Important QSS + Mordekaiser Change
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UPDATE: Just a day after this video Riot changed Mordekaiser R again - impacting Olaf, Gangplank, Rengar and more!
Here is the video of current Mordekaiser R: czcams.com/video/gIkjInnqTCM/video.html
So can Milio get out of his ult? What about Morg's or Sivir's shield? Do they block his ult?
spell shields are different than cleanses, im sure they work.
as for milio, i dint get why the annoying twink gets to keep the abillity to get out, very inconsistent@@lissandrafreljord7913
ı did not readd this part
Nah brazil economy from tourism is gonna go up after this
WHERE DO BE MY THIRD WORLD COUNTRY GANG 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hopefully, we need it
Come to Brazil.
Please?
brazil mentioned!
Finally we dont have to pay 1300 for qss since it does not work
Instead you will pay mord a 300 tax every time you face him
Might as well remove it now
Finally i can spam Malzahar in every game.
@@bar-elch7809true, this component (and items built from it) is completely useless
@@SkinShowcase-zm3rs You still can remove Malz R with QSS, this is just for morde
Gangplank and Olaf is just straight up goofy. GP ate an orange to teleport out of Morde's dimension meanwhile Olaf is just too angry for that kinda shi lmao
I mean olaff's makes sense
Man is too angry to die so he doesnt go to the afterlife
@@averonisgaming9023 too angry to die is Trynd not Olaf
that’s like the whole point of GPs W tho, it’s one of like 8 abilities that remove **all** crowd control
And Milio is having a piñata party
And Rengar just yells 😄
fuckin' oranges, i swear man.
always removin scurvy
mandarines*
...and the realm of... the... dead?
@@malicousmaltourner2842well it removes cc and last time I checked being dead is a hard cc
@@malicousmaltourner2842 I mean Gangplank cheated death in the canon, so this is just accurate
@@Froot2115 nah they blood oranges
1:14 "Through the darkened gay-"
when morde kills k'sante
@@deesnutts2611 NAHHHHHH
@@deesnutts2611LAMOOOOOOOOOOOO
Cherish the lesbians
@@KienNguyen-yf9kpI thought I was the only one who says this 💀💀
An orange a day keeps the Mordekaiser away
A ban each game keeps the pirate at bay
@@xaedris is he even strong those days?
@@_garicas not that much but getting ulted when i was recalling since i was low hp or destroying the huge wave i stacked is annoying asf
Well it doesnt all u need is slow and more dmg andyou are dead. Anyone who ganks you will get the ult instead :)
HA! A good one 😆🍊
Wait did they remove the only reason I got QSS? No way...
Hold this L and -10% stats
@@SageSylvie HAHAHAHAHAHAH
In the old times it removed zed and fizz ult lol
*the 2nd reason
first one and the only reason why you would want QSS: malzahar
the ONLY THING that cleanse cant cleanse
@@pikachubailarin Warwick and Skarner now feel left out.
Tahm as well.
Nah, it still amazes me how eating an orange can help you escape from brazil. ¡The power of vitamin C! xd
Lore wise makes sense, Brazil exports a lot of orange.
@@raphaelmerino100 Not just alot, it's the world's largest orange exporter, $2.57 billion a year at that.
this amazes you?
lets say he do have magical oranges... how he in a stun, how he can still move his hand, grab an orange and eat it?!
A petition to rename Gangplanks W to Jack Sparrow? :D
Latinamerican spotted, opinion dissaproved
imagine adc faces after this on live
Already a broken role everyone hates anyways
They don't qss Morde ult anyways 😂
adcs beat morde in his ult
@atsukana1704 lol keep lying to yourself as you sleep
@@atsukana1704legit the worst role 1 patch ago what do u mean
A blessed cloth cannot free you from the shackles of the death realm any longer- but:
- A child's cheer
- The scream of a man
- An orange
can free you.
The roar of a lion
God forbid there’s counterplay
New morde skin incoming must sell products
Morde: *BEHOLD REALM OF DEATH!*
GP: Behold.... ORANGE!
Morde: The fuc...
Morde : *fails to ult Ornn
Also Morde : *WELCOME*
Manners above all
Riot on their way to nerf one of the most underused items ever.
I wish they did the opposite by making it so QSS not only removes CC but also DOTS and Marks. That would lead to way more skill expression while having a heavy downside.
@@skeley6776 We had that in the past and it wasn't good.
Why?
Because it countered some champs way to hard (Trundle) and was often bought, when it was really useless (Zed, as he would easily win if you spent 1300 gold on MR). Not only did this frustrate the players it was bought against but it also frustrated the people that did buy it because they were forced to pay this "QSS tax".
It also lead to some very janky interactions with knockups and champions canceling their own debuffs, etc.
So, while it would add skill expression, it would also introduce a lot of frustrating mechanics while making the game buggier overall.
Gonna be really fun to see Mord data (P/B and winrate) after this patch.
Probably gonna increase by a lot since a lot of people will try him, and generally he is a very easy champion.
@@raphaelmerino100you act as if mord won't get insta oneshot by a xayah using e, and kited to hell and back by a varus with r or vayne.
If his wr goes up by any % it will probably be in low elo where this still happens with the interaction existing.
@@raphaelmerino100mordes problem isn't just his ult lol it's his entire kit that's shit which makes sense since he's supposed to be noob stomper
Did you check Warwick Q? When in dashing animation, Warwick can't be displaced, this works on Morde ult on live
It’s any unstoppable ability so stuff like ww q illaoi ult galio ult and some others can’t be death realmed
remember kids always carry an orange in your pocket so you can escape morde's shadow realm of infinite death
There is only a little escape from Mordekaiser!
🍊
About damn time they did this
these fucking oranges are stronger than a 3200 gold item
So qss won’t work, but abilities that act like qss still will? How does that make sense?
until this day,that orange is still a myth
Nah, this was the only way to deal with it as an ADC. Fuck that.
Wow, because this champion totally needed this kind of buff, yaaaay.
great change
Mordes ult needs to be designed like Camilles ult. No one can escape her ult and yet all she does is box you up like fuckin fortnite. Morde is literally taking you to a different dimension.
An ability that sends you to another dimension should just straight up be immune to cleanses/unstoppables of any kind its not a displacement so it wont screw with too many ults and olaf still gets to be immune to E with the stats
Also fuck gp eating orange in general.
The problem is from a design perspective, for Camille's case, allies can still help her target. They can even put Camille out of her R if they have adequate tools (Lee Sin R, Janna R, etc)
For Mordekaiser, it's either Morde or his target die, or the battle drags longer than the duration. But during this time the target is on their own.
If they made it completely unavoidable by any means, then Riot would have to nerf it, either by reducing the duration at early ranks or by increasing the CD, or reducing thr stats stolen.
@@xaedris its cc no matter what way you spin it, cope
@@arminarlelt7471 might as well just rework him again then morde r feels weak and im not even going to bother explaining to randoms why play him in anything above gold and find out yourself
Also what am i coping about? Riot doesnt fix champions they break them
@@xaedris His current design is good, though I do agree they should stop completely removing the concept of a champion when reworking.
Volibear, Fiddlesticks, Warwick, Pantheon, Irelia are perfect reworks. Nothing is lost (at least in some way) and they have a diverse gameplay while still feeling like you're playing the same champion.
Aatrox and Mordekaiser were completely changed and I don't like it. The final designs are good on their own, and if they were new champions there would be no problem.
And it's not like old Sion, or old Poppy where their kits didn't make sense at all and really needed a complete change.
They should have kept Aatrox being an auto attacker, maybe more oriented to abilities like Irelia for example.
As for Morde, if I were the one to rework him, I would have made him be a jungler that "zombify" jungle monsters as his passive, basically his old R would just simply be a passive. The basic abilities would roughly be the same except modernized, and the R something completely new that would change effect based on which monster is with you currently.
But hey, let's not complain at least Skarner rework is good!
Oh my god i want this on servers live NOW
OH WE ON BABY, WE ON NOW.
no plss !!!, i need to get out there place 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Press F to pay respects ADC...
damn it wont be fun, morde winrate will get higher XD
@@Franklin0602 or his ban rate is going to get higher lol
@@_garicas illaoi is finally getting allowed back into my games after this lol
Very good and clean job you answered all my questions without unnecessary youtube intro etc
deserve like and sup
Btw sivir spell shield, if casted during the initial animation before ur in the realm will also counter morde ult
Officially 0 counter play buy crystal cepter and stat check
"0 counterplay"
CC, Dashes, get away from his passive and % health or play any of the champs shown in the vid lol
@@NotLW7SH you mean not interact with mord is the counter play?
@@NotLW7SH so now my adc need to transform in gankplank
@@KiIIerQueenboomkinda yes, it's called kiting
@@KiIIerQueenboom if kiting is not interacting then idk what game you're playing
Okay but then at the very least give the 10% reduced stats back, what is the point of the item even except for Malz now?
That's pretty much it. Malz, warwick, skarner, sett R, yasuo (cancels knockup = cant ult). Always was.
But also some games you just need Qss anyway. You basically take it in places where you'd want cleanse, or more than one cleanse if you take summoner too.
it also seems to happen on new skarner r. if you do it like how you did with ornn w. just happened to me on OFA
I guess this is the same as Zed R where they can nerf the ult now
Morde mains be wildin' this patch
what about rengar passive w?
probly can escape too
Mordekaiser R now counts only as an spell, not a "debuff", meaning only way to dodge his ult is through spell shields you get either from items or from abilities (e.g. Fiora W, Sivir E)
@@narkotri1er716 yup now nobody can escape brazil. Once you are in you cant go out there is no way anymore.
rip QSS it been 200 years, we finally commit
There is a moment of the animation when morde ults that gets canceled if illaoi ults(not the oposite)
I don't think there's a singular reason to ever get QSS/Mercurial ever again now. Cleanse I feel like is a much better summoner spell than wasting an item slot on an already needy class like ADC. The only other champ that you would buy this into is Malzahar. Pretty much it.
You've apparently not often had the displeasure of facing Malzahar with something squishy that has to dive into the enemy team.
Experiencing that is a very good argument to buy QSS.
@@lubue5795 literally said you would buy it into Malz.
@@blackice8634 but before that you said there would be no reason to ever get it 🤷♂
Can you guys not read? He said the only other champ you would buy it for is malzahar, which means it’s something you would still buy for that matchup.
Mordekaiser es numero uno!
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@@aureliontroll2341 calma irmao. vc e god
@@aureliontroll2341 tu n conhece o meme...
gib mony please, i report u
cant help but always chuckle when I see gp eat an orange during morde ult
1:15 "THROUGH THE DARKENED GAY" 🗣🗣🔊🔊🔥🔥💯💯
Forgot about Alistar' s R
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Rengar meowing quietly in the back...
Im honestly surprised that the QSS doesn't remove the stat steal debuff either.
Should try with Rengar as well. Ferocity Battle Roar can break out of Morde R before this change. Be interesting if it still can.
All of the cleansing abilities work
If timed right you can cancel Morde's R with Warwick's Q, thats kinda the reason y mained it
Same with Illaoi R
Same with Sett R
Warwick Q does have CC immunity but honestly? I used to play the champ to chase after Flashes, it's so fucking fun.
I also love Zoe matchups since she's mobile enough to take me across an entire lane lol
Any unstoppable/cc immune does this
MORDE IS BACK ON MENU BOYS!!!
Ah nice, the old 7second stun tank morde setup is gonna actually work now lol
I hope they make the same change with champion abilities. So many champs can just dodge Morde ult for no reason like Viego, Kled, Illaoi, Ornn, K'sante, Olaf, Milio, Rengar, Sion, Alistar, Gangplank... etc
As we saw with some examples in the video, that will probably not be the case.
And that's also good in my opinion as counterpicks are something valuable that shouldn't get taken away. If Morde is allowed to counter certain champs because of his ult, others should be allowed to counter him as well. Furthermore, for most champs it's a skill check as they have to time their ability to escape getting sucked in, but can't escape once they're in the death realm.
i think being able to dodge a point and click 'i win' button is good, acrually
@@lubue5795 Yeah I feel like there's a range of difference for Champs like Illaoi, Sion, Kled, who has to time their ults perfectly or else they're completly fucked, to Olaf or Milio who have to use their ults but don't have to time it frame-perfectly , to Ornns and Gangplanks who have it on a basic ability.
Oh no, poor mordekaiser, there is champions that he can't STRAIGHT OUT STAT CHECK. "How sad!" ... 😂
@@shulamitwhatsittoya6550 ok then allow ult to phase thru yasuo wall and samira W, its only fair
Inn my humble opinion:
Milio and Olaf make sense
an R for an R? fair exchange
GP and Ornn though? that should be illegal
Ornn shouldnt use the unstoppable effect
it should be changed to work like Irelia's W
where he is still susceptible to CCs but the ability continues nonetheless
GP makes sense. It call power budget. GP ult is bad in 1v1. If you nerf gp orange then you must buff ult or rework it.
@@biggdogg33 it aint fair a 10s skill counters a minute cd ult [edit] in which ult IS on itself a condition (requiring to kill the opponent to be used to its full potential)
GP can simply get QSS change where it still works with any other CC except Mord's ult.
this still leads to an issue with WW, Malz and Skarner but
well, I dont see much solution to those sadly.
Except Ornn IS susceptible to MOST forms of CC. He's just displacement immune during his W which only accounts for knocks and things like Morde R. It's the same for other abilities like WW Q.
@@amethonys2798 I still stand by it being changed to work like Irelia's W either way
@@blazingkite8983 by ur logic we shouls make ults ignore yasuo walls and samira w, and thats just stupid. GP is SUPPOSED to remove CC, and if it doesnt the one thing its supposed to do then the ability should rightfully be considered flawed and inconsistent
any champs that have unstoppable as part of their movement abilities will also stop morde ult (more below)
they are:
-warwick q
-malphite ult
-volibear ult
-empowered udyr e
(i am sure there's more but there's a few)
warwick q (held) can dodge mord ult too btw :3
I think this is gonna go the same way zed ulti went, they removed qss interaction from Mordekaizer R and people will start buying mr against him
Qss gives mr mate
@@LordDuckington603 I believe what they are referring to is that before QSS change with zed ulti, people weren't buying armour to counter him which meant they would still lose. So rather than JUST buy QSS, people will actually build the mr needed (beyond what QSS gave as less stats) to be able to fight him
@@willzombieking8100he is gonna steal your mr too bro. Its not gonna work. Unlike zed, you can’t punish him when he ults.
@@willzombieking8100 That's pointless. Morde already wrecks tanks. Building defensively for a 1v1 with Morde isn't a winning battle.
@@tonysmith9905 its not about winning, more about surviving I would say.
That's kinda sht that the ONLY removed the interaction from qss....
It should've been changed for gangplank at least since that's not even an ultimate ability....
And unstoppable effects like Illaoi R, Ornn W should just refund the cd to like 20 seconds instead if the ultimate fails (Cooldown starts when Morde's death realm ends)
gp orange still work, im happy
Empowered rengar w is a cleanse as well FYI. You missed his interaction. But seeing every champion one worked its safe to assume his too.
Pretty sure if they are doing qss, they are probably gonna do the champion abilities as well. His ult is not hard cc, it shouldn’t be cleansable. Maybe the stat debuff can be cleansed but not the death realm itself
It doesn't need to be hard cc when you can not kite morde because of rylai's.
@@herpderp66 Rylais are only slow. They are not root.
Any champion with dashes can still kite him equally well.
And yes, if a champion invests an entire item slot to be harder to escape from, others should not be able to just “kite” him.
The whole idea of that realm is that you fight 1v1, and stronger character (stat wise) wins.
@@kingol4801 its basically perma slow
@@another_turtle Yes?
30% perma slow.
People have been kiting Nasus with 99% slow for years now. But oh god no, 30% slow is too much.
What a joke
@@kingol4801nasus slow can be cleansed and isn’t permanent dumbo
Warwick Q hold as well avoids Mordecaiser's ult
wtf why?
@@Craftee6 It makes him CC immune during a part of animation
@@kingol4801not cc immune, displacement immune. You can't Q through veigar cage, for example
@@MilanovskyGeorge i really dont like the fact that it doesnt have an indication for it.
Likw the way i learned that it does that was by going up against a ww as sion only for him to keep ignoring my Q's while i sit in confusion
@@Craftee6 its about warwick scaping displacements when hugging enemies with Q. I guess morde's ult takes you somewhere else, which is somehow a displacement.
I might be wrong about the reasoning here but it does work(at least before this patch)
Not even the metal god of death can stop bromacia!
this is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen \[T]/
Removing qss cleanse on his ult seems like a really bad choice tbh. Sure, everybody can buy qss so his ult becomes practically useless over time since everyone can cleanse it. But if you remove this then his ult becomes one of the most op ults in the entire game thanks to carry/adc (I mean pretty much anyone core in a teamfight) capturing potential with only counter to this being Millio (or being any of the champs in the video ofc).
It was slowing down the economy of adcs anyways, if the mord is such a threat that an adc has to interupt their build path just to itemize against a single ability you have already got the value out of your ult even if they cleanse it.....
There are quite a few champions that have a cleanse or access to unstoppable in one way or another. This does indeed significantly boost the power of Mordekaiser's ultimate, but it is also his entire purpose. He exists to press R on the ADC or fed midlaner or whatever. Instead of 1300 gold denying a champion their ENTIRE purpose, lets just make it so QSS does not work on Morde ult, and if he is really all that broken, just tune him down afterwards. Balance around numbers, not jank and unfun solutions.
@@Gelert_not to mention the stats
But that applies to many ults and other spells.
Camile ult captures the ADC and throws the rest of his team away. Jarvan captures ADC if they have no dash. Nauti or Vi ult are also guranteed and undodable CC.
Fair, Morde does arguably have stronger "CC" than those champs, but he also has far less mobility and if he can't kill you in the death realm, because he's behind, then his ult is far worse.
So, I don't think it's as bad or OP as you think.
@@lubue5795 i have said it before and i will say it again. NAUT R IS BULLSHITE, god i hate it
gangplank never disappoint me being the single most op champ this game ever seen
Rejoice with our Lord!
An orange a day keeps the death realm away!
Was rejoicing until I saw that gangplank still works. Curse you gangplank!
Stolen is better than earned!
finally, we, the morde mains, waited so long... no one is gonna stop us now
no one except a man with an orange
You guys are bad enough even with this upgrade
*bans morde* Problem solved
lets be honest, who except adcs and maybe yi (i build it against malz 95% of times and almost never against mord because yi bets him anyway)
Brasil vs orange
ADC's are gonna love this one
BIG BIG BIG
Not a chance in hell that comes to live servers lol
Why not?
We had QSS remove Zed ult, Fizz ult, Trundle ult, etc. in the past and that was removed as well.
@@lubue5795 And neither of those remove you from the battlefield entirely (unless you get one shot), and have other methods to be played around (zhonya).
I'm all for the change since I'll play morde again with it, but QSS still made sense at working for his. The fact you can run up to whoever is the one carrying the enemy team and just remove them from the fight so your team can dominate the fight is absolutely absurd.
Tank too good at peeling? Ult it.
Hyper carry able to shred your whole team? Ult it.
Illoai just ult your whole team? Ult it.
It's one of the few ults That is absolutely game breaking if you use it correctly, because it pretty much guarantees a win so long as you aren't significantly team diffed.
@@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken If a Zed or Fizz oneshot you, you're very much removed from the battlefield.
Also, you can Zhonyas the morde ult, if you have the reaction speed.
Furthermore, the Morde removes himself from the teamfight as well, so if he ults the wrong target, it turns into an equally big disadvantage for his team. Additionally, if he loses the 1vs1 in the death realm, then there suddenly will be an enemy in his teams backline as well.
Last but not least, Morde has little mobility and the ult has a low cast range, so it's entirely possible to kite and CC him so he can't get his ult off.
Not to mention that there are a good number of champions who can still cleanse his ult and thus hard counter him.
@@lubue5795 Exactly. People really dislike forced duels it seems
@@lubue5795 I see you need to learn how to do some reading considering I stated "unless you get one shot".
Each skill mentioned were ones that apply after x amount of time, in which you can counter the damage by using Zhonya. If you're in the realm of Morde, Doing zhonya doesn't cover the duration of the ult.
Once again you mention something irrelevant. I'm not talking about bad players who ult the wrong person.
An enemy coming back to the field doesn't mean anything if you picked the right person. You not being able to beat them doesn't matter so long as it's a key person that allow your team to win. Your team will have stomped the enemy, and be able to take care of that person.
You're either not a Morde player, or REALLY have no idea what you're talking about.
I love Morde, and I'm all for him getting a buff as it means I'll put him into my rotation again instead of being a pocket pick, I'm simply saying this one isn't it as an overall change.
I'd rather they make the CD longer on the items so it can be punished.
said "counters" mean little, because any halfway decent Morde will just not ult those people because of it.
TBH the ultimate fix would be to just change his ult. They removed Poppy's old ult because of how oppressive it was, yet they don't remove Morde's which is nearly as strong, if not stronger seeing as it's hard to run from him.
Honestly, this should never have been an interaction
but Morde R should also not have been created in the first place so I'm unsure what to think about it.
Why?
Morde R is a very good ability concept
@@kingol4801 I don't think "click on an enemy and cause their near-certain demise" is a particularly engaging ability personally. I suppose in a way this change makes the ability better, as in it's only frustrating for the target, not both the target and user simultaneously.
@@Renegative Then remove Camille R, Veigar R, all of Annie's abilities, Rengar R, Akali kit, Qiyana kit, etc etc. If you don't want to be ulted by Morde, don't put yourself in a position to be ulted. It's literally that simple.
@@M0nlyfans Ah, sorry, I commented on a League of Legends video. My bad.
@@M0nlyfansQiyana’s “lock-on” EQ/ER legit forces her to miss a lot of the time
None can escape me (except gangplank)
this is a dumb change in my opinion lets remove the only counter to a forced cage fight where he steals your stats
after reading the coments
yes i know about all of that thats why is said in my oppinion also i jsut dislike playing against morde in his ult (prob cause im shit)
thats why its a opinion your welcome to disagree ^-^
i jsut want to play and chill and not get forced to fight someone that steals 10% of all my stats and has a prety good shield so i cant burst him
wtf do you mean "only" counter? this video shows you theres more than 1 way to counter it that isnt QSS
The video literally shows you a Lot of counters. Plus, Morde's damage abilities are all skillshots. Even inside the deathrealm, you can Dodge all of them. His passive no longer has the Power to kill by itself (low dmg after the nerfs and his attack speed is also too slow)
Actually this should be the norm. Name me one champion that targets one enemy only which can be cancelled as easily as Morde R. Now add to that morde is a MELEE champ which doesn't have a single dash, has to proc 3 hits to get a small speed buff, has no cc beside his pull which has a long animation. And you want an item to counter him? Imagine there is an item that counters each champion in the game. Why not make an item that blocks R for all champions? Yeah?
@@Joao-jx1lo cant really dodge the perma slow from rylai's
@@IceedPro WTF? He needs to land a Spell in Order to apply his slow. If he misses his E, its 14 seconds cd; he misses Q, its 4 seconds cd on level 5 (more than half his ultimate).
In short, If you Dodge 3 spells he is Dead.
Plus, If youre a Champion that dashes or can throw him away (like tristanas 'R), than he' REALLY Dead.
now they need to make it so when morde ults yorick his maiden and ghouls come with him
so it will be in the Knock back catagory
hold my oranges
Now you cant escape from Brazil 🤫🤫
This sets up for Morde to be played at MSI, I think
Better ❤
0:46 I thought he was going to write "get candy"... Force of habit I guess
This really makes no sense my brain ain't brainin
You know what fair, though qss is becoming even more rare nowadays. It would be nice if they rethought the item and came up with a different approach that still solved the problem of being super stunned, perhaps just buffing the support version of the item to feel more impactful or have more skill expression.
finally, as it should've always been
though i hope it was immune to every cleansing effect
Makes sense. It's one thing for a few champ abilities to counter it, it's a.nother for every champion to be able with an item.
sounds resonable untill they nerfed all anyheal kits as well from champions or completely remove them miss fortune Tristana for examples varus used to be 60% I belive now it's so uncommon that people forget that used to be part of champions kit before it was puted on item ...
@@xzorgo2453its a pretty frustrating mechanic to play against. No counterplay too. Kinda like how riot removed almost every single Silence in the game
@tranducquang5912 on one hand yes on the other hand it's was meant to be used as tool for like champions like mundo and atrox (old one) I mean look now most healing effects now heal base on missing hp too 40% healing reduction to just even fields is kinda a must for most champions who have those kind of healing effects you either run ignite or waste gold and slot for antyheal (or had champion with antyheal in kit in past) heck try to win laning phase(1-8levels) agnist vlad who plays properly with out ignite is almost impossible same goes with darius on melee range (unless you want to give him free bleed stacks witch in turn gives him ad)
@@xzorgo2453 vlad problem in the late game is not his healing, its his dmg. You can counter most omnivamp champions by bursting them. Darius all you have to do is kite him. If you can’t, its mostly on you. You don’t see alot of omnivamp champions on high elo mostly cause of that. The viables one are aatrox(dude builds lethality and just gonna 1 shot you before your anti heal does anything) or zac(his healing is annoying but its mostly his engage that is OP)
fair point if you rly can out kite darius in melee range when he runs ghoust instead of ignite which is stronger in my opinion bursting champions well fair idea but it was not really possible to burst mage before they adjusted items (giving less hp in item for more ap on them) I mean Vladimir might be bad example here because he does scale hp pull with ap sure other players who didn't learned how to play properly agnist vlad feels much more unfair compare to darius might also the fact that zhonia does still exist as well I don't think I mention having issue with latter stage of game ofc healing is issue for those champs if they are too ahead on gold because they can outheal burst etc but what it all comes to is early game/laning phase if you deny 300 gold you can delay power spike for enemy which is what makes you building lead etc I am not saying darius is problem but rather is the fact that if you play immobile champ with almost no mobility or none at all you need that antyheal for those kind of guys even if they gona heal like 20% of their max hp with one basic ablity even after antyheal applice and than use gordrinker too in my honest opinion there is just too much stacking healing options like goredrinker into sundered sky like antyheal does not feel like it takes effect enough to make diffrence because of of so much healing [aspecialy when you have kit already in champ] good example would be illaoi with her ult and tentacles ofc you should never fight her when she ults but even before level 6 you kinda have to have antheal(ingnate) if you legitimately want to fight her all in like it kinda restrains your summoner spell choices too (it quite stangnat even though we have 10+ smite summoners spells) my issue with those guys who heal so much is that the gameplay vs them is boring because you have fewer option A wait for your power spike B wait for jungler gank C pray to god that summoner does not know how to play that champ properly fully other options will get you behind either gold or expirence D play safe . And let's be fair here nobody wants to play boring ass lane of 12 min doing nothing because enemy champ just can't be deal with your champ or your current skills [also does not help the fact that community is quite toxic ] and before 12 min of that you have like soild 6-7 min of match making select( with doges or just simply potato connection in 1/10 players ) Don't get me wrong I would pick darius over Vladimir and time of the the compression of frustration in laning face feel so much diffrent like you lost to darius sure but does not heal after you fight him so jungler might punish him if gets greedy meanwhile Vladimir full heal with 4 qs ... feels so much worse not to mention low cd on and point click compare to darius q yes it can heal more if hit more people but does not really do much in the lineing phase unless you 2vs1 him with jungler . the idea of bursting would require to out trade in lane so you can do your one shot . overall the feeling after death and seeing champ to full heal with your death timer feels very much shity and unjust good example in past was old fidel sticks W when it was point click heal to full channel yes could be interapted with displacement/cc/silence but if you were like trundle and used your pillar witch I belive has like 30s cd rank 1 while fidel w had like 10 s cd felt like nothing could be done other than farm and wait and wait for who know the jungler might come might not at all
it'll be like nothing changed seeing as my teammates never take qss anyways
I dodged it with a warwick Q the other day by accident lol.
Logic of Riot Games:
If you get teleported into the death realm, eat orange!
Oh my god, that's fucking HUGE
I think it's because Morde's Ult is a Displacement Type of CC which is contradictory to QSS as it says it removes all types of CC except Displacement Type like Airborne while Olaf, GP, Rengar and Milio cleanses all CC types
:) Morde Bot going crazy fr.
You forgot to check Rengar's empowered W, since I remember it can cancel Morde's ult.
We staying in Brazil with this one bois 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
You forgot about rengar brother meaw!
yes, a item dont remove the realm, so the orange... yes, indeed
Now we just need the Yasuo Windwall to not block a lot of ults like Ornn ult.
Well, i guess i have to figure out a new way to run from Brazil
Might be more like a bug than a real change