Venom Creeper vs. Axial AX10
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Here is a short video of 88_Pathy's Venom Creeper taking a tough line versus my Axial AX10.
Location: Between the Courthouse and La Playa Beach, Millerton Lake, CA
GPS Coordinates: 36°59.513' N 119°41.474'W
88_Pathy's white/red Venom Creeper:
ESC: Castle Creations Sidewinder
BEC: Stock 4.8 volt?
Servo: Hitech 645MG, 107 oz/in
Receiver/Radio: Airtronics MX3FHSS
Motor: 35-turn Integy Lathe
Tires: 5.5" HPI Rock Grabbers
Front Tire Weight: 6oz each
Rear Tire Weight: 3oz each
Battery: 8-cell 1500mAh NiMH
BigMike's white/green Axial AX10:
ESC: Moped V16R Bravo
BEC: Custom NTE962 6.2 volt X2
Servo: Hobbico CS170, 333 oz/in
Receiver/Radio: Traxxas TQ3
Motor: 45-turn Integy Lathe
Tires: 4.9" Proline Badlands
Front Tire Weight: 7oz each
Rear Tire Weight: 4oz each
Battery: 7-cell 1500mAh NiMH
Awesome! You will be very happy regardless which one you get! They are a LOT of FUN!! The only thing I envy from the Venom is the axles. Wait the two weeks, get it built, and start having fun!!!!
Stock the Axial has much to be desired. The ride height has been lowered, the upper link mounts at each axle have been raised, the transmission has been flipped to reduce torque twist, and the lower links have been brought inboard at the chassis and outboard at the axle for greater stability. The stock SUPER HARD springs have been replaced with much, much softer springs, and 13 ounces of weights have been added for increased traction. Play with your suspension, you'll find it can be much better!
We both run 1500 mAh 7- and 8-cell 3/4A batteries from The Crawler Store. Playing like this we get about 35 mins on the 7-cell pack and about 45-mins on the 8-cell pack. Keep in mind that we are geared a bit low. If we run taller gearing then it will draw more amps. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for all the comments guys! My buddy has done a TON of modifications to his Venom and we hope to return to this rock for a rematch, hopefully sometime this fall :-)
Thanks for the comment! Are you referring to body roll? Perhaps you meant to say articulation? This Venom has mostly stock suspension components whereas I've done a lot of improvement to my Axial suspension, and it shows.
well other than the electronics you can make your rig highly water resistant, it's just extensive. Line tranny boxes/axle cases with marine grease and coat necessary parts like bearings/gears/axles with spray-on silicone (get the right stuff and it'll dry on leaving a smooth dry tack that repels water). I did this with my emaxx before a mud romp and everything was fine. It also helps to dry off your kit as best as possible after any runs.
@LJNERF The main waterproofing of an RC car involves sealing the speed controller and receiver from water. The rest is ok to use in water but I HIGHLY recommend AGAINST this unless you want to constantly be rebuilding your axles, transmission, and replacing servos. Water + gears and bearings is always a bad idea. This is just my personal preference and many people do play in the water, but I choose to not do this with my expensive toys. Thanks!
The venom is by far a very capable crawling machine, it just needs someone that knows how to crawl driving it. Anyone who says they dont like it just isnt up to par on driving or has a bias against the underdog bc they have less hype compared to the ax10. buying the venom was the best choice i made.
@diabetishead In general, higher turn motors develop more torque while lower turn motors develop more RPMs. So it's a trade off for power vs speed. Additionally, lower turn motors consume more battery power to operate, so by using a higher turn motor you will get a longer run time :-)
No offence, but the creeper owner knows nothing about suspension setup. Also, with the creeper you should try unlocking the rear diff as having it locked can cause it to torque up like that. You'll be amazed what they can do with open diffs.
Also have a 92 toyota dlx on 31x10.5, nothing like your guys rigs but will be definatly
@ifUwalkbeforeUcrawl Interesting. Thank you for the detailed comment!
the creeper looks like it doesn't have any tire weights which help a ton on the rocks
I cant really see what you done with the venoms shocks but either you have it shimmed too much or your choice in shock oil is too heavy. If thats not the problem then I would recommend getting softer shocks. The suspension is supposed to twist when one wheel is up on the rocks, instead the whole truck wants to go up and that makes the performance suffer allot.
@apb424. Mine dosen't. They may have done it to theirs but I've never herd of it. When they said put it in high it coulda been a joke. Like when your really offloading in 1.1 scale Rigs some stuff requires 4 low and others 4 high.
Aaah now lets compare prices!
Hi I know this video it's a few years back but I just bought a venom creeper (safari). From a garage sale and I really enjoy it..any place you recommend or if you can help me find parts..or a complete one besides eBay. Thanks for your time!
Did the Venom driver want your tires going in the wrong direction?
I also have an ax10 but with a proline exocage and it crawls, but when i see those videos of your mountaineer I want to gear my ax10 like that....is that possible? My transmission is already all steel
would you recommend saddle batteries i gotta get new ones but i wanna get saddles cause a mod im about to do requires them (tcs tube body) cant wait!
The venom has a 70 degree articulation but for some reason in this video it looks like a 10 degree, what's up with that?
Venom guy needed some practice :D Good video though.
do you have any idea what you are talking about. Tire weights are the best thing for rock crawling. matter of a fact they make after market rims that have ball bearings in them for added weight.
What is the AX10's top speed with the diff unlocked and the stoch high gears?
whats the difference between a 45 turn motor and 35 and 55?
I mean, like straight out of the box speed, no mods
Is it the car or the driver who makes it over the rock?
Its not the car its the driver
it seems the white one has stiffer springs, thus less articulation, my opinion, dont know much.
Plus you didnt even tune the venom's stiff suspension
what scale is the creeper
this really doesnt show how good the crawler are it shows who is a better driver
ZipTies for the body ;)
which is a better truck
@dhruvvikram i wanted to get the crawler king to but i realized the axial ax10 is way better
+1 on Axial's Part! Venom=Fail
those arent stock
Venom would do better if u lowered th weight and put eitheir softer springs or lighter oil
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
blue is better!!!!!
Venom crawler got the talent but the quality of the material very poor and the up grade parts are very hard to get. So i say NO to venom crawler.. sucks...
I say kapcai69 sucks creeper is awsome, this creeper is not properly set up mate wheel weights and suspension too hard
Creeper will beat eny other crawler