Eavesdrop: A great new place to listen to music
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Being a former recording engineer I love the approach to his system. There is a lot any audiophile can learn from his way of thinking.
Nice humblebrag
Cheers.
Interesting!
Cant wait to check this place out next time im in NYC.
Finally! an NYC bar without a single Bose 301 to be seen or heard anywhere, quite refreshing!
That's funny!
... good observation, seemingly, every record store and bar gobbled up every pair of 301s.
As a previous owner of various cafes, bars and a lust for excellent sound, I know how hard it is. It was so hard, that I never could get it to sound good enough. Brilliant work, thanks to both of you for this.
wow lucky new york what a wonderful place to experience.terrific interchange between you to the music must there music sound wonderful.thank you both peace a lover of new york.
I heard a couple of really big Danley systems at a dance music and sound system culture festival in the UK, quite honestly as a lifelong sound system geek, the best sound I have ever witnessed. Like a giant HiFi with incredible imaging and unbelievable control over the bass. Absolutely kinetic bass but not excessively loud. I immediately thought ‘I need to setup a listening bar with these synergy horns’ then found this video!
America needs more of these 'music' joints. Why do we have to go all the way to Japan to find solace in that manner? Live music can be expensive at times, but there's usually no public place to chill to (non-dance) music outside from home for the most part. Btw, is this place still up and around since it opened? I am skeptical because we are in an age where people can't put down their gadgets, so I salute this guy for giving this a shot.
So nice to hear people talk about this passion with so much knowledge and experience! Thanks for this great video 🙏
Those sh50’s sound so damn good, guys. If you haven’t heard a synergy horn you need to. Every single spot in the room sounds pretty much as good as the sweet spot. It’s incredible
It's about time! Bravo!
Thanks very much for that video, looks really good 👍
I wish this was in my city. What a concept. Love it.
"Our ears are the most hi fidelity experience we will ever encounter".....preach brother.
I’m got to look into listening bars in LA..
I would really enjoy this world of a listening bar (experience).
Thanks for continuing your outreach into the audio worlds and minds of others. Gorgeous space and love the style and vision but more importantly, his shared refreshing perspectives, passion and analytical approach to creating a unique experience was a treat to watch. So look forward to making a res for an evening of something quite different.
I clicked as soon I saw the DSL Synergy horns.. It’s nice that it still has tubes in the signal path through a tube rotary mixer..
Gandolf-" have you been eavesdropping"- Frodo- " i have not been dropping any eaves sir"!
Was there Wednesday - fantastic space. Excited to see it again when the selectors are playing.
loving those focals as monitors, so clean
Steve - please review some Danley synergy horns
I ain't been dropping no eaves, mr frodo
Cool concept - hope it takes
I gotta go again when I’m not stuck on the end of the bar lol
Swung by last weekend and it was packed. Looked very cool though, and will try to come back soon. Reservation recommended!
Steve, keep reaching out to the community of New York at large, the talent in the audio industry is bar none the best in the world Your ability to expose talent is the best. Cheers
great one Steve ! I've been looking for this kind of place for quite a while...
I love it. I might try to find one of these in Japan when I'm there.
Wow, what a remarkable man and I love this concept of a listening bar.
Great video, Steve. That DSL Synergy horn/Seaton submersive setup is right up my alley, as they say. Inspiring!
This was awesome.
Great 'field trip', Steve. Thanks for posting. It would be interesting to learn how a listening room works with ASCAP, BMI, and all the other assorted PROs
This is so damn cool, id visit every day if i could :P I made some synergy horns (design not by me, just build and tune) Some day i wish to hear SH60/50 in person!
Steve, you are the BEST.
Sound is just like food. There is no best food. Even if there is a perfect food, I want something different tomorrow!
I used to DJ at a local Cafe, I'd bring my home setup (bar my floorstanders) I'd take a pair of Bookshelf speakers and I'd choose albums that I could play entire sides of, I'd only take one Turntable
*I love the conversations.* My 1st grade room had no teachers, no students, books, pins, paper or pencils. SO HEARING others talking about things that I was never privy to where I lived because I was the MONSTER (code for: Jew) *can be like having parents warning you or making you aware of opportunities.* My father taught me to survive on earth so learning about non-violent ways of living is pretty cool :)
... I know for a fact that picking up MUSIC and POETRY (on my own as a kid) kept me from becoming a Mass Murder which I was considering by the time I was 12.
btw, I made a vow to never be violent again at 16, 52 years ago.
I do smoke a HELL of a LOT OF POT :)
I performed (mostly zero crowds) over 3,500 paid gigs - nearly 1,000 1hr shows I wrote for Dementia and Altheimer health care facilities.
..... I don't do any drugs when I'm the road... which is why COVID has made me a POT Head again ;) lol
Great concept and if it can turn a dollar it will last. Many of us are committed to a labour of love but if all us Audiophiles lived in one town bussiness would be BOOMING. Oh wait that’s my speakers
My friend turned that location into a bar about 10 years ago. Cool to see how it’s changed over the years.
Love it!!! So great to see this in NYC. At last!!! The speakers… Very interesting, looking them up now. Thx guys!
Brought to mind Munich of 7 or 8 years ago, and these speakers which took my ears by storm. czcams.com/video/MvTtFmSE7ws/video.html
@@pranadistribution6033 Tom Danley wanted to sue them for not having permission, but being over Germany, he cannot..
Hi Miguel.. DSL is coming out with a domestic high end speaker called Hyperion.. But it uses active DSP… It won’t suit everyone.. Another speaker you might wanna check out is the Audiokinesis Flagship Bohemian 215..
@@rickg8015 That's news to me. The only close patent to that kind of design to my knowledge is owned by Ralph Heinz. The patent had a world application so he could sue anyone anywhere if he had the inclination. However, he sited 25 inventions leading back to 1925...so a real gumbo of tech. The other side of that is that there are 88 'others' who have cited Heinz's invention. 3 times it's been Danley. All to say, it's not his to defend so far as I can tell.
@@pranadistribution6033 There are threads in which Tom claimed they also used key elements of his design, not just the very old Renkus Heinz ones.. It gets very murky with these types of technical things for me.. I tried posting his posts from AA and Diyaudio but it gets auto deleted here.. Anyway, I have no stake in this. I’m just an enthusiast who read Tom’s posts.
nice SH60s!
A terrific 27mins! ... and 27mins could've been spent on the Danleys alone!
SH60s w/pair of SubMersives, nice rig. I've had a pair of SubMs for 10yrs... heavy use, every day.
What was mentioned about putting one's head up into the horn mouth... the Synergy is so point source coherent, with near ideal phase/time domain behavior... as you approach the cabinet during playback, the coherent image of the single speaker remains all the up to the point of one's head up at the face of the horn.
The Synergy places multiple drivers covering differing bandwidths into a single horn.
Keeping each element's contribution into the horn with a 1/4 wavelength of one another, the energy sums so well it can essentially pass square waves.
There's trick implementation of the driver/exit port loading relationship creating bandpass characteristics that limit out of band distortion products.
Danley systems are showing up everywhere. I've experienced a smaller Synergy in an all day blind shootout of high performance home theater loudspeakers... they were superb in the residential scenario.
Love that club. Style. Premise. Gear. Acoustics.
Similar listening rooms are here in the Midwest too.... actually it's high end dining, only seats 16 at a time, vinyl rig thru tubes, into Klipsch, with full album sides played... dig the idea.
Steve, how'd it sound?
Thanks for the interview, i like how their is mutual respect for the both the DJ method and the music presention. I use the MS and 1210s at home ! I'm curious about the size and geometry of the room relative to the speaker placement
No contact info what time do they open what time do they close what day are they closed ? Website does not include any of these tidbits
The website does include that information in the left side of the page there are links
Very cool looking place. Thanks for sharing! Have a great weekend everyone.
As far as "thinking too much" about room treatment to the point of being a negative to the room, that result would indicate "too much wrong thinking".
There are ways to measure a room and scientifically calculate the room treatment which would give the desired result for that client while compromising a little for 'feel'.
Good-sounding speakers in a good acoustic environment sound very powerful without really being "loud".
Sharp cat. That was great, I hope he kills it. Speaking of sharp, your comment, Steve, at 24:35 about 'no convergence' is an example of why I keep coming back. PS: I'm seeing different quilts in your videos--is Mrs Audiophiliac a quilter? They're lovely.
Why is a wide dispersion overrated? Other than avoiding noise complaints or whatever I guess, I can't think of why it would be a bad thing
The problem with wide dispersion speakers is they create more reflections off the floor, walls and ceiling than narrow dispersion designs. Reflections mess with imaging clarity. Hope that helps you understand.
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Makes sense, thank you!
Just went here last week abc it blew my mind. Exquisite place. Cheers. 🤍
It's a cool place. It would be enough to acknowledge the aesthetics of "room treatment" would be a cool way to decorate. "Cartoonishly overspeced", hit the nail on the head.
Man that room is quiet for NYC. Around the 11:53 mark I could hear a phone vibrating in my headphones and I thought someone was calling me 😂
Having looked around and listed at several Japanese Jazz cafes and music bars here on YT it would have been good to have heard a couple of tunes here. There is plenty of non copyright stuff that can be played.
This sounds interesting. I’ve been to Bar Shiru in Oakland and Dante’s in Miami. Honestly Dante’s seems to gone more the club route. Maybe that is just Miami. I like that the proprietor is purposefully trying to prevent that
No reservations available period. Not sure if I can just show up...
As someone who’s played in everything from shitty bars to actual listening rooms, this answers to a society that needs more adjustment/balance to keeping its ears on dedicated environments, and observe important moments 🙏🏼👍🏼👌🏼❤️
I wonder how long those horizontal electronics will last when people start spilling their drinks on them.
I could see how this could work with a bar, main listening room, then about 3 ancillary listening-only rooms, featuring different styles of music, types of speakers, sources (digital/analog).
Roomacoustic ist the Most Important Thing in Hifi!
Eavesdropping on "Eavesdrop" was best the 27 minutes I've spent this week (besides listening to music). Thanks Steve, this was awesome... loved his take on what it means to be an Audiophile.
The cover shot made dude look like Ed Grimley! lol Perhaps the greatest solo in music history- The Ed Grimley Triangle Solo- youtube
How about Audiophiliac week? Breakdown each night with a different genre of music (well recorded of course). At the end do a podcast of your experience with at least one guest.
I have thought a good deal about listening rooms and have come to the conclusion that to own and manage one would be like herding cats. However, I hope that this is a success and that the format can spread far and wide. If I ever get to go to one I hope that my catholic taste in music would be catered to, because if the music is something I actively dislike during the whole of that visit and similar is slated for the coming week, I am unlikely to ever give the joint a second thought (as I am very lazy).
Wow a great idea! I do hope it catches on, develops franchises and spreads throughout the country. Coffee and horns the perfect combination! 😉
Not that new, even outside of Japan. One I go to, Bar Shiru in California has been open for …three years at least?
Analog + Valve + Horns.
But yes I agree, wouldn’t mind seeing more pop up everywhere.
@@pushslice That’s great to know however, none close by here 😟
Great chat Steve always enjoy these interviews.🙂🎧👍
So Steve, how did it sound?
Interesting idea and the best of luck to him. It'll be interesting to see how it works out. I think it'll be challenging to stop it degenerating into a club type vibe, especially once folks get a few drinks into them.
Yes, I've often thought about this. Love the idea of opening one in my town - then you start to imagine who would be walking through the door at 11pm with a belly full of beers!!
@@trevekneebone369 Yup. The best laid plans.....
First thing I noticed I do not see any comfortable seats.
i love this idea. forget about even playing music, i just love auditorily comfortable places. i recently went to a restaurant and asked for a quiet table and they put us in a corner...the standing waves drove me mad
Hi Steve
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Thanks Steve and Dan. Very interesting, and cool place. Good luck Eavesdrop!
What did it sound like Steve?
Are you going to take Mrs Audiophiliac there to check it out in the future?
Oooo I saw a copy of Demon Days on the rack, that’s my favorite Gorillaz album
I like the idea. Pity you are in the USA, would love to have an venue like that were I live in Australia
Steve, maybe you and The Audiophile Society DJ a room for a week? Bring cartridges and vinyl, CDs and stories. That’d be very cool :-) Maybe, just special guest one night and let the Patreon’s know.
.... I'll be back, I got a sudden urge to find room treatment blasting 'Whole Lotta Love.'
"listening lounge"
nice episode
This space could also have "movie nights" for special occasions, etc.
This guy just started a new look?
An interesting concept
Great video Steve, Eavesdrop is certainly an interesting new concept. Great to see people moving forward with brave new ideas.
As audiophiles we often discuss the demise of bricks and mortar retailers, or speak of the joy we get from the people who still work hard to deliver audio retail experiences in our communities. I want to share a tragic story of a small family Hi-Fi business here in Australia that just 4 days ago was decimated by extreme flooding. The company is Living Entertainment North Coast, in a small place called Lismore, owned and operated by a young couple Nat and Renee. Last year they put everything they had into a new showroom to deliver a fantastic retail experience. This new showroom was totally wiped out last week by flood, together with $500k of stock. There is no flood insurance in many parts of Australia and Lismore is one of these areas, so Nat and Renee have lost everything.
See Link to their CZcams site and the terrible footage of what has happened to their store, livelihood and lives.
czcams.com/video/idcw0nER64A/video.html
A Go Fund Me site has been set up to try and give them some way of recovering and moving forward (Link in flood video drop-down noon CZcams).
I believe that the audiophile community is made up of good people, who share a passion and come together over the thing we love. If just a few people in the community could give up the money for a cup of coffee today and pass it to Nat and Renee via the GFM site it could make a huge difference. I know there are a lot of bad things happening in the world right now, and this is only one, but as an audiophile it's one close to my heart. Btw, I have no affiliation with the store other than being a customer. Please take a moment and help if you can.