@@Idknlandwh123 yea I know, the videos a bit long so you might’ve not heard it but at some point I say it applies to every fandom but that I believe it’s the worst in the gacha community, thanks for watching!
@@Nomnomnom165yep, for over a year I see how in genshin (not english part) fandom some people are ready to kill to protect pixels from "hate" they expect 100% of people to like 100% of details, things etc., and if someone doesn't like something then it's hate and "fandom can't be without hate even for a day"
I enjoy and play Wuthering Waves, while I dont play Genshin or ZZZ due to space and graphics issue, I still respect it as a whole. But I can never attack others JUST BECAUSE this game is better than the other. Every game has flaws, everyone has biases and favorites. I just wish everyone in the gacha community need to understand: YOU CAN PLAY ALL GACHA GAMES U LIKE and stop hating one over the other. This is why no matter how positive the community is, bad apples will make it into a cess pool of toxicity and can never find casual or normal people who just want to enjoy the game
I think the meaning of powercreep is when a character that is from the same niche (element and gameplay/rotation) just does the same thing other does but better. The first case of powecreep for wuwa is not Jinhsi, its XiangliYao which does exactly what Calcharo does but better. So in my humble opinion powercreep you talked about (Jinhsi's case) in WW is real. But the one with 1.2 Xiangli is real lm
They know you speaks the truth, but they don't want to hear the truth. Because they don't want to think that their favorite is now worthless in the face of the new hotness. These people need to learn to accept it or just quit. This has been a thing with Gacha game since it was invented. Just because the old character went from SSS tier to SS doesn't mean they're worthless. If this is how they act then they never really like the character to begin with. They just love playing top-tier. Nothing wrong with that. Just be honest about it. I always laugh with I see the, "who cares", commenters. Who cares? They obviously do, since they bother to comment about it. Most of the time they are the ones that was bothered by it the most. Just the mere mention of powercreep will get them red in the face and not listen to any logic after.
The you can't review this game till you beat the entire game was caused by 1 man and that man is tectone. He made the statement to majority of audience that no one can review this game unless they complete it
@@DegenKingYT oh 100%, people listen to tectone and run with whatever he says whenever someone thinks differently never thinking for themselves, In respect to him he has played the zzz launch all himself so far but even he admits the tv’s are too much and the game is being carried by the artstyle and music, we even had a similar rating on the game overall I just think he doesn’t understand the perspective of someone who plays these games 30 minutes to an hour a day at max having to deal with the slugfest early game zzz has for weeks
@@_Gabimaru agree not everyone is going to have the patience of powering through a bad experience for the price a little fun. Not everyone has the time in the day to do so. People time is very valuable especially when we are not sitting on millions of dollars like him. And I agree with you that people are disingenuous with the reality that the tv will always be there because it is laced into the story and commissions.
@@DegenKingYTlast I checked apparently they’re gonna take TVs out but yea, the problem zzz has and the thing I feel like he’s ignoring during this time is that zzz as a combat game doesn’t have enough meat in its combat especially when people are coming off wuwa, combine this with the tv sections being a drag and the fact that people are only allowed to interact with their characters in combat which by this point hoyo community is established to be super casuals who don’t like combat why should those people stay when they’ve seen everything the game has to offer that they’d care about
@@amari7782 I understand what you say and agree with most of what you say. I highly doubt they are going to remove the tv because it is laced in story telling and exploration. And hoyo is known to not walk back anything but just wait out the mob. And we the hardcore players are the minority. That's why majority will say the game is somewhat difficult. And I have played bosses on my phone using 1 thumb in my hand while scrolling on my other phone. I don't think I can do that in genshin or wuthering waves. The combat I agree is not an issue on the players side but the enemies feel like ultra durable punching bags with preset moves that once you figure it out the fight becomes boring. Tv does take too much time because of over yapping and over explaining. The puzzles are easy. The issue many have with the tv is when they are telling key story moments inside the tv and it breaks the immersion like saving the people on the train or saving civilians from the ether. They should at least have cutscenes of saving the people. Can't using my characters outside of combat will hurt their sales because the difference between me pulling for a character and not is being able to play them for 30 seconds. That is bad marketing and it's pointless pulling especially at the moment I have two 4 star team tearing up everything. I have 5 stars but not using them. And the 5 stars look like 4 stars. This hate was caused by them not advertising the game properly so when hardcore players play the game and review it. They are gonna have a more honest no glazed review of the game that it's not for hardcore players. But for the casuals who want to look like they are talented it's hard for them. And there is nothing wrong with that.
What I can say to you is Welcome to the internet. Sadly it's just like you said, lovers gonna love, haters gonna hate. When it comes to these gachas there is no middle ground.
About the power creep yes I believe that Jinhsi is highly powerful than Jiyan. I have both and my experience playing these two are in different level. The reason why Jiyan is still in S tier is because no characters other than Jinhsi can beat Jiyans number. Jiyan has so many techs to be able to keep his Ult per rotation at S0. Jinhsi however is brain dead team rotation that even without completely attacking the boss, the intro just break the shield 1 and half of rotation. Jiyan has autoparry but that comes from his Ult and you have to make sure his Ult is up every rotation. As per JinHsi, she doesn't need to parry, she uses grapple and stays at high elevation accurately hitting enemies without any dps loss, because everytime her dragon breath higs enemies, it time stops/. The real powercreep here is, Jinhsi able to skip half of boss most deadliest mechanics and take note that Jinhsi has unlimited dash in midair and she can aswell dodge unlimitedly meanwhile Jinyans is still on the ground dodging, parrying, and counter attacking. Not all boss have parry mechanics keep that in mind.
i enjoy genshins MAIN STORY, and some of the combat, wuthering waves i enjoy both the combat movement and story, and how they listen to the community and not just china unlike genshin. and also wuwa's devs are know to buff lack luster characters down the line, so even if there is a huge power creep, the devs will buff according, so even if power creep dose happen old characters wont be left behind. i just think its because she's a resnator ,the newest unit, she dosnt out dps the general guy but shes still very good, tho for like a dragon ,they are probably one the same level of arcons cause it sounds like theres going to be other resnators like this, so it makes since to me they would be strong. genshin NEVER bring units up to par and there already is power creep, every game suffers from that, but also wuwa hasn't updated characters yet, and it probably wont happen till maybe a 2.0 update so thats still a wait and see. but thats besides the point, its true everyone has a bias, my bias is probably more obvious as ive been playing genshin since the start, and all the bad ive seen has stuck to me so when i see withering waves do and say things i like that genshin never dose, free 5 stars, meaningful rewards and compensation (witch makes me go "uh yeah ill probably buy a battle pass to support the devs!"), while im beyond frustrated with the lack of communication or lack of any choice to listen to the community on na side from mihoyo,,,i just automatically think wuwa is better...
Hold your horses. We don't even know how bad the powercreep will be. Only time will tell and stop being a bootlicker. Wuwa might go in another direction.
@@arthurgeier2545 bootlicker??? bro, did you not read anything i said? wuwa said it themselfs that they would buff lacking characters, and they have already listened to comunity feedback and the rewards have been far and away compaired to genshin, witch made genshin up there rewards. there was a small bug with a character and they gave us a 10 pull, they would of never have done that otherwise, but now that there's competition, genshin has been giving more rewards, witch is good for the community. im not licking anyones boot, i enjoy wuwa's combat way more then genshins and thats my personal feelings, im not licking there boots and letting myself get stepped on, i say what i like, and ive had my issues with genshin that have fallen on def ears, while i get told to just deal with it by the ACTUAL, genshin bootlickers, its like hating on genshin when you have nothing but wuwa in your bio, i enjoy both genshin and wuwa, i just feel wuwa is better, cause i care about gameplay way more then filler boring story, and not having a skip button drives me crazy... and hoyo STILLL hasnt added a skip button. like im sorry there storys are not that good. but thats me just ranting about a system they refuse to add.
@@Honed-But there are also people who don't play for rewards only. As long as characters don't get powercrept like in a few other games, I can live with a tad less rewards. Btw, I am not the only one saying this: Wuwa's combat is more fastpaced and focuses more on dodging/parrying. The combat is mix of MH and DMC. So it makes up for the poorly written story with flashy combat. People who have a sharp eye can notice right away that acts feel rushed and the world-building requires a rework. So whenever people say that Wuwa is better than Genshin, they are not becoming clowns but the whole circus. If I was Rover, I would ask them what the f they want from me and why should I care. Who wrote the story? A teenager? MC is being treated like he is over 9000 special over and over again. Screw that. That is not how you write story. There are levels to that and Wuwa is at the bottom. Why not make the acts longer by not explaining everything upfront and let players try to figure it out on their own? Why not throw in more filler? And why is there the desire to skip everything? I have not skipped a single dialogue. What is the point of that? Why even bother going through the story? Just farm echos all day, every day until you cannot look at them anymore. And then, the world feels bland. I miss GI's vibrant world in Wuwa but at least the combat is flashy. It is like, people who have never played the games which Kurogames copied the movesets and combat from, went all cult-mode and trying to present this game as the next Genshin-killer. People love to be the whole circus nowadays 😂
Ill give you an example. I play Tower of Fantasy and the main complaint people bring up is power creep. And yet here i see wu wa having power creep and no 1 minds it. Allso funny thing is i voiced why i prefer tof to wu wa and had this same excuse "ow its a new game and wu wa is better then what tower of fantasy 1.0 was, and im like buddy tof is now in 4.0. Then i get the answer ow wu wa is a new game like constantly shifting the gole post. Like they have to defend their game and trash every other game. Even big content creators like mmo bytes dose this. Im ok with people saying something is bad or they dont like it hell even ill say tof has issues but i have noticed that people in this community tend to insult the competittion like they have a vendetta against it and the people who play it.
The big reason no one is complaining is because jinhsi isn’t really power creeping anyone. Yes she deals a ton of dmg but because her rotations require more work she ultimately isn’t outperforming anyone
@@amari7782 Its good if thats true. Mostly i hate the double standard here like these people really try to put down any game and its player base if they play a game they personally dont like and shill endlessly about games they like. Thats the main reason why i stopped watching them.
ive never heard mmobytes say anything bad about the tof community or game that isnt deserved. Also why do you say "And yet here i see wu wa having power creep and no 1 minds it" but then you say when someone tells you otherwise "Its good if thats true". So you make a claim that wuwa has powercreep when you dont even know if it did? Yikes.
@@Aenahea Then you have not paid close attention to it. The guy has on alot of occasion dragged and badmouthed tof. Sometimes even in videos that have nothing to do with tof. I even left a comment expressing this and his answer was "its a meme". And more n more i just see him as arrogant and clickbait so no i dont think he is without bias. As for the wu wa i was wrong on that so that was my bad.
I completely agree, when it comes to the gacha community, people tend to be blind to the honest facts or shit on the facts as they are. Especially since the people who are playing ZZZ are usually Hoyo diehards and tend to think that defending them will get them some type of clout in the dev's eyes. As for the haters, they tend to have a difficulty adjusting to the game and immediatly blame it on the gacha system and call it a pay-to-win scenario. It's not. Anyone who pays for content will certainly be having an easier time, that's the point of Gacha, to pull for stronger characters. But in especially open world games like Genshin and WuWa, you can make ANYONE a DPS with enough time and effort. It feels like people are ignoring what the real point of the game is- to have fun and that sometimes developers are just. Greedy. Wuwa's release put heavy expectations on ZZZ, and imo, from what I've seen, ZZZ has not lived up to them. That said, I've not really seen the game or played it myself. Great video, you have a new sub from me!
@@reign1576how are they biased? They literally said they dont know anything about the game and is just saying why zzz is getting the hate it is from their perspective
@@reign1576 From what I've seen, it's very hyped and the characters have tons of personality. However, the graphics make me feel slightly sick and I don't enjoy the way the game is set up. In addition, I personally can't handle playing multiple Gacha games at once. For me, it's a point to choose what I think will be fun, and ZZZ doesn't live up to my personal ideals. However, that's not to say it isn't a good or bad game. Just like every game, it has its ups and downs.
You had me until you lied your self. It takes weeks for you to reach level 30? Are you sure of that? It took me 6 days. Also people are not saying that there is no tv at later sequences, we are sayinf that TV gets less intrusive and a lot better. You dony like it, fine, but don't go saying that it takes 20 minutes before a single combat section, becaus ethat is also an outrageous lie. Most of the long TV setments haplen in exploration quests, which focus specifically on TV, not on story
@@bloody4558 I said it’d take weeks for someone who plays casually half an hour to an hour a day to reach 30 which is true, it took me nearly a week to hit 30 and I was bum rushing through quests 3-4 hours a day. Just one or 2 story commissions is already half an hour, also all story commissions have TVs in them as well, the only mode without them are shiyu defense and combat commissions
@_Gabimaru dude Im casual, I play mainly Honkai Impact and Blue Archive, I play HSR, Genshin and Azur Lane and was playing WuWa and now ZZZ I only do like 30 or 40 min for ZZZ and I was already 30 in a bit more than a week just because I do everything and the tv dont take me more that 2 to 3 min when theres story and take a bit more, its just management plus I never lower the dificulty because I like it even if its a bit more challenging from the start
@@_Gabimaru Just tone it down a bit, I understand not everyone likes tv and like I said, I agree with most of your points, this one just stands out to me, as it's an example of what's being criticized. Of course, someone who only plays half an hour would definitely take long to reach it, and i know most players are close to that. I'm a traditional gamer though, I have a few hours to play daily.
I love these kind of videos no scripting no nothing just honest feelings.
tbh it's isn't just gacha community, it can happen in almost all fandoms
@@Idknlandwh123 yea I know, the videos a bit long so you might’ve not heard it but at some point I say it applies to every fandom but that I believe it’s the worst in the gacha community, thanks for watching!
@@_Gabimaru oh, I watched the whole video and didn't hear it
@@Idknlandwh12317:15 I didn’t make it really clear so I could see how you wouldn’t catch it, thanks for watching my video through though 😀
Yeah but its several hundred times worse in gacha games. Even the cs2 vs valorant convos arent as miserable as gacha debates
@@Nomnomnom165yep, for over a year I see how in genshin (not english part) fandom some people are ready to kill to protect pixels from "hate"
they expect 100% of people to like 100% of details, things etc., and if someone doesn't like something then it's hate and "fandom can't be without hate even for a day"
I enjoy and play Wuthering Waves, while I dont play Genshin or ZZZ due to space and graphics issue, I still respect it as a whole. But I can never attack others JUST BECAUSE this game is better than the other. Every game has flaws, everyone has biases and favorites. I just wish everyone in the gacha community need to understand: YOU CAN PLAY ALL GACHA GAMES U LIKE and stop hating one over the other. This is why no matter how positive the community is, bad apples will make it into a cess pool of toxicity and can never find casual or normal people who just want to enjoy the game
i used to be like that but .. reading too much comment made me sick of it
I think the meaning of powercreep is when a character that is from the same niche (element and gameplay/rotation) just does the same thing other does but better.
The first case of powecreep for wuwa is not Jinhsi, its XiangliYao which does exactly what Calcharo does but better.
So in my humble opinion powercreep you talked about (Jinhsi's case) in WW is real. But the one with 1.2 Xiangli is real lm
They know you speaks the truth, but they don't want to hear the truth. Because they don't want to think that their favorite is now worthless in the face of the new hotness. These people need to learn to accept it or just quit. This has been a thing with Gacha game since it was invented. Just because the old character went from SSS tier to SS doesn't mean they're worthless. If this is how they act then they never really like the character to begin with. They just love playing top-tier. Nothing wrong with that. Just be honest about it.
I always laugh with I see the, "who cares", commenters. Who cares? They obviously do, since they bother to comment about it. Most of the time they are the ones that was bothered by it the most. Just the mere mention of powercreep will get them red in the face and not listen to any logic after.
The you can't review this game till you beat the entire game was caused by 1 man and that man is tectone. He made the statement to majority of audience that no one can review this game unless they complete it
@@DegenKingYT oh 100%, people listen to tectone and run with whatever he says whenever someone thinks differently never thinking for themselves, In respect to him he has played the zzz launch all himself so far but even he admits the tv’s are too much and the game is being carried by the artstyle and music, we even had a similar rating on the game overall I just think he doesn’t understand the perspective of someone who plays these games 30 minutes to an hour a day at max having to deal with the slugfest early game zzz has for weeks
@@_Gabimaru agree not everyone is going to have the patience of powering through a bad experience for the price a little fun. Not everyone has the time in the day to do so. People time is very valuable especially when we are not sitting on millions of dollars like him. And I agree with you that people are disingenuous with the reality that the tv will always be there because it is laced into the story and commissions.
@@DegenKingYTlast I checked apparently they’re gonna take TVs out but yea, the problem zzz has and the thing I feel like he’s ignoring during this time is that zzz as a combat game doesn’t have enough meat in its combat especially when people are coming off wuwa, combine this with the tv sections being a drag and the fact that people are only allowed to interact with their characters in combat which by this point hoyo community is established to be super casuals who don’t like combat why should those people stay when they’ve seen everything the game has to offer that they’d care about
@@amari7782 I understand what you say and agree with most of what you say. I highly doubt they are going to remove the tv because it is laced in story telling and exploration. And hoyo is known to not walk back anything but just wait out the mob. And we the hardcore players are the minority. That's why majority will say the game is somewhat difficult. And I have played bosses on my phone using 1 thumb in my hand while scrolling on my other phone. I don't think I can do that in genshin or wuthering waves. The combat I agree is not an issue on the players side but the enemies feel like ultra durable punching bags with preset moves that once you figure it out the fight becomes boring. Tv does take too much time because of over yapping and over explaining. The puzzles are easy. The issue many have with the tv is when they are telling key story moments inside the tv and it breaks the immersion like saving the people on the train or saving civilians from the ether. They should at least have cutscenes of saving the people. Can't using my characters outside of combat will hurt their sales because the difference between me pulling for a character and not is being able to play them for 30 seconds. That is bad marketing and it's pointless pulling especially at the moment I have two 4 star team tearing up everything. I have 5 stars but not using them. And the 5 stars look like 4 stars. This hate was caused by them not advertising the game properly so when hardcore players play the game and review it. They are gonna have a more honest no glazed review of the game that it's not for hardcore players. But for the casuals who want to look like they are talented it's hard for them. And there is nothing wrong with that.
@@DegenKingYT you didn’t have to disrespect the game like that. Fighting with one hand while scroll with a different phone is crazy
What I can say to you is Welcome to the internet.
Sadly it's just like you said, lovers gonna love, haters gonna hate. When it comes to these gachas there is no middle ground.
@@MiikiSama yea I gotta get used to this, I just think it’s so bad in gacha that it almost stun locks me every time I read a comment from these people
sunk cost falsity goes brrr in people's mind. speaking from experience
About the power creep yes I believe that Jinhsi is highly powerful than Jiyan.
I have both and my experience playing these two are in different level.
The reason why Jiyan is still in S tier is because no characters other than Jinhsi can beat Jiyans number.
Jiyan has so many techs to be able to keep his Ult per rotation at S0.
Jinhsi however is brain dead team rotation that even without completely attacking the boss, the intro just break the shield 1 and half of rotation.
Jiyan has autoparry but that comes from his Ult and you have to make sure his Ult is up every rotation.
As per JinHsi, she doesn't need to parry, she uses grapple and stays at high elevation accurately hitting enemies without any dps loss, because everytime her dragon breath higs enemies, it time stops/.
The real powercreep here is, Jinhsi able to skip half of boss most deadliest mechanics and take note that Jinhsi has unlimited dash in midair and she can aswell dodge unlimitedly meanwhile Jinyans is still on the ground dodging, parrying, and counter attacking. Not all boss have parry mechanics keep that in mind.
true true, good video actually. I think they are just not understanding your point when you talk about power creep, which you correctly deduced.
i enjoy genshins MAIN STORY, and some of the combat, wuthering waves i enjoy both the combat movement and story, and how they listen to the community and not just china unlike genshin. and also wuwa's devs are know to buff lack luster characters down the line, so even if there is a huge power creep, the devs will buff according, so even if power creep dose happen old characters wont be left behind. i just think its because she's a resnator ,the newest unit, she dosnt out dps the general guy but shes still very good, tho for like a dragon ,they are probably one the same level of arcons cause it sounds like theres going to be other resnators like this, so it makes since to me they would be strong. genshin NEVER bring units up to par and there already is power creep, every game suffers from that, but also wuwa hasn't updated characters yet, and it probably wont happen till maybe a 2.0 update so thats still a wait and see.
but thats besides the point, its true everyone has a bias, my bias is probably more obvious as ive been playing genshin since the start, and all the bad ive seen has stuck to me so when i see withering waves do and say things i like that genshin never dose, free 5 stars, meaningful rewards and compensation (witch makes me go "uh yeah ill probably buy a battle pass to support the devs!"), while im beyond frustrated with the lack of communication or lack of any choice to listen to the community on na side from mihoyo,,,i just automatically think wuwa is better...
Hold your horses.
We don't even know how bad the powercreep will be. Only time will tell and stop being a bootlicker.
Wuwa might go in another direction.
@@arthurgeier2545 bootlicker??? bro, did you not read anything i said? wuwa said it themselfs that they would buff lacking characters, and they have already listened to comunity feedback and the rewards have been far and away compaired to genshin, witch made genshin up there rewards. there was a small bug with a character and they gave us a 10 pull, they would of never have done that otherwise, but now that there's competition, genshin has been giving more rewards, witch is good for the community. im not licking anyones boot, i enjoy wuwa's combat way more then genshins and thats my personal feelings, im not licking there boots and letting myself get stepped on, i say what i like, and ive had my issues with genshin that have fallen on def ears, while i get told to just deal with it by the ACTUAL, genshin bootlickers, its like hating on genshin when you have nothing but wuwa in your bio, i enjoy both genshin and wuwa, i just feel wuwa is better, cause i care about gameplay way more then filler boring story, and not having a skip button drives me crazy... and hoyo STILLL hasnt added a skip button. like im sorry there storys are not that good. but thats me just ranting about a system they refuse to add.
@@Honed-But there are also people who don't play for rewards only. As long as characters don't get powercrept like in a few other games, I can live with a tad less rewards.
Btw, I am not the only one saying this:
Wuwa's combat is more fastpaced and focuses more on dodging/parrying. The combat is mix of MH and DMC.
So it makes up for the poorly written story with flashy combat. People who have a sharp eye can notice right away that acts feel rushed and the world-building requires a rework.
So whenever people say that Wuwa is better than Genshin, they are not becoming clowns but the whole circus.
If I was Rover, I would ask them what the f they want from me and why should I care. Who wrote the story? A teenager? MC is being treated like he is over 9000 special over and over again. Screw that. That is not how you write story. There are levels to that and Wuwa is at the bottom.
Why not make the acts longer by not explaining everything upfront and let players try to figure it out on their own? Why not throw in more filler? And why is there the desire to skip everything? I have not skipped a single dialogue. What is the point of that?
Why even bother going through the story? Just farm echos all day, every day until you cannot look at them anymore.
And then, the world feels bland. I miss GI's vibrant world in Wuwa but at least the combat is flashy.
It is like, people who have never played the games which Kurogames copied the movesets and combat from, went all cult-mode and trying to present this game as the next Genshin-killer.
People love to be the whole circus nowadays 😂
Ill give you an example. I play Tower of Fantasy and the main complaint people bring up is power creep. And yet here i see wu wa having power creep and no 1 minds it. Allso funny thing is i voiced why i prefer tof to wu wa and had this same excuse "ow its a new game and wu wa is better then what tower of fantasy 1.0 was, and im like buddy tof is now in 4.0. Then i get the answer ow wu wa is a new game like constantly shifting the gole post. Like they have to defend their game and trash every other game. Even big content creators like mmo bytes dose this. Im ok with people saying something is bad or they dont like it hell even ill say tof has issues but i have noticed that people in this community tend to insult the competittion like they have a vendetta against it and the people who play it.
The big reason no one is complaining is because jinhsi isn’t really power creeping anyone.
Yes she deals a ton of dmg but because her rotations require more work she ultimately isn’t outperforming anyone
@@amari7782 Its good if thats true. Mostly i hate the double standard here like these people really try to put down any game and its player base if they play a game they personally dont like and shill endlessly about games they like. Thats the main reason why i stopped watching them.
@@zarafex-0923 that part is fair I’m just giving context to the power creep on Wuwa
ive never heard mmobytes say anything bad about the tof community or game that isnt deserved. Also why do you say "And yet here i see wu wa having power creep and no 1 minds it" but then you say when someone tells you otherwise "Its good if thats true". So you make a claim that wuwa has powercreep when you dont even know if it did? Yikes.
@@Aenahea Then you have not paid close attention to it. The guy has on alot of occasion dragged and badmouthed tof. Sometimes even in videos that have nothing to do with tof. I even left a comment expressing this and his answer was "its a meme". And more n more i just see him as arrogant and clickbait so no i dont think he is without bias. As for the wu wa i was wrong on that so that was my bad.
I completely agree, when it comes to the gacha community, people tend to be blind to the honest facts or shit on the facts as they are. Especially since the people who are playing ZZZ are usually Hoyo diehards and tend to think that defending them will get them some type of clout in the dev's eyes. As for the haters, they tend to have a difficulty adjusting to the game and immediatly blame it on the gacha system and call it a pay-to-win scenario. It's not. Anyone who pays for content will certainly be having an easier time, that's the point of Gacha, to pull for stronger characters. But in especially open world games like Genshin and WuWa, you can make ANYONE a DPS with enough time and effort. It feels like people are ignoring what the real point of the game is- to have fun and that sometimes developers are just. Greedy. Wuwa's release put heavy expectations on ZZZ, and imo, from what I've seen, ZZZ has not lived up to them. That said, I've not really seen the game or played it myself.
Great video, you have a new sub from me!
You're also biased cos zzz is hella good
Zzz is sleepfest, TVs and loading screen is literally 80% of the game
@@reign1576how are they biased? They literally said they dont know anything about the game and is just saying why zzz is getting the hate it is from their perspective
@@reign1576 From what I've seen, it's very hyped and the characters have tons of personality. However, the graphics make me feel slightly sick and I don't enjoy the way the game is set up. In addition, I personally can't handle playing multiple Gacha games at once. For me, it's a point to choose what I think will be fun, and ZZZ doesn't live up to my personal ideals. However, that's not to say it isn't a good or bad game. Just like every game, it has its ups and downs.
No one thinks either kek.
You had me until you lied your self. It takes weeks for you to reach level 30? Are you sure of that? It took me 6 days. Also people are not saying that there is no tv at later sequences, we are sayinf that TV gets less intrusive and a lot better. You dony like it, fine, but don't go saying that it takes 20 minutes before a single combat section, becaus ethat is also an outrageous lie. Most of the long TV setments haplen in exploration quests, which focus specifically on TV, not on story
@@bloody4558 I said it’d take weeks for someone who plays casually half an hour to an hour a day to reach 30 which is true, it took me nearly a week to hit 30 and I was bum rushing through quests 3-4 hours a day. Just one or 2 story commissions is already half an hour, also all story commissions have TVs in them as well, the only mode without them are shiyu defense and combat commissions
@_Gabimaru dude Im casual, I play mainly Honkai Impact and Blue Archive, I play HSR, Genshin and Azur Lane and was playing WuWa and now ZZZ I only do like 30 or 40 min for ZZZ and I was already 30 in a bit more than a week just because I do everything and the tv dont take me more that 2 to 3 min when theres story and take a bit more, its just management plus I never lower the dificulty because I like it even if its a bit more challenging from the start
@@_Gabimaru Just tone it down a bit, I understand not everyone likes tv and like I said, I agree with most of your points, this one just stands out to me, as it's an example of what's being criticized. Of course, someone who only plays half an hour would definitely take long to reach it, and i know most players are close to that. I'm a traditional gamer though, I have a few hours to play daily.
That gacha community for yaa just play Dota😅