Oh my gosh! This sounds like everything I went through. I feel so bad for you. I pray that Jesus will heal you. I am so sorry for what you are going through. God bless you always, Patrick.
Really appreciate your sharing the experience of how toxic xanax/ativan feels. Im tapering, and the x never feels good, its always nasty. Keep going Patrick, your going to make it after all you have been through. Hope is very hard, but I believe in you. Being you right now means feeling terrible, so be gentle and kind to yourself.
Thank you so much for this! I guess I never even realized just how bad they felt to take them until now. It truly causes the worst cycle of horror possible. As bad as this still is I’m so thankful to be free of the worst of it! At least, it seems to be that way.
I used Valium to taper off, reducing the dose by 0.25mg every week starting from 25mg. Then I stayed on 5mg for 2 weeks, and another 2 weeks on 0.25mg. I've been off it now for 1 year. Stay strong, man. There's only one thing in life we cannot control; the rest can be sorted out. All the best.
At 12 months off I was having blood pressure spike episodes and had to go the the ER a lot. I went on blood pressure meds. At 20 months I'm starting to reduce the blood pressure meds.
I tapered off Clonazepam from 4mg to 0 just decreasing 0.25 every week. I’ve done this 3 times, feeling nothing during the process (the last one was after 2 and a half years of daily consumption) I must be lucky.
Wow! Yes very lucky! Be very thankful for that. I know many have no issue when coming off but then many of us do. Unfortunately we just have no way of knowing prior to taking them. I had no idea withdrawal was even a possibility when my doctor initially put me on benzos in 2019. If only I’d known….. never would’ve touched them. But, live and learn I guess. Be very thankful you haven’t had to suffer with withdrawal!!
@@Dza231 Because of being a drug addict or having Substance use disorder (SUD). You don’t usually make the best decisions. Fortunately I only struggle with weed, I have a lot of tolerance to benzos, I only take them for sleeping, if I take them during the day I have a lot of probabilities to start feeling paradoxical effects, so I don’t take them recreationally. Plus once I read about Flumazenil I lost fear to benzos.
@@AFE1312so basically you don’t have a problem getting off benzo’s, but you have a problem going back to them. You my friend might be the strangest case I’ve ever heard of. Good luck with the weed😂
It gets better for sure. But its hell for 6+ months. It sucks that Opioid dependency gets all the awareness and interventions. But keep it up! You’ve got many who have made it to the other side. The Ashton Manual protocol for withdrawal does have you switch to valium. Its online free for guidance.
I was on Xanax and valium for a couple of years straight I had to go through 2 weeks of thinking I was dying until my heart felt it was gonna stop beating I went to valium 20mg and started 2 mg reduction every 2 weeks then 10 mg 1mg every 2 weeks then I was able to stop on .5 mg of valium that worked great for me to get off keep going you'll get there mate one day you get up and realize your back to yourself again your close my friend so close well done
They have IV bars!!!! They LITERALLY sit u in a chair and let u pick from different vitamins n stuff or just saline etc and it's like $99 a session!!!!! If fluids help you? I know someone who goes 3 times a day and it's just fluids in the morning and some kind of vitamin B relaxation thing.
before i tapered off id read stuff that said ' i cant even describe the horror '....and yeah...i cant either !...but somehow, you dont die and make it through...
Yep. That pretty much sums it up. No idea how we survive the levels of horror we go through but apparently we do. I know I still have a very long way to go in my healing process but at least I’m able to see signs of it! A year ago I never would’ve believed for a second I’d ever improve at all. Yet, here I am. Slowly improving. It’s pure torture but if anything I think it shows we’re tougher than we realize!
@Patricksbenzowithdrawal best thing I ever did...I dont regret going on benzo's...they did save my life ...but after 7 years of daily use ( got up to around 20mg a day of valium )..I knew I didn't need them anymore...I found titration really slowly worked with a doctor closely monitoring me really helped....I was dropping 0.1 mg at some stages( got it in liquid form) usually I could handle .05 mg drops but there was moments of pure terror here and there...clonidine helped alot too..and I found if it got too bad I would increase my dose for a day just to get a break...its no race...as long as overall mg amount is steadily going down. keeping busy helped too...as a born worrier I would ruminate on how I was feeling which of course fueled anxiety....something work related...not an activity I would usually enjoy as it would remind me how shit I felt..an activity I didn't enjoy...like work would just basically kill time until next dose...I would feel worse laying around in bed although I did gave to at times....it got easier after going down to 4 mg as I think once your gaba receptors start to grow back it they continue maybe quicker?...everyone is different though....I would stay at say 5 mg until I had no weird brain shit and felt normal.. could be 2 weeks ...could be 4 ....but I remember dropping to about 2 mg and feeling normal.within days....down to 1.5 mg ....no bad days...feel.a little off....but it got better for me...whatever works for you...its not a race....best of luck
Have you ever tried low dose propanolol? From what you’re describing it sounds like propanolol would work wonders for you. You really need to try this. I would almost guarantee it will help. It will definitely cut down on your hospital trips💯.
@@sarahperks8226 Hoping you get a prescription. It’s very safe and works well. After my horrible experiences with antidepressants and Benzos this is the only thing I would even consider taking. Take a minute and read the reviews on this drug. I think you’ll be pleased with the reviews. Let me know what happens.
Hello Sears, I used a beta blocker for a few months in 2017-2018, it didn’t help me. It may help others, I know it helped a friend of mine but she’s on so many psyche meds. It could be worth a try, for relief, then Patrick may have to wean off that. I’m not sure whether it’ll work for long term use.
Oh i feel for you so much. Ive struggled with panic attacks and severevanxiety since a young teen. I cant imagine getting off them, or being without. God bless you. I take clonazepam, and it is so much better as far as addiction and tolerance. You could take several and it would not intensify the results. So i am actually on less for 2 years now, then the 15 years I was seeing my psychiatrist. I was on Valiun when 1st diagnosed and it has a nasty half life, not to mention growing tolerance. I was in Ativan yhe longest, but i litterally became immube to it i took for so long. I'm so sorry you are going through all this.
Thank you! I have some half decent days and some off days but still have a lot of healing to do. But not as horrific as I’ve had in the past thank God! And also yes, I’m VERY thankful to have good insurance! I have no idea what I’d do if I didn’t. Terrifying thought I have is losing my good insurance. That’s a constant fear in the back of my mind
Thank you for saying this! It really does help to know that others can see an improvement also. Helps validate that maybe I am actually healing. Thank you!!
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal Been watching you for a long while my friend. One year ago on May 11th I was in the hospital in withdrawal. long story short I did a short taper and jumped off on June 3rd 2023. I am currently doing ok. I was on 20-30 mg a day of valium for 15-20 years. One thing I can assure you, you're going to be ok. I had to keep telling myself this and still do. Keep up the content. You look much better.
I've been using bso for about 3 months. It doesn't help at all. I actually started it because a few friends said it would help my allergies. Maybe it is, but also I know the air purifier is helping b
I know when i lost my bottle of Xanax years ago it was horrible. It was like i was on a bad trip. I started having convulsions and vomiting if i sat up. If i laid down the room just keep spinning bad. I thought I was gonna die. 3 days later a friend found my bottle. Thats when i got off Xanax and on Clonazepam.
Doctor gave me seroquen and things got worse for ! I had stroke symptoms my whole right side of my body went numb. I was sure I was having a stroke it was just an adverse reaction to Seroquen (quentiapan) not sure how it’s spelled. That was just one of my hospital trips this week.
Try to keep their heart rate under control my friend I know someone who was only 25 and was going to the same thing as you then one day end up having cardiac arrest
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal it’s crazy your getting sutch intense withdrawals from the cut still,.I went 10mg to 9mg on Thursday,.3 days of hellish withdrawals,but bit better today,Started from 30mg in January,.I it’s truly a mental rollercoaster getting of this crap.
I’m sorry you’re suffering as well. I truly believe it wouldn’t have been as bad for me if I’d been on Valium from the start. The Xanax dose I was on was equal to just over 80mg Valium equivalent. Combine that high dose with the fact Xanax is so short acting I think it really just caused a lot of destabilization from the start that I likely would’ve never had if I’d switched to Valium at the start of the taper instead of a year and a half into it. The Valium is definitely still very miserable. But nothing even close to as bad as trying to taper Xanax
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal quick question if you have the time for it. I Finally find a good doctor that understands benzos withdrawal but the only thing I’m not sure about is that she wants to put me straight onto Valium from Xanax without slowly going over. Does that work or is it dangerous? Again sorry for the question I know you have a tough time and i wish you the best brother!
For withdrawal and healing that is correct. All they can really do is additional meds which I do not want. The reason I’ve gone there so frequently is the heart symptoms become terrifying. IV fluids tend to help with my heart rate. It helps to have the reassurance that my heart is still OK going through so much. Getting the blood tests and ECGs run as well as IV fluids help me
Yeah I’ve had a couple of times they use “lactated ringers” but usually it’s just normal saline. The general thought is the heart symptoms specifically are due to POTS which I know can be pretty common during withdrawal. I usually try to eat a high sodium diet now and keep well hydrated which tends to help. It was an adjustment because I don’t like salt🤢 but it definitely helps. It’s just in times my hydration gets low or I’m not taking in enough sodium I get those bad symptoms and then the IV bags help. I’m really hoping that symptom fully resolves sooner rather than later… I never had any problems like that before withdrawal. But I know POTS specifically isn’t at all uncommon through this
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal many people have heart palpitations that are not related to anxiety. I have them and its due to having a mitral valve that doesn't work correctly in my heart. But seriously talk to you Doctor about a Beta Blocker. AND start drinking Pedialyte. Its the same thing that's in the IV bag to rehydrate you and will also help with heart palps. Started Xanax 10 years ago 4mg a day when my 25 year old died during a Surgery. Added Cymbalta at 60 mg 4 years ago. Changed from Xanax to Klonopin 3 MG a day when I started he Cymbalta. I thought I was going to "Turkey" it. YeaaaaahNOpe. Tapering myself for a year now. I am down to 20 mg of Cymbalta and 1 mg of Klononpin a day. I am 62 years old. I may never be all the way off but its still my goals. I refuse to feel withdrawal so I will go as slow as I need to. Everyone just keep on tapering at a pace that you can handle. Everyone is different. If you would have told me that you can Turkey off of Heroin in 5 days of hell and be done with it, I would have laughed at you. Benzo's have a place in world but they are overprescribed, used for too long and is a dr's easy way out of listening to you talk about anxiety. I'm glad we are tapering because at some point these drugs are not going to be available. I believe that a lot of people who are not tapering properly are the ones going off the rails, killings their families and such. SAD WORLD it is. Thank God for all of you who can get in front of a Camera and break it down in front of the world. Wish I had the guts to do that. You are awesome sauce lol
@@SndyOr Are you on Cymbalta (SNRI) and Klonopin at the same time? If so...when you taper off the Cymbalta keep in mind that 1mg of Klonopin is very potent and a 50% reduction is fairly large. Not to discourage you but I have been tapering from 1mg of Klonopin only and it has come with the usual difficult effects. Just concerned that you don't taper too fast. Take care.
I wouldn’t take that, either, not at all! Sugar is extremely harmful, especially, for anxiety. Try to stay away from sugar. It causes so many problems.
Damn pat, bad hit. I'm down to .5mg witch is super good for me but now it's getting hard. Waited till 4pm yesterday to dose but today not feeling so swell so gonna have to take it earlier but no more then .5mg xanax a day
Hey pat, seeing how your the only benzo channel I follow just wanted to say I got down to .5mg xanax a day. Was at 60mg a year ago, got down to 15mg then 2mg then got stuck at .5mg but doctors just switched me over to lorazapam 1mg twice daily. I've never felt anything on lorazapam so I'm kind of nervous, you think if I cut to .25 xanax with the lorazapam then slowly cutting out the xanax, I don't want to abuse anything just not be sick you know? Think I'm gonna start tomorrow. I also have some research Chem benzos slightly less potent then xan so should I switch to something less potent with the lorazapam and slowly cut the rc? Love following your journey man, were in this together lol. Slightly different but still both are trying to get off of it after years of use. I started with flubro and clonazolam both 5x stronger then alprazolam measured in ug like lsd instead of mg cause that's how potent they were. You think if I stop the .5xanax and just switch to the lorazapam I'll be fine? They gave me anti seizure meds too
Oh my gosh! This sounds like everything I went through. I feel so bad for you. I pray that Jesus will heal you. I am so sorry for what you are going through. God bless you always, Patrick.
Really appreciate your sharing the experience of how toxic xanax/ativan feels. Im tapering, and the x never feels good, its always nasty. Keep going Patrick, your going to make it after all you have been through. Hope is very hard, but I believe in you. Being you right now means feeling terrible, so be gentle and kind to yourself.
Thank you so much for this! I guess I never even realized just how bad they felt to take them until now. It truly causes the worst cycle of horror possible. As bad as this still is I’m so thankful to be free of the worst of it! At least, it seems to be that way.
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawalhow is ur dp dr
I used Valium to taper off, reducing the dose by 0.25mg every week starting from 25mg. Then I stayed on 5mg for 2 weeks, and another 2 weeks on 0.25mg. I've been off it now for 1 year. Stay strong, man. There's only one thing in life we cannot control; the rest can be sorted out. All the best.
At 12 months off I was having blood pressure spike episodes and had to go the the ER a lot.
I went on blood pressure meds. At 20 months I'm starting to reduce the blood pressure meds.
I tapered off Clonazepam from 4mg to 0 just decreasing 0.25 every week. I’ve done this 3 times, feeling nothing during the process (the last one was after 2 and a half years of daily consumption) I must be lucky.
Wow! Yes very lucky! Be very thankful for that. I know many have no issue when coming off but then many of us do. Unfortunately we just have no way of knowing prior to taking them. I had no idea withdrawal was even a possibility when my doctor initially put me on benzos in 2019. If only I’d known….. never would’ve touched them. But, live and learn I guess. Be very thankful you haven’t had to suffer with withdrawal!!
I prayed over you. Keep going and stay close to the word of God. Salvation and peace over you in Jesus name and for His glory.
Why did you have to do it 3 times if it wasn’t a problem? Why not just quit after the first time?
@@Dza231 Because of being a drug addict or having Substance use disorder (SUD). You don’t usually make the best decisions. Fortunately I only struggle with weed, I have a lot of tolerance to benzos, I only take them for sleeping, if I take them during the day I have a lot of probabilities to start feeling paradoxical effects, so I don’t take them recreationally. Plus once I read about Flumazenil I lost fear to benzos.
@@AFE1312so basically you don’t have a problem getting off benzo’s, but you have a problem going back to them. You my friend might be the strangest case I’ve ever heard of. Good luck with the weed😂
Prayers for you Patrick 🙏stay strong ! You got this !
Thank you so much!!
Sharing your story is so valuable!
Thank you so much for sharing your story... I have been following you thru it all. ❤
It gets better for sure.
But its hell for 6+ months.
It sucks that Opioid dependency gets all the awareness and interventions.
But keep it up! You’ve got many who have made it to the other side.
The Ashton Manual protocol for withdrawal does have you switch to valium. Its online free for guidance.
I was on Xanax and valium for a couple of years straight I had to go through 2 weeks of thinking I was dying until my heart felt it was gonna stop beating I went to valium 20mg and started 2 mg reduction every 2 weeks then 10 mg 1mg every 2 weeks then I was able to stop on .5 mg of valium that worked great for me to get off keep going you'll get there mate one day you get up and realize your back to yourself again your close my friend so close well done
They have IV bars!!!! They LITERALLY sit u in a chair and let u pick from different vitamins n stuff or just saline etc and it's like $99 a session!!!!! If fluids help you? I know someone who goes 3 times a day and it's just fluids in the morning and some kind of vitamin B relaxation thing.
Everywhere no? Florida for sure California and Texas... It's everywhere. Look it up. Maybe it's not idk. I've known about it for a few years now...
before i tapered off id read stuff that said ' i cant even describe the horror '....and yeah...i cant either !...but somehow, you dont die and make it through...
Yep. That pretty much sums it up. No idea how we survive the levels of horror we go through but apparently we do. I know I still have a very long way to go in my healing process but at least I’m able to see signs of it! A year ago I never would’ve believed for a second I’d ever improve at all. Yet, here I am. Slowly improving. It’s pure torture but if anything I think it shows we’re tougher than we realize!
@Patricksbenzowithdrawal best thing I ever did...I dont regret going on benzo's...they did save my life ...but after 7 years of daily use ( got up to around 20mg a day of valium )..I knew I didn't need them anymore...I found titration really slowly worked with a doctor closely monitoring me really helped....I was dropping 0.1 mg at some stages( got it in liquid form) usually I could handle .05 mg drops but there was moments of pure terror here and there...clonidine helped alot too..and I found if it got too bad I would increase my dose for a day just to get a break...its no race...as long as overall mg amount is steadily going down. keeping busy helped too...as a born worrier I would ruminate on how I was feeling which of course fueled anxiety....something work related...not an activity I would usually enjoy as it would remind me how shit I felt..an activity I didn't enjoy...like work would just basically kill time until next dose...I would feel worse laying around in bed although I did gave to at times....it got easier after going down to 4 mg as I think once your gaba receptors start to grow back it they continue maybe quicker?...everyone is different though....I would stay at say 5 mg until I had no weird brain shit and felt normal..
could be 2 weeks ...could be 4 ....but I remember dropping to about 2 mg and feeling normal.within days....down to 1.5 mg ....no bad days...feel.a little off....but it got better for me...whatever works for you...its not a race....best of luck
You are a warrior. Keep going
Have you ever tried low dose propanolol? From what you’re describing it sounds like propanolol would work wonders for you. You really need to try this. I would almost guarantee it will help. It will definitely cut down on your hospital trips💯.
Clonidine helps me just took .01 now my hearts under control
Hi my mental health team are trying to get my Dr to prescribe me propanol ❤
@@sarahperks8226 Hoping you get a prescription. It’s very safe and works well. After my horrible experiences with antidepressants and Benzos this is the only thing I would even consider taking. Take a minute and read the reviews on this drug. I think you’ll be pleased with the reviews. Let me know what happens.
Hello Sears, I used a beta blocker for a few months in 2017-2018, it didn’t help me. It may help others, I know it helped a friend of mine but she’s on so many psyche meds. It could be worth a try, for relief, then Patrick may have to wean off that. I’m not sure whether it’ll work for long term use.
@@SalwaSamraSorry it didn’t work for you. It was a lifesaver for me,
Prayers coming your 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻. 👍
Prayers for you today 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Oh i feel for you so much. Ive struggled with panic attacks and severevanxiety since a young teen. I cant imagine getting off them, or being without. God bless you. I take clonazepam, and it is so much better as far as addiction and tolerance. You could take several and it would not intensify the results. So i am actually on less for 2 years now, then the 15 years I was seeing my psychiatrist. I was on Valiun when 1st diagnosed and it has a nasty half life, not to mention growing tolerance.
I was in Ativan yhe longest, but i litterally became immube to it i took for so long. I'm so sorry you are going through all this.
You must have good insurance ???!!! Hope you’re feeling alright !!❤
Thank you! I have some half decent days and some off days but still have a lot of healing to do. But not as horrific as I’ve had in the past thank God! And also yes, I’m VERY thankful to have good insurance! I have no idea what I’d do if I didn’t. Terrifying thought I have is losing my good insurance. That’s a constant fear in the back of my mind
I’m going thru benzo withdrawal also
Ive had 3 heart attacks (everyhing good niw) . But a panic attack is so much worse than any geart attack.
Really?
You seem better. I see an improvement from the beginning.
Thank you for saying this! It really does help to know that others can see an improvement also. Helps validate that maybe I am actually healing. Thank you!!
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal Been watching you for a long while my friend. One year ago on May 11th I was in the hospital in withdrawal. long story short I did a short taper and jumped off on June 3rd 2023. I am currently doing ok. I was on 20-30 mg a day of valium for 15-20 years.
One thing I can assure you, you're going to be ok. I had to keep telling myself this and still do.
Keep up the content. You look much better.
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawalyes I see it too!
If you dont mind Patrick I am going share your channel!
Have you tried black seed oil and glycine for gaba health and restore and both lower anxiety along with other things.
I've been using bso for about 3 months. It doesn't help at all. I actually started it because a few friends said it would help my allergies. Maybe it is, but also I know the air purifier is helping b
Good job man!!!
I know when i lost my bottle of Xanax years ago it was horrible. It was like i was on a bad trip. I started having convulsions and vomiting if i sat up. If i laid down the room just keep spinning bad. I thought I was gonna die. 3 days later a friend found my bottle. Thats when i got off Xanax and on Clonazepam.
Doctor gave me seroquen and things got worse for ! I had stroke symptoms my whole right side of my body went numb. I was sure I was having a stroke it was just an adverse reaction to Seroquen (quentiapan) not sure how it’s spelled. That was just one of my hospital trips this week.
🕊💞🕯🌱🙏
Potassium/magnesium/salts....saline
What type of fluids did they use on you?
Paradoxical effect from the Ativan , it being short acting . Hope you get over it soon , whats your Valium dose now ? If you don't mind ,
How long you use benzo???
I only used clodidine
Try to keep their heart rate under control my friend I know someone who was only 25 and was going to the same thing as you then one day end up having cardiac arrest
Did you make a recent cut or somet bud
Last cut was around 2 weeks ago from 5.5 mg Valium down to 5mg. Planning to cut down to 4.5 mg in the next few days!
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal it’s crazy your getting sutch intense withdrawals from the cut still,.I went 10mg to 9mg on Thursday,.3 days of hellish withdrawals,but bit better today,Started from 30mg in January,.I it’s truly a mental rollercoaster getting of this crap.
@@Dji2stellar-Cdid you cut 10 mg to 9 on diazepam? Because I heard you stay pretty stable if you do it slowly with that
I’m sorry you’re suffering as well. I truly believe it wouldn’t have been as bad for me if I’d been on Valium from the start. The Xanax dose I was on was equal to just over 80mg Valium equivalent. Combine that high dose with the fact Xanax is so short acting I think it really just caused a lot of destabilization from the start that I likely would’ve never had if I’d switched to Valium at the start of the taper instead of a year and a half into it. The Valium is definitely still very miserable. But nothing even close to as bad as trying to taper Xanax
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal quick question if you have the time for it. I Finally find a good doctor that understands benzos withdrawal but the only thing I’m not sure about is that she wants to put me straight onto Valium from Xanax without slowly going over. Does that work or is it dangerous? Again sorry for the question I know you have a tough time and i wish you the best brother!
How are u climb
Bro be in my next video!!
Yes but hospital cant do much
For withdrawal and healing that is correct. All they can really do is additional meds which I do not want. The reason I’ve gone there so frequently is the heart symptoms become terrifying. IV fluids tend to help with my heart rate. It helps to have the reassurance that my heart is still OK going through so much. Getting the blood tests and ECGs run as well as IV fluids help me
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal that's gd to hear..did u ask them what drip they give u? Is it saline?
Yeah I’ve had a couple of times they use “lactated ringers” but usually it’s just normal saline. The general thought is the heart symptoms specifically are due to POTS which I know can be pretty common during withdrawal. I usually try to eat a high sodium diet now and keep well hydrated which tends to help. It was an adjustment because I don’t like salt🤢 but it definitely helps. It’s just in times my hydration gets low or I’m not taking in enough sodium I get those bad symptoms and then the IV bags help. I’m really hoping that symptom fully resolves sooner rather than later… I never had any problems like that before withdrawal. But I know POTS specifically isn’t at all uncommon through this
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal many people have heart palpitations that are not related to anxiety. I have them and its due to having a mitral valve that doesn't work correctly in my heart. But seriously talk to you Doctor about a Beta Blocker. AND start drinking Pedialyte. Its the same thing that's in the IV bag to rehydrate you and will also help with heart palps. Started Xanax 10 years ago 4mg a day when my 25 year old died during a Surgery. Added Cymbalta at 60 mg 4 years ago. Changed from Xanax to Klonopin 3 MG a day when I started he Cymbalta. I thought I was going to "Turkey" it. YeaaaaahNOpe. Tapering myself for a year now. I am down to 20 mg of Cymbalta and 1 mg of Klononpin a day. I am 62 years old. I may never be all the way off but its still my goals. I refuse to feel withdrawal so I will go as slow as I need to. Everyone just keep on tapering at a pace that you can handle. Everyone is different. If you would have told me that you can Turkey off of Heroin in 5 days of hell and be done with it, I would have laughed at you. Benzo's have a place in world but they are overprescribed, used for too long and is a dr's easy way out of listening to you talk about anxiety. I'm glad we are tapering because at some point these drugs are not going to be available. I believe that a lot of people who are not tapering properly are the ones going off the rails, killings their families and such. SAD WORLD it is. Thank God for all of you who can get in front of a Camera and break it down in front of the world. Wish I had the guts to do that. You are awesome sauce lol
@@SndyOr Are you on Cymbalta (SNRI) and Klonopin at the same time? If so...when you taper off the Cymbalta keep in mind that 1mg of Klonopin is very potent and a 50% reduction is fairly large. Not to discourage you but I have been tapering from 1mg of Klonopin only and it has come with the usual difficult effects. Just concerned that you don't taper too fast. Take care.
When your heart rate goes up drink Sugar water. 12 teaspoons in a water bottle. It will help just like the I.V.
I don't know who told you that but you're dead wrong
I wouldn’t take that, either, not at all! Sugar is extremely harmful, especially, for anxiety. Try to stay away from sugar. It causes so many problems.
What seems to be the problem occifer?
What was your heart rate 180...... lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky you didn't go in a cardiac arrest
Damn pat, bad hit. I'm down to .5mg witch is super good for me but now it's getting hard. Waited till 4pm yesterday to dose but today not feeling so swell so gonna have to take it earlier but no more then .5mg xanax a day
Hey pat, seeing how your the only benzo channel I follow just wanted to say I got down to .5mg xanax a day. Was at 60mg a year ago, got down to 15mg then 2mg then got stuck at .5mg but doctors just switched me over to lorazapam 1mg twice daily. I've never felt anything on lorazapam so I'm kind of nervous, you think if I cut to .25 xanax with the lorazapam then slowly cutting out the xanax, I don't want to abuse anything just not be sick you know? Think I'm gonna start tomorrow. I also have some research Chem benzos slightly less potent then xan so should I switch to something less potent with the lorazapam and slowly cut the rc? Love following your journey man, were in this together lol. Slightly different but still both are trying to get off of it after years of use. I started with flubro and clonazolam both 5x stronger then alprazolam measured in ug like lsd instead of mg cause that's how potent they were. You think if I stop the .5xanax and just switch to the lorazapam I'll be fine? They gave me anti seizure meds too