Filipinos loves every Mexican fighters he fought too.. one thing that Manny and Mexican Fighters have in common is they ducked on nobody, and their fights are far more entertaining and skill showcase than the one he has with floyd
Pacman is truly a human being to behold. He helped so many people and gave aspiring boxers a good moral lesson from his humble beginnings. He also taught the highest level of sportsmanship and staying humble. He was dirt poor in a 3rd world country but his sports etiquette is 1st class
Not only that he tried to run for president to help his fellow country men. But unfortunately Philippines dirty politics is too much for a pure hearted simple boxer. I'm glad he lost the elections and nothing was stained in his name
@@lordlopikong6940 I found it odd that the president of the Philippines is the son of a dictator who was the president of the Philippines under martial law. Strange really. Would have preferred Manny.
Floyd is levels above manny in skill and resume. manny pacqiuou has to be the most overrated boxer because he was a steroid taker and a duck .🦆 manny is the same clown who weight drained cotto and fought him at a catchweight after cotto suffered a brutal beating to margarito. Manny is the same clown who fought an old Oscar dela Hoya at 147 (A weight class Oscar didn’t compete in for for 11 years) he fought a passed prime ricky Hatton who was having suicidal thoughts after losing to Floyd. Manny fought an old sugar Shane Mosley after Floyd beat him a year prior (when he was ranked number 1 at welterweight) manny ducked Floyd in 2009 by refusing the drug tests (and even his own trainer Freddie roach admitted that it was their fault on why the fight didn’t happen) also in the same exact year Manny pacqiuou ducked Mosley at 140. Manny pacqiuou fought a Brandon rios who was coming off of a loss, he fought a passed prime weight drained margarito who was coming off of a brutal beating to sugar Shane Mosley ( the same man he ducked a year prior) Manny pacqiuou is the same clown who got destroyed by a passed prime Erik morales who was coming off of a loss to Antonio Barrera 😂 Manny pacqiuou then fought Morales in a rematch but this time he made Morales move down in weight after he was coming off of a loss to Zahir Raheem (a journeyman) just so he can gain an advantage. Manny pacqiuou is the same clown who fought Adrien broner who was coming off of a loss to mikey Garcia. Manny pacqiuou is the same clown who fought Jessie Vargas who was coming off of a big loss to Timothy Bradley😂 I don’t understand how manny pacqiuou can get away with all of this but yet I’m the one who’s going to get labelled as a “hater” 🤦🏻♂️ also it’s funny how they call him a 8 division world champion when he’s not. The titles he won at 126 and 140 wasn’t recognised in the 4 governing bodies therefore he’s 6 division champ. 😂 manny pacqiuous greatest achievement was getting compared to floyd.
Man Max actually know his shit on boxing , they throw him on UFC cards sometimes & he’s like a fish out of water but it’s cool to see him in his element discussing his topic.
@@mexicanigorditosprro7378 skipped 2 divisions because no one wants to fight him. The same why he keeps moving up divisions theres no one wants to fight him.
His accomplishments are greater than Mayweather, so you can definitely call him the greater fighter. At the same time, in their prime and naturally the same size still not sure he would beat Mayweather... still not sure anybody can hit Mayweather enough to win a fight against him.
He won against Mayweather if u look at the judging rubric. But that's why Mayweather always fought in Vegas I don't blame him though. Mayweather has always worn his heart on his sleeve, and the look of betrayal on his face when he got robbed at like 17 in the Olympics...I'll never forget it
everyone truly knows that the Mayweather Pacquiao fight should have happened 7 years earlier when Pac Man was in his prime but Mayweather kept dodging him till Manny was too old and less fast to be at his greatest anymore.
This is America. Nothings built on truth. Don't get me wrong, Floyds a fantastic fighter but...... He's also a promotor. Thats like mike tyson doing fusion haa with Don King.
Nobody cares about those first 3 divisions name someone with a big name he fought from those weight classes, name one that was considered a great fighter, ill wait
@@gatorflash123 What do you mean “nobody cares” boxing fans around the world care, the weight divisions he climbed led him to an impressive powerhouse of the welterweight division what Pacquiao has achieved will be in the history books forever. You can wait as long as you like HATER
@@HelenHelen-yj1jw of course I can cuz u still ain't name one great fighter je fought at them weight classes smfh yall basically saying floyd isn't as good or better because he couldn't get that small lmfaoooo smh I guess facts sound like hate to an idiot smh
@@gatorflash123 Floyd only goat on American soil. Pacquiao everywhere. Sure their resume is different but Pacquiao will be recognized in a positive way while Mayweather will not. Mayweather is just gonna be recognized like many other undefeated champion that has 0 in their record. Pacman became 8 division champ and build up his character along the way, he has people's love and admiration for it. Mayweather can't compare to that, I'll agree Mayweather is a better boxer, he beat pacman, but he won't be as great as pacman. Pacman made himself the original 8 division champ, Mayweather just copy paste himself as an undefeated champion like any other past boxer in history. If Mayweather becomes 8 division undefeated champion, his legacy will be greater but unfortunately that is not the case. There are so many black undefeated boxer that retired and Mayweather will just be shoved alongside them, only difference is he made hella money out of being a boxer compared to other boxer, "money Mayweather". Pacman will be the original 8 division champ that no black,Latino, or white has done in history. Pacman legacy will be great just like Tyson, Ali and other great boxer. Mayweather a boxing businessman, he is very popular in america, but he doesn't have much fan outside America though he don't care about it since america is where he make most of his money.
No he’s not 😂 manny pacqiuou fought more out of prime fighters than Floyd so you’re whole argument is useless also manny got knocked out by a out of prime 40 year old old Marquez 💀 Floyd has never fought a fighter above the age of 40 but manny fought 4 fighters above the age of 40. Can you imagine if Floyd got knocked out by a 40 year old? The internet would go crazy but since it’s been pacqiuou it’s okay. Remember this Manny will never be on Floyd’s level
Pacman was an 8 division world champion, if that’s not a pound for pound great, I don’t know what is. At the time, I disliked him for beating up on my Mexican brothers but now when I look back at it and having matured, I regret not having appreciated him as much as I should have because the man was an ALL-TIME LEGEND!!!!
No respectable boxing fan would count that 8th division "title". First off, it was a vacant belt, which means he didn't beat a champion for it, and secondly, he won it by beating a man (Margarito) who not only just came off a suspension for cheating, but a man who was 1-1 in his last two fights, one of those losses being a VICIOUS KO loss to Mosley, and he was NOT even ranked at 154, to top it off, it was a bogus catch-weight fight.
I DO NOT CARE WHAT NONSENSE THESE PPL ARE SAYING THERE ARE 0 8 DIVISION WORLD CHAMPIONS U CANNOT WIN A A RING TITLE AND TO BE A DIV CHAMP U MUST HAVE A BELT FROM THE BIG 4 DIVISIONS RICKY HATTON , AND ERIK DID NOT HAVE SUCH BELTS. STOP SPREADING THESE LIES.
Max was schooled by the last titans of boxing knowledge. Jim L., Howard Letterman, not to mention the great Emanuel Steward. He knows this stuff. Edit: Noted by a keen eye, Harold Letterman. Sorry for the miss there.
Pacquiao donates a lot of his money, he built a whole village for people who lost their homes in the flood. He himself was a street kid, as poor as you can get. He rose from that to this point. People literally drop everything in Philippines to watch him fight. Crime rates drop everytime he fights. It's not just the belts that make him great. It's his legacy
@@coolyungdru How did you come to that conclusion? I mean other than hating on somebody's success? he's the one investigating and exposing the government of corruption and looking for the pandemic aid that was supposed to be given to the victims
@@AD25076 Born and raised in the third world. I understand how those govt officials operate. In other words, if Manny went against the grain he would be dead by now.
His honest opinion does not necessarily translate to truth or accuracy. He is wrong to say one man would beat another for certain if they were the same size, the world pushed for it, he lost, they all made excuses Smaller men have a longer way to climb and frow in claiming titles, a heavyweight can likely only have one weight division title
@@RemnantPriest Roy Jones Jr did a Middle, Light-Heavy. I'm aware that it can be done was just making a reference that if you are of that size already, born a big man, no where to go unless you started really early, not sure if Tyson was ever a middle weight, prob not as Gus got him late. Max made a blatant assumption that he cannot cash for certain, Pac got beaten by an older Floyd and Max is making excuses about "the fact that it was even close" If you cannot land on Floyd what does it matter, he won't lose.
@@TEMUJINARTS thanks bro. Sugar Ray Robinson was one of the best dancing boxers out there and probably considered one of the best boxers of all time p4p. I could never make a blanket statement that with all his skilletand gifts if he was born the same size as Ali that he would beat him as being born that size would completely change his boxing composition. Max is being emotional because he has a favourite or does not like Floyd or maybe he is just straight clouting. Pac prior accomplishments mean nothing if he cannot beat the man in front of him, it's not a medals contest (the silliness of too many belts these days). If you cannot land as the lighter man you aren't going you land as a slightly heavier one. Floyd dubbed himself TBE because of the numbers he pulled, because of his ability to get hit the least and his return hit ratio and fight IQ. As the stats back him I'm not going to argue him. Nothing to do with emotion, everything to do with logic.
@@Only2GendersCommonSensewell it’s debatable who won, most would actually say pacquio won but yk how boxing goes with judges, just look at loma vs haney
If we go by your logic, my neighbor who was a pro boxer, but now retired, having a 3-0 record is better than ali, sugar ray robinson, and pac bec my neighbor is undefeated.
Who do you think is the best from what he said? he said couldn’t make weight? and he said naturally? The part where he said floyd is the best but pac is in the convo
@theblackcosmonaut2482 Yeah after Floyd ducked him til Pac was way out of his prime. Can't say it's not true because that's exactly what fragile hands had to do to barely win. He also isnt 50-0. He's lost 4 of those fights. I guess That's what rigged judging and fighting in LA your whole career gets you though. Not real victories, fraudulent victories. 😂 💯
@@KrucialThirteen see, its impossible. But for Manny its possible. Thats why he was called "one and only 8 div champ in the history of your planet" you fool.
@ricardoparrott4570 cause manny is an athletic explosive fighter and he waited for him to slow down Floyd took way less damage in his career too I mean the answer is pretty obvious unless you have autism or a biased black boy
@@Rs3mocha white boy the asian god his ass beat by the black man facts and yes didn’t take a lot of punishment because the name of the game is to hit and not get hit who stands there and let someone hit them y’all dumb
Lots of people are making fun of Manny in our country, mostly politicians or rich people, but never did he retaliate in a harsh way. He always kept it together.
Floyd is levels above manny in skill and resume. manny pacqiuou has to be the most overrated boxer because he was a steroid taker and a duck .🦆 manny is the same clown who weight drained cotto and fought him at a catchweight after cotto suffered a brutal beating to margarito. Manny is the same clown who fought an old Oscar dela Hoya at 147 (A weight class Oscar didn’t compete in for for 11 years) he fought a passed prime ricky Hatton who was having suicidal thoughts after losing to Floyd. Manny fought an old sugar Shane Mosley after Floyd beat him a year prior (when he was ranked number 1 at welterweight) manny ducked Floyd in 2009 by refusing the drug tests (and even his own trainer Freddie roach admitted that it was their fault on why the fight didn’t happen) also in the same exact year Manny pacqiuou ducked Mosley at 140. Manny pacqiuou fought a Brandon rios who was coming off of a loss, he fought a passed prime weight drained margarito who was coming off of a brutal beating to sugar Shane Mosley ( the same man he ducked a year prior) Manny pacqiuou is the same clown who got destroyed by a passed prime Erik morales who was coming off of a loss to Antonio Barrera 😂 Manny pacqiuou then fought Morales in a rematch but this time he made Morales move down in weight after he was coming off of a loss to Zahir Raheem (a journeyman) just so he can gain an advantage. Manny pacqiuou is the same clown who fought Adrien broner who was coming off of a loss to mikey Garcia. Manny pacqiuou is the same clown who fought Jessie Vargas who was coming off of a big loss to Timothy Bradley😂 I don’t understand how manny pacqiuou can get away with all of this but yet I’m the one who’s going to get labelled as a “hater” 🤦🏻♂️ also it’s funny how they call him a 8 division world champion when he’s not. The titles he won at 126 and 140 wasn’t recognised in the 4 governing bodies therefore he’s 6 division champ. 😂 manny pacqiuous greatest achievement was getting compared to floyd.
At least Pac doesn't take the spotlight away from other fighters. Humbleness outweighs someone that has to gratify themselves. Even Tyson gives due-respect to the past.
If you're great, there is *nothing* wrong with letting it be known. Y'all only love "humbleness" in defeat. Tyson also referred to himself as the best *while active.* If I'm better than you, I don't need to stroke your ego by pretending that I'm not.
@@shacourbrissett9625 If you truly Great, you don't need to say it yourself, cuz People will already know. It's Mayweathers' endless boring "Egotistical Undefeated & look how dirt rich I am BS Rant", that makes people dislike him. Lastly you cannot be considered the Greatest in a sport that is about fighting your opponent if all you did was run away, hug & defend your whole Career.
@DonnyValentineOfficial That's what people say when they feel overwhelmed by the truth of someone else's greatness. *Muhammad Ali* told *everyone* he was great. Is he "truly" great? *Mike Tyson* LITERALLY went on a whole monologue about being the best ever. Is he not "truly" great? *Usain Bolt* boasted about his greatness while active. Is he not "truly" great? The reality is that people like you simply hate the confidence and honesty of people who unapologetically state who and what they are. It's the same reason why there is always this obsession with "humbleness" in relation to defeat.
Floyd retired young,rich and undefeated been that over 20yrs fought everyone no path to succeed is the same Paq is a great champion also both these men did alot for the sport🥊🥊🏆
Pac is the antithesis of Mayweather. Humble, zero arrogance, doesn't flaunt his winnings or brag about himself, builds hospitals and schools, and brings clean water supply to villages. Floyd buys jewelry and carries a million around in a designer bag.
Floyd does a lot for the community!!! If you just take the time to do your research then you would maybe wouldn’t hate on Floyd !!!!! Floyd is the goat!!!
U dont know boxing MAYWEATHER is older then MANNY and also it was MANNYS fault him and FLOYD didnt fight althou FLOYD would of beat the brakes of him if they fought earlier
50-0 is achievable when you have a great manager who can choose and dodge any opponents you want. 8 Division champion is a great achievement if you ask me
And why are u talking about Mayweather? I thought this was about Manny. Oh and 8 division champ is easy when the belts are vacant and u may or may not take steroids.
@@aramisdavis6055 stop crying, it was never been proved that he was on steroids, but what about Floyd?? dodging opponents until they're out of shape? game fixing? he should have lost to Maidana and Pacquiao 😂😂
@@xD0100 You dumb, and I don’t debate with fools. I’ll give you this though. Floyd fought and beat these so called washed up guys and then Manny fought them after. And crying??? Nothing to cry about. Floyd beat Manny. The end! ✌️
@@xD0100We don't speak out of emotions. Pacquiao is 2 years older then Mayweather. They'd attempted to fight 4 times prior, but, Pacquiao wouldn't put up the money. Simple not complicated. At a certain point in folks career, you're money motivated. Second, controlling water weight isn't fixing. It's understanding commonsense. 3rd Pacquiao isn't known for wanting to be tested for steroids. Mayweather passes his tests. Including for the Olympics that check going back a year in your brain stem. Anything else, opinion based?
Doing what Floyd did? You could see an up and coming boxer beating 23 world champion boxers? Becoming the highest paid boxer? Beating Manny? Staying undefeated while fighting the best of the best?
@toptiertech7291 yep. More belts means more tomato cans can claim champion status. The money increases from generation to generation. And fighters can go undefeated under the right circumstances or contracts.
@@LMLR187so if it's easy...why can't other boxers fight tomato cans and do the same lol. 23 champions are tomato cans now.?? Y'all allow race to sway your opinions on boxers. It's crazy and funny lol
I don't want to start a war but personally I think Duran beats Manny. Its just my opinion but Just being able to go 15 rounds with Marvelous Marvin who is natural Middleweight is insane. I think Duran doesn't get the respect he deserves sometimes. All that being said I love Manny and it would be a great fight no matter what.
Their talking about p4p not who beat who or who beat more champion I wish fan were knowlagbbe about the difference instead of generalizing everything into one thing
@@kaysohndavis8103 Floyd got caught using IV PEDs. Floyd beat more world champions yeah but if Pacquiao can choose his opponent like Floyd( coz he is the Promoter himself) Pacquiao could easily beat that record. Bob Arum is the one who pick his opponent.
People also miss he’s the only fighter in history to be a champion in four decades. 1990’s, 2000’s, 2010’s and 2020’s.
And to be suspected to be on steroids.
Sir, 2020’s is a decade now? I’m fucking dead bury me tell my mom i wont be home for dinner no more give it to the dog
He never won a belt from 2020- now bro chill
Going up weight classes under a year with 8 pack abs. Feel the power.
@@joeblowschmo7542Floyd 🧃 lmao
Max is a boxing knowledge beast. Miss seeing him on air especially in the boxing scene. Him on HBO boxing was always fire.
He's an ex news anchor who does his homework.
he’s is not 😂
@@IsmokeHiphopLivesuck on it boy
Yeh his brother covered boxing till he was murdered……
u triggered some girls in the comsec🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mexico loves Pacquiao! 🇲🇽 Saludos Manny, we have nothing but admiration for the living legend.
we dont give af
He's Asian calm down
Because yall racist!
💯💯🙌🏼❤️
Filipinos loves every Mexican fighters he fought too.. one thing that Manny and Mexican Fighters have in common is they ducked on nobody, and their fights are far more entertaining and skill showcase than the one he has with floyd
Pacman is truly a human being to behold. He helped so many people and gave aspiring boxers a good moral lesson from his humble beginnings. He also taught the highest level of sportsmanship and staying humble. He was dirt poor in a 3rd world country but his sports etiquette is 1st class
Not only that he tried to run for president to help his fellow country men. But unfortunately Philippines dirty politics is too much for a pure hearted simple boxer. I'm glad he lost the elections and nothing was stained in his name
@@lordlopikong6940yeye just be senator manny
@@lordlopikong6940 I found it odd that the president of the Philippines is the son of a dictator who was the president of the Philippines under martial law. Strange really. Would have preferred Manny.
You will never hear pacman bragged about his achievements in boxing . Humble man
Facts
@@ronin8741manny is a disgrace
Floyd is levels above manny in skill and resume. manny pacqiuou has to be the most overrated boxer because he was a steroid taker and a duck .🦆 manny is the same clown who weight drained cotto and fought him at a catchweight after cotto suffered a brutal beating to margarito. Manny is the same clown who fought an old Oscar dela Hoya at 147 (A weight class Oscar didn’t compete in for for 11 years) he fought a passed prime ricky Hatton who was having suicidal thoughts after losing to Floyd. Manny fought an old sugar Shane Mosley after Floyd beat him a year prior (when he was ranked number 1 at welterweight) manny ducked Floyd in 2009 by refusing the drug tests (and even his own trainer Freddie roach admitted that it was their fault on why the fight didn’t happen) also in the same exact year Manny pacqiuou ducked Mosley at 140. Manny pacqiuou fought a Brandon rios who was coming off of a loss, he fought a passed prime weight drained margarito who was coming off of a brutal beating to sugar Shane Mosley ( the same man he ducked a year prior) Manny pacqiuou is the same clown who got destroyed by a passed prime Erik morales who was coming off of a loss to Antonio Barrera 😂 Manny pacqiuou then fought Morales in a rematch but this time he made Morales move down in weight after he was coming off of a loss to Zahir Raheem (a journeyman) just so he can gain an advantage. Manny pacqiuou is the same clown who fought Adrien broner who was coming off of a loss to mikey Garcia. Manny pacqiuou is the same clown who fought Jessie Vargas who was coming off of a big loss to Timothy Bradley😂 I don’t understand how manny pacqiuou can get away with all of this but yet I’m the one who’s going to get labelled as a “hater” 🤦🏻♂️ also it’s funny how they call him a 8 division world champion when he’s not. The titles he won at 126 and 140 wasn’t recognised in the 4 governing bodies therefore he’s 6 division champ. 😂 manny pacqiuous greatest achievement was getting compared to floyd.
Floyd gets paid to brag lol
Exactly
Man Max actually know his shit on boxing , they throw him on UFC cards sometimes & he’s like a fish out of water but it’s cool to see him in his element discussing his topic.
I never seen him on a ufc card..? Lol
lmao he knows nothing
@@goalposthead79about boxing???
@@qdogg211he definitely know a lot about knowing nothing 😂
@@allidoiswin9891me neither I think poster and others are thinking about when he does short post fight commentary on it on ESPN
Indisputable facts. A truly historic fighter. We'll be lucky to see another like him.
there will never be someone like him ever again
Max knows boxing so well. Dude is a real boxing historian and knows the sport so well.
Stephen A Smith hates how logical and educated Max speaks.
Love it 😂
Is that why Stephen A. has accomplished more in his professional career than Max?
He’s wrong here with all the education
@@24kobe243yes because he appeals to the lowest common denominator - the dumbest and most uneducated sports fans.
Your thought process is myopic, Did you see him knock out any one after Floyd called him out for a different blood test for drugs ??😂😂😂
A lot of people don’t realise what ‘Pound for Pound’ actually means
8 division champion? Could have been 10 but skipped 2, if that’s not pfp idk what it is
I just need some fries w that
@@mexicanigorditosprro7378 skipped 2 divisions because no one wants to fight him. The same why he keeps moving up divisions theres no one wants to fight him.
His accomplishments are greater than Mayweather, so you can definitely call him the greater fighter. At the same time, in their prime and naturally the same size still not sure he would beat Mayweather... still not sure anybody can hit Mayweather enough to win a fight against him.
He won against Mayweather if u look at the judging rubric. But that's why Mayweather always fought in Vegas
I don't blame him though. Mayweather has always worn his heart on his sleeve, and the look of betrayal on his face when he got robbed at like 17 in the Olympics...I'll never forget it
I’m not a big Kellerman fan but damn it, he knows boxing for sure💯
Now, if they were the same size, naturally is the nuance!! I have to agree with Max on that part
Facts. Even Floyd agreed w/ this saying there’s no boxer who moved 8 divisions and became champ.
Floyd was being sarcastic. How tF does a human go up 50 pounds as an adult and keep the power all the way up there in weight? 💉
@@MrYodeezybro shut up
@@MrYodeezywhere Floyd is now not important unlike Manny he's a senator loser
@@MrYodeezyby your logic everyone who moved up in weight is on the juice
@@MrYodeezy From the age of 16 to nearly 40 years old as a world champion? Easy, if you're a once in a lifetime talent like Pacquiao.
The Pac-man deserves respect!
everyone truly knows that the Mayweather Pacquiao fight should have happened 7 years earlier when Pac Man was in his prime but Mayweather kept dodging him till Manny was too old and less fast to be at his greatest anymore.
@@wbass243after Marquez KOd pac then that’s when he agreed to fight him.
@@wbass243that’s not true Floyd told him to do a steroid test and manny didn’t want to. Clearly because he was on steroids.
This is America. Nothings built on truth. Don't get me wrong, Floyds a fantastic fighter but...... He's also a promotor. Thats like mike tyson doing fusion haa with Don King.
Floyd actively admits that he waited for the right time knowing he could beat Pacquiao
Warrior vs. Business man! One is a true warrior and a true champion, the other is a businessman who picks and chooses his fights to that 50-0 record.
This man speaks the truth! PAC MAN IS A REAL BEAST! favorite (living) boxer, hands down. The heart, the determination, the skill, THE SPEED.🤯🥶
Pacman is a honey badger, a wolverine of the boxing world.
He may be but he didn't beat Mayweather
@@antwaindozier1857well he didn't run away either. Unlike.
hugs and runs have more scores than punches in that fight😂
@@antwaindozier1857 He won in 3 more divisions.
Well he's still the better fighter 💯💯💯💯💯💯
Finally some well earned respect for the Pac man
Pac gets respect, it's his fan's that cause the hate
Also worth noting that mayweather is an absolute turd of a human.
He ducked any real competitor and then pretends he’s the best. .
Roids, roids, roids, roids.
@@jorgeGonzalez-sk1zyfloyd is money money money
He lost, but he still is a legend and still gets respect.
The whole world loves Pacquiao the only 8 division world champion ever now that’s something nobody’s gonna forget 👏🏼
Nobody cares about those first 3 divisions name someone with a big name he fought from those weight classes, name one that was considered a great fighter, ill wait
@@gatorflash123 What do you mean “nobody cares” boxing fans around the world care, the weight divisions he climbed led him to an impressive powerhouse of the welterweight division what Pacquiao has achieved will be in the history books forever. You can wait as long as you like HATER
@@HelenHelen-yj1jw of course I can cuz u still ain't name one great fighter je fought at them weight classes smfh yall basically saying floyd isn't as good or better because he couldn't get that small lmfaoooo smh I guess facts sound like hate to an idiot smh
@@gatorflash123 Don’t be rude I ain’t no idiot, I knew you were a Floyd fanboy 50-0 DMS 😂
@@gatorflash123 Floyd only goat on American soil. Pacquiao everywhere. Sure their resume is different but Pacquiao will be recognized in a positive way while Mayweather will not. Mayweather is just gonna be recognized like many other undefeated champion that has 0 in their record. Pacman became 8 division champ and build up his character along the way, he has people's love and admiration for it. Mayweather can't compare to that, I'll agree Mayweather is a better boxer, he beat pacman, but he won't be as great as pacman. Pacman made himself the original 8 division champ, Mayweather just copy paste himself as an undefeated champion like any other past boxer in history. If Mayweather becomes 8 division undefeated champion, his legacy will be greater but unfortunately that is not the case. There are so many black undefeated boxer that retired and Mayweather will just be shoved alongside them, only difference is he made hella money out of being a boxer compared to other boxer, "money Mayweather". Pacman will be the original 8 division champ that no black,Latino, or white has done in history. Pacman legacy will be great just like Tyson, Ali and other great boxer. Mayweather a boxing businessman, he is very popular in america, but he doesn't have much fan outside America though he don't care about it since america is where he make most of his money.
His the best boxer ever for me 🙏👏
Duran eats him alive at lightweight!
@@xctkillaprodigyx2586😂
You forgot that Pacquiao has a lot of side quests. He's an Actor, Singer, Politician, and Basketball player.
this prob shouldn’t matter in a discussion about boxing but like yea Pacquiao is just wayyyyy cooler of a dude
And he’s an adulterer, tax dodger, and steroid user!
Didn’t he drop a 30 point triple double in some charity game? 😂
He’s also not a bad pool player, I mean he’s from the Philippines. They love their billiards.
Philippines are crazy about basketball am yet to see one who's not a fan of basketball.
Pacquiao is what a true fighter is. He fought to feed his family and ended up a champion. He's a goat for sure.
No he’s not 😂 manny pacqiuou fought more out of prime fighters than Floyd so you’re whole argument is useless also manny got knocked out by a out of prime 40 year old old Marquez 💀 Floyd has never fought a fighter above the age of 40 but manny fought 4 fighters above the age of 40. Can you imagine if Floyd got knocked out by a 40 year old? The internet would go crazy but since it’s been pacqiuou it’s okay. Remember this Manny will never be on Floyd’s level
@@raaxdrizzio9975sums up your life huh
@@raaxdrizzio9975manny is a fighter unlike the dodger mayweather
@@fF-jb4gs manny gets knocked out by 40 year olds so I can’t call him a fighter 😂😂
@@My_Arse how
Max is rapping like he used to the beat was fire
Pacquiao is a great fighter. They both are great fighters. Let's face it, as boxing fans we need stuff to talk about. Great conversation guys.🤜🤛
Pacman was an 8 division world champion, if that’s not a pound for pound great, I don’t know what is. At the time, I disliked him for beating up on my Mexican brothers but now when I look back at it and having matured, I regret not having appreciated him as much as I should have because the man was an ALL-TIME LEGEND!!!!
No respectable boxing fan would count that 8th division "title". First off, it was a vacant belt, which means he didn't beat a champion for it, and secondly, he won it by beating a man (Margarito) who not only just came off a suspension for cheating, but a man who was 1-1 in his last two fights, one of those losses being a VICIOUS KO loss to Mosley, and he was NOT even ranked at 154, to top it off, it was a bogus catch-weight fight.
Bro that 110 pound shit don’t count lol n***a was boxing 16 year olds 😂
@@dodxrty20bro was like 14??? And still 110 wym it don’t count
Honestly belts on different divisions isn't super important on p4p list. You discount so many heavy weights that had great styles.
I DO NOT CARE WHAT NONSENSE THESE PPL ARE SAYING THERE ARE 0 8 DIVISION WORLD CHAMPIONS U CANNOT WIN A A RING TITLE AND TO BE A DIV CHAMP U MUST HAVE A BELT FROM THE BIG 4 DIVISIONS RICKY HATTON , AND ERIK DID NOT HAVE SUCH BELTS. STOP SPREADING THESE LIES.
Max was schooled by the last titans of boxing knowledge. Jim L., Howard Letterman, not to mention the great Emanuel Steward. He knows this stuff.
Edit:
Noted by a keen eye, Harold Letterman. Sorry for the miss there.
HBO boxing was the shit, miss those end of the year wrap up marathons
I think you got the definition of schooled wrong. I think you mean taught.
@@MisterK-YT you're thinking of the slang definition not the dictionary definition - both are valid.
Harold*
Max was not schooled. He schooled them people 😂
Max is right 💯👍
Gotta respect max and his insights on boxing. The guy know his shit.
Pacquiao donates a lot of his money, he built a whole village for people who lost their homes in the flood. He himself was a street kid, as poor as you can get. He rose from that to this point. People literally drop everything in Philippines to watch him fight. Crime rates drop everytime he fights. It's not just the belts that make him great. It's his legacy
And embezzling money like most third world politicians.
@@coolyungdru How did you come to that conclusion? I mean other than hating on somebody's success? he's the one investigating and exposing the government of corruption and looking for the pandemic aid that was supposed to be given to the victims
@@AD25076
Born and raised in the third world. I understand how those govt officials operate. In other words, if Manny went against the grain he would be dead by now.
@@coolyungdruhow! Do you have proofs to prove your assertion, dude? 🤨🤨🤨
@@rainierdy2808
Yeah! Let's meet at a secured location so you can be properly debriefed. I must warn you though, these files are classified.
I can’t believe ESPN fired this dude…
Yeah that was crazy
Cuz he don’t know about sports, just boxing 😂
stephen a didnt want him
You should've supported all of his stuff. ESPN would've kept him.
Facts.
Speaking nothing but the truth 💯
God blessed that Filipino with a heart like no other!
When Max Kellerman talks boxing, I listen.
Salvador Sánchez
When Max Kellerman Talks Basketball, Stephen A. Gonna Bully His Ass 😂😂
Why? He is usually a huge floyd fan boy. And floyd is a joke.
@@EyeseeUriPso what do you want him to say? Discredit every thing Floyd’s ever worked for like worthless-maggot fans do ?
@@shaquilleoneal7556 fate of the universe on the line
It’s easier to be 50-0 to pick your opponent but to 8 division world champion and lineal it’s different story.
Who's supposed to pick a boxer's opponent? The fans?
Floyd beat more world champions than anyone in the history of the sport you casual. Hes not just 50-0
@@apprentessjgooden2263the promoter to be specific
Even coach Garcia said that...
I think we should decide who is better by having them box each other. Oh wait, Floyd already won that.
Never thought about it like that, but such a good point.
Miss Max Kellerman on First Take! Always used to have (for the most part) good and level headed takes..
Gotta love Max and his honesty
His honest opinion does not necessarily translate to truth or accuracy.
He is wrong to say one man would beat another for certain if they were the same size, the world pushed for it, he lost, they all made excuses
Smaller men have a longer way to climb and frow in claiming titles, a heavyweight can likely only have one weight division title
@@skyking3210except Osky, Evander Holyfield and a litany of cruiseweight champions that then went up in wait and won a heavyweight strap…..
@@RemnantPriest Roy Jones Jr did a Middle, Light-Heavy. I'm aware that it can be done was just making a reference that if you are of that size already, born a big man, no where to go unless you started really early, not sure if Tyson was ever a middle weight, prob not as Gus got him late.
Max made a blatant assumption that he cannot cash for certain, Pac got beaten by an older Floyd and Max is making excuses about "the fact that it was even close"
If you cannot land on Floyd what does it matter, he won't lose.
@skyking3210 great comment. Finally a beautiful mind
@@TEMUJINARTS thanks bro. Sugar Ray Robinson was one of the best dancing boxers out there and probably considered one of the best boxers of all time p4p.
I could never make a blanket statement that with all his skilletand gifts if he was born the same size as Ali that he would beat him as being born that size would completely change his boxing composition.
Max is being emotional because he has a favourite or does not like Floyd or maybe he is just straight clouting.
Pac prior accomplishments mean nothing if he cannot beat the man in front of him, it's not a medals contest (the silliness of too many belts these days). If you cannot land as the lighter man you aren't going you land as a slightly heavier one.
Floyd dubbed himself TBE because of the numbers he pulled, because of his ability to get hit the least and his return hit ratio and fight IQ.
As the stats back him I'm not going to argue him. Nothing to do with emotion, everything to do with logic.
Lots guys retired undefeated
Only 1 ever 8 division champ+fighter of the decade award
That would be a valid argument if Pacquiao had beat Floyd, but that didn't happen.
Yeah, but no one has beaten more champs or former champs. And few have beaten/dominated as many hall of fame fighters.
@@Only2GendersCommonSensei would agree if the fight happened in 09
@@brashadcarr6759 doesn't matter. He beat him fair-n-square. No excuses.
@@Only2GendersCommonSensewell it’s debatable who won, most would actually say pacquio won but yk how boxing goes with judges, just look at loma vs haney
that's the real monster 😊
Both are amazing fighters, the end.
🙌 spoken like a person that really knows boxing! Well said
HE LOST!
@@mellshell1789no shit, “pound for pound” must be a bot
Agreed..lineal champion, and the only 8..8..8 division champ❤
Lemme end it here tho. 50-0, 62-2-8
@@Lokz62soooo, pac has more wins?
More like six division.
Crawford did it 2x undisputed 8 belts
If we go by your logic, my neighbor who was a pro boxer, but now retired, having a 3-0 record is better than ali, sugar ray robinson, and pac bec my neighbor is undefeated.
Max is just a genius and very intellectual . Big fan of him
Kellerman is a walking boxing encyclopedia
Max’s facts per minute ratio is unreal
Only man to never box to have such knowledge you can actually agree with… max is the man 🙌🏼
you know they did fight right@@delgis1210
That's why Stephen A got him fired
He's like giving a speech always 💪🔥
One word makes Pacquiao stand out from other fighters of his generation: humility.
Well said
Two words make Mayweather stand out " NEVER LOST"
@@Kbiggins1978simple
@@Kbiggins1978Doesn't matter. You people are just as bad as the Marciano copers.
@@Kbiggins1978there are lots of Undefeated boxers like Floyd bruh but there's only ONE 8 division champion 💀
Pacquaio is literally the Muhammad Ali of the Philippines. People just descredit him because he is not American.
Too bad Manny is not American!
😂 no one can level pacman resume.. he is 1 of 1. the problem he is not american.
Living legend walking among us right now. His career is phenomenal
One of the honest commentators on boxing history! spitting facts without a doubt..luv this man
Not this time
@@fredrickboseman8062specially this time, what you talking about bro facts are facts.
It wasn't facts. It was a what if. Which is stupid
Gwt off Floyd's sack. He is and always will be over rated garbage. In the future no one will talk about floyd as being one of the greats.
Jesus loves you & made a way for our sins to be forgiven. Turn to Christ & repent for eternity in Heaven!!!
Manny is a Beast especially his early days!
Steroid days😅
@@Co-D31prove it cry baby😢😂😂😂
He lost in those days thou🙄
@@annoyingmantra9314haha😂 try to use steroid and box with manny😂
@@annebertsolispineda9186hahaha 😅 try to speak better English 😅
Max Kellerman knows his boxing....
Of course his a legend of all time. 👏👏👏 Pinoy pride
“Unless you’re caping for a guy” This statement speaks volumes about so many fans and their favourite athletes 🔥🔥🔥
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He's doing that for Pac man
Manny's fans and Floyd haters fight with what ifs when Floyd fans fight with facts
💥💥💥💥
@@cartonbox5174nah every side has an abundance of dck riders that sht talk the other side when they do the same thing
I like how Max doesn't have to sound irate to defend his thoughts.
Stephen A shot type shit? 🤣
I agree with you M Kellerman..
The best boxer I've ever seen and I have watched boxing for more than 50 years.
One of the best explanations on who's the best. If you don't understand and won't accept it, then doubt what you understand about boxing
Who do you think is the best from what he said?
he said couldn’t make weight? and he said naturally?
The part where he said floyd is the best but pac is in the convo
I won't accept it then. He lost to money May so he's not better than him DF lol. Y'all just haters 😂💯
@theblackcosmonaut2482 Yeah after Floyd ducked him til Pac was way out of his prime. Can't say it's not true because that's exactly what fragile hands had to do to barely win. He also isnt 50-0. He's lost 4 of those fights. I guess That's what rigged judging and fighting in LA your whole career gets you though. Not real victories, fraudulent victories. 😂 💯
Max is the man! He knows his sh*t.
I want iguodala
This is why i like heavyweights theres no argument you can beat anyone or you cant
He speaks the truth period.
Manny is a example of a Role Model. Always Humble.
Just don't bring up gay ppl 😂
@@jpcoqueranhey it’s not fun to laugh at sick people!
@@Ihavenolimitations😂
Was he a role model when he was smoking crystal meth? Floyd doesn't drink or smoke....
@@user-kg5py1sm2o pacquiao also doesn’t rape and beat beat up women
The fact they fired Max and have Stephen a Smith and Unc talking about boxing on ESPN makes me so mad 😂 They know nothing compared to what Max knows
The final statement was braindead so idk.
Max is high
proud of you manny Paquio 👍
There will never be anyone better
Max just gained hella Filipino fans for defending our guy Pacman!!! Well played sir!!! Respect!!!
They fans don't give af about max
He’s been defending Pac for YEARS!! This is only one of Max’s many reasons why Manny was the greatest!! Love it!
Dudes an absolute legend
I miss hearing Max's sport commentaries.
In my day, you were better than everyone you beat and worse than everyone you lost too.
Max Kellerman knows his boxing RIP his Bro
You can cherry pick your way to 54-0, but you cannot duck your way to eight division champs
@@KrucialThirteen did any of victor conte become like 8 division champ other than Pac-Man?
@@KrucialThirteenif thats how easy then you could even find 7th wolrd champ. But NO ONE can.
@@KrucialThirteen see, its impossible. But for Manny its possible. Thats why he was called "one and only 8 div champ in the history of your planet" you fool.
@@CriticalSanchezIs Manny still afraid of needles 🤔😂
@@KrucialThirteenFloyd lost by points but the judges were corrupt, you can count for yourself or look at one of the many CZcams videos covering it
No one ever imagined it that it was posdible!!!
Kellerman stated facts that can’t be disputed. Pacquiao achieved greatness no other boxer has.
As long as you have a good manager you can go undefeated. But winning 8 different titles in 8 diff weight classes, that’s another story. #MannyGoat
Floyd ducked Manny for like a decade 😭
How if I’m not mistaken Floyd is older then manny and still beat him not even close
Bullshit Manny Pacquiao refused to take blood test at the time. Everyone knows that.
@ricardoparrott4570 cause manny is an athletic explosive fighter and he waited for him to slow down
Floyd took way less damage in his career too
I mean the answer is pretty obvious unless you have autism or a biased black boy
Manny didn’t want to take the drug test💀😂
@@Rs3mocha white boy the asian god his ass beat by the black man facts and yes didn’t take a lot of punishment because the name of the game is to hit and not get hit who stands there and let someone hit them y’all dumb
THE ONLY 8 Division World Champion. 🤯
My Goat 🐐💪
May is GOD of 🥊🔥
No matter what they say, Pac is still my GOAT. The man who got me into combat sports.
Pacquiao is the goat. Like you said forget what they say. What they say is irrelevant. You'd have to be blind to not see that Pacquiao is greater.
Plus personality too
@@justinray6839you’d have to be an idiot to think pac is better than Floyd…maybe on his level but never better
So you’re bias
So you’re delusional
And an absolute gent. Love Manny
Lots of people are making fun of Manny in our country, mostly politicians or rich people, but never did he retaliate in a harsh way. He always kept it together.
Thank you Max for speaking clearly and concisely about a great champion.
Good and Great is a big difference.
The Greatest Filipino🇵🇭🥊🥊 Boxer of all time 1 of the greatest ever in the Sport with that remarkable Feit. He was the true definition of a Fighter!!
Floyd is levels above manny in skill and resume. manny pacqiuou has to be the most overrated boxer because he was a steroid taker and a duck .🦆 manny is the same clown who weight drained cotto and fought him at a catchweight after cotto suffered a brutal beating to margarito. Manny is the same clown who fought an old Oscar dela Hoya at 147 (A weight class Oscar didn’t compete in for for 11 years) he fought a passed prime ricky Hatton who was having suicidal thoughts after losing to Floyd. Manny fought an old sugar Shane Mosley after Floyd beat him a year prior (when he was ranked number 1 at welterweight) manny ducked Floyd in 2009 by refusing the drug tests (and even his own trainer Freddie roach admitted that it was their fault on why the fight didn’t happen) also in the same exact year Manny pacqiuou ducked Mosley at 140. Manny pacqiuou fought a Brandon rios who was coming off of a loss, he fought a passed prime weight drained margarito who was coming off of a brutal beating to sugar Shane Mosley ( the same man he ducked a year prior) Manny pacqiuou is the same clown who got destroyed by a passed prime Erik morales who was coming off of a loss to Antonio Barrera 😂 Manny pacqiuou then fought Morales in a rematch but this time he made Morales move down in weight after he was coming off of a loss to Zahir Raheem (a journeyman) just so he can gain an advantage. Manny pacqiuou is the same clown who fought Adrien broner who was coming off of a loss to mikey Garcia. Manny pacqiuou is the same clown who fought Jessie Vargas who was coming off of a big loss to Timothy Bradley😂 I don’t understand how manny pacqiuou can get away with all of this but yet I’m the one who’s going to get labelled as a “hater” 🤦🏻♂️ also it’s funny how they call him a 8 division world champion when he’s not. The titles he won at 126 and 140 wasn’t recognised in the 4 governing bodies therefore he’s 6 division champ. 😂 manny pacqiuous greatest achievement was getting compared to floyd.
eww
@@dingdonggwantes1002your a hater👎🏾
At least Pac doesn't take the spotlight away from other fighters. Humbleness outweighs someone that has to gratify themselves. Even Tyson gives due-respect to the past.
If you're great, there is *nothing* wrong with letting it be known.
Y'all only love "humbleness" in defeat. Tyson also referred to himself as the best *while active.* If I'm better than you, I don't need to stroke your ego by pretending that I'm not.
That sounds so childish
@@shacourbrissett9625 If you truly Great, you don't need to say it yourself, cuz People will already know. It's Mayweathers' endless boring "Egotistical Undefeated & look how dirt rich I am BS Rant", that makes people dislike him. Lastly you cannot be considered the Greatest in a sport that is about fighting your opponent if all you did was run away, hug & defend your whole Career.
@DonnyValentineOfficial That's what people say when they feel overwhelmed by the truth of someone else's greatness.
*Muhammad Ali* told *everyone* he was great. Is he "truly" great?
*Mike Tyson* LITERALLY went on a whole monologue about being the best ever. Is he not "truly" great?
*Usain Bolt* boasted about his greatness while active. Is he not "truly" great?
The reality is that people like you simply hate the confidence and honesty of people who unapologetically state who and what they are. It's the same reason why there is always this obsession with "humbleness" in relation to defeat.
Nonsense comment. Look at the man's fighting - what he does in the ring; everything else is irrelevant. There are plenty of humble losers.
the only boxer who gave mayweather another talent in marathon
Floyd retired young,rich and undefeated been that over 20yrs fought everyone no path to succeed is the same Paq is a great champion also both these men did alot for the sport🥊🥊🏆
Pac is the antithesis of Mayweather. Humble, zero arrogance, doesn't flaunt his winnings or brag about himself, builds hospitals and schools, and brings clean water supply to villages. Floyd buys jewelry and carries a million around in a designer bag.
Don't leave out he cheats on his wife 😂 turned Christianity blah blah blah yea yea
He doesn’t like the gays though
And beats his girlfriend and babymommas
@jeromefrancia6800 one incident was because she laughed at him for being so arrogant even though he can't read or write
Floyd does a lot for the community!!!
If you just take the time to do your research then you would maybe wouldn’t hate on Floyd !!!!! Floyd is the goat!!!
I’m Mexican and I agree he was the shit A lot of fighters dodged him in he’s prime even may weather!!
Bro you don't have to say you're a Mexican. Lol. We all know, y'all need a hero who you all can put over Floyd. Because no Mexican could. Please don't
Lol pac trainer Freddie roach even said pac didn’t want to take the olympic style drug test to make the fight nice try tho
dude how can you say Mayweather dodges paq when Mayweather is older, enlighten me
U dont know boxing MAYWEATHER is older then MANNY and also it was MANNYS fault him and FLOYD didnt fight althou FLOYD would of beat the brakes of him if they fought earlier
@@Lohofua okkkkkk!
Pacquiao is Top 10 P4P all time great!
Stephen A. Smith: "THAT'S BLASPHEMOUS!!!"
😂
50-0 is achievable when you have a great manager who can choose and dodge any opponents you want. 8 Division champion is a great achievement if you ask me
46-2-2 would be a more realistic record for Floyd and the bout with Conor shouldn't count.
And why are u talking about Mayweather? I thought this was about Manny. Oh and 8 division champ is easy when the belts are vacant and u may or may not take steroids.
@@aramisdavis6055 stop crying, it was never been proved that he was on steroids, but what about Floyd?? dodging opponents until they're out of shape? game fixing? he should have lost to Maidana and Pacquiao 😂😂
@@xD0100 You dumb, and I don’t debate with fools. I’ll give you this though. Floyd fought and beat these so called washed up guys and then Manny fought them after. And crying??? Nothing to cry about. Floyd beat Manny. The end! ✌️
@@xD0100We don't speak out of emotions.
Pacquiao is 2 years older then Mayweather. They'd attempted to fight 4 times prior, but, Pacquiao wouldn't put up the money. Simple not complicated. At a certain point in folks career, you're money motivated.
Second, controlling water weight isn't fixing. It's understanding commonsense.
3rd Pacquiao isn't known for wanting to be tested for steroids. Mayweather passes his tests. Including for the Olympics that check going back a year in your brain stem.
Anything else, opinion based?
Two words....juiced up
Now that I think about it, those titles are hard to get and bro got 8 of them, if he didn't focus on Mayweather, he might have gotten more than 8
I could picture a upcoming elite boxer doing what Floyd did, I cannot picture a upcoming elite boxer doing what Manny did
Doing what Floyd did? You could see an up and coming boxer beating 23 world champion boxers? Becoming the highest paid boxer? Beating Manny? Staying undefeated while fighting the best of the best?
@toptiertech7291 yep. More belts means more tomato cans can claim champion status. The money increases from generation to generation. And fighters can go undefeated under the right circumstances or contracts.
Naoya inoue bout to be that man fast forward 5 years
@@toptiertech729123 world champions in a 4 belt era with 17 weight classes.
@@LMLR187so if it's easy...why can't other boxers fight tomato cans and do the same lol. 23 champions are tomato cans now.?? Y'all allow race to sway your opinions on boxers. It's crazy and funny lol
When max kellerman says it. It means something, he is one the best if not the best boxing analyst
Agreed he’s the box Guru
Max ain't God his word isn't law
Kellerman isn't one of my favorite commentators but, he's got a great point.
@@kansasnative1685yeah he also said floyd clearly beat Pacquiao in their fight. Y'all jump ship so easily.
How many boxing matches has he won?
Even Sugar Mosely was surprised a smaller dude knocked him down. IYKYK.
Max K is the most knowledgeable boxing analyst ever, no doubt! Salute to him!
Pacman and Duran are the goats for this alone. Moving up in weight is not easy for naturally small fighters.
I don't want to start a war but personally I think Duran beats Manny. Its just my opinion but Just being able to go 15 rounds with Marvelous Marvin who is natural Middleweight is insane. I think Duran doesn't get the respect he deserves sometimes. All that being said I love Manny and it would be a great fight no matter what.
@@xctkillaprodigyx2586 hard to call although Duran had that power. He probably would take it since he sat Iran Barkely down at 37
8 world division champ > 50-0.
That 50-0 man beat more world champions, never used steroids, not to mention he literally beat the other guy🤣
Their talking about p4p not who beat who or who beat more champion I wish fan were knowlagbbe about the difference instead of generalizing everything into one thing
@@kaysohndavis8103 Floyd got caught using IV PEDs. Floyd beat more world champions yeah but if Pacquiao can choose his opponent like Floyd( coz he is the Promoter himself) Pacquiao could easily beat that record. Bob Arum is the one who pick his opponent.
Beat him head-to-head.
Advantage: Mayweather
@@kaysohndavis8103 what do you mean he never used steroids? Are you blind or deaf? You can google it
I’m not a sports fan, but I respect your honesty
THE ONE AND ONLY. MANNY THE GOAT
I love Max because of his honesty and knowledge.