What is Duginism? #1 | Russian imperialism

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  • Aleksandr Gel’yevich Dugin is a Russian political theorist known for an ideology he has formed entitled the Fourth Political Theory. Commentators on Dugin typically identify his views as a radical far right fascism, founded in Eurasian identitarianism, Russian irridentism, a form of imperialism, and a desire for traditionalism and ethnic purity.
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    00:07 Introduction
    01:19 Dugin's Fourth Political Theory
    02:46 Traditional culture & religion
    04:29 Eurasianism
    11:29 Russian irredentism
    16:02 Rejection of modernity
    17:46 Conclusion
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Komentáře • 111

  • @nguyenhoangnam8609
    @nguyenhoangnam8609 Před rokem +20

    Excellent work as always!

  • @AnarchoPurp
    @AnarchoPurp Před rokem +17

    It's great to see you do a deep dive on this guy. More people need to understand his pernicious influence on Russian politics.
    Btw, bro are you speaking Elvish at 5:11?

  • @kingusernamelxixthemagnificent

    Was Dugin's ideology inspired by Konstantin Rodzaevsky's in any way?

  • @kierangorman3052
    @kierangorman3052 Před rokem +43

    The most contradictory element of Dugin's ideology to me was always that he complains about Western influence being "imperialist" whilst at the same time openly declaring his goal to be the recreation of an empire. Is that not the most literal meaning of imperialism possible: building an empire through conquest?

    • @kierangorman3052
      @kierangorman3052 Před rokem

      @@jhngrg8132 Shut up, fascist.

    • @Lumeone
      @Lumeone Před rokem +9

      Maybe this proves that someone misread his work and simply does not understand it?

    • @kierangorman3052
      @kierangorman3052 Před rokem +23

      @@Lumeone No, I understand exactly what he means, he just constantly contradicts himself and has openly admitted he doesn't care about consistency in his arguments.
      Dugin doesn't believe in objective good or objective evil, he's a moral relativist. To him, imperialism is bad when Russia's rivals do it but good when Russia does it. And the same goes for everything else for Dugin: if it benefits the Russuan state, it's good, if it works against Russia's political agenda, it's bad.

    • @haobinlu
      @haobinlu Před rokem +7

      ​@@kierangorman3052 nope

    • @mkworkgroupis1739
      @mkworkgroupis1739 Před rokem +2

      you are spot on. what he is doing i respect. he is adopting the narcissistic mindset of any successful empire be it Acadian, roman , British or usa whereby due to the ammoralism you say other empires are bad (for us) our empire is good (for us) and when your enemy or client state show confusion or contempt at your self righteous position you state "are you not aware of the glory of Rome" or "its just destiny...manifest destiny).
      if Russia fails to adopt this mindset it will always be at the underdog to those that do adopt this mindset like usa, china and Semitics.

  • @Lacertos
    @Lacertos Před 9 měsíci +12

    Dugin has very little influence in Russia. He has managed to promote himself as this behind the shadows ideologue in the West, but people in Russia typically don't even know who he is, even educated people, his books do not sell well in the country, he doesn't have a huge platform to speak on, etc.
    The views that coincide with the current Russian government are not originally from Dugon, but from a variety of Russian symbolists, slavophiles, religious thinkers and philosophers, such as Ilyin, Soloviev, Leontiev and Berdyaev. Dugin simply pick and choose from these theories in order to develop his own.

    • @veritasetcaritas
      @veritasetcaritas  Před 9 měsíci +5

      Thanks, this is all covered in the two videos I have made, which say the same thing. In the third video I'll be explaining how little influence Dugin has in Russia, but how he is better known and more influential outside Russia.

  • @Whoo711
    @Whoo711 Před rokem +42

    WOW! That quote by Dugin about Nazbol being "socialism" without... what actually makes it socialism, more or less, is SO REVEALING! It's like he just admitted that Nazbol is "another version of National Socialism", or something.
    Meanwhile, "big-time socialist" idiots like Haz, Jackson Hinkle and Caleb Maupin, for one reason or another, continue to sing Dugin's praises unironically. Very sus...
    🤔🤔🤔

    • @vaibhavsajith4267
      @vaibhavsajith4267 Před rokem +2

      You would know that dugin isn't a nazbol anymore

    • @donniedewitt9878
      @donniedewitt9878 Před rokem +3

      Socialism doesn’t require progressive doctrine

    • @darkphoenix8941
      @darkphoenix8941 Před rokem +2

      National Bolchevism is socialist only in the economic model.National Bolchevism isn't a Branch of Socialism is an ideology that combines Ultranationalism and Soviet's planned economy

    • @clintwood731
      @clintwood731 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@donniedewitt9878Yes, it needs bitch. People need social progress to thrive, touch some grass

    • @dftp
      @dftp Před 7 měsíci +5

      ​​@@donniedewitt9878Yes it does. The entire point of Socialism is progressing past Capitalism and economic hierarchy and that also requires abolishing sexism, racism, xenophobia, homophobia etc. as completely as possible. Clearly progressive "doctrines"

  • @__-vb3ht
    @__-vb3ht Před rokem +5

    The video is very well written, but the layout is very distracting. There is a mp in the background, with a diagram that is also mostly in the background, but that we can't read the most important quarter of, there's a tiny text and a citation beneath it. Then there are pictures, sometimes multiple, some of which also contain book titles. It's all very hard to follow. I know as anarchists, we are opposed to hierarchy, but in agraphic design some visual hierarchy goes along way. Eliminating the superflous background graphic or making it less prominent should be the first step. After that comes the colour and size of elements and layout in accordance with the writing direction of the language used. Where individual elements are placed in relationship to each other informs what belongs together and what is extra information. Digital tools tend to lead many people to place more and more elements without a clear structure. I know it takes restraint and a conscious effort to look at one's work from the outside, like all forms of communication where you have a clear overview of what is being said but the information is new for the audience. I hope this helps for future videos, have a blessed day

    • @__-vb3ht
      @__-vb3ht Před rokem

      You could also highlight the part of the quote you read out loud, so that people know where to follow along and what is "extracuricular" information

  • @__-vb3ht
    @__-vb3ht Před rokem +26

    So he thinks all cultures have their unique ways to which they should return, but also Russia should expand and force their views onto others? And there is some essential Russian quality that unites orthodox christianity, tsarist imperialism and a worldwide communist revolution? He rejects modernity and derives from that that the most ancient state must be the best? But he doesn't want scientific inquiry into the past? I am losing brain cells by listening to this. All these words he uses are meaningless. It's just fluff to prop up what he decided he likes all along. War and cleansing who he sees as undesirables. It's infuriating to see how Christian faith has once again been co-opted into another flavour of fascism

    • @erdood3235
      @erdood3235 Před 6 měsíci

      As a Hebrew ,i disagree with your defense of Christianity.

    • @__-vb3ht
      @__-vb3ht Před 6 měsíci

      @@erdood3235 Why? Do you think Christianiy is inherently fascist?

    • @erdood3235
      @erdood3235 Před 6 měsíci

      @@__-vb3ht I'm a ashkenazi Jew. Guess. Or better yet, learn history

    • @__-vb3ht
      @__-vb3ht Před 6 měsíci

      @@erdood3235 Wow

    • @erdood3235
      @erdood3235 Před 6 měsíci

      @@__-vb3ht what?

  • @FelonyArson
    @FelonyArson Před rokem +8

    3:26 I consider myself a proud member of the FMTD Community! 😎

  • @masterengleza2738
    @masterengleza2738 Před rokem +1

    I know this is unrelated, but what do you think about Iris Chang and her book The Rape of Nanking ? Also what books would you recommend that tackle the subject of Japanese war crimes in World War 2 ?

    • @veritasetcaritas
      @veritasetcaritas  Před rokem +2

      Unfortunately I don't know about Chang and I am unfamiliar with the literature on Japanese war crimes in WW2.

    • @EmmaWithoutOrgans
      @EmmaWithoutOrgans Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@veritasetcaritasThe fact I am so impressed by a youtuber saying they don’t know is a bit sad.
      Been watching a lot of your videos, I really do appreciate the amount of detail and research you do. I’ll stick around, this is great stuff.

    • @veritasetcaritas
      @veritasetcaritas  Před 5 měsíci

      @@EmmaWithoutOrgans thank you!

  • @Gravitedious
    @Gravitedious Před 6 měsíci +2

    He's written over 120 books. Noomakia (wars of the mind) alone has about 20 volumes, most of which are over 700 pages. But supposedly a 20 minute youtube video tells u all u need to know? The more accessible 4pt explicitly rejects racism and fascism.. just look at how actual white supremacists and fascists react to Dugin's work. They hate him and call him a "lover of Jews and Blacks." In his critique of Heidegger's racism, *all peoples* are the thoughts of God and deserving of being treated with respect. It is very understandable to misinterpret Dugin's sourcings of Guenon, Evola, hyperborean theory etc as evidence of "fascist" but he rejects all of their racist and fascist elements which presume to be universal and superior to other human beings. This racism is wrong, says Dugin. How the hell can someone who follows the greatest liberal anthropologists of the West (Levi-strauss, Eduardo Viviero De Castro, Boas, Geertz, Mauss, etc) possibly be a fascist? This renders the term "fascism" in any sense of its historicity meaningless. No fascists gave a shit about anthropologists or rejecting racism. You could say war is inherently fascist, bur given a major aspect of the aim of multipolarity is to *end existing wars started by Western aggression* and build a more balanced, harmonious world order, one should get their facts straight in denoting who exactly is the warmonger in which instance and why.

  • @ilianceroni
    @ilianceroni Před rokem +9

    As much as I think that nazbol are just a form of f@scism (I would call it “post-Soviets Russian f@scism”), the symbol at 1:59 is not a reference to the n@zi, they just use the same original reference (via different evolutions): the Roman empire.
    Ancient Rome used an eagle as symbol of imperial power (even in the republican era, there was a golden eagle on the banner with S.P.Q.R. ≈ “for the senate and the people of Rome”), such symbol was maintained during the Middle Ages especially within the Holy Roman Empire, as it was the HRE banner (black eagle, often with a crown, golden/yellow background). You actually can still find it in many coat of arms of former HRE states or noble families, and even some flags, did not check, but it think it’s still Germany coat of arms and it’s present on the german naval flag. If the 3rd reich was the 3rd one… and which was the first? The one of Frederick Barbarossa, holy roman emperor… guess under which banner he used…
    But as we all know, the Roman empire divided in two, so the west one was “succeeded” by the HRE, but the eastern one, lasted longer, until the ottomans conquered Constantinople/Istanbul, guess who succeeded it, guess who was called “the third Rome”, guess who was the center of the eastern Roman christianity, aka, christian orthodoxy. Yep, the C’zar, which, fun fact, “C’zar” came from the title of the late Roman empire, Caesar (two caesars where the “governors” of two macro region and one Augustus, the emperor), like the German word for emperor, Kaiser, because, again, it was a title in the empire and those states claimed to be their successor.
    It goes without saying, the C’zar too adopted a black eagle with golden background as their coat of arms, but distinguished it because it was two headed. So there it is, the origin of the n@zbol logo, it’s the symbol of imperial Russia, used as the Roman did, but with hammer and scythe instead of SPQR.
    Fun fact, in games like Europa Universalis 4 if you manage to form Germany or Russia as nations, they have the gold flag with respectively one head or two head black eagles.
    All of this just to proof how nonsense euroasianism is, as it shows that, actually, Russian national-conservatives are exactly as all other European national-conservatives: they can’t stop fetishising ancient Rome and claiming to be their rightful heir.😂

    • @veritasetcaritas
      @veritasetcaritas  Před rokem +9

      I'm very familiar with the history of the double headed eagle. Moscow as called the Third Rome by the Eastern Orthodox Church on the fall of Constantinople. But the deliberate placing of the double headed eagle with its wings outspread, holding a circular wreath, is unique to Dugin. That is not a historical symbol, and that particular stylized form of the eagle is again a departure from its historical depictions, which have the wings bent and oriented vertically. That specific form of stylization with the wings outstretched horizontally left and right, is distinctively Nazi.

    • @ilianceroni
      @ilianceroni Před rokem +4

      @@veritasetcaritas I was about to argue that the ancient Romans actually had both arc and horizontal wings (as it was sculpted in the frame over the banner, while in the middle ages they made it part of the banner, which was vertical and therefore had the wings on an arc) but then I remembered it was italian f@scista brought back the horizontal version, and, as you pointed out, the stylisation is really close to n@zi one. So, yeah, I probably was giving them to much credit.

    • @veritasetcaritas
      @veritasetcaritas  Před rokem +7

      @@ilianceroni yeah the Italian fascist eagle is also very distinctive in the same way.

    • @Kaiyanwang82
      @Kaiyanwang82 Před rokem +2

      @@veritasetcaritas Moscow claim of third Rome is preposterous. It's just opportunism due to the marriage with Sophia Palaiologina. But she didn't bring any title. The Ottomans (lmao) have a better claim. I mean the Patriarchate of Constantinople recognized Fatih's claim.

    • @YaBoiBaxter2024
      @YaBoiBaxter2024 Před 6 měsíci

      I disagree as it's clearly just Marxist-Leninism (especially with Stalinism's "Socialism in one country" praxis) with National Socialist racialism and autarky. It's socialism still, but one that uses a soviet style command economy which caters ONLY to the "pure", "Russo-Aryan" 'race', I.e. it's just: "racist communism"/"Marxist-Leninism but for Russians only".

  • @SatSingh-mm4gg
    @SatSingh-mm4gg Před 2 měsíci +1

    @2:40, useless quote?
    Appeal to an alleged authority?
    Weak sauce?

    • @veritasetcaritas
      @veritasetcaritas  Před 2 měsíci +2

      There is no appeal to any authority here. An appeal to authority takes the form "Source X has qualifications Y which give them an authority such that what they say should be accepted as true simpkly because they say it". This source cites Dugin's own work.

  • @jamesmurphy9426
    @jamesmurphy9426 Před rokem +1

    One thing is correct
    We do require a new political theory to bring humanity to it current technology situation

    • @NeoEvanA.R.T
      @NeoEvanA.R.T Před měsícem +1

      Anarcho Communism hey what up. Also imperialism and fascism have been tried before.

  • @user-ki6im7so6p
    @user-ki6im7so6p Před 2 měsíci +1

    Good guy

  • @diegoarmando5489
    @diegoarmando5489 Před rokem +13

    Sounds like pure idiocy.

  • @coolbanana165
    @coolbanana165 Před 6 měsíci

    What is the difference between this and fascism?
    Also, if progress is bad and ancient is good, why is he writing books instead of drawing pictures on cave walls to express ideas?

    • @veritasetcaritas
      @veritasetcaritas  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Excellent questions, and the answer to the first is, "nothing"!

  • @ikengaspirit3063
    @ikengaspirit3063 Před rokem +1

    7:52 Might have liked Eurasianism if he went for European conquest by Russia instead of advocating for Euro neo-colonization of Africa. But this one 8:36 makes me mad when I remember Indonesia's invasion of timor and continued occupation of papua.

  • @gustavojoaquin_arch
    @gustavojoaquin_arch Před 6 měsíci +5

    Based Russia

    • @NeoEvanA.R.T
      @NeoEvanA.R.T Před měsícem +4

      When you a 14 year old edgy kid, that watch too much Putin sigma edit.

    • @gustavojoaquin_arch
      @gustavojoaquin_arch Před měsícem

      @@NeoEvanA.R.T yes, it's better than watch western leftist propaganda

  • @ZeV2
    @ZeV2 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Кто бы что из-за бугра нам ни говорил, всё что скажу я - идеи Дугина не есть фашизм. И наших философов и политиков попрошу оставить на наше русское рассмотрение. Пока наши действительно думают, изобретая что-то новое (возможно, частично опираясь на уже существующие теории) многие "цивилизованные" страны живут призрачными грёзами о демократии, которую при желании давно можно было построить. А все громкие заявления, по типу: "Мы защищаем демократию" - не более, чем пустые слова, при которых становится неимоверно душно. Назревает вопрос: многие так сильно ненавидят СССР в том числе из-за пропаганды, наличия гос.идеологии и культа личности. Так чем лучше вы? У вас точно такой же культ личности, у кого - Вашингтон, у кого - кто. У вас точно такие же грёзы о построении идеального общества (только если у нас был коммунизм, то у вас - демократия). Наконец, такая же пропаганда. В то время, пока одни пытаются продвигать свои идеи, как Дугин, кто-то всерьёз считает, что и так живёт в идеальном обществе и не парится о его будущем, а только сидит себе на диване, да поговаривает: "Ну тупой этот ваш Дугин!" Ведь его идеи частично совпадают с вашими, только страны, которые продвигаете вы и он разные. Стоит задуматься.

  • @GicaKontraglobalismului
    @GicaKontraglobalismului Před rokem +9

    I have never heard of any political philosophy more legitimate, objective, justified and necessary than Alexander's Dughin Fourth Political Theory. One can only hope that the peoples of Russian Federation could bring it to life as they are lead today by one of the most gifted political leaderships the World has ever seen.

    • @Duragizer8775
      @Duragizer8775 Před rokem +15

      I dearly pray this is sarcasm.

    • @GicaKontraglobalismului
      @GicaKontraglobalismului Před rokem +1

      @@Duragizer8775 Don't . It isn't.

    • @MrSporkster
      @MrSporkster Před rokem

      The Russians are nothing but a tribe of medieval Slavs who were bred and trained to serve their feudal lords, and have never evolved beyond that original purpose.

    • @sunsunsunh
      @sunsunsunh Před rokem +1

      you are a joke😂

    • @haobinlu
      @haobinlu Před rokem +1

      ​​@@MrSporkster First of all, Russians are primerely finnish-hungarian not slavic at all, second Russians were historically less servants, than european peasants.

  • @creampuffwar4457
    @creampuffwar4457 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This is probably the worst summary of Dugins views I have ever seen

  • @Lumeone
    @Lumeone Před rokem +4

    This video is not even close to understanding what Dugin theory is about. Most of the statements in here are misunderstanding and misinterpretation. Fourth Political Theory is called after 4th Way by Ouspenski and Gurgief. It stands for finding a position between Liberalism Communism and Socialism - the Forth Theory is a middle path between these 3. Please study and understand topic before taking time to make video about it.

    • @veritasetcaritas
      @veritasetcaritas  Před rokem +12

      Dugin's Fourth Political Theory is not the same as Ouspenski and Gurgief's Fourth Way. Dugin explicitly positions his Fourth Political Theory between Liberalism, Communism, and Fascism. He takes some elements from each of these three ideologies. I quoted him saying this explicitly. If you want to make claims about Dugin's ideology, you need to support them with evidence from his actual writings.

    • @vaibhavsajith4267
      @vaibhavsajith4267 Před rokem

      I agree most people who explains dugin are idiots

  • @jamesmurphy9426
    @jamesmurphy9426 Před rokem +2

    Since Russia saved Europe twice it does matter

    • @DominionSorcerer
      @DominionSorcerer Před rokem +2

      Russia saved Europe twice from what?

    • @colbunkmust
      @colbunkmust Před rokem +2

      @@DominionSorcerer I'm guessing he's claiming that Imperial Russia's defeat of Napoleon in 1812 and the Red Army's success over Nazi Germany are somehow justifying modern Russian imperialism. Of course, Napoleon's 1812 campaign was only one of many campaigns during the Napoleonic Wars, and the Prussians, Portuguese, and, British as well as many other regimes were also responsible for "saving" Europe from a potential European Bonaparte Dynasty. Also, not only were the Allied forces also fighting Nazi Germany in three different campaigns over the course of the war, but the Allies were also supplying huge amounts of raw resources and finished weapons and equipment to the USSR during WWII.

    • @darkphoenix8941
      @darkphoenix8941 Před rokem +2

      ​@colbunkmust the American support to the USSR wasn't what made the USSR win the war. Most of the help came after the battle of Stalingrad. The USSR survived in 1942 and 1941 without enormous help they would have won without this help with far more dead

    • @colbunkmust
      @colbunkmust Před rokem

      @@darkphoenix8941 We don't know that as a certainty. Without US aid the Soviet military could have lost more men then it needed to achieve its objectives. You're also wrong about the dates. The first US aid deal to the Soviet Union started in September of 1941. Lend-Lease officially started a month later. about 16% of the total of US lend lease had been received by the USSR by the end of 1942 and while the majority of aid came in the last three years of the war, those three years were also the years that the Soviet Union was on the offensive, where they were far more likely to need that aid. Why do you think the Soviet forces were able to make so much progress offensively in those three years of campaigning? Because they were receiving aid from the US, a luxury that Germany didn't have. Estimated total value of 11 billion dollars in 1940s money (180 billion in 2020), 53% of ordnance and 57% of aviation fuel used domestically in the USSR from the start of the program was from Lend-Lease. Hell, the US even shipped a whole tire factory to the USSR.
      Furthermore, US aid didn't just come in the form of sending supplies. The US and other Allies were strategically bombing German industry and destroying the German army in N. Africa, the Med and France. US aircraft supported Red Army offensives and significantly reduced their casualties in urban environments due to those strategic bombing campaigns.
      This is also excluding the issue that the USSR certainly didn't "save Europe twice"(according to OP) since it's very clear from the actions of the Red Army following the Ribbontrop-Molotov pact that they were as responsible as the Germans in starting the war by invading Poland in 1939.

  • @estebansins
    @estebansins Před rokem +13

    Thank you for your work. It really must have cost a lot of time and braincells to go through Dugin's bullshit.

    • @veritasetcaritas
      @veritasetcaritas  Před rokem +6

      It was grim, I can tell you. I had to wade through pages of gibberish.

  • @Metalslimeusa
    @Metalslimeusa Před 5 měsíci +1

    Dugin was cooking

    • @MrGoldfish8
      @MrGoldfish8 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Yeah, but he's not very good at it.

  • @Whoo711
    @Whoo711 Před rokem +12

    "Renowned anti-imperialist scholar" -Caleb Maupin😂🤣
    "When I spoke at that well-known fascist Nazbol's conference, it was TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE! Stop calling me a Nazbol, guys!🥲"- Maupin (paraphrasing)