@@blackmagik363 I would read your book but I don't need it to answer the question who created Hip Hop. You don't have to go deep for the Subject matter. Like who is the Original Man. You ever heard of a Book called a Message to the Blackman in America? Enough said.
FBA was invented to describe a group of people, just like Racist Eugenicists introduced the word BLACK (an adjective) to identify a particular group of people
Griff just doesn't want to give any credit to Tariq Nasheed for the Microphone Check documentary because Tariq cooked him and his then girlfriend a few years ago. Get over it Griff.
Yes. It’s sad right? It’s a big conversation because everyone wants in. It wouldn’t be a problem recognizing everyone else’s contribution if everyone else was so racist against us and wanted to steal so much from us culturally. But because the agenda is always to minimize the black contribution to black s$$t, we have to stand firm and reclaim. I totally agree with you.
my parents are from Jamaica l was born in England . the origin of hip hop music started with black American people because it came from blues jazz soul funk mixing and scratching sampling the oldies and the dancing you only see from 1920s 1930s 1940s 1950s 1960s breaking dancing rapping james brown was the most sampled with two turntables then the arrivuel of drum machines 🥁 synthersizers sample the Jamaican added 10% other races of people got involved when they seen fun and power of the music but didn't want to struggle and suffer what black people's issues for freedom and justice and equality that's why their no real black and brown coalition because they only want to use us to get were they need go and pretend they did it by themselves
I’m from the UK too of Caribbean heritage and agree 1000% it was Black Americans who started it, growing up listening to HipHop all the original artist were Black, and I can attest for a fact Black Americans created HipHop and ALL the elements of it!!! Yes some Caribbean ppl entered the culture as we can relate to our American cousins but it’s always been their thing! Your so called Hispanics got involved because they had similar life experiences that helped them affiliate and assimilate into it. Then came the oppressed whites who also felt the struggle and joined in. But it’s a black thing. Just because the others study it and master it doesn’t make it theirs!!!
The main ingredient of our supreme talent, that Brother Professor Griff is missing, is the centuries of unique pressurized trauma and terror under Caucasians that no one else on the Planet could endure and fight. A fight we are still engaged. African music almost was slap happy and bouncy. Caribbean and Puerto Rican also. Our pain is reflected in our Delta Blues, etc... We had a hostile enemy every step we took and thereby had something to rap about. After Colonialism Africans we fighting each other. The others emulate and copy us. Jamaicans had talent because some of us were settled there after the Revolutionary War under the British, that we fought with to be free from Americans.
@bronfree6503 Griff is lying so he's going to be called what he is by me, a liar. I'm from the DELTA I know where all the music come from. Some of my people help create some of this music that went around the world. Every GENRE of MUSIC proceeded each other and dances always formed from that. Don't ever allow them to take what our ANCESTORS created out of nothing but their natural talent. They made guitars out of window screen wire. Africans couldn't do what we do on their best day. They got everything they are doing for BLACK AMERICANS just like everyone else! It's looks like people are getting paid to lie.
@msrubie11 All African music isn't happy and bouncy. Music from the Sahel and Sahara region is pretty bluesy. It's theorized that African American slaves descended from Sahelian West Africa are who primarily created Blues music. They were the primary creators of early Country music too.
The movie Microphone Check shuts all this Caribbean & Africans help creates HiP Hop BS down. The true pioneers have spoken. Griff needs to sit down and do more research.
Guff is not an historian of hip hop clearly. Also giff spoke like a man who has relationships with women, of different cultures. Normally blk ppl like this, wanna all live matters Blk Culture..
I respectfully disagree. Griff understands Black culture is connected to the African experience. Learn what ethnicity is because Black is not one of them. Also research the Gullah Geechie community, the offspring of enslaved Africans brought to the US, who have no problem acknowledging their African heritage.
@@dzion guff trying to sale books and don't wanna mess up that money. Especially not having know backing by corporate sponsors. I get the hustle but stop with the lies.
This is good for Black Americans. We can finally see who’s on our side and delineate who’s against us. Professor Griff now added to the list with Krs, F Joe, Pete Rock, Busta Rhymes
Griff lost me with africa, i never seen anybody doing the harlem shake or bank head bounce in any of the Shaka Zulu movie series lol this pan african ideology got us giving away everything we made to other people who dont give us nothing.
It's one way...one doesn't even have to travel to the continent to see that. Separate enclaves, leading with tribe and nationality over "we are all African/black"
He said it is a creation of black Americans but because you cannot understand nor hear and your hatred for other groups of blacks blinds you, you have lost your intelligence like your guru Tariq Nasheed. He just recalled our DNA (Africa) and said that it is in us, that does not mean that Hip Hop is not a creation of black Americans.
@@cortlandsimmons6241 Black Americans had zilch to do with hiphop. Be specific NYers started and created hiphop culture and music. Some had american parents, some had carribean but im old enough to remember once you got past philly rest of america was country bunpkins ao stop the lies beimg spread on internet and revionist history. The south or outside of NY actually ruined what was created in NYC. I remember seeing rappers perform down south when i went to college. Coming from ny it was normal in nc it was like aliens to them . They were like croatians watching usa basketball 92 😆😆 so now you got euro players all over the league . Hiphop is everywhere but it started in ny by nyers some black aome black wit carrribean lineage .
English in not their native tongue......Come on folks! Grown the fcuk up and stop this infantile thinking. Have your ever heard the flow of an Muslim African at prayer?
The conversation about who started hip hop is crazy. At this point it doesn’t need to be talked about. It’s common sense that hip hop came from black American culture end of story. Anyone saying otherwise is LYING
No disrespect to Griff but since he said it’s an elementary conversation about Africa and our origins I have to say he has no clue what he’s talking about. Hes telling us what he thinks but he really has no real knowledge on it. If he did he would be babbling through the question
This ain't even up for discussion. EVERYONE knows the ORIGIN, and thus, the CULTURE was strictly Black American. We cringed when they tried to add Jamaican or any other culture to OUR culture.
@DelanoEl They are trying to lie for Puerto Ricans, Latinos, and Africans and they are ALSO GUESTS. Now they're not even that. It's about all of you'all GET OUT!
I myself am from Brooklyn of Panamanian Parentage and of Jamaican descent. That said, regarding this topic, as a man born in 1967, I have witnessed plenty. My family, culture and I have always loved our Latin, Caribbean music. But when it comes the music we called rap and the culture we call Hip Hop, from my lenses, I must say Black Americsns put it down first no question.. Although peeps from the Caribbean were there during part of the Genesis, we were infuenced by the folkways and moreys of rap language from my Black Americans brothers and Sistas through my lenses. Yes, us Caribbean/Latin peeps added some of our own flava in Hip Hop, like Black Disco, Funk and R &B, Lord Jamar is correct. Should be no conflict honestly, we colored folk all over the America's cotributed something special. Funky Four plus 1 is one of my All time favorites. Honestly, this subject was never discussed back during those times. Very dissapointed with this divide we are having. I think Busta Rhymes needs a mic check on this one, although he is my brethren.
@Pabana8009 I understand he is your brethern, but he's shown he's not ours. We allowed him in our HOUSE and he violated a CODE of TREACHERY that Black Americans/FBA/FREEDMEN people who descend for the enslaved in the U.S. can't and will never forgive. To attempt to take ONE'S CULTURE is the start to completely ERASURE. I don't remember not one group who immigrated into this country for the Caribbean, Latin America nor Africa giving us anything. It was us that paved the way and allowed other groups among us. It is our CULTURAL INFLUENCE that made this INVADER a life it wouldn't have in the Caribbean. He can NEVER come back and nor can others who cosigned this lie for their CRUMBS and 30 PIECES of SILVER. The subject didn't have to be discussed, no group who came here CREATED any BLACK AMERICAN MUSIC GENRE. If you immigrate to Asia or the middle east and start singing their music one day, and have a hit. Did you CREATE their MUSIC?
Black Americans are indigenous to this land. We are finding out more and more that they took our land and took our identity from us. A lot of the dances that he is speaking of are tribal type dances. We had tribes here in America American indigenous Indian black tribes. We're not going for that Africa stuff no more because black indigenous Americans are not from Africa.
@WWEFAN12505 He doesn't know the history of music in their country and he certainly don't know the HISTORY of the Blues. When he stated they made guitar strings out of vines, it solidified he is not versed in the History of music in Black America. He doesn't know basic information. I didn't hear his vast knowledge. I heard a lot of generalization about Africa and side stepping every time he was challenged with facts. I've found too much information to prove this is an AGENDA and they are going after ALL our GENERE'S of MUSIC in order to spread it among Africans and others including MEXICANS so they and those who sponsor them can continue to make money off our cultures while we are being pushed out of our own CULTURE and HISTORY. Tariq did the right thing, I'm glad FBA/FREEDMEN supported it. Now it's time to bring the people front and center telling the LIES and shine a light on them for the world to see. WE MUST do what they did for us, they protected us with their lives, we can protect their and our LEGACY for our next generation. Black American MUSIC is GLOBAL, and the world know we got nothing from Africa. Any group willing to dispute that don't deserve to be in our presence and certainly must exist our culture. I believe in BOYCOTTS, if you're lying your skin color means nothing. I'll BOYCOTT your hot dog cart, if need be. Leave the DELTA and Black American Music ALONE, real talk! If Griff don't respect us, I don't respect Griff! Griff didn't feed and raise me, the people in the DELTA did.
Professor Griff was the first to open my eyes on the true workings of the industry back In 2010.Before Katt Williams and Jaguar Wright there was Professor Griff‼️💯🙏🏽
Yeah I feel like this interview should’ve been about that, although I believe they did have an interview about that and do to certain attacks on the brother he had stop talking about certain things. There still are the books though 🫡.
Griff is my brother, but he seems to forget that the true and living God is here. We ( FBA, Black Freedmen ) are the chosen ones to bring this planet back to it righteous state. This is why rest can not create like us.
@@internetboogeyman2744 Thanks, I was just being rhetorical. a lot of people , jamar included, want to pigeonhole it to music. I noticed jamar was trying to downplay breakin and graffiti in other videos.
He just gave out whole heritage to Africa I disagree we are not Africans We are Americans. We never came here we were already here. America is the true motherland.
When hip hop was created, none of them knew they were creating hip hop, its was the vibes at the time when something was created and happen, and that made everyone feels good, and our American brothers put the real and original final touch to it and that when it became a living thing that shook the whole world up.
I watched the Founding Fathers Of Hip Hop Doc a dozen times to get a full understanding but my question to Griff is what did Grand Master Flowers playing on 2 turn table's in 1968 in Yankee stadium before Kool Herc even started had to do with Africa???
Any people who think they created hip hop simply needs to prove it with historical context and culture like brotha tariq nasheed did. Where r the last poets and gil scott herons of the other cultures claiming they created it. Thats like saying rock n roll originated with elvis.
The Nuyorican Poet's Cafe was founded in 1973. Hip-hop was an urban (brown/black) experience. I knew plenty of suburban/"country"/island-born browns/blacks that had no idea of what was naturally understood by the Urban, Northeast communities. We (together) influenced each other in a time before commercialization where our incredible talents for ingenuity, creativity, and originally were celebrated... TOGETHER.
I’m FBA and I created Mariachi, dancehall, & salsa 💃, Since Griff said that we were all dropped off in different locations during the middle passage slavery.
Because we came here way before they came here. The people describe who came in contact with the native in America was dark skin with gold tipped spears. Look at the Olmec statues the are in the image of west African explorers. Some of us just stayed here.
Busta Rhymes said Black Americans got hip hop from Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans because we didn't have any culture of our own so we had to follow them. He also said that Black Americans in the 80s got there style of dress from Puerto Ricans 😂
Griff, respectfully never demonstrated that Africans created Hip Hop. Up till this day Africans still can't rap, DJ, B.Boy, pop/break, beat box, do graffiti art. The only thing Griff demonstrated is irritation and attitude. 4% of the total amount of slaves were brought to America, the amount is anything from 43,000 - 90,000 slaves. The so called African slaves was probably less than 2% of black people who were already in the Americas, how would 2% of Africans have any affect on the total? Griff sounds like KRS1 the only difference between the two, KRS1 claims Puerta Ricans and Jamaicans rcreated Hip Hop and Griff claims Africans created Hip Hop. Griff still thinks we all came from Africa!! Hopefully, this backward way of thinking dyes out completely.
How many folk do you think were in usa at the start, not many whites were actually there first after the mongols, then it was free blacks from the Caribbean who as it happens were also slave master and very wealthy, it was after independence that the whites decided all black should enslaved that’s they started importing more blacks first from Caribbean then Africa, you black Americans come from African lineage, after 400 years your no longer your only African by race not ethnicity.
That's a bullshyte ass answer about why we are the one's who say African American and no one else say it only American but the shyte is changing no more African bullshyte.
Naw, i disagree with Professor Griff. Too many people talk about how we have no culture. Yet, when we set the trend, only then did they want to claim our history. When we prove that we have culture, they are quick to disregard how we made it popular and acceptable in society. They hate to give us credit because it fit the narrative that we have no culture. It's past time to claim our culture.
Griff explaining this, is exactly the reason why we are in this controversy today, because his era didn't gatekeep hip hop like they should have, and this is a lesson for generations moving forward. Griffs era let everyone in Hip Hop shared it all with the if you Black wee all the same mentality and it incentived outsiders of our culture to then claim they had a hand in creating it.
What he’s saying just doesn’t make sense. It was impossible for us to take influence from Africa or anywhere else when we had no contact whatsoever with them. Africans and Jamaicans were very few and spread out when we were growing up. They took their influences from us. Let us be reminded that hip hop and every element began far beyond the 70’s. Griff is asking us to give our culture to people who had nothing to do with its creation. Very disrespectful ✌🏽
Don’t the gods and erfs believe the black man from America and the black man from Jamaica are exactly the same thing? lol. Doesn’t that put this whole thing to rest?
As much as I love and respect Professor Griff…….Hell Nah man ain’t nobody talking about Africa we’re talking about Hip Hop and Black America Created that!
The Main Component of HIPHOP was generated from BLACKS out of NYC and all who Contributed to Make it Grow to what it is and Why I love it I appreciate y’all Peace y’all
Griff claim is also problematic cuz implying that black American cultural artforms are African in origin, then allows black africans to claim that THEY are the authors of what black Americans created, which ALSO is not true.
once you understand the difference between Race, ETHNICITY, and Nationality then you can't say "black" people. You have to identify the ethnic group that created it. Foundational Black Americans created Hip Hop culture. Respect to Prof. Griff but WE created our own culture as an ethnic group. Alot of the things we created were not based in Africa.
Nor are we from Africa. People fall for the poison of just because our skin is dark we have to be localised to a specific place which is the narrative to cater to a new pale sub group in a way to hide their foreign nature to this planet. The original "Asian" tribes were just as heavily melanated as everywhere else and they didn't originate from Africa and man did not originate in Africa. Research earth nodes which are conception points and you'll learn that the original man (God in the flesh) manifest here originally all over these conception grids and they were all hydro-carbon (melanin) beings.
Africa is the motherland of all black people, but hip hop is indeed an African American invention. When Africans were brought to America they developed their own unique culture, because they had to. It formed naturally. Just like Jamaicans. Jamaicans have no problem telling you their roots are African, but their culture is unique so it has its own chamber or facet that should be set apart.
America brought civilization to the world. It’s always been poppin over here. My people were not brought here from NOWHERE and we never were not NOW HERE.
Your first premise is incorrect, "Out of Africa" is a theory, meaning "speculation," "mental scheme." Albert Perry was an aboriginal black American who was born and lived and dyed on Indian land. He is known as chromosomal Adam 338,000 yo. African Adam is 208,000 yo
There's no need to say anything... you guys are on it. Most of our people were already here in the America's before anyone else. Get it through your thick African heads. We were already here. Indigenous Americans. First.
Griff is not separating FBA from Africa which is why he is saying what he is saying. Looking at his point of view. He is right! He knows HipHop was created in America by FBA. In his eye we are all from Africa! In my eyes, we are FBA and unique on this planet. Our ancestors are African but we have evolved in to a new category called FBA being born in America! There are countless videos online that shows who created not only HipHop but the majority of the music genres today. It's is ALL FBA!
It has already been proven that melanated people originated in Africa, then many migrated outside of that region and populated the ENTIRE planet. Pangea may have even had a role in Blacks populating the planet. The Blacks that migrated to North America or were displaced here via Pangea were the original occupants of the North American geographical region and are the ancestors of most so-called Black Americans, so-called African Americans, so-called Negroes, so-called Black Indians, so-called Niqquz. We are unique!
Professor griff was not there in the beginning. He is too young and don’t know what he’s talking about. He is not a pioneer. The movie Microphone check has the original pioneers in it and they say Black Americans created Every Element of Hip Hop.
Griff still got on his 90s African medallion...unfortunately the rest of us have moved on. But after watching entire episode he said he got a book to sale. Good luck Prof. get your paper.
Griff lost me with the African talk. So now the West Africans can calm they co-created hip-hop..😅. We're an entire new breed with over 400yrs of history in America. It's OK if we as a people stand on that and be proud to be FBA. There's nowhere in Africa we can call home, so stop the African talk.
This interviewer hasn't done enough research because if he had he will know Haitians, Jamaicans and Trinidadians are also known as AfroCaribbeans just as black Americans are known as African Americans.The more I listen to the interviewer the more I realise he has little knowledge of self by asking certain questions.Africans don't have swag? Do you know about the Pharoahs of Kemet? Who had more swag than them? Have you seen the Kings of the Ashanti Kingdoms of Ghana? Who had more bling than them? Nobody in the history of the world has stunted more than Mansa Musa? African swag created the Greek and other civilizations as well as all the major world religions.I can go on and on
Can respect where Griff is coming from...I get it...we as American blk ppl invented hip-hop...perios point blank...nobody on this planet has been through what we have been through and that's how hip-hop originated out of blk Americans pain and suffering and once again here comes wht boy roy and all the rest of the culture vultures cashing in on our creativity and we get nothing out of it not even the recognition that we created it
Now that it is becoming international and projected to become a multi-trillion-dollar enterprise annually over the next 5 years other groups want to take ownership of Hip Hop. Sad that Professor Griff and so many others in the game stayed silent all these decades and allowed all these other groups to shoehorn their way into Black American Culture. We in America created our own ethnic culture just like the other former slave colonies like Haiti, Jamaica, etc. We have African heritage (dna) but we have American lineage. We do not claim Jamaicans or Haitians are just a bunch of lost Africans living on a bunch of islands. That would be disrespectful of the 400+ plus years of their unique history in their countries (remember the Caribs and Tainos Indians who were dark skinned) . Similarly, we should not say Black Americans are just a lost tribe of Africans wandering around in America. We have 400+ plus years (longer if you include the copper-colored races found here by the Europeans). The problem with Professor Griff and others is they have bought into the Pan-African dream. Moreover, if you accept Professor Griff's argument then Black Americans did not create Gospel, Jazz, R & B, Ragtime, Country, etc. because there was singing and hand clapping in Africa. Griff is wrong that African American was generated in 1988. It was not added to the census until 2000. He is simply not that well educated (great rapper) and wrong saying our slavery experience made it different for us to call ourselves African American. No. Haiti and Jamaica, Trinidad etc. were all slave colonies. And Africa was not called Africa before the 1700s. It was Jesse Jackson and Pan Africanism that moved us off of "negro", "colored", or "Black".
Our people suffer from lack of knowledge of self. The self I’m referring to comes from the soil of all lands. However hip hop is uniquely Ours from this land
We Made Music With Our Bodies & Mouths Before Instruments. Music Was Everywhere Because We Was Everywhere. We Are One, We Are Special & Do The Same Things A Little Different According To Where We Are Located. Everything Originated With The Original Natural People Of This Realm. Stop Sweating Names & Labels Given To Us By People Who Hate Us. PEACE🌞
Griff loss me giving what we created to Africans??? I can’t even finish watching this video cause I’m not going to listen to him give what we did to Africa!!
Griff is kind of reaching. Who cares about what happened in Africa, no disrespect. Today’s music are derivatives of Foundational Black American culture. There are simply no current Africans doing anything remotely close to what we Black Americans are doing here in North America.
As a 49-year drummer/percussionist/musician/composer/instructor, I can affirm & confirm that what Griff is saying is accurate, regardless of our deceptive argument about place of Ancestral origin (Africa or America)! ALL American music IS rooted in drumming as the rhythm pulse that connects ALL of the musical genres EXCEPT "Classical" music which is the music of The European oligarchy/renaissance and that music DOES NOT have drumming as a primary rhythm pulse. Drumming ORIGINATED in Africa & made its way to America via the first dispersion of Ancestors (Natives) who fled Africa from Roman persecution as well as the Spanish exile movement, then the second dispersion of The Atlantic Coast Slave Trade outta Africa. BOTH dispersions saw Melanated tribes recreating djembe drums (Congo Square in New Orleans is just one example) as well as the banjo & fiddle (both African instruments) that laid the very foundation for the guitar which became the lead instrument in Bluegrass (THE ROOTS of Country Music), The Blues, & Rock'N'Roll. Our other contemporary forms of music: R&B/Soul, Gospel, are rooted in the combinations of Biblical Ancestral Hymns & early Jazz. The styles of Hip-hop, Funk/Dance, Reggae & Afro-Cuban/Latin ARE drum dominant musical styles rooted in African drum rhythms/patterns. CLASSROOM FACTS: I borrowed a friend's Mother Earth African Djembe Drum (The 24 inch bass djembe that the Hip-hop 808 kick drum was digitally sampled from that rattles car speakers); I used his Mother Earth African Djembe drum in my class one day to execute/display hand drumming patterns to my class & the young people almost lost their minds in the drum tone/sound of the drum & IMMEDIATELY connected the sound/frequency/vibrational tone of that AFRICAN drum right back to Hip-hop "Trap" beats of The South & the East Coast Pioneer Hip-hop drum patterns as well as the West Coast Gangster drum styles! My class went into a creative frenzy over the sound of that Mother Earth African Djembe & some young poets started "freestlylin" to the hand drum patterns I played that day! The drum (rhythm/groove) IS the foundation & connection to ALL of our music & offshoots of our music. THE ONLY music not from our Genetic Blueprint IS Classical music, even though Beethoven is said to have had Moorish African Ancestry! At the end of the day, ALL American Music has tempos determined by drumming & ALL drumming (drum set, marching, Hip-hop beats, etc.) ARE rooted in African Djembe drumming. Y'all connect the dots & stop disconnecting just for the sake of an argument to grand stand each other!
💯 ...they won't admit to this though!!! The truth in the music is always in the drum. Anyone who knows what the Bronx was like in the early 70's it was very multicultural and practically impossible for it to be all FBA.
African tribes often recited history & folk lore thru song, poetry & dance, the Griot tradition of west Africa for example. It might not be Hip Hop as in how its recognised in America today, but its poetry set to rhythm & syncopation that in its essence at the root is the same. Given that black people were first transported as slaves across the Atlantic to the Americas, they brought across those same musical traditions & influences to evolve music through their own life experience unique to life in America, which over generations evolved into Hip Hop. Thats what Afrocentricity was all about, African American people recognising those roots even if the motherland is an alien place to where they live now. Its a pity that cultural influence of Hip Hop got left behind to all the gangsterisms & metarialism that came to dominate rap for commercial reasons. So the generations coming up stay ignorant & trapped in a world where money overshadows knowledge. Im not a 5% or nation of islam follower like Griff but they at least carry this basic knowledge forward.
It has already been proven that melanated people originated in Africa, then many migrated outside of that region and populated the ENTIRE planet. Pangea may have even had a role in Blacks populating the planet. The Blacks that migrated to North America or were displaced here via Pangea were the original occupants of the North American geographical region and are the ancestors of most so-called Black Americans, so-called African Americans, so-called Negroes, so-called Black Indians, so-called Niqquz. Learn something!
This is one of the saddest talking points in black history to say because Biggie was of Jamaican heritage he shouldn't be celebrated as one of the goats is ridiculous and narrow minded 🛑 the divide embrace 🖤 pride
Professor Griff was not expecting to be called out on his BS lol. Trying to give credit for Hip Hop to Africa is a joke. The guy is all over the place and don't know what the hell he's talking about!!
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@@blackmagik363 I would read your book but I don't need it to answer the question who created Hip Hop. You don't have to go deep for the Subject matter. Like who is the Original Man. You ever heard of a Book called a Message to the Blackman in America?
Enough said.
@@BlackNTellso what language were you speaking before slavery Mrs Native American
@@BlackNTell You ever heard of the slave trade?😊
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FBA AMERICANS created Hip Hop end of discussion
Das it!!
@@BlackNTell Created? Yes! Steel Talk.
FBA was invented to describe a group of people, just like Racist Eugenicists introduced the word BLACK (an adjective) to identify a particular group of people
Agreed 💯💯💯
If FDA created Hip Hop how come it wasn’t celebrated all over America, skin tone don’t make you part of the culture..
Griff just doesn't want to give any credit to Tariq Nasheed for the Microphone Check documentary because Tariq cooked him and his then girlfriend a few years ago. Get over it Griff.
Exactly 💯
Blacks have been on every part of every Continent before anyone!... We are aboriginals everywhere!
Originals and Aboriginals.
FACTS!!!
Exactamundo…♾️
ORIGINALS!!!
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I never new the origins of hiphop was up for debate I always new it was for us by us...
Word. Since breaking will be in the Olympics, the others are trying to put their stamp on it. Not on my watch
@@slide5039 Exactly!
Steel Talk.
Yes. It’s sad right? It’s a big conversation because everyone wants in. It wouldn’t be a problem recognizing everyone else’s contribution if everyone else was so racist against us and wanted to steal so much from us culturally. But because the agenda is always to minimize the black contribution to black s$$t, we have to stand firm and reclaim. I totally agree with you.
*knew! Maybe by y'all but not only for y'all. Hip Hop is everywhere.
my parents are from Jamaica l was born in England . the origin of hip hop music started with black American people because it came from blues jazz soul funk mixing and scratching sampling the oldies and the dancing you only see from 1920s 1930s 1940s 1950s 1960s breaking dancing rapping james brown was the most sampled with two turntables then the arrivuel of drum machines 🥁 synthersizers sample the Jamaican added 10% other races of people got involved when they seen fun and power of the music but didn't want to struggle and suffer what black people's issues for freedom and justice and equality that's why their no real black and brown coalition because they only want to use us to get were they need go and pretend they did it by themselves
I’m from the UK too of Caribbean heritage and agree 1000% it was Black Americans who started it, growing up listening to HipHop all the original artist were Black, and I can attest for a fact Black Americans created HipHop and ALL the elements of it!!! Yes some Caribbean ppl entered the culture as we can relate to our American cousins but it’s always been their thing! Your so called Hispanics got involved because they had similar life experiences that helped them affiliate and assimilate into it. Then came the oppressed whites who also felt the struggle and joined in. But it’s a black thing. Just because the others study it and master it doesn’t make it theirs!!!
@@TheGoldenbrowne very well said!! Thank you
Appreciate you 🙏🏾
If HIPHOP TRULY BEGAN in AFRICA, JAMAICA, or PUERTO RICO, it would've been BIG in THOSE REGIONS FIRST.THINK about it.
Not sure if Griff ever really answered the questions... If the origins of Rap came from Africa, why can't they rap better than us?
The main ingredient of our supreme talent, that Brother Professor Griff is missing, is the centuries of unique pressurized trauma and terror under Caucasians that no one else on the Planet could endure and fight. A fight we are still engaged. African music almost was slap happy and bouncy. Caribbean and Puerto Rican also. Our pain is reflected in our Delta Blues, etc... We had a hostile enemy every step we took and thereby had something to rap about. After Colonialism Africans we fighting each other. The others emulate and copy us. Jamaicans had talent because some of us were settled there after the Revolutionary War under the British, that we fought with to be free from Americans.
@bronfree6503
Griff is lying so he's going to be called what he is by me, a liar. I'm from the DELTA I know where all the music come from. Some of my people help create some of this music that went around the world. Every GENRE of MUSIC proceeded each other and dances always formed from that. Don't ever allow them to take what our ANCESTORS created out of nothing but their natural talent. They made guitars out of window screen wire. Africans couldn't do what we do on their best day. They got everything they are doing for BLACK AMERICANS just like everyone else! It's looks like people are getting paid to lie.
@@msrubie11 Facts! And yeah, the South is the true MECCA of Black American culture!
Bless his Heart…
@msrubie11 All African music isn't happy and bouncy. Music from the Sahel and Sahara region is pretty bluesy.
It's theorized that African American slaves descended from Sahelian West Africa are who primarily created Blues music. They were the primary creators of early Country music too.
The movie Microphone Check shuts all this Caribbean & Africans help creates HiP Hop BS down. The true pioneers have spoken. Griff needs to sit down and do more research.
He's got an agenda
Agreed @proudfba
Them black and white videos ain’t hiphop 😂😂
@@jbofficial5190NEITHER ARE YOU TETHER!!
@@firsteyebeats2617 And you are a hiding TETHER!! 🤣😭
The FBA group, The Temptations rapped Ball of Confusion in 1970. They even say in the song, “Rap on brother. Rap on!”
Guff is not an historian of hip hop clearly. Also giff spoke like a man who has relationships with women, of different cultures. Normally blk ppl like this, wanna all live matters Blk Culture..
@@Kim-yf8cv yes Griff has relationships with WOMEN. Unlike Lord Jamar and Tariq Nasheed who both taste the rainbow on the down low 🏳️🌈
I respectfully disagree. Griff understands Black culture is connected to the African experience. Learn what ethnicity is because Black is not one of them. Also research the Gullah Geechie community, the offspring of enslaved Africans brought to the US, who have no problem acknowledging their African heritage.
@@MosesIsrael-e6r and yourself 😂😂😂
@@MosesIsrael-e6r stay out America business 🤡
@@dzion guff trying to sale books and don't wanna mess up that money. Especially not having know backing by corporate sponsors. I get the hustle but stop with the lies.
This is good for Black Americans. We can finally see who’s on our side and delineate who’s against us. Professor Griff now added to the list with Krs, F Joe, Pete Rock, Busta Rhymes
Exactly 👊🏾
Griff lost me with africa, i never seen anybody doing the harlem shake or bank head bounce in any of the Shaka Zulu movie series lol this pan african ideology got us giving away everything we made to other people who dont give us nothing.
It's one way...one doesn't even have to travel to the continent to see that. Separate enclaves, leading with tribe and nationality over "we are all African/black"
@Cahluvca exactly! That's why black folks in America have a different bop vs all other races in America. We're also the most imitated.
The so called "leaders" only the Boule do that.
😂😂😂😂😂u silly
Africa is way larger than the Shaka Zulu TV series.
I respecfully disagree with Griff. Hip Hop is ONLY Black American
Karim Bliz Johnson did a great live about this.. check it out.
He said it is a creation of black Americans but because you cannot understand nor hear and your hatred for other groups of blacks blinds you, you have lost your intelligence like your guru Tariq Nasheed.
He just recalled our DNA (Africa) and said that it is in us, that does not mean that Hip Hop is not a creation of black Americans.
@@cortlandsimmons6241 Black Americans had zilch to do with hiphop. Be specific NYers started and created hiphop culture and music. Some had american parents, some had carribean but im old enough to remember once you got past philly rest of america was country bunpkins ao stop the lies beimg spread on internet and revionist history. The south or outside of NY actually ruined what was created in NYC. I remember seeing rappers perform down south when i went to college. Coming from ny it was normal in nc it was like aliens to them . They were like croatians watching usa basketball 92 😆😆 so now you got euro players all over the league . Hiphop is everywhere but it started in ny by nyers some black aome black wit carrribean lineage .
Griff disappointed me on this one.
Origin yes, but it's global now.
"If it started in Afrika, why they can't do it?"
🎯Bro. Rich
Excellent point made
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English in not their native tongue......Come on folks! Grown the fcuk up and stop this infantile thinking. Have your ever heard the flow of an Muslim African at prayer?
The conversation about who started hip hop is crazy. At this point it doesn’t need to be talked about. It’s common sense that hip hop came from black American culture end of story. Anyone saying otherwise is LYING
Brother Bobby Hemmitt said Griff sold out a long time ago
Facts. He told no lies. He also called out so many more of those "Black Celebrities".
Pan African-ism is a dead movement
No disrespect to Griff but since he said it’s an elementary conversation about Africa and our origins I have to say he has no clue what he’s talking about. Hes telling us what he thinks but he really has no real knowledge on it. If he did he would be babbling through the question
This ain't even up for discussion. EVERYONE knows the ORIGIN, and thus, the CULTURE was strictly Black American. We cringed when they tried to add Jamaican or any other culture to OUR culture.
We cringed😂?? F u talkin bout 😂😂😂
@DelanoEl
They are trying to lie for Puerto Ricans, Latinos, and Africans and they are ALSO GUESTS. Now they're not even that. It's about all of you'all GET OUT!
@@user-op7wd2cw1xshe said what she said
Dj Kool herc came from Jamaica fam
@@user-op7wd2cw1x Everybody loves when Reggae came into Rap music...to the point where you had a lot of "JA-FAKINS"!😂
If everything came from Africa why African ain't Creating nothing NEW
Shhhh!
Like saying everyone is Black because everyone comes from Africa. 😂 That's false
We were NEVER from Africa and (here's the scary part) we're not African-related people.
Because MF’s aren’t in tuned 🤡
Hip Hop once united us and now it divides us.
Ain’t the Devil happy,,,
😈 ha haha hahaha ha!
Divided against outsiders and sell outs, it's best we separate from them.
A lot of vitriol in that statement. Please expand?
Well let him be happy...We getting some straightening.... HIP Hop is our shit period...you can like it of love it but it was created by FBA....
@@futureflavors205I was gonna do the same thing lol. Salute Preemo n Jeru💯🫡
I myself am from Brooklyn of Panamanian Parentage and of Jamaican descent. That said, regarding this topic, as a man born in 1967, I have witnessed plenty. My family, culture and I have always loved our Latin, Caribbean music. But when it comes the music we called rap and the culture we call Hip Hop, from my lenses, I must say Black Americsns put it down first no question.. Although peeps from the Caribbean were there during part of the Genesis, we were infuenced by the folkways and moreys of rap language from my Black Americans brothers and Sistas through my lenses. Yes, us Caribbean/Latin peeps added some of our own flava in Hip Hop, like Black Disco, Funk and R &B, Lord Jamar is correct. Should be no conflict honestly, we colored folk all over the America's cotributed something special. Funky Four plus 1 is one of my All time favorites. Honestly, this subject was never discussed back during those times. Very dissapointed with this divide we are having. I think Busta Rhymes needs a mic check on this one, although he is my brethren.
I DONT THINK THERE’S A DIVIDE BECAUSE WE HAVE NEVER BEEN UNITED! BLACK AMERICANS HAVE NO ALLIES!
@Pabana8009
I understand he is your brethern, but he's shown he's not ours. We allowed him in our HOUSE and he violated a CODE of TREACHERY that Black Americans/FBA/FREEDMEN people who descend for the enslaved in the U.S. can't and will never forgive. To attempt to take ONE'S CULTURE is the start to completely ERASURE. I don't remember not one group who immigrated into this country for the Caribbean, Latin America nor Africa giving us anything. It was us that paved the way and allowed other groups among us. It is our CULTURAL INFLUENCE that made this INVADER a life it wouldn't have in the Caribbean. He can NEVER come back and nor can others who cosigned this lie for their CRUMBS and 30 PIECES of SILVER. The subject didn't have to be discussed, no group who came here CREATED any BLACK AMERICAN MUSIC GENRE. If you immigrate to Asia or the middle east and start singing their music one day, and have a hit. Did you CREATE their MUSIC?
@@firsteyebeats2617
You're exactly right! It's time to close the doors and the gateway entrance will be narrow!
Black Americans are indigenous to this land. We are finding out more and more that they took our land and took our identity from us. A lot of the dances that he is speaking of are tribal type dances. We had tribes here in America American indigenous Indian black tribes. We're not going for that Africa stuff no more because black indigenous Americans are not from Africa.
Say it LOUD!!!!! For those who THINK they are African-related people.
We are foundational black Americans. period.
Absolutely!
What is griff saying I’m confused about what he is saying..disappointed in his commentary… Sounds like he’s not an FBA…..Sit down!!!!
@WWEFAN12505
He doesn't know the history of music in their country and he certainly don't know the HISTORY of the Blues. When he stated they made guitar strings out of vines, it solidified he is not versed in the History of music in Black America. He doesn't know basic information. I didn't hear his vast knowledge. I heard a lot of generalization about Africa and side stepping every time he was challenged with facts. I've found too much information to prove this is an AGENDA and they are going after ALL our GENERE'S of MUSIC in order to spread it among Africans and others including MEXICANS so they and those who sponsor them can continue to make money off our cultures while we are being pushed out of our own CULTURE and HISTORY. Tariq did the right thing, I'm glad FBA/FREEDMEN supported it. Now it's time to bring the people front and center telling the LIES and shine a light on them for the world to see. WE MUST do what they did for us, they protected us with their lives, we can protect their and our LEGACY for our next generation. Black American MUSIC is GLOBAL, and the world know we got nothing from Africa. Any group willing to dispute that don't deserve to be in our presence and certainly must exist our culture. I believe in BOYCOTTS, if you're lying your skin color means nothing. I'll BOYCOTT your hot dog cart, if need be. Leave the DELTA and Black American Music ALONE, real talk! If Griff don't respect us, I don't respect Griff! Griff didn't feed and raise me, the people in the DELTA did.
F.B.A is not giving it to africa
PERIOD!!
@@MichelleLove-uo7de if they keep talking we going to claim reggae and salsa music
@@jermainepeters5702 right
Professor Griff was the first to open my eyes on the true workings of the industry back In 2010.Before Katt Williams and Jaguar Wright there was Professor Griff‼️💯🙏🏽
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He's completely wrong about Africans creating Hip Hop and he never proved or demonstrated as such.
Yeah I feel like this interview should’ve been about that, although I believe they did have an interview about that and do to certain attacks on the brother he had stop talking about certain things. There still are the books though 🫡.
@@michaela-wd8xn just because he doesn’t share your perspective doesn’t mean he’s wrong.🤷🏽♂️
@@user-rf7wr4pk6x study Black Dot he breaks down the true origin of Hip Hop in his book “Hip Hop Decoded”.
You can tell who sold out and who didn’t all the sell outs don’t speak truth.
Griff is my brother, but he seems to forget that the true and living God is here. We ( FBA, Black Freedmen ) are the chosen ones to bring this planet back to it righteous state. This is why rest can not create like us.
Professor Griff needs to stop with this African BS. Why didn’t Hip-Hop spring up in Africa or any of the other genres it was sampled from…
You gotta watch those old niggas
Is Hip Hop a genre or a culture?
@@2pacoit’s a genre that’s part of a culture.
@@internetboogeyman2744 Thanks, I was just being rhetorical. a lot of people , jamar included, want to pigeonhole it to music. I noticed jamar was trying to downplay breakin and graffiti in other videos.
Facts! Africans don’t worry about us you never hear them worrying about us
He just gave out whole heritage to Africa I disagree we are not Africans We are Americans. We never came here we were already here. America is the true motherland.
Exactly!
Take a DNA test, that will tell you everything you need to know.
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Delusion..,.
@@dboi4952 DNA labs must be credible!
When hip hop was created, none of them knew they were creating hip hop, its was the vibes at the time when something was created and happen, and that made everyone feels good, and our American brothers put the real and original final touch to it and that when it became a living thing that shook the whole world up.
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FBA (Foundational black Americans) created Hip Hop, everything FBA creates the world then follows thereafter
I watched the Founding Fathers Of Hip Hop Doc a dozen times to get a full understanding but my question to Griff is what did Grand Master Flowers playing on 2 turn table's in 1968 in Yankee stadium before Kool Herc even started had to do with Africa???
Not a damn thing
Any people who think they created hip hop simply needs to prove it with historical context and culture like brotha tariq nasheed did. Where r the last poets and gil scott herons of the other cultures claiming they created it. Thats like saying rock n roll originated with elvis.
The Nuyorican Poet's Cafe was founded in 1973. Hip-hop was an urban (brown/black) experience. I knew plenty of suburban/"country"/island-born browns/blacks that had no idea of what was naturally understood by the Urban, Northeast communities. We (together) influenced each other in a time before commercialization where our incredible talents for ingenuity, creativity, and originally were celebrated... TOGETHER.
I’m FBA and I created Mariachi, dancehall, & salsa 💃, Since Griff said that we were all dropped off in different locations during the middle passage slavery.
How did we get it from Africa and we were here before Columbus
Because we came here way before they came here. The people describe who came in contact with the native in America was dark skin with gold tipped spears. Look at the Olmec statues the are in the image of west African explorers. Some of us just stayed here.
Busta Rhymes said Black Americans got hip hop from Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans because we didn't have any culture of our own so we had to follow them. He also said that Black Americans in the 80s got there style of dress from Puerto Ricans 😂
And Griff is saying we got it from the entire continent of Africa. No different.
He's pathetic
@@beyondthefamecelebritystories Griff is a scamming 🤡
Busta Rymes conflicted. I guess that’s why he turnt into a zesty
😂😂😂
Thank you Bro Rich for bringing this one together
Griff, respectfully never demonstrated that Africans created Hip Hop. Up till this day Africans still can't rap, DJ, B.Boy, pop/break, beat box, do graffiti art. The only thing Griff demonstrated is irritation and attitude.
4% of the total amount of slaves were brought to America, the amount is anything from 43,000 - 90,000 slaves. The so called African slaves was probably less than 2% of black people who were already in the Americas, how would 2% of Africans have any affect on the total?
Griff sounds like KRS1 the only difference between the two, KRS1 claims Puerta Ricans and Jamaicans rcreated Hip Hop and Griff claims Africans created Hip Hop. Griff still thinks we all came from Africa!! Hopefully, this backward way of thinking dyes out completely.
You are so lost man. Shame
How many folk do you think were in usa at the start, not many whites were actually there first after the mongols, then it was free blacks from the Caribbean who as it happens were also slave master and very wealthy, it was after independence that the whites decided all black should enslaved that’s they started importing more blacks first from Caribbean then Africa, you black Americans come from African lineage, after 400 years your no longer your only African by race not ethnicity.
Can't wait for brotha Red Supreme to dissect this one
Indeed
Black Americans aren’t claiming The Pyramids in the continent of Africa
That's a bullshyte ass answer about why we are the one's who say African American and no one else say it only American but the shyte is changing no more African bullshyte.
There is a major difference between creation and participation.
*Lord Jamar*
That's a helluva bar.
*Steel Talk*
Naw, i disagree with Professor Griff. Too many people talk about how we have no culture. Yet, when we set the trend, only then did they want to claim our history. When we prove that we have culture, they are quick to disregard how we made it popular and acceptable in society. They hate to give us credit because it fit the narrative that we have no culture. It's past time to claim our culture.
Expected so much more from Griff. I can almost guarantee his lineage doesn't trace back from a boat from africa, or maybe his does.
@U-Tuba
Dude have Caribbean roots. Many of the people in NY lying about HIP HOP are!
I didn't. These people are always such disappointments.
U just mad because you think he should’ve said something to please you han 😂😂😂 and you’re not indigenous STOP stealing peoples culture
I agree, wish I could say I was surprised, he just made is point of view even more irrelevant
I clicked on, expecting more but I’m so disappointed in this b.s. he’s spewing!
Griff explaining this, is exactly the reason why we are in this controversy today, because his era didn't gatekeep hip hop like they should have, and this is a lesson for generations moving forward. Griffs era let everyone in Hip Hop shared it all with the if you Black wee all the same mentality and it incentived outsiders of our culture to then claim they had a hand in creating it.
What he’s saying just doesn’t make sense. It was impossible for us to take influence from Africa or anywhere else when we had no contact whatsoever with them. Africans and Jamaicans were very few and spread out when we were growing up. They took their influences from us. Let us be reminded that hip hop and every element began far beyond the 70’s. Griff is asking us to give our culture to people who had nothing to do with its creation. Very disrespectful ✌🏽
Whats the difference between Griff and KRS1?
@@michaela-wd8xnGriff is an FBA
Bro, it's culture, it goes where you go..
@@michaela-wd8xnKRS pulls crap out of his arse
Africans can't rap, that's ridiculous, some Nigerians are better.😊
The gods & earths have had a major influence and impact on Hip Hop & Rap!
*Steel Talk*
Actual Facts
gods and earths have an african centered doctrine in it...
Don’t the gods and erfs believe the black man from America and the black man from Jamaica are exactly the same thing? lol. Doesn’t that put this whole thing to rest?
@@ShaykhAbuSalmanThe founder of the 5 percent nation is FBA.
@@zaymula4148 and the founder of the Nation of Islam, the source of five percent nation beliefs, was Indian from India.
As much as I love and respect Professor Griff…….Hell Nah man ain’t nobody talking about Africa we’re talking about Hip Hop and Black America Created that!
That gather of The Masters commercial, Amazing! 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼 ✨😇✨
The Main Component of HIPHOP was generated from BLACKS out of NYC and all who Contributed to Make it Grow to what it is and Why I love it I appreciate y’all Peace y’all
The very first Hip Hop artist came from down south
Professor Griff this was horrible 🎯🎯
How are you Blackfoot by Blood, but you claim Africa 👁️⚖️
Strange, how all our so called intellectuals, historians, etc always put us in Africa. So, effectively, we're African, Bantu, hunter gatherers!!
Facts, all these Dudes be on some Hating. Ish, he saw we wasn’t going for that Africa ish, we created HipHop, Period!!!!
Read a book
Damn, I’m disappointed at Griff but also remember he’s about to red black and the green
I'm just glad that everyone is finally open about what side they are on so we can PAY our attention accordingly.
He is so behind 😂😢😮
@@Real1TravelChannel I know brother Rich wanted to stop him in his tracks, but he didn’t want to give Griff to much push
@@antnedavis5686 I could tell that Rich was over this interview lol
Griff claim is also problematic cuz implying that black American cultural artforms are African in origin, then allows black africans to claim that THEY are the authors of what black Americans created, which ALSO is not true.
once you understand the difference between Race, ETHNICITY, and Nationality then you can't say "black" people. You have to identify the ethnic group that created it. Foundational Black Americans created Hip Hop culture. Respect to Prof. Griff but WE created our own culture as an ethnic group. Alot of the things we created were not based in Africa.
Malawian (Africa) here, fully in agreement. Well said
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Nor are we from Africa. People fall for the poison of just because our skin is dark we have to be localised to a specific place which is the narrative to cater to a new pale sub group in a way to hide their foreign nature to this planet. The original "Asian" tribes were just as heavily melanated as everywhere else and they didn't originate from Africa and man did not originate in Africa. Research earth nodes which are conception points and you'll learn that the original man (God in the flesh) manifest here originally all over these conception grids and they were all hydro-carbon (melanin) beings.
There’s nothing new under the sun. Everything we see now has been done before.
@@bluntafterblunt1295 i guess if we go by your statement there are NO unique cultures.
Africa is the motherland of all black people, but hip hop is indeed an African American invention. When Africans were brought to America they developed their own unique culture, because they had to. It formed naturally. Just like Jamaicans. Jamaicans have no problem telling you their roots are African, but their culture is unique so it has its own chamber or facet that should be set apart.
America brought civilization to the world. It’s always been poppin over here. My people were not brought here from NOWHERE and we never were not NOW HERE.
Your first premise is incorrect, "Out of Africa" is a theory, meaning "speculation," "mental scheme." Albert Perry was an aboriginal black American who was born and lived and dyed on Indian land. He is known as chromosomal Adam 338,000 yo. African Adam is 208,000 yo
There's no need to say anything... you guys are on it. Most of our people were already here in the America's before anyone else. Get it through your thick African heads. We were already here. Indigenous Americans. First.
@@michaela-wd8xn What? All that means is that’s the oldest Y chromosome they FOUND SO FAR in America. It doesn’t mean that’s the oldest there is.
@@jzlovekin When you were told the oldest homo sapien sapien was found in Africa, did you say, "that doesn't mean it's the oldest?"
ANOTHER OG sold us out FAMILY.
Prof griff is 63 yrs old. He should be able to keep it black American and demonstrate from right here in America… that African shit is mythology!
It's Always a Blessing to hear from THE PROFESSOR... And Salute to you as well Brotha Rich💯
Griff is not separating FBA from Africa which is why he is saying what he is saying. Looking at his point of view. He is right! He knows HipHop was created in America by FBA. In his eye we are all from Africa! In my eyes, we are FBA and unique on this planet. Our ancestors are African but we have evolved in to a new category called FBA being born in America! There are countless videos online that shows who created not only HipHop but the majority of the music genres today. It's is ALL FBA!
We are not the same people compared to them in Africa.
It has already been proven that melanated people originated in Africa, then many migrated outside of that region and populated the ENTIRE planet. Pangea may have even had a role in Blacks populating the planet. The Blacks that migrated to North America or were displaced here via Pangea were the original occupants of the North American geographical region and are the ancestors of most so-called Black Americans, so-called African Americans, so-called Negroes, so-called Black Indians, so-called Niqquz. We are unique!
So what about the American Aborigines, who were classified as black, and now African Americans…?
We rap to our girlfriend
We've been far removed from Africa for over 500yrs we are not the same because we have been through a Afro genesis.
The Africans don't even claim us.
Griff gotta be still tired after this interview. He did some dancing around them questions 😂
Griff wrong 😑 on this one.
WWRL was the voice of the people in NYC. The Superstars of Black radio in NYC. Frankie Crocker,Gerry Bledsoe, Hank Spann, Gary Byrd
So was Bob slade james mtume
Peter noel the cutman mark riley
Dr. CARLOS RUSELL FELIPE LUCIANO
@@chaunt100 All of them except for Bob Slade came on the Open Line 98.7 Kiss in the 90’s. WWRL 1600 AM goes back into the 60’s.
22:59 jesse jackson invented the term african american in 80s. He should not have spoke for all of us
It is always interesting to hear the perspective of those, who were there in the earliest days of Hip Hop.
*Steel Talk*
Professor griff was not there in the beginning. He is too young and don’t know what he’s talking about. He is not a pioneer. The movie Microphone check has the original pioneers in it and they say Black Americans created Every Element of Hip Hop.
@@proudfba3803Professor Griff is the same age as Grandmaster Caz, who is a pioneer what are you talking about? Lol
professor griff came into hip hop in the 80’s nerd. Caz is a pioneer from the 70’s. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
professor Griff is off code… hip-hop started in America by Black Americas. This guy has Alzheimer’s.
He's perfectly fine he probably has a handler. Griff fought for the US government. I wonder if he was military intelligence?
Yalls boy gonna love this
Griff still got on his 90s African medallion...unfortunately the rest of us have moved on. But after watching entire episode he said he got a book to sale. Good luck Prof. get your paper.
Us as black Americans have our own culture. We need to start gate keeping our shit. Professor Griff sounds just like them. But They Not Like Us.
Griff lost me with the African talk. So now the West Africans can calm they co-created hip-hop..😅.
We're an entire new breed with over 400yrs of history in America. It's OK if we as a people stand on that and be proud to be FBA.
There's nowhere in Africa we can call home, so stop the African talk.
Ok yall let tha mf'n war begin, cause i know their bout to come for griff's head😂😂😂😂
This interviewer hasn't done enough research because if he had he will know Haitians, Jamaicans and Trinidadians are also known as AfroCaribbeans just as black Americans are known as African Americans.The more I listen to the interviewer the more I realise he has little knowledge of self by asking certain questions.Africans don't have swag? Do you know about the Pharoahs of Kemet? Who had more swag than them? Have you seen the Kings of the Ashanti Kingdoms of Ghana? Who had more bling than them? Nobody in the history of the world has stunted more than Mansa Musa? African swag created the Greek and other civilizations as well as all the major world religions.I can go on and on
Can respect where Griff is coming from...I get it...we as American blk ppl invented hip-hop...perios point blank...nobody on this planet has been through what we have been through and that's how hip-hop originated out of blk Americans pain and suffering and once again here comes wht boy roy and all the rest of the culture vultures cashing in on our creativity and we get nothing out of it not even the recognition that we created it
It's crazy some of these comments don't get that
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That is the biggest part of this conversation that tees me off. Most, if not all of our creations come out of our struggle and pain!
Now that it is becoming international and projected to become a multi-trillion-dollar enterprise annually over the next 5 years other groups want to take ownership of Hip Hop. Sad that Professor Griff and so many others in the game stayed silent all these decades and allowed all these other groups to shoehorn their way into Black American Culture. We in America created our own ethnic culture just like the other former slave colonies like Haiti, Jamaica, etc. We have African heritage (dna) but we have American lineage. We do not claim Jamaicans or Haitians are just a bunch of lost Africans living on a bunch of islands. That would be disrespectful of the 400+ plus years of their unique history in their countries (remember the Caribs and Tainos Indians who were dark skinned) . Similarly, we should not say Black Americans are just a lost tribe of Africans wandering around in America. We have 400+ plus years (longer if you include the copper-colored races found here by the Europeans). The problem with Professor Griff and others is they have bought into the Pan-African dream. Moreover, if you accept Professor Griff's argument then Black Americans did not create Gospel, Jazz, R & B, Ragtime, Country, etc. because there was singing and hand clapping in Africa. Griff is wrong that African American was generated in 1988. It was not added to the census until 2000. He is simply not that well educated (great rapper) and wrong saying our slavery experience made it different for us to call ourselves African American. No. Haiti and Jamaica, Trinidad etc. were all slave colonies. And Africa was not called Africa before the 1700s. It was Jesse Jackson and Pan Africanism that moved us off of "negro", "colored", or "Black".
This is who I’ve been wanting to hear from regarding this topic!!!
If they were rapping in Africa prove it Griff
Our people suffer from lack of knowledge of self. The self I’m referring to comes from the soil of all lands. However hip hop is uniquely Ours from this land
We Made Music With Our Bodies & Mouths Before Instruments. Music Was Everywhere Because We Was Everywhere. We Are One, We Are Special & Do The Same Things A Little Different According To Where We Are Located. Everything Originated With The Original Natural People Of This Realm. Stop Sweating Names & Labels Given To Us By People Who Hate Us. PEACE🌞
BLACK AMERICANS CREATED HIP HOP CULTURE. 💯
This all our shit
Griff need to sit down
Griff loss me giving what we created to Africans??? I can’t even finish watching this video cause I’m not going to listen to him give what we did to Africa!!
I watched all of it and he spoke in circles, when cornered he lashed out and got defensive like KRS1 which is telling.
I couldn’t finish it either smh
Same!!
Ain't nobody talking about Africa, we're talking about us here those that created hip hop, not our descent. Hip hop is ours, period
Brother Griff is all over the place. Hip Hop is Black American in origin.
Griff is kind of reaching. Who cares about what happened in Africa, no disrespect. Today’s music are derivatives of Foundational Black American culture. There are simply no current Africans doing anything remotely close to what we Black Americans are doing here in North America.
We actually influenced Africans. People have it flipped on purpose.
Even Afro beats is an FBA invention.
Original Rhythms Initiate Geniusly
Inventive Legacies...ORIGINAL.....Brotha Rich...Professor Griff...THANK YOU!!!!!
As a 49-year drummer/percussionist/musician/composer/instructor, I can affirm & confirm that what Griff is saying is accurate, regardless of our deceptive argument about place of Ancestral origin (Africa or America)! ALL American music IS rooted in drumming as the rhythm pulse that connects ALL of the musical genres EXCEPT "Classical" music which is the music of The European oligarchy/renaissance and that music DOES NOT have drumming as a primary rhythm pulse. Drumming ORIGINATED in Africa & made its way to America via the first dispersion of Ancestors (Natives) who fled Africa from Roman persecution as well as the Spanish exile movement, then the second dispersion of The Atlantic Coast Slave Trade outta Africa. BOTH dispersions saw Melanated tribes recreating djembe drums (Congo Square in New Orleans is just one example) as well as the banjo & fiddle (both African instruments) that laid the very foundation for the guitar which became the lead instrument in Bluegrass (THE ROOTS of Country Music), The Blues, & Rock'N'Roll. Our other contemporary forms of music: R&B/Soul, Gospel, are rooted in the combinations of Biblical Ancestral Hymns & early Jazz. The styles of Hip-hop, Funk/Dance, Reggae & Afro-Cuban/Latin ARE drum dominant musical styles rooted in African drum rhythms/patterns. CLASSROOM FACTS: I borrowed a friend's Mother Earth African Djembe Drum (The 24 inch bass djembe that the Hip-hop 808 kick drum was digitally sampled from that rattles car speakers); I used his Mother Earth African Djembe drum in my class one day to execute/display hand drumming patterns to my class & the young people almost lost their minds in the drum tone/sound of the drum & IMMEDIATELY connected the sound/frequency/vibrational tone of that AFRICAN drum right back to Hip-hop "Trap" beats of The South & the East Coast Pioneer Hip-hop drum patterns as well as the West Coast Gangster drum styles! My class went into a creative frenzy over the sound of that Mother Earth African Djembe & some young poets started "freestlylin" to the hand drum patterns I played that day! The drum (rhythm/groove) IS the foundation & connection to ALL of our music & offshoots of our music. THE ONLY music not from our Genetic Blueprint IS Classical music, even though Beethoven is said to have had Moorish African Ancestry! At the end of the day, ALL American Music has tempos determined by drumming & ALL drumming (drum set, marching, Hip-hop beats, etc.) ARE rooted in African Djembe drumming. Y'all connect the dots & stop disconnecting just for the sake of an argument to grand stand each other!
💯 ...they won't admit to this though!!! The truth in the music is always in the drum. Anyone who knows what the Bronx was like in the early 70's it was very multicultural and practically impossible for it to be all FBA.
Griff my guy but he off with this Africa talk…I’ve never been influenced by an African…Puerto Rican…or Jamaican
I WAS WAITING FOR PROFESSOR GRIFF!!!
I was too, but sadly I’m disappointed
@@MichelleLove-uo7de what do you mean you’re disappointed?🤔
YESSSS, PROFESSOR GIFF.
BS GRIFF OUR MUSIC HAS NOTHING 2 DO WIT MO DAMN AFRIKA! WE FRUM HERE IT KAME FRUM US! WE NOT LIKE DEM AFRIKANS N DEY NOT LIKE US!
Fantastic to hear but do you control your music industry?
African tribes often recited history & folk lore thru song, poetry & dance, the Griot tradition of west Africa for example. It might not be Hip Hop as in how its recognised in America today, but its poetry set to rhythm & syncopation that in its essence at the root is the same. Given that black people were first transported as slaves across the Atlantic to the Americas, they brought across those same musical traditions & influences to evolve music through their own life experience unique to life in America, which over generations evolved into Hip Hop. Thats what Afrocentricity was all about, African American people recognising those roots even if the motherland is an alien place to where they live now. Its a pity that cultural influence of Hip Hop got left behind to all the gangsterisms & metarialism that came to dominate rap for commercial reasons. So the generations coming up stay ignorant & trapped in a world where money overshadows knowledge. Im not a 5% or nation of islam follower like Griff but they at least carry this basic knowledge forward.
It has already been proven that melanated people originated in Africa, then many migrated outside of that region and populated the ENTIRE planet. Pangea may have even had a role in Blacks populating the planet. The Blacks that migrated to North America or were displaced here via Pangea were the original occupants of the North American geographical region and are the ancestors of most so-called Black Americans, so-called African Americans, so-called Negroes, so-called Black Indians, so-called Niqquz. Learn something!
Yes I love your awareness.👁️👑
This is one of the saddest talking points in black history to say because Biggie was of Jamaican heritage he shouldn't be celebrated as one of the goats is ridiculous and narrow minded 🛑 the divide embrace 🖤 pride
Professor Griff was not expecting to be called out on his BS lol. Trying to give credit for Hip Hop to Africa is a joke. The guy is all over the place and don't know what the hell he's talking about!!