The Life (and Death?) of the Fallout Franchise
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2023
- A video essay about the brief history of the Fallout series, from before its inception with Wasteland, its early years with Interplay, and the current day with Bethesda. Fallout has been a juggernaut in the gaming world for almost thirty years and is a series that is still incredibly popular today. Whether it's a small spinoff or one of its massive titles like Fallout 3, Fallout 4, or Fallout New Vegas, the franchise is one of the most loved and controversial series to ever come out.
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Fallout's not dead, it just goes to bed earlier.
Cryostasis if you will.
Fallout going away for a while is honestly probably a good thing, it will allow Microsoft and Bethesda to figure out what they're actually gonna do with the franchise. Fallout New Vegas is my favorite game of all time, and as much as I would love to see obsidian have a second shot at a fallout game, the development team that made New Vegas is gone, and given the state of The Outer Worlds being incredibly mid, I feel like most people don't have confidence in Obsidian to deliver.
That being said, Fallout New Vegas is my favorite game of all time, and I highly recommend anyone who has not to seriously pick up and play Tale of Two Wastelands (TTW), it combines 3 and NV into one massive open world. With a few mods to improve stability, and maybe graphical additions (If you are so inclined) it is in my mind the definitive Fallout experience.
For those of you looking to just expand upon the New Vegas experience, I would highly recommend you try and play the collection of mods by Someguy (New Vegas bounties/Russel/The Better Angels). Very good if you're looking for an even more expanded NCR playthrough.
Outer worlds is so weird. Like the makings of a good game are all there but felt like they played everything way too safe to say nothing how stupid short it was for a premium game. I do think a Outer Worlds 2 could work with the world they set up if they just expanded on everything and if consequences meant anything. I really do believe there is a great game underneath all that mid.
@@matildatheoboldt2261 Feels like the game was muddled to death by the corporate suits yah.
I did look into the bonus thing and Obsidian has said that their bonus would not have changed the lay-offs either way. It's very sad that they suffered money issues because had they continued with the Fallout franchise we would've had something very exciting. I'm so hype to see what will happen now that Microsoft has purchased both Bethesda and Obsidian. I need a New Vegas Remaster YESTERDAY. Maybe one that doesn't randomly crash or corrupt all my save files LOL
I've bought Fallout 4 and restarted it twice, but each time I started it I ended up spending 5 hours building my house and then quitting so I'm glad that's a universal experience.
Also: TERRIFIC VIDEO. I'm investing for when this blows up. Thank you for taking the time to research, narrate, and edit everything :) I learned a lot that gave me great insight into why the games differ so much and gave me thoughts on what Fallout will look like in the future.
The Obsidian layoffs did give me a tough time with finding info, so I appreciate you sharing that bit of knowledge. I’m glad you enjoyed the video! And thank you for the kind words
I very much enjoyed fallout three, fallout four and fallout new Vegas! They are some of my favorite games of all time and the main thing I loved about fallout four was the fact that you had this whole separate game with the building mechanics in each of the settlement where whenever you were ready to take a break from exploring and grinding out in the wasteland, you could sit back and relax and build until your hearts content!!! I spent so many hours building amazing stuff or at least what felt amazing because it was all unique?!
I managed to complete fallout four on the PS4 Pro first and then a year later on the Xbox one X when I got one and as far as fallout three goes, I just finally got the last five achievements I was missing in that game last month!! The only one I have left to complete is Vegas which I might not ever do because I’m only missing a few and one of them is a hard-core play through and I don’t know if I really feel like doing that..
Yeah, Chris Avellone himself has said that the issues was a mix of Obsidian upper management making dumb decisions and Obsidian themselves biting off more then they could chew. Hell he even states that Bethesda offered them more time, and help. But they refused because they wouldn't get paid until the game shipped.
Hell I crucified Bethesda for making stupid decisions. Hell I was one of the first to attack F76 when everyone else was cautiously optimistic. Bethesda deserves criticism, all game devs do. But the fanboys acting as if Bethesda was the reason why FNV didn't get 85 on metacritic and (in my honest opinion, and can link a video backing my claim) was just as buggy and broken as F76 on launch.
Bethesda deserves criticism, but the whole lie about them screwing Obsidian is just that, a lie. Bethesda, believe it or not, where the good guys in the situation, and tried to help Obsidian as much as they could.
Also excited to see with Microsoft backing as well as Robert Altman being out of the mix what creativities might happen.
@@aaronlaughter6471 yeah it’s for the exact reason of how buggy New Vegas was at launch, that I did not actually complete all the game and DLC until just last year?!?
I had got it when it first came out and my buddy and I started a character in it and started murdering the game quickly!! By the time I got to Caesars legion where Cesar had Benny up on the cross he had another Benny that was on his knees on the ground and both of their text dialogue Scripts were both running simultaneously, and as soon as I killed one of them, the other died and it crashed the game so hard that it corrupted my save file and I had basically wasted 25 hours?!?!
I was so pissed, I was enjoying myself so much and got ruined by a bug at the very beginning.. because of this I did not go back to the game for many years out of fear of aggravation that something similar would happen again??
Anytime I go into a main line fallout game like three, four or new Vegas I’ll start getting multiple Quest lines done at the same time just by exploring every single thing I come across and having quest be completed back to back and sometimes I would already have an item that I need it for another quest and not even need to go retrieve it just because of that play style!!
this way of “Murdering the game“ is what I think caused it to glitch so badly at release??
got recommended. I love the game so much i cant wait to play Fallout 4 VR when i have free time. But i dont think ill ever try 76.
Fallout 4 VR should be fun! I’ve had friend who have played it and love it. Don’t worry about 76, it’s best to show Bethesda we won’t support half-baked games.
The fallout series is still going strong people are still buying the games and expansions and there is a TV show fallout 4 is far from being dead
God I’d love to make a fo4 mod
It's dead creatively speaking, they can release as much content as they want. but it's not going to be Fallout anymore.
Fallout 4 is still popular because of the mods, and like half of them are nsfw mods
Fallout never dies we are gonna have fallout 5 bro war war never changes we gonna go to space and rebuild the wastland
Whoooo!! Fallout Alaska? Someplace snowy at least
The last good Fallout game was made 13 years ago, and it wasn't even made by Bethesda. Fallout 5 is going to suck.
I wouldn't say Fallout 4 is terrible. It's pretty alright.
Bethesda just need to move away from the comic book style and more towards gritty and brutal.
@@davidthornton5327 would that make the games better? Fallout has always been weird and comical, just look at the Fallout 1 and 2 or Fallout New Vegas (which are fan favorites). They need to make the stories less linear and the factions less pathetic.
great video!
Great video dude definitely subbing can’t wait to see what comes next
Appreciate it!
Oh Todd... "It just works!", "Sixteen times the detail!" the list goes on haha
For the Fallout 2 atmosphere they kind of accidentally did it right by having a less gloomy game, the fourth wall jokes got way out of proportion being literally everywhere, but I think the game being a bit less depressing makes it better, we see improvements in society from the first game where society has really only gone 4 (20 year) generations in the first. Then we double that, and we really get to see how things are getting a bit better, still pretty sad in places such as New Reno and the Den with drug issues, but we also see places like San Francisco, Navarro sort of, NCR and Vault City with thriving communities being created.
Hope this blows up!
Thank you!
Great video.
Thank you!
If Fallout 76 focused on being private Co-Op with the N-W Battle Royale, NOT A MMO and was released with all the Content it has today.
It probably be a Great and beloved game.
But it was released with no content 100% buggy and absolutely no respect for Lore of previous games.
Very well put together video. Earned a sub from me.
Appreciate it!
Awesome video! You got my sub lol
Part of the reason why FO:BOS was so…not Fallout…was that it was designed to be played on GEN 2 consoles, not just Windows PCs, like the earlier games; consoles were significantly more limited in what they could run than desktops of the time…
Omfg.......there really is a post apocalyptic movie with a boy and his dog?! Does it talk?!?! I was probably 5yo at the time and I was really sick one night and I remember a movie about a boy and his talking dog, but whenever I would bring it up to anyone they'd tell me I dreamt it! It didn't help that the one time I googled it I couldn't find anything......so for the past 25 years I've been convinced I just had a wildass fever dream! Thank you so much!
You earned my subscription with this one, perhaps the best history of Fallout I have seen. Well done and thank you. I especially enjoyed your recommendation regarding NOT believing anything that comes out of the mouth of Todd Howard.
Man, I miss the vibe and roleplaying of Fallout 1 and 2. Thankfully Wasteland still exists.
Very good video, I started with New Vegas back 2013 and loved the series since then, while fallout 4 didn’t live up people expectations and caused a rift between the community I still think this series has life in it, I also hope maybe in the near future obsidian could work spin off like new Vegas and get the proper time and resources to make there ideal fallout game and same with Bethesda, i starfield could be the start for a new era for Bethesda and hopefully when it’s time to fallout 5 they can there ideal fallout game as well. It’s clear both obsidian and Bethesda love and care about fallout and to see these two developers fully realized vision for fallout could a major boost in the community and make fallout even better than before.
I totally agree. Every series has its ups and downs, some more than others. This could just be a growing period for Bethesda.
Always put points in "Preception" or you may miss errors during editing...
Now that you said that I’m very tempted to delete this video
Also FO:76 has a pretty loyal fan base, now that most of the bugs have been worked out…
Fallout 3 like most was my 1st look into the wasteland and i was hooked straight away . I cant remember if this qas before or after playing eldat scrolls oblivion but both of them had me 100 % invested in them
Fallout is having its own card series I'm magic the gathering sometime at the beginning of 2024. My guess is probably February time it'll be a 4x commander set and I'm hoping they will prioritize super mutants as 1x of the commander boxes. I'm getting all 4x commanders as fallout is amazing.
Thumbs up for even doing this. I'll have to watch again before I can even have an opinion. I've not finished 2. I just get bored and sidetracked. But I've done 1, 3, New Vegas and 4. I may do 76 some day. I may replay 3 because there's a lot I missed. I probably have another New Vegas run in me. But I usually start a Fallout 4 game at least once every 6 months to a year. I think they should do Fallout China next. Take a risk.
fallout 4 is my favorite but it wouldnt be if not for the massive ammount of mods that fix the base game and then add in all the roll playing and side content you could ask for, sim settlements to finish the settlement system and almost any realism or immersion mod you could need.
Have my thumbs up good sir.
After the success of Baldur's Gate 3 I wouldn't be surprised if MS hands over the next Fallout game to inXile for some old school Fallout gameplay. It won't be a numbered entry but that didn't hurt NV. Not that I want that, but it seems like a logical step.
Im gonna say something bold, I love literally all of the Fallout Games. They’re all special and offer great rewards and experiences. You also see a lot of similarities between the games if you truly view them all in the same world. I know I’ll like Fallout 5 at least for the first go-around, but I agree with the criticisms that Bethesda needs to stop rushing games out and reusing old factions. Make newer memories unique to the new games.
I’m with you on that. Well, I’ve never played the originals but I know I love FO3, FNV and FO4, but for different reasons. I’m not crazy about Fallout 76, but it isn’t a single player Fallout game either , so I don’t even consider it comparable to the others. I personally would love to see a Fallout game that combines all the best features of FNV and FO4.
@@WarNvrChanges The mod FO4: New Vegas might be able to do that.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Another mod that will never see a release. No way a small unpaid dev team of modders can convert an entire game.
@@ZiddersRooFurry ok, furry.
I actually hope the next series would take place in New York (Bethesda) or New Mexico (BlackOBs)
New York would be crazy, the scale would be incredible. I personally hope they do something on the West Coast again, maybe SoCal or the Bay Area
Check the "fallout new mexico" mod
I've spent the last week or so playing Fallout76 and haven't noticed many bugs. About the only issue I've had is every now and then parts of the landscape will take a bit to load in and you'll end up with parts of the environment floating in the air. It's not really all that big a deal to me. The writing is great (a lot better than in fo4) and most of all the community is alive and not full of assholes. The majority of players I've happened across have been friendly, helpful folks. PVP isn't really that big a deal and if someone harasses you there's not really much harm they can cause. if they do manage to hurt you (say you shoot them by accident while flagged as being in pacifist mode) they're immediately flagged as hostile. This makes them fair game for everyone else on the server. These folks usually don't last long.
It's a really great game and from what I've read & seen it has a lot of great content ahead.
I grew to really dislike the vault experiments plot point as Bethesda was driving them into the ground with the gary vault and all these goofy ass ideas and now I wish a company would literally make a straight up knock off of fallout with no mutants and no vault experiments.
The story of FO1 stood on it's own and sill does. All the wrawra that got tacked on top just dirstracted from the essence of a Fallout experience, which is to come out of a vault for the first time and find a mcguffin.
My main complaint about 76, aside from being bad, is that I distinctly remember Bethesda promising us that they wouldn't go back in the timeline because that's just an easy out.
"I wonder how 76 ends" he says when he could just go play 3 and see whatsup in the nearby region.
Metro 2033 as been inspired mainly by S.T.A.L.K.E.R. ;)
Great video !
Thank you!
It was mainly the the story that was inspired by Fallout as well as a few other games and books www.ign.com/articles/2009/12/01/metro-2033-interview
FO5 will be released once everyone who was alive and remembers FO76 is dead.
Just want fallout to go back to the dark themes and graphic, and rpg/decision making elements
Guarenteed many of older gamers will be dead by the time F 5 comes out.
Hard to say if it is dead. sometimes im amazed at how popular bethesda games actually are, they have so many casual gaming fans who dont know anything about the general stuff. if the next one goes bad then i think its safe to say its dead.
Fallout is my fave of all time~ GOAT S
here on August 6th =))
Shouldn't this video technically be titled "The Downfall of Fallout" or something?
I felt like the Life and Death was more fitting because of the ups and downs the series has had. If they made one good game and then couldn’t match that level, then I think the downfall would be better
I'll never play another bethesda fallout.
What game drove you away from the series?
@@CartrND im guessing Fallout 76.
@@CartrND microsoft acquisition and fo76. I stuck with it after they fixed it but they just didnt produce any meaningful content. Theres whole complete story lines that have just been forgotten in favour of atom shop and instanced dungeons.
The only hope we have of bethesda devving a good fallout rests on Starfield. If starfield ends up knocking it out of the park then thats great cause we know bethesda will carry over what works there over to the fallout and elder scrolls titles. Starfield falls flat and im probably will not ever bother with them again as developers.
Fallout 76 was such a mess. It was failure after another failure. Not only the bugged part and the itemshop part, but also the thing with the nylon bag and those plastic rum bottles. As if bethesda tried to make it as bad as possible.
Fallout is worth too much money to do nothing with, it's surprising (maybe concerning) that Bethesda doesn't develop more games, license the franchise or invest in longer life-cycles, 4 & 76 could support larger & more regular DLC if Bethesda was interested
Is this a lore video
I loved wasteland 2 but 3 was not a good game, combat slightly better but i prefered 2 jank.
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I seriously doubt fallout will die fallout 4 sold 13.4 million copies on launch day and fallout 3 sold 12 million on launch day there obviously very successful games I feel like people fanboy NV (copies sold on launch 11million) way to much to the point they actually convince themselves if the next game isn't exactly like it fallout will fail but it won't it sells well and has a thriving community way after release alot of people still play fallout 4 ,3, new Vegas, even fallout 76 is fairly popular I play it every now and then the fanbase is detected
Fallout died after fallout 3 new Vegas was good but after that nothing 💥
First Fallout for me was New Vegas. I currently have Fallout 3 uninstalled after Bethesda failure with that " Anniversary" patch they released in 2021. Havent gone back since. I also have Fallout 4 heavily modded, thats the only way to make it an actual Fallout game. I refuse to play 76 or consider it canon. Since it is deemed a prequel, its Bethesda way of trying to ERASE the effects of the original games. and for that, they can rot.
There's a mod that undoes the patch, I can't remember what it's called but searching for "patch" on the FO3 Nexus should bring it up.
damn good vid how u got less subs than me oO
Hold on, so Bethesda didn't pay the bonus and knew that Obsidian would have to let staff go without that cash? Even though the game was brilliant and did get an 84 on the pointless Metacritic?! Hmm...
Fallout 4's story was a failure.
Based, unbiased take. Keep it up.
I just want an FNV 2. Exactly the same gameplay. No stupid cinematic cameras when the characters are talking. No changes to the ways weapons work. Especially scoping. F4 was so annoying with scoping in. Keep old characters and enemies. Add in new characters... new enemies... new weapons. FNV had the best storytelling with tons of options. That's why you can replay it 118171777 times. You go in different directions with every choice. Plus, the atmosphere and music in FNV cant be beat. Also I want the option to toggle old FNV style graphics instead of new. FNV was dark and gritty while the new is way too polished and cartoonish.
I HATED fallout 4! I would love to see a bigger remake version of new vegas.
I think Fallout Shelter is Bethesda's best fallout game.
Yeah lol fo3 i dont like fo4 is only good with mods and fo76 is ok it was good but this year it was bad
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The Fallout series always seemed crudely made to me. Most franchises self destruct. Even the Wolfenstein series became woke and died. Remember the server problems and the infamous canvas bag debacle.
I see no death of this series. Fallout 4 is STILL popular, and 76 is thriving with a great community.
Yawn, another lazy copy paste .. don't like, don't dislike, go straight to 'don't recommend channel'.