SIMAGIC Alpha Mini Wheelbase 10nm - Review after 1 Year
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Is this wheelbase the king of the midrange market? Or is it the doorman of the high end market, with mid-range prices, the Simagic Alpha Mini wheelbase review. A 10nm wheel who feels like it secretly has more to give. An amazing wheelbase for simracing! Let me know what you think!
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I'm a Simagic fanboy. I jumped from a Logitech G923 to a Simagic Alpha 15nm along with the P2000 pedals with the haptic motors. Best upgrade ever
I'm glad I listened. The 10NM is a beast, I was about to go for the middle one, but I'm glad I didn't.
Simagic is awesome. The FFB is so clear and the best in the industry I have tried all the bases over the years from simucube to Leo bodner to Fanatec
I am not sure what I am in love with more......the new camera and all that fancy camera work or the SIMAGIC beauty
Big thanks for recommendations how to avoid overheating! I think no one of long time users on CZcams has ever mentioned that smoothness can down temp of the base
Yeah I prefer smoothing on Zero, but so as not to destroy my wheel, I use 1, feel gooey at first but now I love it alot, and it makes me faster too
I also run a $25 vornado fan right behind my mini. Huge difference in temperature.
Thanks a lot. I ordered the Alpha, the fx-formula-wheel und the p1000 pedals yesterday. Bye-bye thrustmaster t300 and T-LCM-Pedals. I will comment in a few weeks again and let you know what happened :-)
Your world is about to change
Now i got it all, Alpha, fx-Formula-wheel and the p1000 rs hydralic pedals. It is FANTASTIC!!! Starting with unboxing, mounting, settings it is All GREAT!! I´m speechless. After just few minutes of driving i feel like in heaven. One of the best things i ever bought. It is really a new world.
@@fosolif01 Do you like it ?
I just ordered a rig and then i go simagic
@@fosolif01 Hi! Congrats. What's rhe cons with T-LCM in your experience?
Love it! Also tbh the software has gotten so good and its do simplistic i cant imagine wanting more. I hated fansteks software and aseteks is to bloated. It was a big selling point for me with simagic. I like simple and effective stuff. Like the game reccomendations for settings, the profiles and more.
All of these wheelbases are amazing.
I do eant peoppe to know each motor they go up to the weight comes in more. Like my umtimate the shaft is smooth and very fluid but it def has more weight even when off while turning. But out of every 20nm wheelbase ive used this one is the most fluid in motion meaning its still got that floaty simagic feel that no other wheelbase has that ive tried. As you said it makes it feel like its only forces its not like a spring or filter even the snap is from the forces not a true spring effect like fanatec.
I love the feel nothing for my preference matches the feeling of ubloading and loading of corners and the edge of grip these bases relay. Which imo is the most important effect of a wheelbase. I love how you can find it instead of just going by overly heavy center forces.
Which Alpha are you using?
I can not thank you enough! I've had my Alpha 3-4 months now and could never for the life of me get it dialed in for iRacing, your settings work great for me and I've spent the last 4 hours going thru some my cars and getting the ffb set and smiling ear to ear, some of these cars I have never felt comfortable in, that's changing. These settings along with a reddit post explaining Torque/Strength have been siMagic 😉
Oh I'm glad ot helped so much, happy hunting!!!
Good review, I've had the Mini & Gt Neo for about 3 months. Its amazing. I cant imagine what the 15 & Ultimate feels like but the Mini is more than enough. Plan on getting the P1000 & GTS wheel for Rallying. Only thing is its a very expensive echo system especially coming from Thrustmester products. I'll have to save lol
"Buy once, cry once" 😢😭😂
I notice you have the Version 1 (v1) mini wheelbase with the 252w motor but I understand current version 3 uses a 237w motor to overcome earlier identified overheating issues. Those early v1 bases were putting out up to 13nm of power so I guess they are down to 10nm now. I kind of wish newer reviews like this reflected current model but I get it .. this is a long term review. Good job.
To be honest my friend, you've thought me something new, and very clearly too! I know V3 is out soon I think with slight changes , hmm interesting.
Hey, I've been looking at getting this as my first DD base.
I currently use a Thrustmaster T248, a slightly better version of the infamous g920.
How big of a difference is this? Will I be shocked with it? And most importantly, will I have the urge to upgrade after a bit?
Great vid btw
Thanks for the review. Just purchased this base with the GT Neo wheel. Selling my CSL DD and Formula V2.5 wheel. I would've liked to see your FF settings in iRacing for reference. Max Force, Wheel Force, Intensity, Smooth, Damping, & Min Force.
All of those are Zero and intensity is just hoe strong the auto goes, put it at 50% and start from there, Do not use ingame smoothing damping or min force, in my opinion as these add BS that masks the little details. A bit of damping in SimPro if needed
Max force will change from car to car, make sure you click on it in the black box and work off Nm as.opposed to "force"
Like super formula is 42nm gt3 is 28nm Mazda is 20mm
Hit the auto button the don't be afraid to adjust a lil up or down to suit you, then remember the number or write it down.
@@JACKZERYT Thanks. I appreciate all the great info!! I'm not only new to Simagic, but iRacing as well.
Great review of a super product. I've started the transition from Fanatec, went for the Alpha & GT Neo from CS DD 8Nm + McLaren GT3 v2.
Both cost more of course but the quality shines through; Simagic are doing great things right now.
To comfirm what you touched upon all their wheelbases have more maximum torque than advertised which means for most the Mini would be plenty enough.
Are you feeling like you're missing anything from not going to the Alpha? I have the CS DD 8Nm right now and want to upgrade.
@@RyKnocks - I did go for the Alpha. Glad I did but based on limited experience of it so far the Mini would likely have been more than enough.
@@RyKnocks I have the CSL DD and upgraded to Alpha, didn't want the mini to feel like a side grade even if it's not. Never need another wheelbase again with the Alpha though
@@EndureRacing are you finding yourself running the Alpha at effectively Mini's level of max force output?
@@Wilayaat are you finding yourself running the Alpha at effectively Mini's level of max force output?
excellent review thx
Nice review mate! Where did your get that rpm-led bar from? :)
Etsy buddy :)
Good review man 👍
Thanks, means alot! I tried my best :D
Thanks a lot for this review. helps a lot. Could you share the iracing and simagic setup?Want to try your configurations. thanks
I'll post it in my discord later :)
@@JACKZERYT thanks, very appreciate
Love my Mini. Currently have it with the GT Neo, P1000 with haptics. Sim Magic has helped bring competition to the market space with quality at a solid value.
Nice. I'm planning on the GT Neo and P1000's with haptics too but unsure whether to go with Mini or Alpha. Does it feel like you could have benefited from the Alpha instead even though the Mini is great?
@@DrR1pper Try to find the Mini used, the older versions have higher torque peaks.
@@thatswiki3728 thanks for the recommendation but I’ve decided to go with Asetek instead now. Still haven’t bought one yet though.
What kind of Seat/Rig do you use? Looks like a Playseat Trophy to me. I do use this one. If I’m right, are you happy in combination with the alpha mini?
It looks the same maybe, I have a setup video where I show it a little better.
It's an oubtto rig, with a QSP Racewear bucket seat
Where’s the likes at?!?!
I really do love my mini....but im on the strong side...so im not saying its not enough powerfull but if it wasnt from availability and have to start again...i'll would get the alpha just to have some headroom. Alpha ultimate is overkill for vast majority of simracer.
We're in the same boat lol, if we had a time machine the extra 150 for the alpha just makes sense hahah,
But honestly the mini is alot, and deffo if setup right, is enough to be really really fast
Which steering wheel are you using your mini with?
@@DrR1pper GTS
If you did this again, would you get the 10nm or the 15?
The 15nm you've no idea how much regret I have because I cheaped out on like 130euro.....
Real talk, I came from a CSL elite which was 6.8nm to 10nm DD, it was a huge difference, but now I'm stronger and although 10nm is enough, it's the details a strong wheel can provide to me without Clipping.
So yeah buy once cry once sorta thing. I've recently done this and not taken half measures when purchasing and I've been pretty happy.
I know there different in price but a thought experiment for you..
Heads you get a 10nm, tails you get a 15nm, flip a coin (actually do it trust me.) And are you happy with the result. Yes good. If not, why. That should answer it for you.
Good question BTW.
@@JACKZERYT Thank you for the thorough response. And I like the 'ol flip a coin and you'll know exactly which option you were hoping for. The question was really based around wanting to get back into the sim racing hobby but not wanting to go super deep down the rabbit hole. I've narrowed it down to getting a simagic setup with base/wheel/pedals I just wasnt sure which base to get and I think the 15 is going to be the perfect middle ground for me performance and cost wise.
@@JACKZERYT Hello, i hear that a lot
The mini is strong enough but some say that they would like a little bit torque.
The alpha is definetelly enough.
I will buy simagic after my rig is ready in 2 weeks.
The U is only available and the alpha will be available in 1,5 month
I can buy the U,i think its wasted power you will never need.
Would you wait to get the alpha and keep 250 or would would jump and get the U?
I dont know but it might be nice to have the "Ultimate" and have "infinite" torque
@tkdmp5698 the U, I'd like to use 12-14nm and have more headroom than 1nm , this is absoloutley the expression, buy once cry once. My next purchase I don't want to ever have to worry about Clipping. So max headroom makes sense, and learning to use more (Not excessive) amounts of torque is a cool way to get an arm workout in while having fun