24v as a preference. Important to note that not only does your voltage drop numerically halve, because you're starting with a higher voltage your percentage voltage drop is a quarter of the percentage voltage drop which has a huge effect on the visible effects.
12V for short runs, 24V for long runs. Depends on how it is all switched too, sometimes 1 driver is enough, sometimes it may need switching for zones (Ie..under kitchen cupboards) good video fellas.
24v all the time for me .. copper trace thickness comes into play too , had some dodgy results from some reputable brands who use thinner traces, but can usually get away with long runs by injecting power at both ends
Nice.. BUT, when it comes to a Larger project, 24v is the way to go. The reason is answered with your initial equation. Notice that between 12v and 24v, the AMPS are doubled using 12v.. this requires heavier wire [copper], lugs, etc which can really add up in a larger project.
To get around the issue of dimming on a long run, i have connected multiple supply wires at various points along the run, This way you get a consistent brightness, albeit a slightly less lux level throughout the run. At least to my eyes it was.
Hello, great video helped me understand more about led strip lights. Currently working on adding some underneath my kitchen cabinets but I will be cutting and adding wire to gap were light is unwanted nor needed. Now my question is, can I start the power supply in the middle of the run with a "T" to have a better distribution and basically have 2 ends.
I'm hoping to power a 2m LED strip using a bick boost convertor and a 3.7 lithium ion battery. The main issue I've run into using a 5V strip is the only the first few LEDs get any light. I suspect that I'd be better off using a 24V strip with 60 LEDs per m. Not an electrical engineer just trying to learn for a project
hey there, i have many strips of 12v leds, and wanted to know how they would be affected if run on 24v. you would think it would be safer despite having fewer leds that were powered
I really don't see the benefit of 5V LEDs then? If you want a large run of LEDs, then 24V seems to be the way to go. Otherwise, you end up having to have multiple power injection points and a larger wire gauge from your power injection to handle the massive amp requirements.
12 will have less LEDs, the forward voltage to make it illuminate is approx 3v, so generally only 4 in series with 12v, then they use parallel connection of the series strings.
What the difference between 12v and 24v LED strip ? Um the two numbers 😂 24 is totally different to 12 same as 12 is different to 6 😂 what a load of faff just to get some light? Fantastic video guy’s as always 👍👍❤️
Not on topic but. Cable groupings: I am running conduit between two switches so have runner from one to second. Return wire back to first switch to feed the lights. Is this two circuits or one circuit for the calculation? In this case am running two circuits in 25mm conduit and know that if the eight wires in the conduit only four will carry power at any time. But. Is that two circuits or four circuits for cable grouping? (0.8 or 0.65)
What a great question Adam, I'll probably do a Q&A video on this at some point but just with the information you've given me here I'd bear in mind two points. The first is how heavily loaded those conductors are, if they're only feeding one light fitting the current in them will be low meaning that Note 9 of Table 4C1 will come into effect (meaning you might not have to apply a grouping factor at all). Also if you think about a normal cable feeding a load you've got current flowing in line and neutral but we treat it as just one circuit not two conductors, so in your case current would flow down one line conductor and back the other way giving you effectively one circuit. The principle of Note 5 for table 4C1 applies here giving you two circuits for grouping not four. Hope this answer helps. 😊
hello i need your help. i have a DMX512 DECODER 32 channel with 8outs of RGBW+V where am connecting the strips. on this Decoder can i connect a led strip that is WS2812B DC5V LED Strip RGB 1M 144 Pixels Smart Addressable Black PCB WS2812 IC Full Color ? will it work? thank you
to me the difference is location.... we use 12 volt here because we use 120 volt power for daily use... In europe, they use 24 volt, because they use 240 volt for daily use.... same transformer, different input voltage.... 1 to 10 ratio....
Hi I have a 24V strip and I want to change run it from a battery - is this possible? Or would it be better to get a 12V strip? What would be the difference between 12 V vs 24V if you want them to be mobile?
All depends upon the battery arrangement - either can be powered from battery. However 12 v batteries are more common. You'd have to use two in series for a 24v strip.
24v as a preference. Important to note that not only does your voltage drop numerically halve, because you're starting with a higher voltage your percentage voltage drop is a quarter of the percentage voltage drop which has a huge effect on the visible effects.
I was about to comment I think the difference is 12v 🤦🏻♂️ Gary beat me to it 😤
12V for short runs, 24V for long runs. Depends on how it is all switched too, sometimes 1 driver is enough, sometimes it may need switching for zones (Ie..under kitchen cupboards) good video fellas.
24v all the time for me .. copper trace thickness comes into play too , had some dodgy results from some reputable brands who use thinner traces, but can usually get away with long runs by injecting power at both ends
Nice.. BUT, when it comes to a Larger project, 24v is the way to go. The reason is answered with your initial equation. Notice that between 12v and 24v, the AMPS are doubled using 12v.. this requires heavier wire [copper], lugs, etc which can really add up in a larger project.
To get around the issue of dimming on a long run, i have connected multiple supply wires at various points along the run, This way you get a consistent brightness, albeit a slightly less lux level throughout the run. At least to my eyes it was.
This a great video chaps . Helped me understand the differences between the two
Hello, great video helped me understand more about led strip lights. Currently working on adding some underneath my kitchen cabinets but I will be cutting and adding wire to gap were light is unwanted nor needed. Now my question is, can I start the power supply in the middle of the run with a "T" to have a better distribution and basically have 2 ends.
It it standard that 24v strip should be housed in aluminium channel if installed on woodwork?
I'm hoping to power a 2m LED strip using a bick boost convertor and a 3.7 lithium ion battery. The main issue I've run into using a 5V strip is the only the first few LEDs get any light. I suspect that I'd be better off using a 24V strip with 60 LEDs per m. Not an electrical engineer just trying to learn for a project
hey there, i have many strips of 12v leds, and wanted to know how they would be affected if run on 24v. you would think it would be safer despite having fewer leds that were powered
Voltage drop issues are best avoided by powering the strip from both ends at the same time.
also depends on the wire gauge you are using. thicker and more solid wire can carry higher current further.
I have new LED UV 12 volt light strips. I cut off the power supply and wired it up to my 12 volt car battery. Now it doesn't work. What have I done?
I really don't see the benefit of 5V LEDs then?
If you want a large run of LEDs, then 24V seems to be the way to go. Otherwise, you end up having to have multiple power injection points and a larger wire gauge from your power injection to handle the massive amp requirements.
Would a 12v strip be brighter if I dialed up the Voltage supply to 14, 15, or maybe higher?
12 will have less LEDs, the forward voltage to make it illuminate is approx 3v, so generally only 4 in series with 12v, then they use parallel connection of the series strings.
What the difference between 12v and 24v LED strip ? Um the two numbers 😂 24 is totally different to 12 same as 12 is different to 6 😂 what a load of faff just to get some light?
Fantastic video guy’s as always 👍👍❤️
Nice one lads. Great explanation
Not on topic but. Cable groupings: I am running conduit between two switches so have runner from one to second. Return wire back to first switch to feed the lights. Is this two circuits or one circuit for the calculation? In this case am running two circuits in 25mm conduit and know that if the eight wires in the conduit only four will carry power at any time. But. Is that two circuits or four circuits for cable grouping? (0.8 or 0.65)
What a great question Adam, I'll probably do a Q&A video on this at some point but just with the information you've given me here I'd bear in mind two points. The first is how heavily loaded those conductors are, if they're only feeding one light fitting the current in them will be low meaning that Note 9 of Table 4C1 will come into effect (meaning you might not have to apply a grouping factor at all). Also if you think about a normal cable feeding a load you've got current flowing in line and neutral but we treat it as just one circuit not two conductors, so in your case current would flow down one line conductor and back the other way giving you effectively one circuit. The principle of Note 5 for table 4C1 applies here giving you two circuits for grouping not four. Hope this answer helps. 😊
hello
i need your help.
i have a DMX512 DECODER 32 channel with 8outs of RGBW+V where am connecting the strips. on this Decoder can i connect a led strip that is
WS2812B DC5V LED Strip RGB 1M 144 Pixels Smart Addressable Black PCB WS2812 IC Full Color ?
will it work?
thank you
efixx are interested in my led strip installations ? They're a bit ropey.
Whats the best for indirect shelve lighting
to me the difference is location.... we use 12 volt here because we use 120 volt power for daily use... In europe, they use 24 volt, because they use 240 volt for daily use.... same transformer, different input voltage.... 1 to 10 ratio....
I use GM lighting.. supply house sells me 12volt. The only trouble I come across is flickering lights with certain dimmers
Is the led driver dimmable?
@@efixx yes just some dimmers are not compatible
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Hi I have a 24V strip and I want to change run it from a battery - is this possible? Or would it be better to get a 12V strip? What would be the difference between 12 V vs 24V if you want them to be mobile?
All depends upon the battery arrangement - either can be powered from battery. However 12 v batteries are more common. You'd have to use two in series for a 24v strip.
What about cable sizes when it comes to current carrying capacity with extra low voltage dc?
Current is current whether it's at 230v or 12v, the cable sizing stays the same with regards to current draw as far as I'm aware.
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About 12 volts.
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