Thor Ragnarok Changed a Franchise, Literally
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- Is Thor Ragnarok the perfect reboot? Mikey lays out why he sure thinks it is!
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Moral of the story: nothing unites two siblings like picking on the third sibling.
Speaking of teaming up against a common enemy, this current phenomenon of the 'Ragnarok shitting on Dark World era' kind of mirrors the current war by Cinema Wins, et al on the Cinema Sins era. This is all the fault of the precedent eras for not evolving or being versatile enough to remain relevant or fit for overall purpose.
Ultra Nerd this is so true on so many levels
It’s how I bonded with my sister as a kid, seriously. Nothing like a new baby getting doted on to make people realize your parents are shitstains
Haha, as a younger sibling I can affirm this
I felt that
Seeing Loki being impacted by Odin including him in "my sons" hit me HarrrrrRRRRRD
Let me tell you about HURT 😭
"Is it a God Complex if you're already a God?" Well, it's complex.
GOT 'EM
I Still can't believe they got away with "you get pulled off by a hammer" in a Disney movie.
I literally spat my popcorn into the seats in front is me .
It's not a common euphemism in America though, I thought.
@@MostlyPennyCat thats why they got away with it.
The key to getting things by overzealous puritan execs is to couch the language in a charming New Zealander accent, and to word it in a way not common in the US. Taiki Waititi is a genius at this.
i yelled the first time i heard that
"Yea nah, Doug's dead" is still the best thing uttered by a character in a movie
No its " Piss off ghost"
@@raydenjansen52 no it’s ‘ weesa guna die ‘
Straight Shakespeare here. Badly dressed weirdos with masters degrees will be spouting “Piss off ghost!” with bad Kiwi accents in public city parks full of picnicking yuppies 450 years from now.
I was not expecting to relate to Hela as much as I did... She was raised and used by her father as weapon of mass destruction, just to be tossed away, locked up and erased from history when he wanted to change his image.
Cate Blanchett's delivery of the "I thought you'd be happy to see me" is perfect! It shows so much with so little.
I live for Cate Blanchet but I live twice as hard for her chewing scenery in the most magnificent way possible.
That's not why she was tossed away. She was tossed away because she tried to kill Odin and steal the throne.
OriginalTharios
Yep, God has a complex
and he’s full of him self 🙃😉
Imagine ''realting'' to a one-dimensional girlboss who exists only to be a boring obstacle that the titular character overcome by killing her with a McGuffin and who didn't succeed in her so-called plan because the so-called writers forgot to watch the better Thor movie from 2011 which shows that Odin's spear can open the portals. None of that nonsense you spelled out is in the movie, superficially or otherwise.
The best beat at the end is when Thor pats him on the back,is immediately doublecrossed, tripplecrosses (With that pat on the back) Loki, and then tells his brother he's too predictable. That's when I lost my mind.
Taika Waititi should reboot Avatar The Last Airbender. It should have been a comedy-action like Ragnarok.
WOULD WATCH
Cher Noble Dude, that would kick ass.
TAKE ALL MY MONEY
Oh my God of thunder. I never realized that I could want something so badly.
This is a criminally underrated comment holy shit u blew my mind by just imagining what that would look like he is THE perfect choice for that franchise I hope a studio sees ur comment! C'mon internet make this happen lol!
TDLR ; Thor got an actual character, an arc, and a memorable movie, all in one movie.
Exactly, that movie is Thor 2011
what’s TDLR
@@manny4569 look it up
@@emanuelrojas2 the irony of tdlr on a video comment is gold
….It’s ‘TLDR’ …..you essentially wrote ‘ Too Didn’t Long Read ‘ ……good job!
What impressed me most about Thor: Ragnarok was the statement it made about the past and institutions built upon it. Hela exposed the Asgardian utopia as being built upon a legacy of bloody conquest and then whitewashed over. Upon this realization, the film then made a daring statement: perhaps it is best to tear down those institutions, and perhaps what makes a nation great is not how much it has conquered, but the lives of the people that live within that nation. I never expected that kind of message in such a fun and colorful movie.
Your comment perfectly describes America.
Kuma El Negro You are correct. That implication was my intent. One could say that Hela wanted to "Make Asguard Great Again". Thor made sure what had been built to glorify that "greatness" was torn down, so that a new identity could begin to be created.
One can hope America will learn something from this example.
Yo so in had to pause the video so I could read this comment & take it all in. Dammit you are right, I didn't see that in the movie but dammit if it's not true.
I always say Super Hero movies are nothing but good stories told in such a flasher style so the underlying point came get across.
Hopefully the Oscars can see that but who cares if they don't. One person can teach a class on topics like what you posted & change lives forever.
I hope the general society can see that, let hope
Patrick Wilson But I don’t like that really. I don’t think the comics ever suggested that Asgard was some colonial power
Trajan - But this is not the comics though, it's the MCU & in the MCU Odin & Hela spent their time conquering (or at least trying to) the 9 Realms.
When Odin grew tired of it he locked Hela away & took the Hammer from her which he gave Thor.
I still say, "Piss off, ghost!" every once in a while.
To be fair, Winter Soldier arguably changed the tone and narrative of the Captain America franchise to astonishingly positive effect
Thor and CA were heroes I had no interest in because I found them boring as hell. And then Winter Soldier and Ragnarok happened and they both shot straight to the top. Seriously, it would have been a CRIME if both actors and their characters hadn't gotten those chances to really flex their skills instead of just their muscles. Now I just hold out hope for some of the others from the original group get those same chances... black widow, Hawkeye, and hulk, I love them all already, but they really deserve to get a taste of the "let's add a few more notes to the one you're already playing" treatment.
Because water was relatively scarce, when bathing only one tub would have been used to clean the whole family. It was customary for the father to bathe first, followed by the mother, then each child in order of oldest to youngest.
When it came time to throw out the bathwater, the baby would have been the last to use it, ergo...
"Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater."
Minihood31770 +
Just one correction. Water wasn't scarce, it just took a lot of effort to heat it for bathing. 'Cause, you know, no indoor plumbing. They had to get buckets of water from the well, carry them inside, heat them in a kettle on the stove, and fill the tub one boiling kettle at a time.
From my understanding, the purest of the pure, in other words the youngest to the oldest went first because the youngest child's body dirt would be less than the oldest, especially if they are babies. The water would also be too cold by the time you put the youngest in the tub. Not good for a child.
It's interesting how in both Thor: Ragnarok and Black Panther the titular heroes realize their dead royal fathers were actually terrible people and the monsters they created come back to haunt them. And it just so happens that Hela and Killmonger are among the top MCU villains. Both movies tried something different and it definitely paid off.
Martin Amarilla Killmonger would be a good villain if he wasn't a blatantly racist black supremacist. He was the WEAKEST part of the movie
Dylan Cross he hated the fact black people were oppressed and wakanda,literally the most powerful nation full of black people,wasn't helping
AsironID Does that make him being racist and a black supremacist suddenly Okay? Not to mention the fact that he did something, openly admitted to something that got his father killed? Betraying fucking Wakanda? You don't get to come in and say "I want the throne" after that. The whole conflict was manufactured as hell
Dylan Cross you seem like the person i can't have a conversation with so bye.
AsironID Because I don't think Killmonger is the perfect villain?
To me, Karl Urban always stands out in everything he''s in.
Especially when he just chews the scenery.
I never realized the meta-level of Odin/Loki's play (and the movie in general) until I watched your video. And now I have watched The Dark World again recently and realized that the choir sang the same goddamn score they used in Loki's dying scene and I just... I can never take that movie seriously again, thanks a lot XD
Came here from Cinema Wins.
Was not disappointed ❤️
me too. great find
I think what gets me about Loki, is that in the previous movies, you can kinda pick out that he takes it for granted that Thor will forgive him. Not because he necessarily wants to be forgiven, but because in his mind, Thor is "the dumb sentimental one" and as long as Thor thinks he can turn around and come home, Loki can go "fuck that, I don't want to". You can kinda see some threads of it in Thor 2 when he seems to miss out on Thor having faith in him, but then he betrays and tricks Thor anyway and Thor is given a 'oh now that he's dead, maybe he could have been better" viewpoint. This movie solidifies for Thor that Loki cannot come back. Loki tricked him, with no hint of remorse. He mourned for his brother. That's a deep betrayal. And so any hint of expectation and trust is gone. And Thor isn't even mad. He just accepts that Loki will always hurt him. And sometimes, that can be enough to turn a guy around.
Because despite everything, Loki grew up thinking Thor was his big brother. He's jealous, a bit petty, but he does love his brother. And to finally lose that faith, that trust, it opens one's eyes. Thor was no longer "the dumb sentimental one". Instead, he was the sentimental one, because he missed it. And it makes me eager to see Infinity War, to see if Loki will stick to this or go back to his old ways.
botOxymoron or maybe loki is glad that the fantasy version of a little brother that Thor clinged to is gone and there isn't the expectation that truth, honour and justice works for everyone. You can lose a battle and win a war, you can tell white lies and diplomacy is pragmatic, and justice is a facade in a kingdom where no one agreed to the law of their colonialised king.
That's a good point too! Thor had the chance to really prove himself in this movie, and maybe Loki finally saw him as a leader to stand behind. Part of Loki's motivation in Thor 1 after all, was thinking Thor would be a terrible king. And considering his previous behavior and comparing it to how Odin apparently used to run his kingdom... Thor has the chance to be much wiser than his father.
botOxymoron
Yeah, now Thor finally has the potential to be a wiser king than Odin and Loki ever were.
Loki probably wanted a challenge too and now thor finally learns, so now thor stopped falling for his old tricks and if loki's plans are overcomplicated(which is usually why they fail) thor would critique it, instead of dismiss it and he was willing to use some of loki's tactics in thor 2. I totally agree that loki always expected to be forgiven by thor and that he expected odin to ignore him and his mother to stand by him and be accepting, but never stand up for him.
I actually did wonder if loki was up to his old tricks in the ending of thor 3 and he can make his clones "hard light" now, but that's just going to be another head-canon
@Damia Savon well
This comment did not age well
Taika Waititi: hey Cate, you know that thing you did in Fellowship where you freaked out over the ring?
Cate: yeah?
Waititi: wanna do that for 2 hours?
Cate: *finger snap*
You son of a bitch I'm in.
This movie rocks because someone gave the set designers some old Jack Kirby comic books and said, "Hey see all the doodling he did in the background to fill up space? Can you do that and make it look kinda real?"
Jack Kirby would've hated every second of this movie. Kirby was doing with the comics what Snyder tried to do with superhero movies - he saw superheros as larger-than-life, epic, and full of Shakespearen pathos. When Kirby drew Ragnarok, Ragnarok it was. Big, ugly, moody, dreadful battle of all battles, with Thor battling the spawn of Loki, the Midgard Serpent, and spawns of Hel attacking the gates of Asgard, with every Aesir God fighting together.
This movie was godawful trash.
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Samuel Surfboard me too
Seriously. I was grinning ear to ear by the end of this video, I just loved it so much. A++ video essaying and top notch humor. I'm excited to check out the rest of his channel.
FilmJoy when cinema wins sent us over, you had 94k subs, now you're up 10k subs! Congrats! You deserve 10x as many subs tho, you're content is simply amazing
Cinemawins also sent me...your channel is sick dude. How its only got 100k subs is a mystery to me...1 more now at least :) Do you edit these yourself? It's better than most films that come out these days. More insightful than cinemawins, better looking than The Closer Look. You may be my new favourite film guy.
I'd really like to discuss how the MCU is kind of outgrowing comic books themselves. Comic books, by some necessity, can never change much. And thus there is no real character development. Peter Parker can never get over Uncle Ben's death, and therefore can never really be allowed to be more than a character balancing normal life with superheroing.
But in Thor Ragnarok, Odin dies, Asgard is destroyed, and Loki is redeemed. It's not even the first time since SHIELD is also basically defunct. Early in the MCU people used to want to expect to see on screen what they had already read in comic books, within a reasonable degree of adaptation. But now the whole MCU is on uncharted territory where the filmmakers are more inspired by comic stories but not beholden to them, and that's just exciting.
By the very nature of their mediums, comic books are stuck with a generally perpetually rebooted status quo, while the movies are under more pressure just by how they operate, to make characters who change and grow. Tony Stark outgrows his chest implant, Thor outgrows his hammer, Captain America outgrows his shield. Those are some powerful character growth stories and I love it.
Uncle Dan so true. I teach history and literature and I hate a story with no character development. It is not a good story or worth my time if the characters don’t change. Being stuck in a perpetual loop, where they same things keep happening over and over again is just stagnation. That is why I am so sad and annoyed with he state of our nation. We should learn something about how to deal with situations by reflecting on the past (which is why knowing history is important). If we don’t, stupid human nature takes over and awful things keep happening.😡😔
Uncle Dan I agree.
That's true, I saw an interview with the Russo brothers (Infinity War & Winter Solider directors) where they said that they aren't using any existing Marvel comic books. The next Avengers film will be totally new, something we haven't seen or read before.
Those kinds of character arcs, deaths and game-changers are done in comics, though less often. The thing is that the timeline for comics has been sort of reset towards status quo or a new status quo to start from again a few times as well after such arcs, and you have the fact that it's a multiverse with a bunch of different iterations of the same character (MCU being an example of a different universe than 616, the 'standard' setting for Marvel). It also depends on how much other series might rest on something.
Another element is that comic book re-characterisation and development tends to move at a slower pace; a character might grow over a few years but that's not going to be nearly as instantly felt or noticeable as it would have to be to fit into a 2 hour movie. On top of that, because comics run for decades characters also tend to move along with their times, which one could argue for as development or progress in characterisation, but I'm not sure you'd be willing to count that.
It's also a lot harder to switch up one of the most famous Avengers completely than it is to let for example the Young Avengers or one of the X-men b-teams or other less famous teams or characters go through a serious character arc to some extent, both because flagship properties have dedicated fans that will resist change more and have more riding on them financially, as well as that such changes have to ripple through a whole bunch of other properties as well, as there are constant crossovers of concurrently running series that have to be coordinated.
But I would like to argue against 'there's no character development in comic books'. Some of the character development has been undone again afterward, and the best examples aren't per se in the flagship properties, but it seems far too broad and sort of demeaning a statement. And this is only talking about mainstream superhero comics, apart from all the smaller series, indie comics and things like that that exist.
I completely agree! Plus movies have more of a time crunch than comics do since the actors get older or want to move on to new projects. Unlike comic books, they have to adapt continuously just to keep pace
For number 6, dont forget Kevin Smith. He told Hemsworth that he was missing out on alot of what the character was and helped inspire Hemsworth to go in a new direction when he was thinking about leaving
13:47 "This movie is composed of the people that no other film makers really wanted to push story lines for in their movies"
*So true*
Let's not forget the person who made it all possible. I'm talking of course, about Darryl.
Niiiice. (For those who don't know, czcams.com/video/1_v76eV55B8/video.html )
Daryl survived the snap
And Doug
Music for 'A Ballad for Loki' section in this video is "Jim Croce - Time in a bottle". Classic.
dfgdfg thank you I was gonna go crazy if I couldn’t figure it out
Thanks you
Thank you so much!
Thanks!
thankx
Man your editing is good. Subbed!
One thing is clear: Odin was the real villain in Thor trilogy all along.
Thor is more likely the adopted one (in terms of looks.
And as @Wixhael has commented, nothing brings two siblings closer than picking on the third one. That makes me relieved personally, since I'm younger of the two kids my parents have
Team up with Cinema Wins?! Perfect! You two are my favorite positive-movie channels
[T] Thanks! Yeah CinemaWins team is phenomenal. :)
Art Souls right? We need that positivity around
Art Souls amazing idea
If I'm not mistaken, you guys have gone up almost 20k subs since Friday's release... I still have the Pirates Antiquing open from Thursday and it says 92k subs, and now you're up to 111k! *Fantastic*!
Art Souls SAME.
Total agreement all the way through. Arguably the best moment in the whole movie is T:R's version of "Hulk? Smash." Which is when Thor tells Loki to basically go forth and do the worst possible thing. And Loki's all, "Bro. BRO. F YEAH."
I imagine that when they say things were improvised they refer more to tone and delivery. Something about how organic the interaction feels works great
With all respect for Kenneth Branagh, I couldn’t get into the first two Thor movies. I felt like I was watching fascinating characters being stuffed into King Lear or Othello or Hamlet or Coriolanus.
Even Shakespeare’s most dramatic tragedies have a lot of humor. I didn’t see a lot of that in Thor 1 and 2.
Branagh takes Shakespeare far more seriously than Shakespeare took himself.
I suspect William would have loved Ragnarok.
And Civil War - that’s a huge tragedy that, until the last 15-20 minutes, keeps providing unexpected comic relief.
Great video as always, Mikey, but I want to make the case that Nebula's backstory is almost the same as Loki's but about 10 times more horrific. Loki's story is up there, but Thanos is a magnitude worse than Odin, and nobody was replacing his body parts when he lost to Thor in battle.
Nebula is a great character and there's no question she suffered more direct abuse. But I don't think we need to have a competition for abuse. I think the way Loki was mistreated was very different, more psychological. There's no love lost between Nebula and Thanos, but Loki and Odin loved each other - and still Odin brought him up to hate himself, even if unintentionally, and planned to use him as a political chit. Sometimes that happens in real life - you love each other but do terrible things regardless. Both Nebz and the Lokester are two of my fave MCU characters in any case, mostly because they've had these horrible experiences and, in a kinda true-to-life way, haven't handled them all that well.
The scene in Infinity War where Nebula was being held in a field that SEPARATED HER BODY still horrified me. That alone tells me that her daddy issues mostly relate to how she feels about Gamora and not that they actually love the giant purple ‘dad of the year’
@@deztn_bot8915 ...now consider that immediately prior to The Avengers, Loki spent roughly a year in the place where Thanos lives, with all the likely horror that that entails. Loki's actor described this time as Loki going through "the seventh circle of Hell," and we have concrete proof that he was being influenced by the scepter (amplifying his negative emotions), good reason to suspect that his memories had been tampered with (thinks that Thor threw him into an abyss, rather than him letting go), and also good reason to suspect that a good chunk of that year could've been literal torture trying to make him more useful to Thanos (much like Nebula).
The evidence does pile up toward Loki being a far more sympathetic villain in Avengers than you might expect, but it does go a long way to explain why his actions in that film are quite the outlier. And it makes his life imprisonment in Thor 2 so much more horrific.
Aaaaaaaaaah the Loki section yes!
I love the direction they took with him in Ragnarok because he finally feels like the God of Mischief and not just... Idiot Moron Shit-Weasel (thanks for that). I feel like Loki kind of suffered from Hades Syndrome for a while -- like, "we need a villain so let's take this chaotic neutral-ish character and make them Straight Up Evil just cuz. Motivation? Um... idk like world domination or something?" So it's nice to see something different happening and also I'm a sucker for "villain-turned-annoying-sidekick" story arcs.
So yeah. Good video, dude.
Alexa Renae
And the fans see him as abused and always trying to please the wrong people
Celina k now they must be happy because he may die in Infinity War protecting Thor.
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To be fair, that was his characterization in the comics. Tom Hiddleston gave a bit of a woobiness to the character which eventually lead to this.
I really don't see the abuse, though. He was loved, but Odin didn't know how to deal with him. Freya did, but Loki was so hung up on pleasing Odin, that he completely ignored what he already had. Thor loved him but also took him for granted because he was always there. Which is how real siblings *are.* I see a lot of my own family in here. We all care for each other, but we're not necessarily good at showing it and sometimes we can be thoughtless. The one advantage we have is that we're a lot more open and can talk about the past and work through and understand all the crazy.
brigidtheirish Zack Stentz has commented on the self - loathing of loki, which probably also lead to some of his woobification.
I have list, though some of it is more fanon
I believe you. I've read fanfiction taking a sort of cliffnotes version of Norse mythology to paint Loki as abused and the rest of the gods as violent bullies. Not that the Norse gods aren't jerks by contemporary standards, but if these people bothered to *read* the myths with any understanding of the source culture, they'd realize Loki brought most of his suffering on himself.
I loved virtually every moment of this analysis. But my favorite moment - the one that sealed my adoration for this channel - came when you left in that you didn't know Mark Mothersbaugh did the score for this movie. You could have edited that out. You could have hidden this ignorance. But because you left it in, it makes you so much more incredible.
Thank you, and good night!
Just watched Thor and did cenima wins. Came here from the man love that guy has for you. Glad I did too. Gonna have to watch all your vids in the upcoming future. Great work!
They had Spider-Man Homecoming, Thor: Ragnarok, Black Panther, and Avengers: Infinity War back-to-back-to-back-to-back. That’s a fucking grand slam.
Tbh Spiderman wasnt anything special and Black Panther didn't really click with me. Thor Ragnarok on the other hand was superb!
Not to mention GotG2 (AKA "let's do all of the great things we did in the first film again, but this time with character development too"). With the exception of Doctor Strange, phase 3 has been pretty much PERFECT.
Guy R I didn’t dislike GOTG2 but I honestly think the first one was better. Doctor Strange was still pretty good. They really haven’t had a movie that isn’t very good yet in phase 3. 10 years in and they are doing there best work.
The first GotG was a lot of fun, but the second one was just so much more emotional and personal, IMO. The second film finally grabbed these cool characters and TOOK THEM SOMEWHERE, changed them, and used them to say something meaningful about life. It was a huge step up.
I agree with you about the rest of phase 3, though (minus DS).
Guy R I agree. But the first time I watched, the first feeling I felt was, that wasn’t as good as the first.
goal: be a god believing in himself
Had to come back and rewatch this before Infinity War. Love what you did in this video, and really feeling you on the Loki redemption thing. Personally, I credit not only Taika and the other writers for finding a way to make it happen, but also Tom Hiddleston who added contrast and authenticity to the performance.
I love the knowing anti-colonialist/anti-imperialist/indigenous-futurist stance Waititi infuses 'Thor: Ragnarok' with... but its real success is that it's also super campy/funny at the same time. I wish the studios would've let Valkyrie be openly bi on-screen, though.
it is still cool that she got to be a strong yet vulnerable female character though, sadly not enough of those
@@laurenbastin8849 Exactly, I like the tough hard-boiled maverick detective/veteran trope and I like that more female characters are getting the spotlight in those types roles like Valkyrie and Jessica Jones.
So how familiar are you with the historical good of colonialism?
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Loki is BY FAR my favorite villain in any form of media, because I can relate to him. As one of five brothers, I was often left in the shadows of there "glory". They're handsome star athletes, while I'm the intellectual in the back ground. His bitterness towards Thor is totally realistic and relatable.
Robust Titan They also seem to low key bully him, tag along little brother the warriors can ignore
Celina k Yep. And yet they act like they didn't set him on this path.
Tom Hiddleston is Perfect as Loke.
Those credits of yours catch me by surprise every time. Like "It's over already?"
Amazing video, not just the breakdown of the movie but the editing and writing is so entertaining!
CinemaWins sent me here; I'm so glad he did
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I mean, internet doesn't woobify Loki-Baby for nothing :D
I've binged a your channel, I'm now a subscriber and a fan. Clear headed positivity is a much needed commodity - thanks for bringing joy to the internets.
Hello Mikey! I’m here from the ‘cinema Wins’ channel. Love all your videos.
Cinema Wins brought you to my attention and now I have found my new binge channel =D You two are great =D Love finding positive channels on youtube =D
[T] Thank you, and welcome - binge away! We're big believers that constructive criticism/analysis is > cynicism
Best superhero movie of 2017! Subversive, self-aware and more experimental than it had any right to be, while still being a sharp commentary on the legacy of imperialism / colonialism...
And it's funny as fuck
Loved that short use of Rugrats music callin out to Mark Mothersbaugh’s BANGIN score
I agree with your thoughts on loki. but especially I think it was a really smart move in general on the part of the movie to GIVE him that redemption because he is hands down to this day STILL one of the fan favorite characters in the movies and leaving him as a villian wasn't going to work forever when the fans loved him so much. by letting him be the good guy and working towards a redemption for him it will drag back into the mcu fandom a lot of those ol' loki stans.
Checking you out due to CinemaWins recommendations 🙂
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here from the very wholesome cinemawins, so far very pleased
Ikr
"Piss off ghost!" = Favourite most quoted line too! :-)
Absolutely awesome video, great work, as always!
Cinema wins sent me... subscribed.... did enjoy this video essay. You would be a cool person to have a discussion with.
If you just found Movies With Mikey you are in for a real treat. When I found him I blew through his back catalog in like, half a day.
mygetrichslowplan Indeed. Going through them now!
as one of the 3 hawkeye fans on the planet I'm mad that you keep making fun of him
Shea Lupkes
Hello Hawkeye fan #2. My name is Hawkeye fan #3. Have you found Hawkeye fan #1 yet?
biznu bizzness still working on it, they're less vocal than we
Ok then. We must find him soon. He was the original after all.
Hey, Hawkeye fan #4 here I can't believe you guys forgot about me. I wonder where #1 is?
There is no Hawkeye Fan #4 we disowned him after he said the Bola Arrow was more useful than the Putty Arrow
Love the vid! The history nerd in me wants to expand on the bath thing...back in the day people would share the bath water starting with the oldest. So by the time the youngest got to bathe, the water would be soooo dirty that you could possibley throw the baby out with the bath water.
LOVE this channel - keep up the awesome work man
About 19 minutes in you talk about Loki. You made the mistake of saying that Odin killed Loki's father. That is not true, because it is Laufre who is Loki's father, and Loki killed him in the first Thor movie.
frionelhero yea Odin nicked a baby to have a puppet king
frionelhero the effect is largely the same. "Taken by a man who conquered and subjugated his father's kingdom, then that same man who took him allows that subjugated kingdom's people to become the villains in racist bedtime fables, and raises him in the shadow of a litteral god. Also, is the type of man who, when confronted about it, feels it appropriate to imply that the kid he took was abandoned purposefully by his birth parents." Still might make you a feel like being a bit of an asshole.
Yesssss. I'm so ready for Mikey to talk about Ragnarok!
The background set designs and costume designs are straight out of late 60's-early 70's Jack Kirby comics.
Hey Mikey, just wanted to say thank you for making such an excellent video. I appreciate you perspective and narrative honest! I watch this video nearly once a week and I use this video (and your Baby Driver video, of course) to introduce people to your positive and engaging channel :)
Thank you for being such an genuine human being :)
I'm a newer fan of yours, Mikey, since about last year. But it absolutely warms my heart that CinemaWins gave you this push. You absolutely deserve it. You're sorely underrated and deserve so much more attention. Heck, after watching this, I jumped over to CinemaWins to watch his new Thor video. When I popped back here, your subscriber count already went from 102k to 103k.
I'm gonna check back on this in a week or two and hope that number has doubled, if not tripled. With CinemaWin's subscriber count, I think that's totally doable.
This was good, but 17:40 on won me over. Subbed.
The song is Jim Croce's Time in a Bottle. I subbed for the same reason.
Mikey. You are a blessing to not only the CZcams community, but to everyone everywhere. Keep up the amazing work and I hope your fan base grows as fast as my love for every video you upload.
Cinemawins sent me, and I'm glad I came. New sub! Plus, you and cinemawins have inspired me to create positive outlooking content as well. Sure there is plenty of nit-picky negative things to easily get full on, but there is so much good and awesomeness to indulge on as well. You and Cinemawins are always good for when I'm having a crummy day and the amount of detail you two put into your videos is...godlike! Keep it up sir!
Love the use of that good Mark Mothersbaugh soundtrack at 14:46
Odin doesn't kill Loki's dad in the MCU. Laufey is Loki's dad and Loki kills him in Odin's bed chamber during the first Thor movie.
Laufey threw baby Loki out into the cold to die for being to small, where Odin found him.
That's what "Odin" said! Who knows what really happened...
Who cares dude
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the channel! So great to listen to people who want to celebrate films! Love it!
I stumbled on your vids by chance today and you gained yourself a subscriber instantly. It's so refreshing to watch and listen to well thought out videos that don't just shit on every film but instead celebrate them. And I love your editing and your jokes. Subscribed and liked and ringed and shared!
76 characters confirmed for Avengers: Infinity War...
That’s pretty scary and surreal as to how huge the MCU has grown. I can’t even begin to guess how many characters there were in Avengers Endgame. Has to have been a lot more than you mentioned in IW. Just incredibly amazing.
cinemawins sent me here
[T] Welcome, new friend!
Conrad San Jose Wow such an original comment!
FilmJoy Thanks chief. You just earned a new subscriber from Philippines.
Cinema Sins is actually what sent me in your direction Mikey. About a year ago. Now watching your channel and his are my happy place. Thanks for everything you do!😊
This might be my third re-watch of this video and ... 🤗🥰
Thank you, Mikey, yet again, for your lovely video essays!
This is definitely my favorite MCU movie so far. The comedy, setting, and characters all add up to make a fantastic movie.
Did you coordinate this with CinemaWins, or is it a complete coincidence that you both released a Thor: Ragnarok vid like a minute apart from each other? Either way, I know what I'm gonna be doing for the next 45 minutes XD
Mattias Westby I am going to assume you watched till the end of the video and know the answer
Mattias Westby Plot twist they're the same people
This is the most low key/chill MCU analysis video, and honestly, I’m fucking here for it.
I like your approach to talking about movies. Great job! Subscribed👍🏽
Hey man, love your review. I also think this movie was a game changer, one we didn't ask for, or even need, but one that enriches this franchise in so many unexpected ways. Hands down it's my favorite marvel movie. I feel you when you talk about the redemption of loki. It was very tastefully done and it didn't feel like a character arc forced on him and I really appreciate how nice the writers were to him. He was destined for a much crueler fate before this movie came out. I was also adopted and I know what it is like to grow up in the shadow of other people lives, so I have some sympathy for him.
Anywho, good stuff! I'm glad I watched your review!
This is my first Movies with Mikey...and, I'm only here because CinemaWins recommended it. BRILLIANT! Love this channel. Mikey sounds drunk or high or both, like that wise stoner friend who -even bombed out of his mind- can still drop some amazing wisdom. Looking forward to seeing the other videos on here.
Came from Cinema Wins, love your video commentary style, subscribed!
Happy to discover this channel (Thanks Cinema Wins!)
I'm off to watch the whole Movies with Mikey playlist
Man I swear to God you made me cry while I was laughing and my heart broke yet again for Loki (please don’t die in Infinity War) I FREAKING LOVE THIS MOVIE 😭😭
Thanks to CinemaWins for sending me here I’m definitely subscribing!
I watched this soon after Inifinity War...that last section had me crying....
Iria S Loki deserved better ..
I just watched this for the first time on Wednesday. So glad to be able to begin consuming all of the commentary stuff, and thrilled to be able to start with this!
You have another new subscriber. You're well spoken, funny, good with editing and your voice isn't annoying.
Oh and your sound levels are great throughout the production. At no point did I want to turn you up or down. That takes more skill than people give credit for.
Keep up the good work and keep honing your craft.
Both you and Cimemawins have had brilliant insights on this movie. Really loved your review!
One of the funniest and most charming films I’ve ever seen
Great video as always :)
It's very rare that i stay till the last second of a video especially on a channel I've never watched before but my love of ragnarok drew me to cinema sins' video which lead me to yours and I am looking forward to doing a deep dive into all of your videos. Sub smashed and bell rang
Hey, I just wanted to say I just got turned on to and binged every video this channel has after watching the Cinema Wins episode and I have to say this is one of the only channels I subscribe to.
I love your fantastic analyses and your personal thoughts. I rewatch not only the movies you review but all movies with a different mindset thanks to you. The world is better with you in it and I personally am better having watched your content. Keep up the amazing work, Mikey.
Is the same designer of AJ's dune! I had the suspicion , but choose to live in wonder, till this video. It was the perfect time to be enlightened.
Nice channel!
came here from CinemaWins and also coz i loved Thor: Ragnarok
I just found your channel, I'm really liking your stuff. SUBSCRIBED
Love how you used the Rugrats theme song, also written by Mark Mothersbaugh, in the video :)
I agree, there aren’t any “bad” Mcu movies that I’ve seen yet.
Little known fact: Mark Mothersbaugh also did the music for Yo Gabba Gabba.
You're intro is everything and more!!!
big fan love your work and the attention to detail and the way you make this really fun for everybody to watch but not just that at the very end you always bring It full circle. can't wait to see what you do for Black Panther