This Gamebreaking Combo is STILL not fixed...

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  • @caenen6869
    @caenen6869 Před rokem +2736

    Ah, yes, Catalyst being true to its name and allowing the player to access one very fundamental bug in the stat update system.
    Riot's way of handling unit stats is rather robust. Every 0.25 seconds, the game re-calculates all your character stats. This avoids the possibility of some effect increasing or decreasing a stat but failing to undo the change again when the effect is removed.
    However, some effects do want the immediate change being possible, for example Lulu R and Volibear R want your health increase to happen **instantly** on cast. For those, the game can forcefully reevaluate your character's stats. It's with this forceful stat update that a deeply buried bug lies, which happens when something triggers the forced stat update a lot of times on a single tick of the game loop. The bug causes stat modifiers to stack up many times. That includes all stats, AD, Movespeed, even _character size mod_ and Tenacity; Notice the Olaf's stats in the clips above increasing by a LOT very briefly!
    I won't go into the detail of how it's done here, suffice to say it involves another bug in the first place. I wonder if Riot will finally clean up the engine-level one (the one described above), though.

    • @AlFasGD
      @AlFasGD Před rokem +112

      I love how this company straight-up refuses to rebuild their core engine system, makes you reconsider whether you're that bad if you get rejected from the company of your dreams

    • @caenen6869
      @caenen6869 Před rokem +159

      @@AlFasGD Several systems on engine level have been overhauled already, damage tags for example. That said, there's a couple of "simple" engine level bugs that they either haven't properly identified, not properly acessed/understood or simply refuse to fix in favor of workarounds and bandaids which are really annoying to me.

    • @soedragons3582
      @soedragons3582 Před rokem +1

      @@AlFasGD would rebuilding the core engine system fix anything? I don't know about programing so I need to ask about it

    • @shannonarrrum
      @shannonarrrum Před rokem +1

      wp

    • @AlFasGD
      @AlFasGD Před rokem +37

      @@soedragons3582 rebuilding it would greatly help with commonly encountered bugs and especially timings, stat bugs and alike. It takes time, that's the one thing you have to have in mind. But eventually you'll be more capable of delivering new mechanics that play together nicely, without trying your hardest to hackily bodge Renata Glasc's R into the game.

  • @johnranbandeira1948
    @johnranbandeira1948 Před rokem +1134

    Ryze: Look what they need to mimic a fraction of my power.

  • @Vandiril
    @Vandiril  Před rokem +1181

    It's been almost a week since I first saw this bug in action, but it's still not fixed...
    Some people have been abusing this combo for the past few days - I really hope Riot will fix it soon.
    Not gonna lie, this spaghetti is good

    • @bojack2625
      @bojack2625 Před rokem +4

      hello

    • @TheDoctorOfThrills
      @TheDoctorOfThrills Před rokem +4

      Can you speculate on what's causing it? I'm so confused

    • @Lyionis
      @Lyionis Před rokem

      There is new bug. If you proc manaflow band while having catalyst, you lose tons of mana. I tried now on practice tool and after using q my mana dropped from 800 to 200

    • @valorant.shitpost_gaming
      @valorant.shitpost_gaming Před rokem +16

      How to do it? I need to abuse it and hit challenger 💪

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ Před rokem +1

      Welp thank you for making a video showcasing how to abuse this bug. Now I gotta ban olaf.

  • @koichich6279
    @koichich6279 Před rokem +792

    Well good sir this is clearly Olaf's new secret feature: the black hole he keeps under his hat

    • @jiaxihao1847
      @jiaxihao1847 Před rokem +7

      The ace up his sleeve, the ice in his axe, the poro in his beard, oh opps, that's braum

    • @fireemblemaddict128
      @fireemblemaddict128 Před rokem +1

      Is this an old League joke I'm not getting?

    • @peterpop-off
      @peterpop-off Před rokem +3

      ​@@fireemblemaddict128 while fighting the ruination, viego turned olaf into a mage 🧙

  • @realSer
    @realSer Před rokem +345

    Funny how many bugs/exploits we've had recently related to mana systems, but this is the king of them all so far

    • @drvurruct2274
      @drvurruct2274 Před rokem +8

      God I hope this doesn't mean that Riot will give up entirely and just remove Mana. They kind of already are pushing it away from being a system you should actually keep track of, but removing it would be insane.

    • @not58me
      @not58me Před rokem +2

      ​@@drvurruct2274 no way, they could never do that. They would have to remove or change like a quarter of all the items, some champs would need a complete rework like kassadin, while almost all the champs that use mana would need some changes as well. All the mana runes gone. Early game would probably be played somewhat differently and mages would never be the same. Irelia would have infinite sustain, lol. Its way too big a change to just drop that like, yeah, in the new season there is like no more mana, heh..

  • @dushadow3840
    @dushadow3840 Před rokem +130

    Olaf is the first champion in League to master ultra instinct

    • @TheFirstK001
      @TheFirstK001 Před rokem

      Nah we had multiple already just last year the Galio Q bug.

  • @LikesWafflez
    @LikesWafflez Před rokem +66

    Every time Olaf grows for a tiny second I hear a vine boom in my head.
    I think that’s funny.

  • @HiItsSalty
    @HiItsSalty Před rokem +56

    whats more amazing is that olaf at lvl 10 still had stacks of manaflow band to use

  • @Vexy93
    @Vexy93 Před rokem +29

    I remember that something like this happened to me in the past, but I think it was triumph + level up. I've got a kill with Pyke and did lvl up right after getting the kill, one moment later I went from zero hp to full hp

  • @alitaher003
    @alitaher003 Před rokem +5

    Lore-accurate Olaf where he can just drop a mountain on someone, the mountain being a metaphor for the axe.

  • @minonimus3624
    @minonimus3624 Před rokem +14

    It still works. Hard to abuse the bug though as you
    1) need catalyst for it to work (1300 gold for no damage outside the bug)
    2) only have 10 manaflow procs a game where it COULD work, so no Q-ing or E-ing enemies before catalyst for more chances
    3) very very hard to time (maybe not with scripts)
    I would consider trying the bug in real games trolling more than anything. Try it in practice tool though, that’s fun. I got a screenshot with 136k dps output on a target dummy!
    Requirements: manaflow, catalyst
    How to: level up at least to 6 preferably, as ulting makes the stat increase bigger. Ult, proc manaflow with Q and E right after for big damage. You can see the stat increase for a split second on the player stats, you have to time your E and the stat boost. It is possible to Q and E the same target and one-shot but it’s easier to throw the Q on a target farther away and E a different one (can also be objectives like in the vid). It should be noted that it can be very very difficult to time, especially when Q-E-ing the same target and proccing manaflow is limited to 10 times per game. Try one-hitting baron with crit olaf!

  • @colossaldonut5190
    @colossaldonut5190 Před rokem +4

    I don't even know where to begin on learning how this works, this is spaghetti on a whole new level

  • @Nigel-Milano
    @Nigel-Milano Před rokem +28

    I like this Olaf buff.

  • @Kawaii-Waifu
    @Kawaii-Waifu Před rokem +29

    If I try to replicate this, instead of the big damage, it just makes a single Q use up the entire mana bar.

    • @sp1du350
      @sp1du350 Před rokem +4

      i just tried in practice tool and it is kinda hard to time or i just dont exactly understand how to replicate it, nonetheless did work just like in the vid lol. 1 shot a drake

    • @SleepyStreak
      @SleepyStreak Před rokem

      I checked details on how to do the bug. It's been patched or just refuses to work for me. It requires max conqueror stacks, and manaflow band ready to proc.

    • @sp1du350
      @sp1du350 Před rokem

      @@SleepyStreak does it? from what i tested it just required conq and manaflow to proc. Also stopped working after manaflow was max stacked

    • @ProverbialLemon
      @ProverbialLemon Před rokem +2

      @@SleepyStreak I just got it to work in practice tool, you have to have conquerors and manaflow band. Proc with Q and you can watch your damage tick up to high numbers for just a split second. No max conq stacks needed.

    • @minichikimakubex
      @minichikimakubex Před rokem

      @@ProverbialLemon yes and when the mana flow is already completed it stops working

  • @faloughasch9239
    @faloughasch9239 Před rokem +5

    The phantom Olaf update we needed

  • @herobayer8006
    @herobayer8006 Před rokem +10

    imagine building Aeons on Olaf and then this bug pops out because you're a maniac and bring Mana ring too

  • @zivnoel7146
    @zivnoel7146 Před rokem +8

    Any explanation behind this "feature" XD?

  • @Desterixmusic
    @Desterixmusic Před rokem

    @vandiril if you go full build without ending to cast the mana ring until 250, it stops the bug

  • @dregoch8405
    @dregoch8405 Před rokem +1

    I watch a lot interactions with this bug in hextech lab. Most funny when Neeko with good timing using passiv and transform into big Olaf but permanent

  • @TheDoctorOfThrills
    @TheDoctorOfThrills Před rokem +121

    This is the most astonishing bug I've seen in my history playing the game, over 10 years, and I cannot fathom what might be causing this interaction. Olaf Q doesn't scale with mana, and what is going on with his model size???

    • @genshinhimitsudesu3965
      @genshinhimitsudesu3965 Před rokem +8

      bkb of dota

    • @stan2139
      @stan2139 Před rokem +37

      Honestly, nothing will ever beat the Short Circuit exploit from TF2. When the weapon was changed, you could use it to artificially lag enemies by firing it in their general direction

    • @smbsmw1111
      @smbsmw1111 Před rokem +8

      He gets a ton of every stat, including size, ad, movspeed, atspeed, ap and range. Why? No idea

    • @mohamedbrankiregani8189
      @mohamedbrankiregani8189 Před rokem +47

      My man forgot 500 kills poppy oneshotting everyone from base

    • @bugra-yildirim
      @bugra-yildirim Před rokem +8

      he got 5k ad for 0.2 second. Catalsyst probably bugs out when user get maximum mana. Now ı wonder if its works with cookies too.

  • @WarChaserz
    @WarChaserz Před rokem +7

    This must be one his lore accurate abilities
    Even shown in the cinematic the Call where he just shrugs a giant piece of rock or ice by flexing his arms back

  • @SquintyGears
    @SquintyGears Před rokem +1

    i'm gonna start playing ranked again. just making sure to keep up to date on the lastest videos here

  • @Commonperson107
    @Commonperson107 Před rokem

    But does it have a certain amount of time to proc since the manaflow band is fully stacked after 10th times you hit the enemy champs

  • @krukis98
    @krukis98 Před rokem +2

    Riot's spaghetti code never ceases to amaze.

  • @Maiskys
    @Maiskys Před rokem +2

    Riot: "We realized Olaf should be more like he is in the lore. So to prevent his death in a fight, we made sure he's always winning."

  • @KingValorox
    @KingValorox Před rokem

    Working perfectly as intended

  • @TwoMagnar
    @TwoMagnar Před rokem +1

    Mechanics insanes... 😯

  • @Belhenix
    @Belhenix Před rokem +21

    how does this even happen? the item doesn't even do damage

    • @matejbosela9093
      @matejbosela9093 Před rokem +4

      for details, see the new pinned comment. TLDR version is that the game while recalculating stats go for a loop due to another bug and multiplies your stats for the next 0.25s , ie. until next stat recalculation.

  • @joaquincaceresguibovich3182

    bro that caster minion at 0:27 living with one health against 3k damage xd

  • @uncledoggo
    @uncledoggo Před rokem +1

    Pyke is smiling under his mask.

  • @deszmo4280
    @deszmo4280 Před rokem

    Olaf be out here casually going super saiyan

  • @thomastang8432
    @thomastang8432 Před rokem

    So by proccing manaflow band at the same time as a stat buff (olaf R) it jumbles the stats on projectile abilities to a new rate?

    • @minonimus3624
      @minonimus3624 Před rokem

      No its a general stat increase that happens on a manaflow proc when olaf has catalyst. Activating his ult increases that stat increase but it’s not necessary for dealing giga-damage. It only lasts for a split second so it’s hard to time and you only have 10 manaflow procs per game for the bug, every time you proc it without catalyst it’s a wasted proc. Multiple reasons why it’s not really an easy thing to abuse. I would consider it trolling

  • @TTK4FUN
    @TTK4FUN Před rokem

    item aeons and manaflow , the frame you get the manaflow you get 1500 AD , if you have full stack conqueror it's 5000

  • @justas7101
    @justas7101 Před rokem

    If i have time to play i hope il test it myself

  • @lv4715
    @lv4715 Před rokem

    This reminds me of the pyke healing bug from a few years ago. (I litterally watched that video yesterday)

  • @snb8805
    @snb8805 Před rokem +1

    Hey, now that i tried the bug in practice tool, i foud out that if u land the Q with catalyst of aeons and mana ring, you lose almost all your mana KEK

  • @painiscupcake891
    @painiscupcake891 Před rokem

    The instant "what" in chat lol

  • @Eskeletor_210
    @Eskeletor_210 Před rokem

    Wait are you supposed to ult when the q makes contact while having the item? Rip Brolaf when they do some extra shit on him

  • @azirious666
    @azirious666 Před rokem

    For Valhalla - Olaf

  • @PerkulatorTime
    @PerkulatorTime Před rokem

    What’s the combo? How do you trigger it?

  • @Driblex1003
    @Driblex1003 Před rokem

    Olaf played some God of War Ragnarok and thought: I think I should be on the same level, since my ulti has the same name.

  • @LordetoYorumo
    @LordetoYorumo Před rokem

    Do you know how it works exactly? How can this very specific thing do something so big

  • @Logby2
    @Logby2 Před rokem +3

    This just happened to me in game lol

  • @sirfoofoo154
    @sirfoofoo154 Před rokem

    okay thanks, gonna abuse this.

  • @mayzavan
    @mayzavan Před rokem

    Hi Vandiril i sent you an email with game where everyone was invisible, you know about any other cases of that?

  • @boyd3680
    @boyd3680 Před rokem

    i swear every bug i see a tahm kench in it

  • @czarosnkg6080
    @czarosnkg6080 Před rokem +1

    0:38 rare JP2 olaf

  • @teamoplayer1811
    @teamoplayer1811 Před rokem

    Vandiril finally found it

  • @Zoifersan
    @Zoifersan Před rokem

    It's not just spaghetti. It's whole ramen.

  • @thecherrypi9718
    @thecherrypi9718 Před rokem

    Someone spiced the mana with Mordekaiser and Viego

  • @mmopronick7443
    @mmopronick7443 Před rokem +46

    Ok. I really need context here

    • @Flechashe
      @Flechashe Před rokem +2

      Olaf procs Approach Velocity with his Q slow and for a fraction of a second gets a ton of stats. Why/how? No idea
      Edit: it's not approach velocity

    • @enderhasnostyle
      @enderhasnostyle Před rokem +4

      @@Flechashe it has nothing to do with approach velocity it happens when you have catalyst with stacked manaflow band and getting 10 or 12 stacks of conqueror once you attack on the 10th or 12th stack of conqueror it gives you a massive amount of stats for a fraction of a second

    • @lea-rl4eu
      @lea-rl4eu Před rokem

      @@enderhasnostyle I don't think having full conqueror stacks matters in the clip at 0:31 he have 0 stacks when he trigger the bug

    • @Clizzzy
      @Clizzzy Před rokem

      ​@@enderhasnostyle Bro qué, en el último clip ni siquiera tiene ni flujo de maná ni conquistador completamente apilados

    • @Haikuno
      @Haikuno Před rokem

      @@Clizzzy por qué contestaba en español jajajajajaj

  • @ArasmaS22
    @ArasmaS22 Před rokem

    For the records, also Vladimir Q has not been fixed yet. (while the last patch said the contrary).

  • @rwndae
    @rwndae Před rokem

    One of the few bugs I can't seem to figure out at all.
    What has mana flow got to do with his Q together with conqueror and that item doesn't even give you damage. On top of that the scale bug when he gets the damage change.

    • @melonboi6318
      @melonboi6318 Před rokem

      one possibility can be:
      - the functions have access to more memory than they should, and the next programmer (thinking that their friend did a good job) assumes that he can simplify his code without extra checks, while he is actually accessing the wrong memory adresses in some cases, and this is just a human mistake but it's not easy to spot

    • @ags8507
      @ags8507 Před rokem

      it has to do with the checks to the stats, when a you gain stats like manaflow band, just more spaghetti (multiple stat checks in a small amount of time making all stats stack for a brief second)

  • @guilhermet-8009
    @guilhermet-8009 Před rokem +1

    Olaf lore accurate

  • @frankiecoss7141
    @frankiecoss7141 Před rokem

    how....just how....

  • @RedRiot914
    @RedRiot914 Před rokem

    is there another champion this works on though?

  • @thatdudenamedkevin5627

    with the latest cookie drama he got the PDF buff

  • @tdchronobreak852
    @tdchronobreak852 Před rokem +2

    Same rule as Pyke with -2 147 483 648 movementspeed I suppose?

  • @forevergogo
    @forevergogo Před rokem

    Uh-oh~
    Spaghetti Codes~!

  • @Flaax2k13
    @Flaax2k13 Před rokem

    How does it work tho? why are there no sites that teach?

  • @samuelt8825
    @samuelt8825 Před rokem +5

    Small indie compagny btw

  • @ajgres9899
    @ajgres9899 Před rokem

    i dont know if im dumb or what but this glitch isnt working for me its just draining like half mana bar with out the additional dmg

  • @shierufu
    @shierufu Před rokem

    I was wondering how he was doing so much dmg.

  • @GravityTV12
    @GravityTV12 Před rokem

    Thats the Olaf in the enemy team while mine goes 0/5/3

  • @commandercritic9036
    @commandercritic9036 Před rokem

    Okay, so I’ve used catalyst and mana flow band before and NEVER seen this, is this an Olaf only thing?

    • @fanze6559
      @fanze6559 Před rokem

      yes since it breaks the speghetti code since olaf don't use mana. However it does not work on any other manaless champs so idk.

  • @Shad0wWarr10r
    @Shad0wWarr10r Před rokem +2

    1 item 14k attack YEP

  • @bradleyince9992
    @bradleyince9992 Před rokem

    Lore accurate Olaf axes

  • @AGENT_02056
    @AGENT_02056 Před rokem

    Now I know why I got one shot a week ago against him

  • @mombei9065
    @mombei9065 Před rokem

    Olaf disabled... I wanted to have some fun with this. Anyone else know if some other champions work?

  • @arieFrenzyKill
    @arieFrenzyKill Před rokem

    Olaf main : Where's the bug?

  • @randomstranger3473
    @randomstranger3473 Před rokem

    it also works in towers

  • @arthas236
    @arthas236 Před rokem

    Lore accurate olaf

  • @KataHub
    @KataHub Před rokem

    its also called a powerspike

  • @Zoey--
    @Zoey-- Před rokem

    My team just absolutely dumpstered someone trying this bug in a normal.

  • @user-Chaotic
    @user-Chaotic Před rokem

    It's an scary but if you can't juke it but it's limiting the player using the bug in skill usage that's why take advantage of that first so you can destroy the bug user like I done it multiple time now just be alert of the Q and you'll be fine.

  • @endersplitt2435
    @endersplitt2435 Před rokem

    I paused the video at the point where he gets his stats and now i wonder: why do THese specific stats get increased and why by that amount?

  • @Rakowy_Manaskal
    @Rakowy_Manaskal Před rokem

    0:39 look at AD :)

  • @sanjitsrinivasaiah860

    Does this only work on olaf?

  • @Yoker220
    @Yoker220 Před rokem

    Great, now we have another reason to permaban Olaf!

  • @FartherCaspian
    @FartherCaspian Před rokem

    Tyler gonna be spamming the fuck out of Olaf now

  • @user-dp5fq4vc8m
    @user-dp5fq4vc8m Před rokem

    Now it only drains your mana.

  • @TheHighP
    @TheHighP Před rokem

    From 100 attack damage to nearly 6,000 lolol

  • @sissycat64
    @sissycat64 Před rokem

    how does this even happen

  • @ionek1052
    @ionek1052 Před rokem

    "It's balanced what do you want lol" -Riot

  • @karateka-qy5pr
    @karateka-qy5pr Před rokem

    How hard is it to procc?

  • @mateusz1386
    @mateusz1386 Před rokem

    How this bug works?

  • @374mikester
    @374mikester Před rokem

    Bout time olaf got a execute

  • @Giammy1109
    @Giammy1109 Před rokem +1

    Riot pls fix I am now scared shitless of Olaf

  • @gabrielmorenoevora3668

    dude i tried it yesterday with olaf and it didnt work

  • @Daiki202
    @Daiki202 Před rokem

    League of Legends probably has THE MOST technical debt I've ever seen in any game ever

  • @rsg_magfire
    @rsg_magfire Před rokem

    Damn Ragnarok being lore accurate

  • @VampyWorm
    @VampyWorm Před rokem

    anyone else seeing this with sylas as well?

  • @CarlosWolfram
    @CarlosWolfram Před rokem

    Usar esto en ranked sería motivo de ban ? :U

  • @PANGPOWER
    @PANGPOWER Před rokem

    No he needs that what do you mean?

  • @AFS05
    @AFS05 Před rokem

    Olafs real power 💪

  • @ieKcs
    @ieKcs Před rokem

    I tried this on aram and it works...

  • @mayiflex
    @mayiflex Před rokem

    Why is noone combining it with first strike

  • @anonbeasts3779
    @anonbeasts3779 Před rokem

    Felt like i'm watching one piece manga i that nika

  • @dupstepzauberflote549

    This Gamebreaking Combo is STILL not fixed... its fixed...

  • @gabry0989
    @gabry0989 Před rokem

    Omg riot