The Team That Doesn't Shoot Mid-Range Jumpers
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In this video, we take a deep dive into Alabama and Nate Oats' offensive scheme. The Crimson Tide use "pace and space" to generate three-pointers and shots at the rim. - Sport
Last season: "The Team that doesn't dribble"
This season: "The Team that doesn't take mid range jumpers"
Next season: "The Team that doesn't lose?"
Hahahaha another great video Jordan!
The team that doesn't play defense.
Aka Run-and-gun could look at the old Layola Marymount teams who had success with it in the 80s
Next next season: "The Team that doesn't shoot."
@@radityapoerwanto7018 FT only lol
“The team that doesn’t play”
"The team that doesn't teams"
Oats, a previous math teacher, definitely loves his statistics and analytics. And look, thats what works in sports! How can we create the best possible odds to win? Love the video
Unless u have Michael Jordan then u can shoot tons of middys 😂
I had his brother as my math teacher
Jordan's game is obsolete in today's game.
@@ibashcommunists6847 No he’d hit middys like DeRozan, get to the rack and get fouled. Either he’d finish like Kyrie, make contact layups, or knockdown FTs bc he was a lethal free throw shooter. Also could pick off passing lanes like De’Aaron Fox and had huge hands like Kawhi. He could literally drop 30 a game today without a 3. He could do even more if he practiced the 3 more nowadays, but I’m not gonna get into hypotheticals. Slashers and sharpshooters are still relevant in today’s game idk whatchu talkin bout 🤣 plus he brings good defense to the table
@@jaboy8603 incorrect. He doesnt have the skillsets of kyrie. Doesnt have a euro, doesnt have a floater. Jordan in the 90s would struggle in today's game plus analytics would absolutely destroy jordan's game.
I went to UB when Nate Oats was still HC and was also there when he left for Alabama after agreeing to come back. At first I was so upset but I’m glad to see him get his recognition bc he was one of the best coaches in college basketball
Can’t blame him for leaving the Mac, the fan bases and athletic support is awful
Same, I knew when he left that was the end of successful UB basketball.
Another great video Jordan! Love how you pointed out the translation of Oats' philosophy on defense. Saw that Alabama forces opponents into taking 37% of their shots from midrange, which is a top 5 number in the country. Unreal how committed the Tide are to this style.
I was watching a pistons game the other day and Bojan was open for a mid range off an inbounds play and instead of shooting the deep middie immediately he took a dribble back to the three line.
You are THE place for college basketball on CZcams! I’d love for you to make some content on Xavier. They’ve got such a unique offense and are putting up crazy numbers this year.
Amazing video, the way you gave context, then explained the concept of the "no mid-range game" and the "Houston Spot" and then showed detailed examples gave this video great levels of entertainment and pacing. Nice job
This is an evolution from Vance Wahlberg's dribble drive attack motion offense. Nate Oats even uses the same terminology, huggers, gaps, points per possession efficiency.
I met Nate when I was covering a high school team (in Michigan). He was recruiting a player to Buffalo at the time. Got to watch a couple games alongside him in the stands. He's a great guy, class act, and I hope for the best for him.
Goated basketball channel
Hope we get some Marquette content soon! Consistently been in the top ~5 of the country in offense despite Shaka being known as a defensive guy, and they’re pretty unique offensively compared to the rest of CBB with the blend of talent they have.
He wan’t been a Defensive guy since VCU
@@jacobreddington2899 At Texas, his team's defensive efficiency was better than their offenses every year but the last one when they were basically tied.
@@ra2bk interesting, they didn’t seem that good on defense
they suck
Man amazing video. Very well done 👏🏼
Great video as always!
This is my fav channel on yt pls post more
Great video as usual! Need a video on Xavier
I love Hudl! great to see a Lincoln company doing well!!!
Great video. What this video indirectly demonstrated is how players like Lebron can drive to the rim and have plenty of options to get someone open if not attempt a fg close to the rim
Roll Tide. Been a Bama basketball fan since I was a little kid. So pumped they're back!
*rockytop intensifies*
roll tide
Great job as usual Jordan!
This was a great video!
Another awesome video! Although i love the nba videos, i think i love the ncaab videos a little more. A lot more teams and a lot more interesting styles
This is the first video I've watched by you and it was great. I am just curious if you slow your voice down before you post videos?
Jordan you make the best basketball videos out of everyone I’ve watched, thank you for that. Now that I know what I know I want to see Texas tech vs Alabama in the finals
Once you decide to play fast, the number of people that you decide to send to the rim will decide whether you get more in the primary or secondary break. With 1 or 2 players to the rim, you will have a better early offense. With 3 or more players to the rim, you will have a better fast break. If you just want max possessions in the game because you have an edge in points per shot then you should favor the secondary break. But if you want to maximize the PPS of those possessions, or you maybe have a rebounding edge, it's better to send more players to the rim.
In their drop coverage on screens they're leaving the pick & pop wide open so a team with a solid stretch big could get a lot of threes off against them. I'm curious how they would adjust to that. Awesome video man keep it up!
Hi hoop vision I love your videos I watch them all and aspire to be a high school coach one day I have wrote down various plays on pieces of paper a lot of them being plays I learned from you it would help a lot if we talked about how to successfully put a playbook together for highschool
Most exciting team in college basketball!
Would really love to see a breakdown of Rick Majerus' Saint Louis team defense.
Can you please do a UNC Tar Heels video with Hubert Davis? I’m a huge fan and want to see how my team runs their offense although I know we aren’t the best this year.
tbh it makes sense, the closer the basket the easier the make, ie. the easiest shot- shooting a mid range is only making it harder for you, at least with a 3 you get a extra point!
Great stuff…Any other channels with similar content ?
Funny because I’ve always been a huge Rockets and Alabama MBB fan. I must just innately hate mid range.
You hate the shot that wins championships?
this makes me really excited for today game against a great perimeter and interior D like Tennessee
Do you have a link for the pace of play/3pt graph you showed?
Nope, the first thing that came to my mind was Alabama. Because it was in the thumbnail
Sometimes the midrange is what the defense gives you and it becomes the easiest option.
Easiest ≠ best
@@derekyoungman3895 it’s about efficiency, when the defense close out the three and defends the rim the best shot is the midrange. To say we don’t shoot midrange anymore is same idiotic bs like saying we don’t shoot free throws anymore. To limit your options on offense is dumb, defenses can adjust easy to it especially in the playoffs.
@@ImadogGarcia nah you’d be surprised. Forcing a 3 is still usually better than an open middy
@@derekyoungman3895 i saw a statistic a couple of weeks ago that in college basketball alone , a “contested” 3 point jumper had a higher average fg% than an open deep midrange
Underrated comment my friend 💯. Passing up a good look mid range jumper (that isn't a deep mid range jumper) is often the better option than a contested three or passing up that look in order to create a perfect look three point shot, which will be hard to create versus good defensive teams 💯
Keep making videos consistently and you'll be big there isn't really anything exactly like this content extremely good and entertaining DO MORE
best part is these players come out NBA ready.
Could you please do a video on rutgers basketball. They have been playing very well this year
Such a great basketball channel!
Got a question for you. In your opinion would a team like Alabama be better off incorporating 2pt jumpshots late in close games where it’s often argued going for the extra point may be less beneficial because of how many fewer possessions are left in the game.
These late game situations tend to be less free flowing and defenses are a lot more alert. I’m curious to see how Bama fares in close games during March. Could be something they look to fix with their philosophy down the road.
I mean, until the last possession it's still good to get the most possible points per possession. There isn't that much less variance shooting a 2pt jumper (say 40% vs. 36%). So you're not really minimizing risk much. In a 1 point game with 10 seconds left? Sure. Take a mdrange jumper at the higher chance to make it. Although your team shooting and practicing taking 3s so often probably eliminates most of the difference in difficulty.
@@ra2bk All midrange shots aren't alike, nor are all 3 pointers. A wide open 10 foot shot in the hole in a defense that is focused on protecting the rim and guarding the 3 point line should be a 60% shot, which is 1.2 points per possession, which is equivalent to a 40% 3 point percentage, better than just about any college or NBA team is going to shoot on a sustained basis . It's certainly a better points per possession play that a small guard driving it all the way to the basket and trying to finish over a big defender. Alabama's smaller guards like Sears and Quinerly turn the ball over too much because they pass up a 10 foot floater to get their shot blocked at the rim, pick up a charging foul before they get to the rim, or commit a turnover because they get caught in the air and try to make a pass out to the 3 point line. An open 10 footer isn't the same thing as a contested 17 footer. Any theory can be taken too far. I think players should be working on the 10-15 foot shots in the middle of the defense and small guards should learn to shoot the 6 to 8 foot floater in space instead of driving all the way to the basket when there's a defender there.
@@Don-md6wn I agree not all midrange shots are alike and I was generalizing, but floaters are generally NOT good shots. National NCAA average on floaters was 35%. You really might as well take a 3 in that case. If you're wide open, sure, but you're rarely taking a wide open floater... otherwise you wouldn't be floating it at all (by definition a shot designed to arc over defense) and/or you'd just drive all the way to the rim if you had a clear path. Instead of floating, you could pull-up, which is better, but an off the dribble pull up midrange shot is again not a good shot. The act of pulling up off the dribble makes it much tougher. Attacking the rim adds the good chance of getting fouled, which is so efficient that it's worth a couple blocked shots as a tradeoff (you may make the shot if not blocked or recover the block oreb anyways). But again, this is all in theory and every single play is different. The best are able to process in real time what the best option is based on the positioning of the defense, etc.
This is the answer to the 2-3 zone for sure !
Brandon Miller is unbelievable!
Seeing this video makes me want to see an Alabama-Virginia game in the sweet 16, Tony Bennett might pull out some strategy to give these guys fits
I would love to see a video on this year's Rutgers team. Mainly your opinions on their team/play style. Analytics love them but I just don't get it. Regardless, appreciate your content!!!
I’m curious how much of Alabama’s Offensive Plays are the same or variations of the Golden State Warriors plays. Also curious if GSW is scouting these guys to see if these same guys can plug in quickly into Kerr’s system.
If you look at oats before bama when he was at buffalo it was the exact same way
Very interesting since Oats coached as an assistant at UW-Whitewater in division 3, which they take a high amount of mid range shots.
That must have been bad lol
He learned that the midrange wasn't working, so he adapted to the 3 pointer. That's what great coaches do, they adapt and make changes to their system. You get left behind if you can't make adjustments.
Best center in any era. He had it all.
With that being said #rolltide
Best team in the country this year
ROLL TIDE we #1 in the Country right now
So true about the floaters too.
Gonzaga basically beat Alabama because they hit every single floater. Normally that wouldn’t happen.
Facts they they weren’t missing I swear
And Timme was also doing well scoring under the basket which caused Bama to defend inside harder which gave them more room for the midrange. I was in the front row at that game and I swear they couldn't miss.
We won't lose another game.. Roll Tide
I'm an Alabama and love the job Oats is doing there, but you can go too far in any philosophy. Alabama struggles with turnovers at times, and a lot of that is because guards who are too small to finish in traffic turn the ball over via charges or passes where the defense knows they can't finish and play the passing lanes. I think this only 3 pointers, shots around the basket and free throws philosophy can be overdone and leave big holes in the midrange that smart teams and players learn how to exploit. Alabama struggled against Tennessee this week because Tennessee played physical, defended at the rim and guarded the 3 point line. Kentucky beat Tennessee yesterday with 2 point shots while only attempting 8 threes. I think small guards need to learn how to shoot floaters or pull up 10 footers instead of driving into the teeth of the defense. Alabama is capable of doing this. They didn't come from behind on the road to beat Houston by jacking up 3's, they got physical and beat Houston at their own game.
Oats is from the Midwest?
WE WERE KINGS ONCE!!!!!😭😭😭😭😭 Bama needs to learn from us.
Roll Tide.
Roll tide
Great Video! disliked for showing Davion getting stuffed. jkjk
the removal of handchecking and the constant use of moving screens has made basketball a painfully boring succession of chucks and dunks...they need to scrap the three point line to get real ball back...in my opinion, though it seems somewhat counterintuitive, such a change would make great shooting even more valuable as teams will pack the paint without fear of being hurt by a shot worth a full 50% more.
and now shooters are so good they dont need to get into the packed paint to shoot undefended consistently soooo it would still be "boring"
@@ygkemosabi8280 actually no, because when teams come out to defend them, they will need to try to go by them rather than shoot contested 25 footers...no line would benefit the most creative players with moves to score against straight-up defense instead of just watching guys straight line drive against frantic close-outs...
@@gabrielantonio3418 from "pack the paint" to "go out and defend all 5 guys" because everyone in the league can shoot now is quite the contradiction...
I hope break down Tennessee three point defense this season，they are better than any team in country
there is no short roll ,yeah I like it
They play like an NBA team, switching ball screens, playing drop coverage, spread pick and roll... The whole thing
5:35 that’s just incredibly poor off ball defense by #4, there’s no reason for him to get that far off his man. The center is there specifically for on-ball help on the PnR and even if he loses his man on a roll, there’s help specifically there on the low post to help defend the rim.
Just goes to show how one person can ruin an entire defensive set.
I’d like to see how this would work out against a big 12 team, oh wait
Check out the Florida Gulf Coast Women's basketball team. They are the true catalyst of a no midrange team!
No, this team is. Watch the video
I wish Alabama would hire their head coach. Our women's team is meh.
Live by the three, die by the three.
Nate Oats should coach in the NBA.
of the rockets maybe....
Gotta be the hawks
this 2k rec offense
How much longer until there actually is a 4-point line?
I wonder, great question
It completely change the game
I hope not
Really
If u could only play 🏀
Sheesh
Alabama actually uses the rockets playbook
I wish NCAA basketball had different championships like football
Teams that don't shoot midrange jumpers are predictable. You look in the NBA and those teams never win championships. Meanwhile, teams with an elite midrange scorer usually win...
It's not about efficiency as much as it is about unpredictability. You can take away the three by positioning defenders on that spot. You can't take away the midrange because it's.... everywhere.
If teams don't know where you're going to pull up from, it's really really hard to guard them.
I mean college 3s are NBA long 2s.
No teams shoot them anymore and it's made basketball almost unwatchable. The Warriors have ruined basketball. Watching teams chuck up 80-100 3 pointers per game is just trash basketball but that's what everybody is doing now. 2 of the top 5 greatest players in history (Jordan and Kobe) were the greatest midrange shooters in history and they made a living on those shots. They were incredible to watch and there was such a wide variety of shots they took that it was incredible to see.
@@breadandcircuses8127 yawn trolll
@@breadandcircuses8127 Michael Jordan was posting efficiency numbers on par with Shaq during his prime lol. 58.0% true shooting in Chicago compared to the 53.6% league average. People lie; numbers don’t lol.
Roll Tide
Not really a fan, only because I can see a cold steak put you behind and with everyone spreading the perimeter the rebounds should be almost guaranteed for the defense. Nothing worse sometimes than trying to catch up with early possession 3's
Like the OU game January 28 (ALA 66 OU93). Turnovers and rebounds were equal. FG% ALA 37.9 OU 57.6. 3PT% ALA 27.3 (6-22) OU 69.2 (9-13) [9 fewer and 3 more].
In the loss to UCONN, there was a period where ALA had 1pt in almost 5 minutes to UCONNs 12 (14 pt lead with 4:06 remaining and lost by 15)
most rebounds end up being long rebounds though when you shoot 3s, alabama is actually number 15 in offensive rebounding this year
@@ThomasMichaud If any teams runs into somebody that shoots 58% from the field and 69% from 3, more than likely they will lose, regardless of the style of play. The key to running this style of offense is defending at a high level to be able to weather an off shooting night. If you don't defend, then yes, you can and likely will lose. 2020-2021 Alabama defended at very high level and won the regular season and conference tournament and entered as a 2 seed in March. 2021-2022 Alabama did not defend at a high level and limped in as a 6 seed and trending down. We all see what this year's team looks like. Alabama will typically score points, so their long term prospects will depend on defense. When it is all clicking, it is the most exciting brand of basketball in the country and I don't think it is all that close.
normally, yes. but alabamas defense is so elite that even when theyre on a cold streak they never really get blown out. (with a couple of exceptions) oats has been running this system for the last 3 years. 2 years ago bama also had an elite defense and this system worked to perfection. last year, their defense was average and they were not nearly as good. this system basically relies on a good defense. when they have it (such as this year) bama is a team that is difficult to beat when their shooting is average, and impossible to beat when they are shooting well
well now i know who i wont cheer for this season
At this point, 3s need to be worth 2.5 points
Purposeless ball movement, blasphemy.
A trailing Center or trailing Power Forward behind the ball in Transition Offense is a must.
Embrace the extra pass concept after the 1st pass is made.
Nah bruh I gotta shoot my mid-range
Long 2s does not mean midrange
Sweet 16 exit
Gonzaga may have beat Alabama but at least the basketball team isnt scared of playing good teams like way the Hiding tide football team hides from teams like Boise State playing boring games against West Carolina, New Mexico St. and Chattanooga multiple times. Maybe someday Saban will be brave like Oats is.
Too much 2k
bro sounds like nbagoober
Great video but how much success is this actually giving them 🤔
That Rockets was a disgraceful team, it represents well the "modern" NBA
Still got beat by Gonzaga
Only 3 losses with that murderous schedule. Would beat Gonzaga 7/10. Time for you to play Pacific Beach State.
@@morehamsandwich we already did, how many sweet sixteens have you been to?
Going to be interesting to see how the Hogs play against Alabama on February 25th, 2023 in Tuscaloosa with Nick Smith Jr. back… he could go for 30 because his mid-range/floater game is impeccable.
Man what are you talking about lol? we beat y'all by 15 at y'all's place in January. We play y'all again in Tuscaloosa on FEB 25. you got your dates n crap all wrong
Arkansas just lost at home to Mississippi St and that guy looked terrible haha. Bama has bigger goals than you.
I didn’t say that Arkansas would win… I just said it’ll be interesting to watch. Relax fellas. Bama is the best team in the SEC this year so far and that’s not up for debate!
Man don't listen to these fools. I hope Alabama wins, but Arkansas won't be the team we saw in Bud Walton is Nick Smith Jr plays. Alabama-Arkansas will be close per usual. Musselman and Oats is a really good coaching matchup. Arkansas is dangerous as always. If Nick Smith Jr is back, Alabama's going to have their hands full underneath.
this is horrible for the game of basketball moving forward. the pod boyz are jizzing in their pants over this
boring ball!!!!!
Ha. You must like those 45 point Stone Age games.
@@morehamsandwich I did grow up watching 80's & 90's NBA and I'm glad I did.
get rid of 3 pointer and everything naturally normalizes. artificially giving +50% reward for long shots is not even logical. watching players heave 25 foot shots when there is an open lane is not entertaining to me.
I dont think you can get rid of 3 point shots
How a about we play post offense
@@jmgonzales7701 it's only worth 2/3 value.
@@jmgonzales7701 sure it can be done but very unlikely of course. i'm old enough to remember hoops before the 3pter. it was better. today's shooters have gotten a lot better than than the hoops gods ever anticipated. maybe a 4 pter is coming.
@@t.balognavich221 i mean what would be the incentive to remove 3 pt shots? as a player of football (both) i do enjoy lower scoring games more and i do think our scoring is very inflated but i doubt we can remove the 3 point line.
The greatest players in history dominated the mid range.
Why are you yelling every word?
Lol this will produce trash players for sure.
No iso, no post up, no mid range, only 3nD wings and spread 4/5 that cannot dribble 🤣🤣🤣
That won't work in the NBA playoffs.
Whatever you call it, its ugly
He’s in the final 4 right now