Id like to think they are, mostly cause i like the idea of the legend being true in some way. Plus it gives us a crumb of insight and backstory on this green haired form that we probobly arent going to get before the series ends for good
Yeah… I mean, Broly’s form is easily explainable for the Green hair, Ikari(Wrath State) has a Green color to it, so combining Green with Yellow makes his hair Greenish Yellow.
@@2-bit567 ig that could be the case, but its just that it doesn't feel like one considering there are so many all at the same time you know, having only 1 green haired ssj per universe sounds like more of a legend to me
Even the normal ssj was called " the legendary super saiyan" so its just a name and i don't think akira would choose a character he didn't create to be a legend instead of goku or vegeta, " not sure about vegeta "
actually no you made a mistake Broly was a character Toriyama likes as not only did he create the character he even made sure to make the character canon in super, while yes Takao Koyama came up with the idea Akira made the design and went so far as to make the character canon.
@@dearstew5457 first, he didn't create broly second, he made broly canon to the fans' sake, he in fact doesn't like the idea of someone other being the legend than Goku, as he is perfectly fitting in the legend itself
your wrong 1st he was the one who created the design for broly now yes someone else came up with the idea for broly but Toriyama liked the idea then instantly started the design of Broly and by himself made the complete design, also your wrong again as Toriyama Literally said his favorite saiyan was either Broly or Goku@@pdlev1324
Super Saiyan and legendary Super Saiyan are not the same thing, we don't even have in universe confirmation that what the characters have is the Super Saiyan of legend, the legendary Super Saiyan it's not a form it's a person, a Saiyan that is far beyond the potential of any normal Saiyan, hence a "super" Saiyan. It would only makes sense that the legendary super Saiyan is an individual rather than a form anyone with Saiyan DNA could use. In the film the doctor states that Broly could even end up being the legendary super Saiyan, they knew what they were doing when they wrote the film and they wouldn't have used that line of the writers didn't mean to make people think that he was the legendary super Saiyan. Then consider the fact that the title of legendary Super Saiyan is permanently linked to Broly, and the film does heavily reference the old version of the character with the green haired form and usage of that title. They specifically make a point to tell you that Broly is the legendary super Saiyan. In addition, when Vegeta first talked about the Super Saiyan the visuals were much closer aligned with the ideas of Broly rather than the super Saiyan form, the raging out of control power is exactly what we have seen with kale and both broly's. In conclusion they have named their forms different things because it's not the form that is legendary Super Saiyan, it is the individual.
I think the “Legendary Super Saiyan” is a Saiyan born with an abnormal potential who can grow stronger by the second just by fighting, taking the Zenkai to a whole new level. This sums up Broly at least.
@@hoshiryu so even in the games broly’s SSJ transformation was named LSSJ or Legendary Super Saiyan so your incorrect on all of your replies and statements about goku being the LSSJ because that’s only because goku was the first SSJ not LSSJ but they thought it was still LSSJ so they called it that until others started transforming.
@@austin2593 Broly (Z Incarnation and Xeno) is the only Saiyan who has the LSSJ Form The others are Mutants and the Forms have names like Berserker and Full Power (Berserk is the Form Goku got when Cumber's aura influenced him)
@@loadshedding_no he was the first Super Saiyan God because we learn about it when they ask shenron about the Super Saiyan god ritual and we see other saiyans channel their energy to turn him into one
@@SuperStationCr1 yes sorry I learned about that today, I hadn't had a chance to correct myself yet, seems like a really dumb change in some ways but in other ways I can see why
I think the legendary super saiyans are just mutated saiyans, if it was such a legend then how come we dont know who was before broly, surely the previous legend was kept in history
Bruh we don't exactly have great info on what happened 10,000 years ago in our world so what makes you believe they would, especially since they are constantly at war so sick knowledge could have easily been destroyed if it was written anywhere and there are many reasons as to why they might not, they could have ended the bloodline and that it wasn't important to keep note of, it could be like the avatar in avatar The last Airbender where it's just sort of random, or it could have been covered up by either the Royal family or Frieza's race as a way to make sure nobody ever got any ideas about challenging them
Well the original legendary super Saiyan was in his great ape form and ended up blowing the planet he was on up and killing himself so I'm not sure how the legend got passed down, maybe the other saiyans with him fled on a space ship and watched the planet blow up but yeah. Also there was yamoshi who went ssj god but that's not who Vegeta was referring to on namek.
Super Saiyan and legendary Super Saiyan are not the same thing, we don't even have in universe confirmation that what the characters have is the Super Saiyan of legend, the legendary Super Saiyan it's not a form it's a person, a Saiyan that is far beyond the potential of any normal Saiyan, hence a "super" Saiyan. It would only makes sense that the legendary super Saiyan is an individual rather than a form anyone with Saiyan DNA could use. In the film the doctor states that Broly could even end up being the legendary super Saiyan, they knew what they were doing when they wrote the film and they wouldn't have used that line of the writers didn't mean to make people think that he was the legendary super Saiyan. Then consider the fact that the title of legendary Super Saiyan is permanently linked to Broly, and the film does heavily reference the old version of the character with the green haired form and usage of that title. They specifically make a point to tell you that Broly is the legendary super Saiyan. In addition, when Vegeta first talked about the Super Saiyan the visuals were much closer aligned with the ideas of Broly rather than the super Saiyan form, the raging out of control power is exactly what we have seen with kale and both broly's. In conclusion they have named their forms different things because it's not the form that is legendary Super Saiyan, it is the individual.
To all the Fanboys who think Goku is the LSSJ. Look at his forms, look at the forms other saiyans have. See like 10 people using SSJ and tell me that Goku is Legendary in stature and one of a kind. Several saiyans have SSJ 1/2/3
@@claybricks3689 “The legend says it only happens ONCE EVERY THOUSAND YEARS.” We hear this quote from Vegeta countless times. What is Goku the ONLY Saiyan to achieve SSJ? No his SSJ forms can be reached by 6/7 year olds.
I personally go against calling Kale and super Broly LSSJs because throughout the namek saga in z, they are constantly talking about the legendary super saiyan. Several times in that saga, characters like Vegeta and Ginyu say that Goku could be the legendary super saiyan, but immediately take back what they said because he did not have the bloodlust of the legend. The same goes for Kale and super Broly, because they are not as much bloodthirsty as they are uncontrolled. Z Broly, on the other hand, knew exactly what he was doing, and enjoyed it. He had the bloodlust and power of the legend, as well as the ruthlessness and general enjoyment of watching his enemies be in despair. This is all just my take on it, but the only LSSJ that we have seen so far in my eyes is Z Broly.
Super Saiyan and legendary Super Saiyan are not the same thing, we don't even have in universe confirmation that what the characters have is the Super Saiyan of legend, the legendary Super Saiyan it's not a form it's a person, a Saiyan that is far beyond the potential of any normal Saiyan, hence a "super" Saiyan. It would only makes sense that the legendary super Saiyan is an individual rather than a form anyone with Saiyan DNA could use. In the film the doctor states that Broly could even end up being the legendary super Saiyan, they knew what they were doing when they wrote the film and they wouldn't have used that line of the writers didn't mean to make people think that he was the legendary super Saiyan. Then consider the fact that the title of legendary Super Saiyan is permanently linked to Broly, and the film does heavily reference the old version of the character with the green haired form and usage of that title. They specifically make a point to tell you that Broly is the legendary super Saiyan. In addition, when Vegeta first talked about the Super Saiyan the visuals were much closer aligned with the ideas of Broly rather than the super Saiyan form, the raging out of control power is exactly what we have seen with kale and both broly's. In conclusion they have named their forms different things because it's not the form that is legendary Super Saiyan, it is the individual.
I think they refer to Broly and kales forms as “the legendary super saiyan form” because it’s said that the legendary super saiyan is consumed with rage and eventually will self-destruct w their own power like Broly and kale do. This is opposed to the normal super saiyan which doesn’t grant as crazy of a power boost but also allows the user to maintain control
He calls her Legendary Saiyan in the Manga, a different Continuity from the Anime Also Berserker, Berserk is the form Goku gets when he touches Cumber's Aura LSSJ grows Infinitly in Power, Berserker grows until the Body can't keep up and then just stops, Full Power grows to a certain Point because that's how much Broly can grow, like how he powered up his Final time (unless he ascends inzo a higher Level) after Shenron was summoned
@@CLIVIXX Jokes on you. Canon literally doesn't exist in dragon ball. It's a multiverse made of multiple multiverse each having multiple timelines. It's a *XENOVERSE* everything in one way or another is canon in some way. If a saiyan in dbs with a tail turned golden oozaru and controlled it, *guess* *what* we'd get a ssj4, and even then, it may not be the ssj4 we know.
Im pretty sure it’s explained in the more recent Broly movie. Broly was born with more potential than any saiyan on planet vegeta, including Goku. Same thing could have possibly occurred with kale. But I also think it was like this in the original Broly movie (and don’t say Braly) but instead Broly took the power of rage during the explosion of planet vegeta saving him and his father. Although his title was “the LSSJ”, the other two just have amazing potential, like Gohan does.
I mean Kale has a whole story behind her super saiyan. And a mythos to back it up. IMO This how dnd campaigns are conducted. So she is absolutely the Legendary Super Saiyan as much as anyone else if not nore so cuz you have a character referencing them with well a legend.
L take you can read as much fandom as you want but kale is just a knockoff of broly from another universe. Broly is the legendary super saiyan alone cuz hes been in the story for idk how long. His power is limitless. Even in fusion, kale couldnt even stop Ui goku, but broly gets more powerful the longer the battle. Goku literally had to teach kefla how to reach super saiyan 2😂
@@rolypolyrolliebroly is definitely stronger. But it makes sense for there to be a legendary super sayien just like normal SSJs in universe 6. Why she is so weak compared to broly even tho normal SSJs are much stronger than when goku and vegeta first achieved the form ? Well no one knows that.
@@asphyxia8396or maybe cuz brolys older by allot and wasn’t introduced to later in the series if broly was showcased before kale she’d be stronger cuz goku would be
@@Gaurav_kattagyanhonestly I figured it was because she is a lot more timid and shy than broli is. Like broli def is shy but not near as much from what we have seen. Figured the personality could be at least a mild explanation
Green hair, constantly growing power, ki-enhanced muscles without loss of speed, yeah that's the LSSj form. I think the only reason it's not called that in super is to keep Z Broly more unique since he was not created by Toriyama himself. But I'm still gonna call it that.
I like Kale being the LSSJ of U6, but as for S Broly, I heard a theory his FPSSJ was Super's version of SSJ4, since it's likely a combo of Broly SSJ and his Wrathful state.
This is pretty simple. Brolys hair is green because the character designer wanted it to be so, you can read an interview about it. People read to much into this LSS thing, it's purely a design decision
I like goku being the ledgendary saiyan and his home on earth made him the strongest saiyan of his time unlike a normal saiyan who may have destroyed themselves through their anger
This is unrelated but I actually enjoyed Blonde Broly from the second coming movie a lot more. He was smaller/leaner and since his hair was blonde he matched the other sayains aesthetic while still keeping the ancient sayain robes. Green haired Broly was a little too big for my liking as he was ridiculously buff and tall. Kale suffers the same problem but doesn’t have a traditional blonde form her version of “super sayain 1” is still a green haired version with a muscle pump. And Super Broly does have a blonde form that is slightly different since it has no pupils and since Toriyama couldn’t make up his mind on how many sayain forms there should be
I think the biggest thing to take from ssj is that it is a legendary form in general. Long forgotten by its own people but still rooted in the dna. It doesn't actually take rage or a pure heart to reach it although those can be catalysts. It takes training, understanding energy control and pushing ones self to beyond natural limitations. Once this is done you can awaken latent energy inside the saiyans cells and have them exponentially increase the output of energy from a focused point. Hints why they told the universe 6 sauyans to focus all their energy into their backs.
The reason for why they’re called the lssj is not due to the forms im pretty sure they get this title cause of they’re ability to grow more powerful with their anger it would make since dbz,dbs and kale are always angry when in they’re forms unlike goku or vegeta
Goku was always, and has always been the legendary super Saiyan. It has been proven time and time again that Goku can surpass anybody he faces even if they are at the peak of what Goku thought he could do
I always liked that theory of goku being a lssj and it makes sense kinda, Goku was the first (CANON‼️) person to go ssj in the saiyan race after the legend yamoshi, remember not a single one of the saiyans even knew what ss looked like until on of them, being vegeta, saw goku in the form against frieza
I think of it like a myth that has cropped up around Daiyan prodigies in that it’s “talent that only appears every 1000 years” is the kind of exaggeration you her a lot in anime about such individuals
My head canon is the “Legendary” form is just autism in saiyans. Especially if you look at Broly and Kale’s personality. Kinda resembles someone on the spectrum. But this also makes the characters more relatable to me, since I have diagnosed autism (And not that self diagnosed shit people do to be “QuIrKy aNd UnIqUe”) It’s like…the black face of autism
I always thought that the green haired form was a modified Super Saiyan 2, available only to the ones born with this wild "Legendary" gene. But since it lacks the lightning of SSJ2 and there's a SSJ3 Z Broly, I chalked it up to it actually being a Super Saiyan 1 Grade 5, hence why the games always call Green Hair Super Broly "Full Power". They have unlocked the quintessential wrathful facets of the Super Saiyan transformation, but it's still much too unrefined to evolve to SSJ2 or 3.
Id say they're both Mutants and the Legendary Super Saiyan. It would kind of make sense if the Legendary Super saiyan has always been a extremely rare genetic mutation that could never be directely spread because the ones with the gene always died, hence why it would take hundreds or thousands of years until the next one. Hell maybe Broly and Kale are the next steps in evolution for Saiyans
Carthu's dojo already proved that goku is the legendary super saiyan since he was the first one after the original that started the tale, that first one was also most likely bardock.
I think that legendary super sayian is when a sayian is born or just has their oozaru as a base form standard thus giving them intensive and incredible power. With having the oozaru as an base form power level that would basically be saying that they're already closer to their sayian roots. That would also explain how their power level grow immensely, but without proper control and training they end up destroying themselves.
Alot of people us the fact that they're called something else in the games, which isnt a good measure since the games have called Super Saiyan 2 "Super Saiyan Rage" and seperated Vegetas forms from regular Super Saiyan, unless they wanna say Vegeta has a completely original and unique form of Super Saiyan
Akira Toriyama didn’t come up with the idea. Broly wasn’t supposed to have green hair either but the original animator of the Z Broly made sure that Super Broly had Green hair to have a throw to the original Broly
I like to think they are. This form is shown to be extremely rare,only 2 Saiyans have been shown so far to possess it instead of the regular Ssj, and it's also not possible for other Saiyans to reach this form,otherwise Goku and Vegeta would've already done it.
There might be another berserk kale that’s equal in power to dbs full power broly in an alternate timeline in universe 6, which means if that kale fused with caulifla then kefla’s base form might be on par with ui sign goku or probably surpasses him without being a super saiyan
The original answer is that original concept of LSS was supposed to be just super saiyan, a legend of an ability to transform into a form with great power that far outweighs the transformation of the great ape. The saiyans passed down this legend throughout generations, and it eventually became a myth until Goku transformed. Then the Broly movie, which was noncanon, decided to take the false narrative myth part of the legend-- that a super saying was born every X amount of years-- and made that part reality with a new "true" legendary form. Then Super decided to possibly[?] make this Canon through Kale and Broly. As of now, it can be thought as just an homage to the original Broly movie since no one outright made the connection to the stories both Vegeta and Frieza were passed down. Until one of these characters states these forms are the actual LSS that the stories were about, we can't say for sure either way.
I full on believe that the legend of the super saiyan was just the ikari state because of the rage. Whis kind of implied too that Goku, vegeta, and their kids were able to attain the yellow hair for its a "recent power they've come up with"
I think that Goku is a legendary Super Saiyan, and that Akira Toriyama was planning to end Dragon Ball in the Namek arc, but the anime continued and Vegeta got a transformation, and then the idea was changed.
Personally, I like the confusion itself, playing with legends and prophecy. Goku defeating Freeza seemed to fit the prophecy, so everyone assumed it had been fulfilled and that was that. Only to later realise they've misinterpreted the prophecy and there really *is* a capital L, *Legendary* super saiyan. This way Goku defeats Freeza through sheer hardwork and determination ( which is apparently what Goku is all about ) instead of being predestined to do it, but we also get a millennium long prophesied Legendary mutant super warrior. We get to have it both ways.
Well, according to Battle of Gods, the Legendary Super Saiyan was now a Super Saiyan God, which kind of invalidates the idea of Broly/Kale being it. As well as that weird Bardock going back in time and being it thing.
Be honest, there’s two legendary, super Saiyan, because in the older sagas Freiza and Vegeta said that a normal super Saiyan was a actual legendary super Saiyan
I think there’s something to the LSSJ form where it’s only Legendary because in the past, they could have simply been the ones who could unlock the form easily(ish), unlike most other normal saiyans who couldn’t unlock the gold-haired form
Super Saiyan and legendary Super Saiyan are not the same thing, we don't even have in universe confirmation that what the characters have is the Super Saiyan of legend, the legendary Super Saiyan it's not a form it's a person, a Saiyan that is far beyond the potential of any normal Saiyan, hence a "super" Saiyan. It would only makes sense that the legendary super Saiyan is an individual rather than a form anyone with Saiyan DNA could use. In the film the doctor states that Broly could even end up being the legendary super Saiyan, they knew what they were doing when they wrote the film and they wouldn't have used that line of the writers didn't mean to make people think that he was the legendary super Saiyan. Then consider the fact that the title of legendary Super Saiyan is permanently linked to Broly, and the film does heavily reference the old version of the character with the green haired form and usage of that title. They specifically make a point to tell you that Broly is the legendary super Saiyan. In addition, when Vegeta first talked about the Super Saiyan the visuals were much closer aligned with the ideas of Broly rather than the super Saiyan form, the raging out of control power is exactly what we have seen with kale and both broly's. In conclusion they have named their forms different things because it's not the form that is legendary Super Saiyan, it is the individual.
Note: People tend to like to think of the Legend of the Super Saiyan as like some kind of prophecy! LSSJ is a name given to OG Broly's unique SSJ form as it resembles the bloodthirsty and violent Super Saiyan of legend! In Universe 7, a 1000 years before Goku when SSJ on Namek, Yamoshi was the original ancient Super Saiyan who fought against the evil Saiyans! He became known for his aggressive manner of fighting! In Universe 7 these two Legends were combined creating the Super Saiyan of legend, a figure of legend distorted over time! Combine that with the existence of Legendary Saiyans, mutant Demon warriors born every century which is what Broly & Kale are, Mutants with power that could easily be mistaken for the Super Saiyan of legend in Universe 7, hence why it was dubbed the Legendary Super Saiyan aka LSSJ! Goku didn't realize some prophecy, as he simply became the first SSJ since Yamoshi to appear in a millennia, as knowledge of basic SSJ form had been lost, which Goku rediscovered! That's my take on all this based upon what I know! Broly's unique SSJ form will always be LSSJ to fans like myself, with his Canon counterpart & Kale both possessing it due to being Mutant Saiyans!
you have the legend of the super saiyan then you have the legendary super saiyan. wording is very important. Goku brought truth to the legend of the super saiyan proving it was possible but broly and kale had a different type of super saiyan caused by a mutation that made their base power astronomically higher than other saiyans. That’s why its legendary because its like finding a new legendary item in a game thats stronger and has more effects than its regular counterpart, think like fallout 4 same type of weapon as its more common counterpart but better overall.
The phrase the legend of the ssj vs the legendary ssj is 2 different meanings. One speaks on the legend of a warrior that reaves the level of ssj , and the other is the level of ssj that is unrivaled amongs them
Makes sense. OG Broly himself was the Legendary SSJ not the form. And currently neither are since their power does indeed have logical explanations (Despite being plot convenient ofc).
The fandom wiki even states that the legendary super saiyan form is a form attained by a saiyan who has attained this unique super saiyan form without a saiyan tail
i feel like the idea of the “legendary super saiyan” devalues the idea of goku becoming a warrior of legend like he does, ruins his and his friends accomplishments, but i do really like the idea of there being this legendary uncontrollable power with the green haired super saiyans nowadays, and not exactly them saying “oh goku ain’t all that”
Wouldn't that do the opposite tbh, sure you can see it the pessimistic way like this, but Legendary Super Saiyan and the Legend of the Super Saiyan being 2 different things would also expand the lore, Instead of Goku being the Legendary Super Saiyan him being the Super Saiyan would be cooler and expand his achievements to new heights, being born of nothing, a Low Class Warrior who was born with a Power level of one surpassing His Races Rightful Ruler (Vegeta), Surpassing the Galactic Tyrant who enslaved his race and devastated them and killed Krillin, and even surpassing a bug made to kill him (well after he was killed but works), overcoming a threat to the entire universe one not even the highest level of Gods could defeat (At the time Beerus was unknown so this wording works), to even Rivaling a God Trillions of times stronger than the Pink Gum Guy who could destroy the universe (and would for shit and giggles Kid Buu was a menace with the Blackest Air Forces), overcoming the revived tyrant again, and so on until he's defeated a being who absorbed an Angel and their powers (Moro), doing all that without being someone special without being a presence without being an Incarnation of Legend would only drive them higher than what they were to being stronger than The Prince who was 100s of times stronger than him at birth, and if Broly is The Legendary Super Saiyan a Individual with Power of legendary proportions power of absolute greater than the entire Universe (Besides Beerus well that is debatable, but him as a moving goal post right now seems to stem that, but him being scared of Broly means he was at least close probably) and Goku being able to rival that Individual from Hard work while being a Nobody well he was getting dogged but he was able to keep up with him and give that being a challenge and in Manga even surpass that, which would make his achievements greater, not weaken them it'd make them grander and just more in many ways then if he were the Legendary Super Saiyan and Broly just being some Mutant, instead of Goku being a nobody who had nothing special but made himself a Legend in his own right despite that
The true legendary super Saiyan was the one who first awoken the form its as simple as that tbh The question of who it was is what we dont know, id like to say its bardock but of course the movie wasnt canon (still would be the coolest option imo) but i guess the best option would have been the first super saiyan god who defeated evil thousands of years ago on planet vageta thus inspiring the legend
“But why’s it green?” “That’s what makes it LEGENDARY.”- TFS
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It’s green when it’s not controlled goku went green in the movie hinting that he lost control for a second
“But cannons don’t drill people” “that’s what makes it SPECIAL”
One could say it’s a blessing and curse of the warrior race.
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OG broly is the only one who can be called Legendary Super Saiyan. We've yet to see a Menace like him.
"we have yet to see a menace like him!"🤓
@@haja.people still using this emoji in 2023 is insane.
@@KAY4ZZI was thinking the same thing
Id like to think they are, mostly cause i like the idea of the legend being true in some way. Plus it gives us a crumb of insight and backstory on this green haired form that we probobly arent going to get before the series ends for good
The end of this comment made me sad.
Yeah… I mean, Broly’s form is easily explainable for the Green hair, Ikari(Wrath State) has a Green color to it, so combining Green with Yellow makes his hair Greenish Yellow.
I mean, Super Saiyan is the legend itself. Also, we do have green ssj
@@2-bit567 ig that could be the case, but its just that it doesn't feel like one considering there are so many all at the same time you know, having only 1 green haired ssj per universe sounds like more of a legend to me
@@2-bit567 Green SSJ isn’t a thing… It was just an artistic thing in DBS Broly to spice up the transformation scenes…
I love the part where boly says "it's berkinh time" and bersked all over the place
Or when or when goku said “its spirit bombin time” and spirit bombed all over everyone
@@Yourmotherisrespectablehe blew it all over us
Cringe
What about when vegeta says "it's banging time" and bangs all over us?
Cringe(2)
Even the normal ssj was called " the legendary super saiyan" so its just a name and i don't think akira would choose a character he didn't create to be a legend instead of goku or vegeta, " not sure about vegeta "
actually no you made a mistake Broly was a character Toriyama likes as not only did he create the character he even made sure to make the character canon in super, while yes Takao Koyama came up with the idea Akira made the design and went so far as to make the character canon.
@@dearstew5457 first, he didn't create broly
second, he made broly canon to the fans' sake, he in fact doesn't like the idea of someone other being the legend than Goku, as he is perfectly fitting in the legend itself
your wrong 1st he was the one who created the design for broly now yes someone else came up with the idea for broly but Toriyama liked the idea then instantly started the design of Broly and by himself made the complete design, also your wrong again as Toriyama Literally said his favorite saiyan was either Broly or Goku@@pdlev1324
@@dearstew5457 He came up with the design for Broly, yes. But it was still Koyama who created Broly.
Super Saiyan and legendary Super Saiyan are not the same thing, we don't even have in universe confirmation that what the characters have is the Super Saiyan of legend, the legendary Super Saiyan it's not a form it's a person, a Saiyan that is far beyond the potential of any normal Saiyan, hence a "super" Saiyan. It would only makes sense that the legendary super Saiyan is an individual rather than a form anyone with Saiyan DNA could use. In the film the doctor states that Broly could even end up being the legendary super Saiyan, they knew what they were doing when they wrote the film and they wouldn't have used that line of the writers didn't mean to make people think that he was the legendary super Saiyan. Then consider the fact that the title of legendary Super Saiyan is permanently linked to Broly, and the film does heavily reference the old version of the character with the green haired form and usage of that title. They specifically make a point to tell you that Broly is the legendary super Saiyan. In addition, when Vegeta first talked about the Super Saiyan the visuals were much closer aligned with the ideas of Broly rather than the super Saiyan form, the raging out of control power is exactly what we have seen with kale and both broly's. In conclusion they have named their forms different things because it's not the form that is legendary Super Saiyan, it is the individual.
I think the “Legendary Super Saiyan” is a Saiyan born with an abnormal potential who can grow stronger by the second just by fighting, taking the Zenkai to a whole new level.
This sums up Broly at least.
OG Broly was glorious. Da real LSS
i dont see any other saiyans with green ssj hair other then The Legendary Super saiyan
But the Legendary SSJ has Golden Hair and even achieved Ultra Instinct😅
@@hoshiryuthat’s a title. The form can be called lssj. Though it would make more sense to be known as a mutated saiyan instead.
@@hoshiryu so even in the games broly’s SSJ transformation was named LSSJ or Legendary Super Saiyan so your incorrect on all of your replies and statements about goku being the LSSJ because that’s only because goku was the first SSJ not LSSJ but they thought it was still LSSJ so they called it that until others started transforming.
@@austin2593 Broly (Z Incarnation and Xeno) is the only Saiyan who has the LSSJ Form
The others are Mutants and the Forms have names like Berserker and Full Power (Berserk is the Form Goku got when Cumber's aura influenced him)
@@O.Tdagoat Goku is THE LSSJ, Broly (Z) has the FORM LSSJ
Yamoshi was a normal saiyan that became a super saiyan and it called legendary because he was a legend
Nah he became the first super saiyan god
@@DJ-xe8clhe was the first ssj not super ssj god?
@@loadshedding_no he was the first Super Saiyan God because we learn about it when they ask shenron about the Super Saiyan god ritual and we see other saiyans channel their energy to turn him into one
@@benogle4951 that was eventually reconned by Toriyama he's now just the Super Saiyan
@@SuperStationCr1 yes sorry I learned about that today, I hadn't had a chance to correct myself yet, seems like a really dumb change in some ways but in other ways I can see why
The old broly was crazy in his first movie
I like to think old broly is kind of new brolys great grandfather
And a top tier shit talker.
I think the legendary super saiyans are just mutated saiyans, if it was such a legend then how come we dont know who was before broly, surely the previous legend was kept in history
Bruh we don't exactly have great info on what happened 10,000 years ago in our world so what makes you believe they would, especially since they are constantly at war so sick knowledge could have easily been destroyed if it was written anywhere and there are many reasons as to why they might not, they could have ended the bloodline and that it wasn't important to keep note of, it could be like the avatar in avatar The last Airbender where it's just sort of random, or it could have been covered up by either the Royal family or Frieza's race as a way to make sure nobody ever got any ideas about challenging them
You see, LSSJ is different then Broly and Kale, they are by all means Mutants
@@hoshiryu idk if that was ment to be sarcastic or an actual person agreeing with me
@@hoshiryu incorrect, they are the legendary super Saiyans, what on earth on you talking about
Well the original legendary super Saiyan was in his great ape form and ended up blowing the planet he was on up and killing himself so I'm not sure how the legend got passed down, maybe the other saiyans with him fled on a space ship and watched the planet blow up but yeah. Also there was yamoshi who went ssj god but that's not who Vegeta was referring to on namek.
“They’re not called Legendary Super Saiyan in the games”
Me, whose last DBZ game was Budokai Tenkaichi 3 on the wii: “but… he was tho.”
He's talking about DBS. Essentially the canon continuity. DBZ Broly can be called a God Of Destruction but whatever he's called, he's still not canon
Kale and DBS Broly aren't in Tenkaichi 3
Super Saiyan and legendary Super Saiyan are not the same thing, we don't even have in universe confirmation that what the characters have is the Super Saiyan of legend, the legendary Super Saiyan it's not a form it's a person, a Saiyan that is far beyond the potential of any normal Saiyan, hence a "super" Saiyan. It would only makes sense that the legendary super Saiyan is an individual rather than a form anyone with Saiyan DNA could use. In the film the doctor states that Broly could even end up being the legendary super Saiyan, they knew what they were doing when they wrote the film and they wouldn't have used that line of the writers didn't mean to make people think that he was the legendary super Saiyan. Then consider the fact that the title of legendary Super Saiyan is permanently linked to Broly, and the film does heavily reference the old version of the character with the green haired form and usage of that title. They specifically make a point to tell you that Broly is the legendary super Saiyan. In addition, when Vegeta first talked about the Super Saiyan the visuals were much closer aligned with the ideas of Broly rather than the super Saiyan form, the raging out of control power is exactly what we have seen with kale and both broly's. In conclusion they have named their forms different things because it's not the form that is legendary Super Saiyan, it is the individual.
Hey, I've worked as a functionality tester on the Budokai Tenkaichi 3 on the Wii.
To all the Fanboys who think Goku is the LSSJ. Look at his forms, look at the forms other saiyans have. See like 10 people using SSJ and tell me that Goku is Legendary in stature and one of a kind. Several saiyans have SSJ 1/2/3
Goku is the lss because he was the 1st ss to appear after over 1000 years
@@claybricks3689 “The legend says it only happens ONCE EVERY THOUSAND YEARS.” We hear this quote from Vegeta countless times. What is Goku the ONLY Saiyan to achieve SSJ?
No his SSJ forms can be reached by 6/7 year olds.
I personally go against calling Kale and super Broly LSSJs because throughout the namek saga in z, they are constantly talking about the legendary super saiyan. Several times in that saga, characters like Vegeta and Ginyu say that Goku could be the legendary super saiyan, but immediately take back what they said because he did not have the bloodlust of the legend. The same goes for Kale and super Broly, because they are not as much bloodthirsty as they are uncontrolled. Z Broly, on the other hand, knew exactly what he was doing, and enjoyed it. He had the bloodlust and power of the legend, as well as the ruthlessness and general enjoyment of watching his enemies be in despair. This is all just my take on it, but the only LSSJ that we have seen so far in my eyes is Z Broly.
Super Saiyan and legendary Super Saiyan are not the same thing, we don't even have in universe confirmation that what the characters have is the Super Saiyan of legend, the legendary Super Saiyan it's not a form it's a person, a Saiyan that is far beyond the potential of any normal Saiyan, hence a "super" Saiyan. It would only makes sense that the legendary super Saiyan is an individual rather than a form anyone with Saiyan DNA could use. In the film the doctor states that Broly could even end up being the legendary super Saiyan, they knew what they were doing when they wrote the film and they wouldn't have used that line of the writers didn't mean to make people think that he was the legendary super Saiyan. Then consider the fact that the title of legendary Super Saiyan is permanently linked to Broly, and the film does heavily reference the old version of the character with the green haired form and usage of that title. They specifically make a point to tell you that Broly is the legendary super Saiyan. In addition, when Vegeta first talked about the Super Saiyan the visuals were much closer aligned with the ideas of Broly rather than the super Saiyan form, the raging out of control power is exactly what we have seen with kale and both broly's. In conclusion they have named their forms different things because it's not the form that is legendary Super Saiyan, it is the individual.
@@benogle4951counterpoint: yo mama
@@hydreigonchungus go do something with your life I'm sure you have more potential than this, don't squander it like a buffoon
@@hydreigonchunguscounter counter point: Nuh uh
I think they refer to Broly and kales forms as “the legendary super saiyan form” because it’s said that the legendary super saiyan is consumed with rage and eventually will self-destruct w their own power like Broly and kale do. This is opposed to the normal super saiyan which doesn’t grant as crazy of a power boost but also allows the user to maintain control
He calls her Legendary Saiyan in the Manga, a different Continuity from the Anime
Also Berserker, Berserk is the form Goku gets when he touches Cumber's Aura
LSSJ grows Infinitly in Power, Berserker grows until the Body can't keep up and then just stops, Full Power grows to a certain Point because that's how much Broly can grow, like how he powered up his Final time (unless he ascends inzo a higher Level) after Shenron was summoned
Hero’s isn’t even canon lmao goku is the legendary super sayain or did y’all just not watch the namek saga
@@CLIVIXX Jokes on you. Canon literally doesn't exist in dragon ball. It's a multiverse made of multiple multiverse each having multiple timelines. It's a *XENOVERSE* everything in one way or another is canon in some way. If a saiyan in dbs with a tail turned golden oozaru and controlled it, *guess* *what* we'd get a ssj4, and even then, it may not be the ssj4 we know.
Vegeta: But Why’s It Green
Paragus: Cause It’s Legendary
Vegeta: OMG HES SOOO GOT DAAAMN COOL!!
But he's so dumb!!!
I don’t listen to technicalities. It’s called LSSJ and I’m sure a majority agree. It’s been called that for decades.
Broly and Kale are the lssjs of their own universes
The only time goku didnt have enough plot armor is when legendary super saiyan was invented in dragon ball
Their power overtakes their personalities and grows exponentially. Broly and Kale both fought with God Ki wielding Saiyans and matched them.
Im pretty sure it’s explained in the more recent Broly movie.
Broly was born with more potential than any saiyan on planet vegeta, including Goku.
Same thing could have possibly occurred with kale.
But I also think it was like this in the original Broly movie (and don’t say Braly) but instead Broly took the power of rage during the explosion of planet vegeta saving him and his father.
Although his title was “the LSSJ”, the other two just have amazing potential, like Gohan does.
I miss old Brolly.
"HES SO DAMN COOL"
-vegeta
But so dumb!!!
I mean Kale has a whole story behind her super saiyan. And a mythos to back it up. IMO This how dnd campaigns are conducted. So she is absolutely the Legendary Super Saiyan as much as anyone else if not nore so cuz you have a character referencing them with well a legend.
L take you can read as much fandom as you want but kale is just a knockoff of broly from another universe. Broly is the legendary super saiyan alone cuz hes been in the story for idk how long. His power is limitless. Even in fusion, kale couldnt even stop Ui goku, but broly gets more powerful the longer the battle. Goku literally had to teach kefla how to reach super saiyan 2😂
@@rolypolyrolliebroly is definitely stronger. But it makes sense for there to be a legendary super sayien just like normal SSJs in universe 6. Why she is so weak compared to broly even tho normal SSJs are much stronger than when goku and vegeta first achieved the form ? Well no one knows that.
@@Gaurav_kattagyancuz poor writing
@@asphyxia8396or maybe cuz brolys older by allot and wasn’t introduced to later in the series if broly was showcased before kale she’d be stronger cuz goku would be
@@Gaurav_kattagyanhonestly I figured it was because she is a lot more timid and shy than broli is. Like broli def is shy but not near as much from what we have seen. Figured the personality could be at least a mild explanation
LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN, always and forever!
Yeah they fit the bill. Unlimited and really uncontrollable levels of power if not for intervention.
"Brolly" lol 😆
(JK man love your vids
Green hair, constantly growing power, ki-enhanced muscles without loss of speed, yeah that's the LSSj form. I think the only reason it's not called that in super is to keep Z Broly more unique since he was not created by Toriyama himself. But I'm still gonna call it that.
I like Kale being the LSSJ of U6, but as for S Broly, I heard a theory his FPSSJ was Super's version of SSJ4, since it's likely a combo of Broly SSJ and his Wrathful state.
This is pretty simple. Brolys hair is green because the character designer wanted it to be so, you can read an interview about it. People read to much into this LSS thing, it's purely a design decision
They can access their inner power more efficiently when they go berserk through what could arguably be a form the complete opposite of ultra instinct
I like goku being the ledgendary saiyan and his home on earth made him the strongest saiyan of his time unlike a normal saiyan who may have destroyed themselves through their anger
This is unrelated but I actually enjoyed Blonde Broly from the second coming movie a lot more. He was smaller/leaner and since his hair was blonde he matched the other sayains aesthetic while still keeping the ancient sayain robes. Green haired Broly was a little too big for my liking as he was ridiculously buff and tall. Kale suffers the same problem but doesn’t have a traditional blonde form her version of “super sayain 1” is still a green haired version with a muscle pump. And Super Broly does have a blonde form that is slightly different since it has no pupils and since Toriyama couldn’t make up his mind on how many sayain forms there should be
Z BROLY STILL DA GOAT 🔥🔥
I still call them legendary just bc I they one of the dopest forms and z broly had that legendary drip
More explainable? Broly went from Saiyan saga vegeta level to T.O.P GOD Goku in his Rage form in minutes
I might as well call this Super Saiyan Berserk
I think the biggest thing to take from ssj is that it is a legendary form in general. Long forgotten by its own people but still rooted in the dna. It doesn't actually take rage or a pure heart to reach it although those can be catalysts. It takes training, understanding energy control and pushing ones self to beyond natural limitations. Once this is done you can awaken latent energy inside the saiyans cells and have them exponentially increase the output of energy from a focused point. Hints why they told the universe 6 sauyans to focus all their energy into their backs.
I dunno personally I think “the legendary supersaiyan” sounds better than “the explainable supersaiyan”
The reason for why they’re called the lssj is not due to the forms im pretty sure they get this title cause of they’re ability to grow more powerful with their anger it would make since dbz,dbs and kale are always angry when in they’re forms unlike goku or vegeta
And the legendary saiyans were thought to be raging monsters which is why broly and kale fit this name
Goku was always, and has always been the legendary super Saiyan. It has been proven time and time again that Goku can surpass anybody he faces even if they are at the peak of what Goku thought he could do
Super saiyan explainable 👍
I always liked that theory of goku being a lssj and it makes sense kinda,
Goku was the first (CANON‼️) person to go ssj in the saiyan race after the legend yamoshi, remember not a single one of the saiyans even knew what ss looked like until on of them, being vegeta, saw goku in the form against frieza
Saiyan race. A race whos names are inspired by Vegetables, only made the most sense the LSSJ is tinted Greenish yellow instead of golden yellow
It's been said before, but ill say it again. The legendary super saiyan, and the super saiyan of legends, are different legends.
I say they are because it helps explains why the two of them can keep up with Vegeta and Goku who have trained for years and have god like powers
Broly and Kale would be great friends
Wrong
@@Rip_Eternal.no it’s not. They would be. They are both shy and both have a great connection to their friends and family
@@jacknickel7765 uh his family is dead 💀
@@Rip_Eternal. Yeah no shit. That’s why I said friends too. 🤡
@@AssholeDevourer Yep
kale was confirmed as being the LSSJ in the manga by Vegeta
Don’t forget about trunks with his “Super Saiyan (Berserk)”
Finally, a youtuber who actually understands
Goku is lssj being goku opened the gates of ssj
Means nothing.
I feel like broly is the legendary super sayian since he never really trained and yet he had all that power far more potential then anyone else
I think of it like a myth that has cropped up around Daiyan prodigies in that it’s “talent that only appears every 1000 years” is the kind of exaggeration you her a lot in anime about such individuals
"What do you think?"
Well why dont we just leave it as lssj because...well...its just better.
Tfs dbz abridged broly movie is the GOAT broly content
"You dont understand! The Legendary Super Saiyan i fueled by a crying infant! HE IS LITERALLY A GIANT FUCKING BABY!"
- a very wise man
Brolys potential is nearly limitless. The more he fights the stronger he gets. Very very fast
My head canon is the “Legendary” form is just autism in saiyans.
Especially if you look at Broly and Kale’s personality. Kinda resembles someone on the spectrum.
But this also makes the characters more relatable to me, since I have diagnosed autism
(And not that self diagnosed shit people do to be “QuIrKy aNd UnIqUe”)
It’s like…the black face of autism
I always thought that the green haired form was a modified Super Saiyan 2, available only to the ones born with this wild "Legendary" gene.
But since it lacks the lightning of SSJ2 and there's a SSJ3 Z Broly, I chalked it up to it actually being a Super Saiyan 1 Grade 5, hence why the games always call Green Hair Super Broly "Full Power".
They have unlocked the quintessential wrathful facets of the Super Saiyan transformation, but it's still much too unrefined to evolve to SSJ2 or 3.
The fact they go beserk just like the legend is what makes them legendary
Id say they're both Mutants and the Legendary Super Saiyan. It would kind of make sense if the Legendary Super saiyan has always been a extremely rare genetic mutation that could never be directely spread because the ones with the gene always died, hence why it would take hundreds or thousands of years until the next one.
Hell maybe Broly and Kale are the next steps in evolution for Saiyans
It's like Berserk oozaru without the transformation
Carthu's dojo already proved that goku is the legendary super saiyan since he was the first one after the original that started the tale, that first one was also most likely bardock.
Carthu is human, he *CAN* be wrong
I think that legendary super sayian is when a sayian is born or just has their oozaru as a base form standard thus giving them intensive and incredible power. With having the oozaru as an base form power level that would basically be saying that they're already closer to their sayian roots. That would also explain how their power level grow immensely, but without proper control and training they end up destroying themselves.
“My name is son goku.. I am the legendary super saiyan!”
Imagine if broly and kale fuse together……
They should have a kid together. The must powerful fighter would be born.
That makes me feel a lot better about Universe 6 saiyans in TOP tbh
Alot of people us the fact that they're called something else in the games, which isnt a good measure since the games have called Super Saiyan 2 "Super Saiyan Rage" and seperated Vegetas forms from regular Super Saiyan, unless they wanna say Vegeta has a completely original and unique form of Super Saiyan
Akira Toriyama didn’t come up with the idea. Broly wasn’t supposed to have green hair either but the original animator of the Z Broly made sure that Super Broly had Green hair to have a throw to the original Broly
Doesn't matter. It's in the movie, it's Canon.
I like to think they are. This form is shown to be extremely rare,only 2 Saiyans have been shown so far to possess it instead of the regular Ssj, and it's also not possible for other Saiyans to reach this form,otherwise Goku and Vegeta would've already done it.
I think they should roll with the prophecy thing.
There might be another berserk kale that’s equal in power to dbs full power broly in an alternate timeline in universe 6, which means if that kale fused with caulifla then kefla’s base form might be on par with ui sign goku or probably surpasses him without being a super saiyan
This makes sense why broly explodes when he got that finishing punch from goku
The original answer is that original concept of LSS was supposed to be just super saiyan, a legend of an ability to transform into a form with great power that far outweighs the transformation of the great ape. The saiyans passed down this legend throughout generations, and it eventually became a myth until Goku transformed. Then the Broly movie, which was noncanon, decided to take the false narrative myth part of the legend-- that a super saying was born every X amount of years-- and made that part reality with a new "true" legendary form.
Then Super decided to possibly[?] make this Canon through Kale and Broly. As of now, it can be thought as just an homage to the original Broly movie since no one outright made the connection to the stories both Vegeta and Frieza were passed down. Until one of these characters states these forms are the actual LSS that the stories were about, we can't say for sure either way.
I full on believe that the legend of the super saiyan was just the ikari state because of the rage. Whis kind of implied too that Goku, vegeta, and their kids were able to attain the yellow hair for its a "recent power they've come up with"
I think that Goku is a legendary Super Saiyan, and that Akira Toriyama was planning to end Dragon Ball in the Namek arc, but the anime continued and Vegeta got a transformation, and then the idea was changed.
Bros overwhelming power is a disability, tuff 🗣
Kale is the universe 6 counterpart of dbz broly which means there’s a kale in a alternate timeline in universe 6 with the same strength as dbs broly
OG Broly is The Legendary, his power level is MAXIMUMER😊
Personally, I like the confusion itself, playing with legends and prophecy.
Goku defeating Freeza seemed to fit the prophecy, so everyone assumed it had been fulfilled and that was that.
Only to later realise they've misinterpreted the prophecy and there really *is* a capital L, *Legendary* super saiyan.
This way Goku defeats Freeza through sheer hardwork and determination ( which is apparently what Goku is all about ) instead of being predestined to do it, but we also get a millennium long prophesied Legendary mutant super warrior.
We get to have it both ways.
Well, according to Battle of Gods, the Legendary Super Saiyan was now a Super Saiyan God, which kind of invalidates the idea of Broly/Kale being it. As well as that weird Bardock going back in time and being it thing.
Be honest, there’s two legendary, super Saiyan, because in the older sagas Freiza and Vegeta said that a normal super Saiyan was a actual legendary super Saiyan
I think there’s something to the LSSJ form where it’s only Legendary because in the past, they could have simply been the ones who could unlock the form easily(ish), unlike most other normal saiyans who couldn’t unlock the gold-haired form
Super Saiyan and legendary Super Saiyan are not the same thing, we don't even have in universe confirmation that what the characters have is the Super Saiyan of legend, the legendary Super Saiyan it's not a form it's a person, a Saiyan that is far beyond the potential of any normal Saiyan, hence a "super" Saiyan. It would only makes sense that the legendary super Saiyan is an individual rather than a form anyone with Saiyan DNA could use. In the film the doctor states that Broly could even end up being the legendary super Saiyan, they knew what they were doing when they wrote the film and they wouldn't have used that line of the writers didn't mean to make people think that he was the legendary super Saiyan. Then consider the fact that the title of legendary Super Saiyan is permanently linked to Broly, and the film does heavily reference the old version of the character with the green haired form and usage of that title. They specifically make a point to tell you that Broly is the legendary super Saiyan. In addition, when Vegeta first talked about the Super Saiyan the visuals were much closer aligned with the ideas of Broly rather than the super Saiyan form, the raging out of control power is exactly what we have seen with kale and both broly's. In conclusion they have named their forms different things because it's not the form that is legendary Super Saiyan, it is the individual.
Note: People tend to like to think of the Legend of the Super Saiyan as like some kind of prophecy! LSSJ is a name given to OG Broly's unique SSJ form as it resembles the bloodthirsty and violent Super Saiyan of legend! In Universe 7, a 1000 years before Goku when SSJ on Namek, Yamoshi was the original ancient Super Saiyan who fought against the evil Saiyans! He became known for his aggressive manner of fighting! In Universe 7 these two Legends were combined creating the Super Saiyan of legend, a figure of legend distorted over time! Combine that with the existence of Legendary Saiyans, mutant Demon warriors born every century which is what Broly & Kale are, Mutants with power that could easily be mistaken for the Super Saiyan of legend in Universe 7, hence why it was dubbed the Legendary Super Saiyan aka LSSJ!
Goku didn't realize some prophecy, as he simply became the first SSJ since Yamoshi to appear in a millennia, as knowledge of basic SSJ form had been lost, which Goku rediscovered!
That's my take on all this based upon what I know! Broly's unique SSJ form will always be LSSJ to fans like myself, with his Canon counterpart & Kale both possessing it due to being Mutant Saiyans!
Love DBZ broly.
you have the legend of the super saiyan then you have the legendary super saiyan. wording is very important.
Goku brought truth to the legend of the super saiyan proving it was possible but broly and kale had a different type of super saiyan caused by a mutation that made their base power astronomically higher than other saiyans. That’s why its legendary because its like finding a new legendary item in a game thats stronger and has more effects than its regular counterpart, think like fallout 4 same type of weapon as its more common counterpart but better overall.
Yes They are the legendary super Saiyans.just from different universes
The phrase the legend of the ssj vs the legendary ssj is 2 different meanings. One speaks on the legend of a warrior that reaves the level of ssj , and the other is the level of ssj that is unrivaled amongs them
Makes sense. OG Broly himself was the Legendary SSJ not the form. And currently neither are since their power does indeed have logical explanations (Despite being plot convenient ofc).
I Agree with you
"the old brawly" 😭😭
Fun fact cumber the non cannon charectar was lssj before broly
Vegeta said “saiyan’s” not plural singular which means exclusive and to Kale and Broly by extension
The fandom wiki even states that the legendary super saiyan form is a form attained by a saiyan who has attained this unique super saiyan form without a saiyan tail
I think that the hair color resembles something different
i feel like the idea of the “legendary super saiyan” devalues the idea of goku becoming a warrior of legend like he does, ruins his and his friends accomplishments, but i do really like the idea of there being this legendary uncontrollable power with the green haired super saiyans nowadays, and not exactly them saying “oh goku ain’t all that”
Wouldn't that do the opposite tbh, sure you can see it the pessimistic way like this, but Legendary Super Saiyan and the Legend of the Super Saiyan being 2 different things would also expand the lore, Instead of Goku being the Legendary Super Saiyan him being the Super Saiyan would be cooler and expand his achievements to new heights, being born of nothing, a Low Class Warrior who was born with a Power level of one surpassing His Races Rightful Ruler (Vegeta), Surpassing the Galactic Tyrant who enslaved his race and devastated them and killed Krillin, and even surpassing a bug made to kill him (well after he was killed but works), overcoming a threat to the entire universe one not even the highest level of Gods could defeat (At the time Beerus was unknown so this wording works), to even Rivaling a God Trillions of times stronger than the Pink Gum Guy who could destroy the universe (and would for shit and giggles Kid Buu was a menace with the Blackest Air Forces), overcoming the revived tyrant again, and so on until he's defeated a being who absorbed an Angel and their powers (Moro), doing all that without being someone special without being a presence without being an Incarnation of Legend would only drive them higher than what they were to being stronger than The Prince who was 100s of times stronger than him at birth, and if Broly is The Legendary Super Saiyan a Individual with Power of legendary proportions power of absolute greater than the entire Universe (Besides Beerus well that is debatable, but him as a moving goal post right now seems to stem that, but him being scared of Broly means he was at least close probably) and Goku being able to rival that Individual from Hard work while being a Nobody well he was getting dogged but he was able to keep up with him and give that being a challenge and in Manga even surpass that, which would make his achievements greater, not weaken them it'd make them grander and just more in many ways then if he were the Legendary Super Saiyan and Broly just being some Mutant, instead of Goku being a nobody who had nothing special but made himself a Legend in his own right despite that
The title relates to some one so strong that they end up dieing because of it and their anger so yes
The true legendary super Saiyan was the one who first awoken the form its as simple as that tbh
The question of who it was is what we dont know, id like to say its bardock but of course the movie wasnt canon (still would be the coolest option imo) but i guess the best option would have been the first super saiyan god who defeated evil thousands of years ago on planet vageta thus inspiring the legend