Uncancelled History with Douglas Murray | EP. 06 George Washington
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- Allen Guelzo joins Douglas Murray on this episode to discuss George Washington. From his early childhood to his years as president, the two analyze the founding father’s legacy. Should the first president stay cancelled?
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I hope Douglas makes this much longer than 10 parts. What a gift this has been and could and would continue to be. Thank you Douglas
Agreed. DVD boxsets would also be nice.
Agreed. Would be nice if he responded to my phone calls
In 1776 and 1787 slavery was practiced in every country in the world, and no where more prominent than Africa, the Middle East, Brazil, and the Caribbean. There is clear evidence the Founding Fathers were intent on ending slavery, with the only question of when and how, and frankly they didn’t have the answers. They looked on the Haitian Revolution (1790-1805) in horror as they saw hundreds of thousands of lives snuffed out on a tiny island to free the slaves there; what would happen in the NOT so United States?! The fact the US was the third Western country to end slavery in just 70 years since its creation is amazing, and the cost was high as over a half million men died to make it so.
And of course the natives and the slaves they had are never mentioned. Trash professor teaching lies and half truths
When you include the civilian deaths attributed to the civil war the number is closer to 1 million.
The people who *need* to read this info, would *never* be caught *dead* watching/listening to such an intelligent conversation as this, so I'm sorry to say, your comment here is moot.
Well put!
Yes, well put, and now than that... More than ever country in the world participating in slavery AT THAT TIME, was that slavery had been practiced by humanity FOR ALL HISTORY. I think that is a big, big part of the whole discussion. I think it's such a massive nugget, it's easy to see right past it: slavery is as old as humanity. So, it's a BIG. FREAKING. DEAL. that they made provision for surgery to be eradicated. And, a IT'S HUGE THAT AMERICA DID INDEED ERADICATE IT!! (Watch Mr. Douglas Murray interview Andrew Ferguson, in Abraham Lincoln. Great episode)
King George III said upon hearing of Washington handing in his sword to the Continental Congress from American artist Benjamin West said, "If he does that, he will be the greatest man in the world."
The United States was truly blessed to have such a noble man leading us at that fragile time. America's Cincinnatus.
"You don't see God's hand in all of this?" (Name that movie!)
So unfortunate today's "leaders " are a group of self centered lying megalomaniacs that are only interested in lining their pockets. Barry and Big Mike, Chuck, Nancy, Kammy, Tater Head Joe, Billy and Hilly and let's not forget those who came before them FDR, JFK, LBJ,
George Washington is a household name, yet criminally underrated as a man and leader. Absolute superhero.
The Indispensable Man. No GW, no US.
Crazy how he basically could’ve been King or anything he wanted after the 1776 victory… but remained humble and established a Democracy instead
Misleading history is “laying violent hands on what is so important to us as a people.” (Very true!)
Wow, not only is Kelsey Grammer a venerable actor, but a careful and articulate historian as well. A true polymath!
I thought so too!
lol totally
My thought exactly. But not pompous, just confident.
As a child I think I was unique in that I was amazed at what the founding fathers did. (Most adults don't really appreciate it.) The rights of the citizen above the power of the state. I understood how earth shattering that was in relation to all of human history. But the founding fathers themselves were just entities that accomplished that. Things. Mildly interesting folklore. "I cannot tell a lie." Then, as an adult I started to experience the new historical perspectives. The founding fathers as they really were. Warts and all. THAT'S when I really experienced a sense of awe for the men themselves. They became real people. Flawed people. And what they achieved became that much more improbable. Miraculous. By knowing them as human beings it elevated my esteem for them immeasurably.
This comment is extremely astute! This is a great truth about history. The truth of it is more fascinating than any made up story could ever be.
It was the same with how I was able to process my relationship with my dysfunctional mother who died when I was a teenager. It took many years, but once I saw her as a person, and what she went through, I had a lot more appreciation for her and what she did for us kids.
@@swiftwindturning That moment as an adult when you realize, "Oh, yeah. They were idiots just like me!" Just trying to make their way through the world, trying to do the right thing... and failing... just like me.
Thank you for this channel, and bringing these honest interviews into history and it's people. As always great work Douglas!
What a great enlargement of my picture of history of the colonies and George himself. Thank you., Douglas.
Wow, what a tremendous storyteller. Allen Guelzo makes history feel alive.
Yes he speaks so clearly and with passion , I noticed he pronounced " about " as a Canadian would as " aboot " so I checked where he was born , puzzling it was Japan , however his parents were dinky di Americans .
@@margaretingleby679 I noticed the same thing. Might be one of the Pennsylvania accents; maybe North/Northeastern Pennsylvania?
I LOVE Washington. I once read a giant biography of him and learned about the kind of man he was. I am grateful to him.
Washington viewed himself as a Cincinnatus figure, something our country desperately needs right now.
Douglas Murray performs a great service to the enterprise of promoting American history, ideals, and awareness of the American experiment in democracy. Applause for this treasure of conversations with seminal thinkers, statesmen, historians and observers of the contemporary problems in historiography.
This line says it all --- "Even in the deep winter of Valley Forge, there are 750 black soldiers who are part of Washington's
continental army. If the American Revolution had been created for the purpose of protecting slavery, what were THEY doing?"
getting exercise
Chillin' with the white boys... 😂😂😂
And they were ALL VOLUNTERRS!!! 👍👍👍👍
Its so crazy people spout such nonsense. The biggest supporters of the revolution, the people who started it, were new englanders. Most of them were 100% opposed to slavery, with a very small minority slaves. So its insane people try to argue nonsense that it happened to protect slavery. Hell, most founders were like those in the north east, and were 100% against slavery, they just knew if they forced the issue itd cause an instant civil war and collapse of the new country, they hoped society would change and abandon it down the road, which it did just a lifetime later.
Unbelievable how every one of these guests so far has been so well-spoken and knowledgeable. After so long listening to terrible politicians and journalists, these guests have reminded me that there is still a deep well of intelligence left in humanity. My thanks to Mr. Douglas Murray.
Washington truly led from the front. He used to ride so far ahead of the battle charge that his officers were amazed he was never injured in battle.
Thoroughly enjoying! Prof. Guelzo's excellent summary of George Washington is inspiring!
I'm from the original Washington in the North East of England where the family hailed from, in the old hall there independence day is celebrated every year, when your old enemy honours you... that's respect
I love the uncancelled history concept… and the product perfectly realizes the idea. We’ll done!
Utterly compelling. Professor Guelezo is terrific and Mr Murray is excellent, feeding him, to tease the interview along.
I love Douglas Murray. I just "discovered" him and ashamed I didn't know him before. He joins my go-to cadre of Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Victor Davis Hansen, and Thomas Sowell (among others).
Love love love this guy. He's so fearless and incredibly well spoken. Can't wait to read his books.
So a group of self righteous douche bags? Nice 👍🏿
He's great at spoon-feeding you what you want to hear to make his predetermined points. Just like the other people you mentioned
One interesting subtext to this conversation is the profound level of mutual respect shown by these two men, representing countries who were once bitter enemies in the throes of war. The level of friendship currently manifest between the UK and the US ( as well as Canada, AU, NZ, etc.) is now a model of how great a relationship can be- the admiration for the sister nation often exceeds even the love for one's own country.
How remarkable is that? One nations passes the torch of global hegemony to another, not in an apocalyptic war, but with collaboration and trust, knowing that it really makes no difference which nation is the 'leader' and which is the 'co-pilot', when both are on the same side. What could be done to make the entire world feel that level of trust? If we could answer that question, we could save the world from WW3.
This is such a fantastic series. God bless Douglas Murray.
Douglas, an outstanding discussion with Allen Guezlo. Allen is the sort of person you wished you had as a history teacher, he brought George Washington and the times he lived in to life.
Douglas, as a 'fan' of yours across all media for the better part of a decade and, given your status, IMHO, as one of the Top 50 public intellectuals alive today on planet Earth, may I humbly suggest this UNCANCELLED HISTORY series is the finest body of work you've produced to date in your career thus far !
Focusing on these Anglo-American historical greats whom the woke Left ardently wishes were NEVER born [& thus must be cancelled], your own deep love of history and keen insights as a British scholar of the Western Enlightenment and Canon make this a "must watch" series for anyone at all interested in history and the unique role of the Anglosphere in world events of today AND the past.
BRAVO, sir and I join other viewers here in eagerly awaiting subsequent installments of this well-done and impactful series !......
Another great Scotsman shows us how its done! ;)
Just teasing ChessErwin. Douglas is such a joy.
There are some who think Americans are ill educated, especially on history and geography.
But there is no doubt,America has some world class Academics! These Academics need protection in all Western countries. Protection from pseudo intellectuals with bad intentions,especially.
Great interview.
PS, Many young people,in the whole of the West are let down by poor teachers and teaching methods.
We have become spoiled by the idea that freedom,and democracy are free and don't need protecting!
Interesting conversation. I enjoyed it! One point of beginning the historian said that it was not legal for the colonist to have legislatures. I would read the charters, but the king of England gave those colonies. They, in fact, did have the right to establish their own legislatures, and he had the authority to appoint governors and to be the executive. It was not illegal, but legal. And this is important point the reason why the colonists revolted was because the legislature in the 1760s in England, parliament, tried to establish their authority over the colonies. But the charters that were made with the king 150 years earlier were still in effect, that was the cause of the revolution. No taxation without representation was not a revolt against taxation. It was a revolt against unlawful jurisdiction. The parliament try to extend their legislative jurisdiction over to Colony’s but they did not have the right to do so because that violated the charters.
Really hope Douglas continues this series perhaps Reagan, Nixon, and Thatcher each need an episode
What an engaging and warm scholar. Guelzo is known as a Lincoln scholar. Maybe he undertook this appearance to prepare to write a book on Washington. I'm fortunate to encounter Allen Guelzo, a wonderful storyteller and scholar combined.
Allen Guelzo is a delight to listen to.
What a rich voice. He should narrate Ken Burns documentaries
Fantastic Douglas 👏
Who is this man and why was he hidden from me all my life? I want more! Douglas: release a bonus material! Pre-, post-interview, bloopers, parts that were cut... Bring this man back, sit him in front of a giant pile of food and drink and let him talk for at least 4 hours! Ah, this was the best episode yet!
The Great Courses has several history courses taught by Dr Guelzo. You can get them on audible.
@@cavalier40 Thank you for the recommendation. I will check them out! Dr. Guelzo certainly has a gift of story telling.
@@KrolPotato he has a voice that can calm my soul. I am so hooked by every lecture
This is a great series. Thank you.
Oooh this is my Christmas present. Thank you, Mr. Murray.
Same here Ruth Anne!
What a wonderful, educated and bright person! Simple, brief but so deep analysis. Enjoyable , enlightening watch.
What a privilege it is to have serendipitously found Douglas Murray's work on the internet. It's not an exaggeration to say that Mr. Murray is a giant of our time in the transmission of ideas.
Another factor distinguishing Washington from many of the other Founders: one of the few who had NOT "read" and practiced law.
Why the scare quotes? What do you suggesting?
@@willmercury Hello Friend: I was referring to the pedagogical practice that obtained before the late 19th-century institutionalization of law schools attached to universities, by which apprentices in established law practices would "read law" (as this defunct system was then known) under supervision of their employers in preparation for examination and admittance to local and state bar associations. What I was highlighting is that Washington (by training no more than a land surveyor and army officer) was one of the few non-lawyer Founding Fathers.
Douglass takes so long with that wine menu that these scholars sit down with him to talk about history and it makes for a great show
Fantastic interview. Loving this channel. Keep up the good work
This program is fantastic...keep going...spread the true Gospel of Historiography!!!
More to come!
Excellent interview because Allen Guelzo "gets" Washington beyond admiration or hero worship. He wasn't the intellectual that Adams, Jefferson or Franklin were. And, yes, Washington's role model appears to have been Cincinatus. His core qualities cannot be captured in written words or speeches. It's his intangible command presence...a moral authority at the key moments. What's so irksome about him is that you likely had to have *been there* to grasp his qualities and importance. This makes appreciating Washington fully an impossibility for us, alas.
I am 150 pages from the end of book four of Flexner's biography of Washington, and what an incredible and interesting human he was, and what fascinating tribulations the early American republic had to navigate. Washington served two terms not because he really wished to but because even his political opponents knew the thing just born would not survive without him.
Mr. Murray is so obviously and justifiably impressed both by the depth of Mr. Guelzo's knowledge, and by the overwhelmingly lucid speaking style of this brilliant guest. I have never seen Douglas Murray appear so obviously 'blown away' by the contribution of a guest. Douglas looks as astounded as are we, the audience- inspired by the presence of this great speaker. Dr.Allen Guelzo strikes me as the type of expert that could edify vast audiences by gifting us with more of his speaking presentations online. My thanks to Murray for eliciting Guelzo's genius in delivering this jaw-droppingly entertaining educational material- this is an astounding collaboration that 'breathes life into' the Washington era of history.
Check out his lectures on President Abraham Lincoln.
Washington had to have extreme charisma in order to be able to hold together an army of volunteer militia that also owed allegiance to their families and farms at home. There is no doubt that our country owes him a great measure of gratitude.
Which country?
That America is Long Gone which Considered Washington A "Great Leader" of the Nation, Today DC's Teen Titans make fun of Washington, Little kids are told that Washington was a "Old Rude Lady" and The Most superior Human Race, The Great Black Community (I have to write that way else I might be a White Supremacist in some fool's View) Today wants His Statues Down, Yesterday My Neighbor, A So Called American (He himself says he is Chinese with US Citizenship) Raised a Chinese Flag in The Lawn .
Wow . What a Great Place we live in, it's not a Nation, it's just a place.
Mr. Guelzo is fantastic. Amazing interview.
Glad you enjoyed it!
A rich and enriching conversation. And Allen has a beautiful voice. He should narrate some history or art documentaries, in the mode of Kenneth Clark. 😊 I thoroughly enjoyed this. Well done, Douglas.
So measured, what knowledge, what a temperament, what a voice. Brilliant interview Dougie baby.
Well done, gentlemen. Makes me feel prouder of our country.
Please tell me this series will never end.
This guy has his black belt in story telling!
Guelzo isn't even a Washington specialist. His strong suit is Lincoln, and his knowledge of Lincoln is amazing.
Douglas, in another 5-10 years when all your series guests have past, who, besides you and me will be able to recount these essential histories and accomplished heroes?
The first 15 minutes of this explained the American rebellion to me more clearly than I’d ever known! ❤❤
My distant grandfather was a soldier defending Washington at the Dec 1776 battle at Trenton NJ.
Love you Douglas. Keep up the good work. We are so lucky to have you!!
Interesting, informative and so much needed! Thank you 🙏
American Cincinnatus, the great man. If he were alive today he'd still be known for his integrity, courage and loquacious manner
Top rate series Douglas. More please!
Excellent, informative, honest attempt at real history
24:45 The year 1757 marks the first record of George Washington ordering 20 pounds of chocolate. Throughout his life, he continued to buy chocolate. He bought quantities as small as one pound and as large as 50 pounds, which he purchased three months prior to his death in 1799.
RIP my grandfather Daniel Ashcraft who fought for the revolution. 1737-1834.
Amazing!
Just great, as always.
Becoming one of my favorite online series. Keep it up!
Thank you Douglas ( and your eminent guest(s)), for this platform allowing such REASON to be made accessible to us, refuting trendy dogma so eloquently, and adding to historical truths on the way.
I wonder whether we will still have history scholars defending history 10, 15 years from now. It's not that I'm casting doubt on intellectual integrity of the current generation of scholars. Instead, the societal environment has been nudging people to accept the any hypotheses no matter how ludicrous as long as they serve the desirable political purposes.
All dissenters will be purged or sent to reeducation camps for the mentally disturbed. Soviet style.
Best series ive ever seen. Do it again 👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you Douglas for making video proof of how intelligent the Americans I know are, even if most of the internet that we created serves to offer evidence of our ignorance and stupidity.
I think it is utterly ABSURD for people of today to look through lenses tinted with the colour of the philosophies of 2023 upon the lives of men 250 years ago and then JUDGE them by present values.
These interviews and subject matter is fantastic. I've watched most of them and look forward to the rest. I hope there will be many many more!
Hear-hear Sal!
I took a course in British History while in college and our teacher told us that the reasoning by Parliament for the taxation in the 1760's and 70's was due to the cost of the French-Indian wars. Parliament reasoned that since the conflict was fought in America for Americans they should share in the expense of the war. At least on the surface that appears to be a valid argument.
They colonies were prepared to pay in principle - had parliament simply imposed an amount on each colony and left it to them to raise the money it probably would have met with little resistance. What they disagreed with was having no say in how the taxes were laid. Hence the slogan, "No taxation without representation." There were other issues also -- transporting Americans to Britain to be tried, the Proclamation of 1763 intended to curb the growth of the colonies, and banning trade with anyone except the UK (hence preserving a colonial economic relationship) were some of them.
@@ExVeritateLibertas Lots of colonists thought that just living in the colony "was" their tax.
The colonists themselves fought and died in the war.
the problem is the colonists fought and died in that war and didn't really ask the British to do it, they just did it.
@@kevinprzy4539 And? Does that lessen their contribution?
I took western civ at Eastern University with Guelzo back in the 90s. Glad to see he’s still got it.
Another lovely episode. Thank you both. Your guest reminds me so of Kelsey Grammer.
Yes the “spark” is identifiable 1. He resembled George III a great deal facial so projected “majesty.” 2. From a minor English gentry family originally (I believe his father) he was as close as we could get to “royalty” in the Colonies.
Superb interview. So interesting and beautifully delivered 👍
I love the fact that everybody who rejects elitism, royalty, honours and nobility,
seem to spend the rest of their lives, striving for that precise kind of recognition.
There is a world of difference between choosing to behave in ways that are calculated to bring attention, regard, fame, power, and wealth, and conducting oneself according to principles and values that create results that are, incidentally, recognied, valued, appreciated, and celebrated by others.
I love the fact that you seem to have forgotten the fact that Washington refused a third term as President to avoid even the hint that he was a king or starting a dynasty.
I am so enjoying this series. Please do more Douglas!
What a brilliant discussion about a truly great man. Flawed as all men are, yet truly great.
I really love this series, andd i hope it continues on.
Thank you Douglas.
We often take for granted what we have as Americans, its just our birthright afterall, yet it takes men like Douglas, who is American by choice, to remind us of what it really means to be American, even with all its flaws.
What a brilliant man Allen Guelzo is. I enjoyed listening to this erudite gentleman immensely.
I am posting on this for a reason. The Robert E. Lee video, did two things for me. 1.) Confirmed a rumor by my family that Robert E.Lee was a cousin and 2.) confirmed that an ancestor I could not connect via Ancestry or Family search was either a bigamist or his first marriage was annulled without any surviving record. Why am I posting this here? Because George Washington's sister was my ancestor's direct ancestor and Washington's Granddaughter (by his adopted son) married REL which makes him a cousin by marriage, which confirms the rumor. Thank you, Douglas! I would never have figured this out, or validated my suspicions that my ancestor was married twice if not for your series here.
The mistakes of America's past are nothing in the face of the mistakes of today.
I've listened to all of Allen Guelzo's Teaching Company lectures, all the different series he's made. Brilliant man, very good interview.
Excellent.
My family recently traveled to Ireland for a trip. It was roughly $900.00 per person just for the flight, with three connecting flights and took almost two days of travel time one way. (Including lay overs for each connecting flight). To make the trip worthwhile they needed to plan for 10-14 days of vacation. That is basically an entire years worth of vacation time for the average US worker. Remember four days of that vacation was spent on a plane or in an airport getting there and back. The price listed above was just for airfare for each person (went off season to get a deal on flights) NOT food, car rental, activities, or lodging. In the US we can fly to Florida in about 4 hours, don't need to change currancy, speak a different language and have a tropical vacation in the Keys. No passport required.
Awesome interview Douglas. One thing to note, George Washington is credited for starting the Seven Years (French and Indian) War.
Brilliant interview. Invaluable
Really excellent))) Thank you
As a Virginian and historian, I know that Washington was dismayed at his inability to join the British Army. They snubbed him. Then as an added insult, his purchased goods from England were shoddily packed in straw so that he received broken furniture and bottles of wine and spirits. He was furious at the British arrogance and detestation against Colonials. The insanely over confident and arrogant British generals lost the war out of hubris and a lack of supplies. Loyalists turned against them. Both sides promised black soldiers freedom, but it was seldom honored. The black Rhode Island Regiment was very effective, but no one talks about them as patriots.
Absolutely riveting. Thank you so much.
The most articulate based berserker I’ve ever heard . Love your guest.
Great interview. I wonder, as an Antipodean, how much, distance and relative isolation played, in the beginnings of the United States.
This series is wonderful thanks so much
Glad you enjoy it!
As an American Monarchist, I've often wondered what an alternative America under King Washington would look like.
What an interesting conversation, thank you!
Dr. Guelzo is an American treasure. I am so thankful to have discovered his work through CZcams, his Civil War novels, etc. They are ALL fantastic, but his Robert E. Lee - A Life biography is his masterpiece IMO. The melancholy undertone of the path Lee was forced unto gives it a depth rarely found in Civil War biographies. Should be made into a film if Ted Turner has the money 😂
What a great discussion Mr. Murray! Congratulations on your success, and I shall enjoy further exploring your archives (I feel like Dr. Guelzo could have been featured on several topics here. It was refreshing to hear this recent interview on George Washington by him in the midst of dozens of hours of Civil War talks…could watch 10 more hours of this one!)
I wish you had your own channel to subscribe since I won’t to Nebulous, since I enjoy my history separate from my news. Like in Ghostbusters! Don’t cross the streams…even if I agree with your coverage. I personally indulge in history to escape from the present 🎉
Warmest regards,
Gerald
PS: George Washington hasn’t, and never will never be canceled. Not happening. He’s in the Top 3 Americans (if you like lists) of all time. I dislike the clickbaity questions towards the end, but Dr Guelzo handled uncomfortable, yet fair to uneducated individuals, questions that are being asked today
Allen even looks like George Washington 😆
I’m so glad I found this series and I’ve shared it with many people
an armed and fortified populace who independently own the means of subsistence and production, will never be subjugated.
Superb. Thanks Douglas