EGOS in security supervision though. I showed up for a High School prom as a plain clothes security,suit and tie with a micro lapel badge . The "Supervisor" told me I couldn't park in the lot cos it was reserved for the guests. I had to park 2 blocks away in a strange neighbor hood in the dark. I asked the "SUP"(SAM 1), SO You want me to guard the cars in the lot,make sure nothing happens to them but I CAN'T DO SECURITY For My OWN (POV)car?" We hit an impasse so I got "relieved of duty"on the Spot. At least my car Didn't get broken into that night. 10-7.
Career unarmed security here. I make 95k a year and although I have a permit to carry, I've never carried on the job. Communication skills and a professional look and demeanor will go a long way in getting the premium jobs that pay well not carrying a gun. Not saying there isn't value in carrying a gun but it shouldn't be your main concern. Organizations want people who can think clearly and objectively quickly.
Why do you like to lie? Show us proof you make 95k a year or we all already know it’s bull crap
I really wish I'd been told this when I was hired as security way back in the day. I do something totally different now, but if I'd understood what the clients wanted I might still be doing it.
I work unarmed security at a production plant and some people say I take my job too serious. I agree with your philosophy 100%. I am doing it to help pay towards my college. I hope to become an LEO after I get done with school. I am using my security job as more of a learning experience.
+Justin Dilts Learn to be a good employee and LEO jobs will come easily enough. There are lots of crj students and servicemen out there who want to be the police. Excellent workers are harder to find. Be the guy who prior employers will vouch for and better jobs will be much easier to get. You might even find yourself in upper management at a security firm. Some of those jobs pay big bucks.
Thanks for the advice. Stay safe out there.
+Justin Dilts you do the same.
Human problems are solved with human solutions including your body language reading skills. Very well done.
I used to work armed security a few years back, and we bought our own guns, I brought in a 9mm. And my boss seriously thought I was under gunned and needed to upgrade to a larger caliber. I told him if I need to use any thing larger other than a 9mm to get the job done than I'm going to need another job.
Security is like life. 60 percent good and 35 percent bad. 5 percent neutral.
Another good video. I wish I had to wear yellow its a lot easier to keep yellow clean, than it is to keep white clean. Tho one thing I noticed and it kind of goes without saying. If you plan on carrying an asp. Oc spray, handcuffs, ect... You should always check to make sure the company you work for allows you to have them. You may also want to check with the client you are working with.
+Chris Definitely, especially if your state has strong indemnity laws for your industry.
i think you are my brother of security love it thanks
+Herbert Ainsworth Sooo... You are overweight and drink lots of coffee too?
yes its a crazy life the coffee takes over after a while i feel like a zombie sat into sundays is 18 hours shift old mill turn into apts construction zone i have lots of wild animals walking all nite to they dont like coffee just dumster food
+Herbert Ainsworth lol
My guns kind of a deterrent... Once people seen me off-clock with my gun, they stopped screaming at my face, throwing shit around, and being OVERLY aggressive. I've been assaulted 3 times at my job, came across on me and tried to hurt me. After I open-carried for a while these people seen me when I came into the shop and they royally fucked right off with their attitude.
In my experience, and understanding, people who are GOING to shoot me, They are going to shoot me WITH or WITHOUT a gun on my person. We can't nit-pick every situation, Assume everyone is cool, assume everyone is gonna get their shit and leave.... they don't. In this area people would rather hurt you than ask for help. They just don't like me, and being gay defiantly didn't help the situation.
I'd rather run the risk of getting shot once, and living than being stabbed to death unarmed and bleeding out behind the counter. My ASM never had to deal with people like that, he just hasn't. He can't understand for the love of himself why I carry everywhere. My manager however was in a murder-suicide situation, This man got rejected and was getting a divorce and MOST of his guns were taken away and held due to his instability. Nonetheless he got one somewhere, I think it was stolen but nonetheless-- stolen or not he Murdered the cashier.
He murdered the cashier, stuck his head IN BETWEEN the door and door-way, and shot himself in the head, failed- barely missed but did hurt himself badly. Ever sense that day, she's been very aware of people and how they act.
I find that people who HAVE NOT been in a situation where their lives are DIRECTLY in DANGER and BEING KILLED is a possability, people shrug it off and just blow everything off. In MY opinion, If you DON'T want to protect your life, then you are mentally unstable and incapable of using a gun anyways, and shouldn't be allowed to have a gun or a car. There's a reason chickens kill their own sometimes, One bad egg in the flock and destroy it all.
Prevention is name of the game. As you said, it's easy for us to lose sight of that. Especially with the way the world is going today. that's why it's all the more important to have a good tool box mentally than a tool belt wrapped around your waist.
+Jesse Harper Very easy. Once you have that mental belt squared away the belt around the waist becomes far more useful as well.
Great vid as always
+MrFoxracing19 Thanks!
I understand the points in this video but I'd add a few remarks; its valid to do security if you can do unpaid work for non profits but most hourly type employees(other than retirees or disabled veterans) cant just work for free. 💵. Also I've worked for many small companies that push a "high speed" or "high end" agenda then hire/staff brand new guards or people with few if any security skills. I've done this since the 1990s. I'm not being paid to babysit or be a FTO to new security officers.
just discovered your channel this week and subscribed. The way I think of it is security work is more proactive and police officer work is a little more reactive.
+Oscar Ruelas I'm glad you enjoy the vids brother. Which is more reactive and which is more proactive depends on far more than a job title. Many pd's are very proactive, out making stops and such.
True. As far as most security post if the client feels like he is wasting money because there is never any reports to be made aware of than the officer is doing his job (be seen, be heard, observe and report).
What is in the big jar behind you with all the different colors in it?
I'm a port security
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good salary can't complain pays the bill..
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free field training can you keep uploading more videos like this
+big_papi_ORTIZ I am right now.
free field training thanks chief
I do port security usually we have crew ships and cargo ships it pays very well
@@Ortiz_Mzt how much a year? Per hour?
I'm confused . Are you speaking historically , before your PD career , or currently ?
The bread & butter of off duty LE work is working in Uniform . The PD Uniform , with your PD radio, and if your dept does such , your take home cruiser parked conspicuously out front . That's what the clients pay the big bucks for .
Not to say that supporting worthwhile non- profit / community groups isn't a fine and noble thing , and if it's something you want to support gratis as a charitable thing . But that's a totally seperate thing from doing side jobs for money .
No, not here at least. In illinois I'm not allowed to work a side job in uniform and even if it was allowed those types of clients tend to be lower paying than those who want discretion.
In Indiana the dude with he yellow shirt is a dad that pry likes pringals and Miller light the suit is a cop
If one is a leo, do they need security guard certification to do security work?
+KG7YTS That depends on what state you are in. Here in Illinois I don't need a separate certification if I am working independently, though when working for a company they often require it for insurance and contractual reasons. In nearby Indiana the security industry is almost completely unrelated, nobody needs a certification or license as far as I know. In California even full time police officers have to get a guard card to work security on the side.
Depends on your state. Every state has different license requirements, and some have almost none.
Great video man
Thanks feild
+Eamonn Moloney You are very welcome.
You could make a video about tips and advice on guys joining the police academy? I'm in and it starts in December I think I'm prepared but any advice on what to expect would be very much appreciated. Thanks a lot from Cincinnati Ohio
+Jeremy Barnes I've been shooting one a little bit at a time for months. Not done yet and it isn't going fast.
So. I'll give you the best advice I can right here. Be far more physically prepared than what is required going in. You want to to be a breeze. You want to be thinking about HOW to do a thing not IF you can. That will make the academy much easier.
Off topic, but I just been appointed as a FTO for my ambulance company, can you recommend any literature I can read up on? Any tips you might have, I know we are on different ends of public safety, but hey I'll take any tips I can get.
+emtfarva The best advice I can give you is to always remember what it was like to be the new guy. You will be amazed at the things you take for granted that your trainee will have never heard or seen before.
Tell, show, do, critique, do, critique, do, critique...until they can do it to standards. Do that with everything from putting on rubber gloves to the most technical thing you do. That way nothing gets missed.
Tell them dirty and they will remember.
Don't yell at them for messing up. If yelling gets the point across that means either you aren't teaching them using the right learning structure normally or they are not going to get it because they didn't want to learn the first time.
I could go on for days but that's the gist of it.
+emtfarva oh yeah, and don't forget to have fun. Fun is a powerful learning tool.
+free field training I try every day to have fun... We both have a hard job, if we can't learn to decompress or let thing slide off of us, we would not be good. I have had trainees in the past (my company just put into place a different FTO program). I always try make it fun.
+emtfarva Good luck!
free field training thank you, and thanks for the tip... I believe it will come in handy
you know I agree with you I tend to always wear button down shirts lucky the director of operations where I'm at wears the same shirt size so I got a whole bunch of shirts with company logos and I did wear a tie with these shirts but stopped, and I always were a navy beanie that says security and my navy security coat, I work in a forest so its always cold even in the summer. I just wish that I had a shoe allowance..
+Anastacio Rodriguez Looks matter more than people like to admit.
true true, hey do you have any videos about dealing with mentally ill persons while on duty I have some prior experience I also heard about the tin foil trick too.. But anything really helps.
+Anastacio Rodriguez I'm working on it. That is tough subject S each individual you meet who has a mental illness is going to be different. And autistic kid is going to react differently to the police than an old lady with dementia or a bipolar schizophrenic.
do you have a video on armed security work.
such as what you carry in your duty belt for a armed security detail.
+jonathan sanchez I was armed while I was doing that job. I was carrying the UK usp in a vedder light tuck. Armed and unarmed security is substantially the same job, unless you are working at a nuclear facility. The only outward difference is openly carrying a gun. I touch on a few of the ancillary concerns here:
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I don't have any particular setup for armed security because the look the client wants can be quite different depending on a variety of issues. Everything from "we don't want people to know" like in this video to "this is super dangerous do what you need to do" like when doing jewelry transports. I might look a little closer on some of the gear I use for openly carrying armed security in the future.
thanks
+jonathan sanchez you are very welcome
do you keep an active shooter kit: plates ar pistol with you just in case with a blow out kit "nasal trumpets, trauma", survival.
+Dan Vein yep :czcams.com/video/Qp0FxBWXRis/video.html
Jesus christ, the free field training mug really DOES go everywhere - at least viewers will know the best way to identify you.
Just a random blurb - I believe in being excellent without tools despite your field but be terrifying when you DO have your tools. (general you, not specifically you)
+Gheert Sadly my wife has forced a retirement of the old mug due to it looking "disgusting" and "ghetto" (her words). So I bought a new identical mug.
I couldn't agree more. Our tools should be an augmentation to our skills not a replacement for them.
Prevention is very important. I am supposed to observe and report most of the time as all of us. I typically call dispatch at least once a night. With simple things. I am sure they are thinking what dose this guy want now but at the end of the night i can sleep peacefully. knowing that i could have saved someone for having things stolen or many other things just by being at work that night.
+Chris Prevention is definitely job #1 at nearly all posts.
great vid.
+DAVID DEMCHAK glad you liked it.
Where did you find that photo of the security with his gut hanging out? Good laugh.
Hey field I need a holster for airsoft what's a good brand that u use
I would recommend a good "Serpa" holster by Blackhawk it is pretty affordable and it comes in many different gun styles. just find one good for your gun.
+Eamonn Moloney I have to agree with Gordon show on this one. A serpa "sport" sounds perfect for your purposes.
You want to hire high-end security a military veteran, we are cheap.No really, we are.
Will you make a video about me
+Drake Clark The DPD buddy, when you get a job as a cop I'd be happy to. Until then you just keep doing what you are doing. You'll get there.
Does any of you fine esquires and intellects know of any fashionably functional basket weave holsters for the oh-so-sleek-and-sexy Taser C2 bowel mover?
+Daniel Craig. H I have not.
Tragic, It would have looked uniformed and such on my off duty belt too, 26c is a little to obtrusive for what I do... Guess it'll do for now
+Daniel Craig. H taser hasn't been into basketweave for a few years now. There isn't even a basketweave holster available for the x26p.
+free field training (Not including the few polymer holsters stamped with a B.W. design) Sadly, you are correct. I have found something that I might try though. A holster made of synthetic leather for the C2 in a nice basket weave finish. The only down to it is the manufact's reputable standing. I've read a few quality reviews claiming poor use of stitching and materal and retention that is almost non exsistent.
If you ever find such an item within the category, please do inform. I am confident that many LEOs and SOs have been attently in search for the thing. Hopefully yourself may not return fruitless just as I have.
+Daniel Craig. H I've been on the look out for a viable option for an off duty taser for quite some time and have always come up dry. I was hoping the pulse with an IWB holster would be a great option. Haven't gotten into one yet though.
In My Country The Police Aint Even Armed
Security jobs pay shit. Even you own a security company you'll go broke. Why spend your crap paycheck on a belt worth of expensive shit so you can play police man. Ive worked as a armed officer more than once and I would gladly take a job as a claims adjuster and make better money then standing post for $13 an hour.
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