One Way to Actually Get Rich in EVE Online | Gettings Billions out of Nullsec in a weekend
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Let's Make Some MONEY!!!!!! I refit the FitKitchen Ishtar to handle havens in Nullsec on a hunt for the elusive Escalation. On our Journey in Null, we get challenged by locals and attempt to not go mad running havens.
For those looking for an isk breakdown:
Core X-type worth 600m isk
overseer box worth 133m isk
35m isk in bounties earned on the escalation
45m isk in bounties earned on the sites
~810 m earned over 2 hours of total work. ~ 400m isk/hr
Depending on how you play that means you can make a billion isk in a day or maybe a weekend, either way doesn't take long with this Ishtar setup.
Ishtar :: :: ::
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:10 Nullsec Havens Make you money
01:40 First landing on a haven
03:00 How do you get the Escalation from a haven (its chance)
03:50 Site fit
04:20 How to get paid from running Havens?
07:50 Use Wikis to check NPC damage Types
08:45 Timeline
09:50 How to stay safe when running sites
10:14 Ticks amount made
11:40 Saber interrupts us
12:30 PVP break
13:40 setting up the second Haven
16:07 Possible Haven Final Wave
16:50 Getting your Escalation
19:32 Escalation Refit and transport
21:27 Getting into the Escalation System
22:41 Serpentis Fleet Shipyard Room 1
23:57 Serpentis Fleet Shipyard Room 2
28:00 Serpentis Fleet Shipyard Room 3 Boss
31:50 What happens when you don't read the fine print
33:17 How the Armour Repping Works on the station
36:30 Getting the loot(making the 800m)
37:30 getting out of null
38:03 Poshven wait
39:36 Ending
40:20 Outro
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UPDATE : I'm test running a curse that can do the havens(and sanctums lol) . I have done 17 sites and still have not gotten a escalation. Theres two ways to look at haven ratting, as direct isk per hour from your bounty ticks and gambling. The gambling is hoping for the site to escalate so you can run that. I say gambling because who knows how many haven sites you're going to have to run before you get your escalation. Could be your second site like in this video or your 18th size, like my current stint I'm dealing with trying to setup a curse video. Id say if you went out for a 2 hour stint of haven ratting, you can expect to be lucky and get an escalation; some days will be dry, some days will be nice and full of escalations. It seems the god of RNG, thy Holy Bob, is strong in the null too...
Your curse is obviously cursed. If you used the pilgrim you would have had an escalation already... 🤣
if you still have drone aggro problem. undock, warp to a safe, unboard ship, wait 10 sec, re board ship.. done. Dont know why this works, but does.. only have to do it 1 time, with each new ship.
I do run a smartbomb settup with 3 machariels and one nightmare sniper, i did over 7000 heavens and i usually run a heaven every 4-5 mins. I can tell with convidence that the droprate of a 10/10 escalation is arround 1/25 to 1/27.
@@aerdnuttli 1/25-27 ._.that f@Cking sucks for us mere mortals running them in an ishtar....!!:P
i just bought my escalations from my alliance. out of months carrier ratting sanctums/havens i got maybe 3 scalations myself.
Faction spawn:
Domination (angel)
Shadow (serpentis)
Dread (guristas)
True (sansha)
Dark (Blood raider)
Sentient (Drone)
Those are the prefix on the name of the NPC, can be any type of ship, from freg (HS) to BS(NS) depending of where you are.
Escalation are usually between 5 to 11 jumps from the system that you got it from.
It's purelly random
Drone "Haven" is the Drone Patrol site.
In Haven and Sanctum/Drone horde (upper tier anom) you can have a capital spawn (carrier/dread, can be faction too), most of the time deadly for ishtars if you don't gtfo/ADC
Gila works fine, Navy vexor too, some peoples use FOF praxis/raven. Some peoples use strombringers too now.
Regular strategy is to dump a couple toon across a handfull of system, then use a dedicated toon to run their escal, while ratting on the side.
Obviously, some region payout are better than others.
The only guaranteed loots are the overseers effect, everything else must be considered as bonus(bpc/faction mods/dead space mods).
Eve uni is where you want to check if you are looking for more precise infos.
Cheers.
Couple of notes for those not doing this regularly. Havens only come in one flavour, *faction name* Haven. There's no such thing as a forlorn or forsaken haven. There are forlorn and forsaken hubs, which are not havens. Also in nullsec, ratting havens there's always the risk there's a pirate dreadnaught in the last wave. If you're AFK, that dread will fuck your shit up in 5 seconds within 20 seconds of it spawning. This doesn't happen often, but if you do serial afk havens the bounties, especially in a high BRM system, will offset the loss of the isktar and pay for a new one and you're still ahead. Just make sure when you start afk isktar ratting, to have enough in your wallet to cover the new one at all times.
I get sweats at the thought of AFK anything in Null, in some parts that might be cool. In others guarenteed death sentence. If you are anywhere near FRT space its a no go, they might be terrible at pvp but they got the numbers to find you. Maybe im just unlucky but ive have had at one guy filament in right next to me. Very confused timing. Also hot droppers exist, quite what they get out of jumping 20 bombers, and one Sin on a cheap IShtar i will never know lol. But i guess if you have a nice safe little null home then crack on.
@@jamesmaybrick2001 don't sweat it in null. It's not that scary. Yes FRT are a bunch of thirsty bitches but down in Great Wildlands, Feithabolis, Inmensea you can explore mostly in peace. Keep an eye on local and on dscan, you'll be fine. Having a cheap ship helps, or a cloaky instawarp boy also helps.
Every EVE player uses the word "Flavour", just goes to show you how dumbed down and brainwashed people are repeating shit that they've heard. Literally the dumbest adjective they could use to describe the different havens (or item).
Thanks for the walkthrough. Certainly, saving this for future use. Was ratting with Brave years ago with my VNI and nobody mentioned how easy the escalations were, so I just sold all my escalations. Kicking myself for it now, but nothing to be done but do it right from now on.
Great video. I think the soundtrack you used actually kept me watching. I want that soundtrack.
Always worth dropping an MTU if you are a member of a proper Nullsec group, gets around 10m per site, which adds up quick. always people willing to buy the scrap for a good price.
Great video and solid advice were given in this video, you got me hooked. @ 7:51 of the video "Use Wiki to check NPC damage types"/click on the ship and info, i can't stress enough how important it is to use the correct ammo vs the rat you are fighting. A common misconception is that 10% difference in resistance leads to a 10%more/less dps. This is, unfortunately, not how math works. Yesterday was pounding a rat with hail and after seeing that my hits weren't applying well i saw his explosive resistance was 80% after swtiching to EM, the rat only had 40% EM resist, my damage trippled. EM(100-40=60) / Explosive(100-80=20)= 3. Same goes for building resistances on your ship, the higher your resistance gets, even though its hard to get a few % extra and it seems not worth it, those % are the most impactful for your ship.
you nailed it on the head, those percentages matter!
This video is pure solid gold
I wanted to let you know that instead of right clicking your drones and clicking engage target, you can actually just click the target icon at the top and press “f” on your keyboard and they will engage
6/10 and 10/10 are very good that ishtar will work for running serpentis and guristas escalations but will struggle with blood raiders and sansha the escalations in the south are more dps heavy. Also, escalation rates are very random so you could go a dozen sites and not get an escalation.
Ishtar with xtra large shield booster no prop, warp to 0 drop mtu, after the site scoop mtu, then loot the container.
Note that havens and sanctums can spawn npc dreads that will wreck you. So you gotta gtfo
Site is just shy or 30m, loot is about 7m.
Generally you will get the mtu value back after 2 sites.
Dont go afk like this, you will have more isk/h, and avoid the dread that spawns with a very low %
When the dude is like "you think that's safer?" Re: heading to pochven, I laughed out loud. Pochven is a much smaller and controllable region. You can bring yourself a scanner, don't a highsec near jita, it's safe as heck if you need it to be. :D
i do this in hs with angels. best esc u can get is redlight district a 5/10. my last dropped a multispec shield hardener worth 4xx mil isk. good way to earn isk for the ishtar fit. can be done in an t2 cruiserr+ tif u have some good skills. i do them in a vargur because of speed. u have to farm dens and refuges to get them.
Love the music BTW.
One thing i would look into for Escal chaining.. is Smartbomb and DPS fit Marauder... when set up and ran correctly.. you can clear rock Havens in under 5 minutes.. the only thing to risk.. is the Dread/Titan NPC spawn.. but if you unbastion at the right time. just before the last wave.. then you can warp both out.. safely.. you grind them enough.. then the waves become clear.. you can tell the wave just by whats in it... i do this on Gursitas Havens.. Smartbomb Mach and a Kronos since it flavours Kin/Therm Damage with Void and can hit over 3k DPS
usually getting myself 4-5 Escals every few hours.. personally i dont run them.. only sell.. but if you wanted to run them. it could be a great way to get your hands on them..
Also.. security status of your system.. also affects spawn chances for all rare spawns.. including escals... a -0.9 system.. will have much higher chance.. than lets say a - 0.4 System
why.... do....people....talk....like....this.....
right as i finished my degree in '17 i joined ph and was doing havens and roams for funsies, good times. don't know if i'm ready to try getting back out into null though, reminded me too much of life as a truck driver.. making tons of isk but never anywhere to spend it
the dude giving instructions. Damn that dude is playing EVE as his first Job...
This game has been out for what, nearly 21 years? You tend to become somewhat of an expert, even if you only played a third of those years.
Btw for the serpentis 10/10, there are no frigates, which is what the smartbombs are for (they are useful in the guristas 10/10s). But for the serpentis ones you dont need them which means u can use a meta XLSB and it is able to tank. This makes the fit cost around 250m if u use t2 ddas and it runs the serp site nearly just as well.
This video is good content.
Love your vids mate. TY. How do you get those directional lines to move your ship without double-clicking in space? I see you keep doing it, and I've never tried it myself.
Im using the Q short cut.
Zoom out, make sure you have the battle grid thing on so you can see how far 20 or 50km is.
Hold Q, first click locks in direction, second click locks in angle. The ship will not pass the point that is created.
I actually ended up making a Praxis fit that puts out 1150 dps that requires you to not be AFK so it will at least keep you involved. And its cheaper than an ishtar, although after the price drop of HACs it might be cheaper finally
Another thing that boosts the isk/hr is to put down an MTU and loot the whole site. Since null doesn't have some minerals you can mine; reprocessing the trash loot is the only way to get things like tritanium. Whether you reprocess it yourself or use it yourself, the salvage can be worth as much as the bounties.
Care to share your fit?
@@Puhnu yeah sure, I will warn you though its not a low skill point ship to fly to push out the over 1k dps. Its purpose built for running Blood Raiders sites. However, if your fighting a faction that wants to fight at close range this ship should work. Just make sure your using it on sites where you can warp in at range. I wouldn't recommend this ship for any escalations. You will need Drone Rigging 3 to fit everything as well.
[Praxis, *Raxis 3.1]
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Compact Multispectrum Shield Hardener
Sensor Booster II
Large Shield Booster II
Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x10
Curator II x4
Infiltrator II x5
Missile Precision Script x1
Optimal Range Script x3
Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile x486
Leave the Sensor booster unscripted. Only use the shield booster when necessary. Its not meant to tank the rats, because its meant to be outside their range.
Its purpose built to sit at 100km warp in and kill everything before it gets too close. Cruise missiles work large to small while sentries work small to large. You will have to get a feel for when to swap targets with the cruise missiles to avoid dead missiles in space. Gardes are the only sentry I dont recommend because their range is too short.
@@314Ghostley thank you. I think ill try that on angel sites im struggling. Im have tried rHM with as much tank as possible with praxis but incoming dps is just too bad.
If are on alliance / corporation territory getting the loot and salvage could be use for the local industry. If you good metalscrap reprocessing skills is worthy to reprocess most of modules because minerals value extracted is higher, with max skills I usually get an extra 10 or 15% from modules.
On drones ships like Ishtar or Gila I usually fit a salvager on high slots, drop MTU and keep orbiting it 1000m. Because drones do auto targeting I start salvaging the wrecks and keep looting the MTU cargo. If some non ally appears on local I scoop the MTU to avoid being easily spotted and dock. Usually the loot on regular sites is between 5M to 14.5M (the highest EV I ever had on a regular site) including salvaging, unless you get faction module
I've also lived in nullsec in the past. I've ran 30 sites before, and not gotten an escalation.
Now, considering if I got lucky and got 2 escalations while running those sites, and assuming the real reality of the fact that escalations can drop next to nothing, that'd easily cut that 800mil in half, and accounting for travel time and the time of clearing those sites, I could easily calculate it actually coming out to something close to 70mil/hour
Incursions in highsec can payout better than that.
I may just be biased against nullsec though, I'm a wormholer for life. Last time I tried nullsec, i lasted 2 weeks before I ragequit over an FC admitting to intentionally getting me killed in order to further their cause, stating I'm just a cog in their machine, and I should be honored to be able to play a role as "important" as spending my whole evening waiting for an intentionally bad warp-in that lost me 350mil.
yeah i 100% agree , lots of mix reviews from people on how frequently they get the escalation, its 100% RNG so definitely not something that can bring in steady bacon. As wormholers I feel like we are pampered with C3s, easy guaranteed 200m isk/hr in an easy to fly 300 - 1B isk hull. then you start seeing C5 money where intro marauder solo fits are achieving 700 - 800 m isk/hr performances out of the box like wtf NS. I think I was lucky in this video, but it was my genuine attempt at trying out and seeing what else eve had to offer and I look forward to trying to run a couple more
Who the hell was your FC? What corp are they a part of? Just asking so I know who to watch out for.
@@dumbviddumpchanneliguess7201 it was a test fc. Corsix was like 2nd in command
I just want to say, this will NOT work for blood raider or sansha even with a refit (the most ehp/sec i got for em/thermal was 650, whereas the original fit has nearly 1400. Edit: in the blood raider ones you will also get instantly neuted out and die in the last room, yeah, its that bad.) the natural resists of the ishtar are the only things letting it do escalations, so you are only able to do guristas or serpentis ones, since they have thermal/kinetic damage types.
yes, i am sad about this, but since i also have access to serpentis space im mostly ok, just crying over my 2 wasted x type em hardeners.
Wondering what the map overlay your using in the bottom left is (might just be Dotlan open in a browser) but it looks more like an overlay you’ve managed to get in game somehow
thats pathfinder, i have it open in browser on my left screen, I use OBS and have it overlayed on the recording
Isn't the angel 10/10 different from the serpentis one? If I remember the last boss of angel nukes you from far away and you need some buffer to resist it
Just watched the video. Very intriguing. I haven't been able to find the Ishtar fit details for the Escalation site. Would you please provide or point me to it.
in the description , eve workbench links
39:00 Did you ever do a video on using Pochven to exit null? I've seen a few but there seems to be a disparity on what filaments to use to end up in highsec.
I don't believe that I have made a how-to regarding filaments but at the timestamp you marked, you can see the one that takes me to poshven is the Cladistic -5 'Krai Svarog" and the one that takes me to from Poshven to K-space is the Glorification-1 'Devana'. Theres a trick to choosing what system to filament back from to increase your possibility of landing near jita.
faction spawns
angel = domination
serpentis = shadow
guristans =Dread
Sansha = True
Blood raider = Dark
Drone = sentient
and we can fight about the tractor units if there are worth it since it is random loot from every site with a average off 10 mill (my industry stuff is only done by reprocessing the modules for minerials)
and do not drop them while running the site drop them when you are done to make them needing to use combat probes to get them
and i like to use the Ess as bait for content
and i use 5x strombringers to clean heavens in under 5mins for a 20mill tick per char without ess
you got a bunch of NSer's hearts on, they wanna know what fit you run when you do it
I run these in the system I live in but I loot everything and salvage everything, its a little over 100m isk an hour with escalations being a bonus. That's not for everyone but I'm a digital hoarder lol and I hate the idea of leaving stuff floating in space. I grind up the equipment and ammo drops for minerals and collect the drones and tags that drop.
10 isn't quite right from my experience. I run 30~ havens a day across 3 toons and generally see 1 (maybe 2) escalations. A lot of days I would see none, but would get 1-3 faction rat spawns.
Not sure if lower sec status increases the chance, but I mostly rat in a -0.29 sec system.
I'd put in a drone tracking in low drones will apply way better
i did HAVENS for years. I would warp in at 100KM and snipe everything with WARDENS IIs, safer too
I farm 10/10s with 4 smart bombing praxis and a naga site time is about 6 mins it works out i earn more isk selling them on than spending time doing them
Running Hevan with a Praxis can get over 100 mil (bonty + loot + salvage)
You said it's also possible to do in Vexor, but with nerfed long ago Vexor's drone channel to 75 Mbits DPS will be very low compared to Ishtar
yes, much less dps but tanks just about the same (sig tanking in 99% of the tank)
is it possible to use level 1 tech instead of 2 for the level 6 escalations? i got 3 months to train for the simple fit
Ashora Said : It's best to use a Gila instead for low skill toons for the 6/10 will link fit
[Gila, Gila]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Pith X-Type Thermal Shield Hardener
Pith X-Type Kinetic Shield Hardener
10MN Afterburner II
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Vespa II x2
Scourge Fury Light Missile x2000
The drones do the bulk of the work so you can T1 the missile launchers. The drone skills are important though
I used to run drone 10/10s as my main source of income. Was much easier back then because the NS bears would sell the physical bookmark for the escalation for 100mil each so I didn't have to farm havens. Sucks that CCP got rid of the physical bookmarks because there's no way I'm farming havens all day!
You can still share BM's using the new system. The guy with the escalation joins a shared bookmark folder of the guy who wants to run it and he places the escalation BM in there. Then the guy who wants to run it can set destination and warp to that spot. New system is better than the old, OKAY!?
Dude I've played for years and I'd love to play with other people. I'll figure it out sometime. I miss the old days riding with music playing level 4s with the old schoolers I used to play with. ... I'm a solo rock smuggler, I crashed 44 mil into a smartbomb today so now I'm out here solo grinding another pile of rocks lol. I've never been so poor in EVE, UNDER 100 million. Dreaming of better days. When you are poor in an MMO, no one needs you, and solo is the hardest way to earn anything.
Solo mining is not the best isk generator. In wormhole space we have I believe they are called Average frontiers . In the mining site there's 1 massive Gnesis rock, or whatever its called, worth 1 billion. Just sit and mine, make your fortune
In your "actual site fit" you have no shield or amour resistances....(3:52) - I may be nowhere as knowledgeable but I've done a ton of DED5s and above - there is no way you survive the damage without one or the other? In your video you had them.... can you explain? Thanks for the video
I have two fits for two separate ships, site fit and escelation fit. Both are in the description on EVE workbench. make sure to match your resistance with your expected target. at that time you marked you can see the fit Printing Press given to me by a nullsecer to run but i also showed what i was actually running, some batched fit from modules i had laying around. We toss resistance into the rigs and our primary tank is our sig tank for doing havens.
half the value of the havens is in the loot, you just need to reprocess it. i understand why a wormholer wouldn't drop an mtu but if you live and rat in ns, you should definitely drop an mtu.
Hmmm i havent gotten much good stuff the 2 times i did. and the Nullsecers that gave me information regarding the topic also said its a waste.
@@GKhagah i paladin rat in delve. i reprocess all the trash. where i live the minerals have value.
Guristas Space Ishtar but change resists to suit. This thing doesn’t break a sweat and can do the 10/10s
[Ishtar, Ishtar]
Capacitor Power Relay II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Thermal Shield Hardener II
X-Large C5-L Compact Shield Booster
Kinetic Shield Hardener II
Auto Targeting System I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Thermal Shield Reinforcer II
Salvage Drone II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Vespa II x5
Hornet II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Wasp II x5
Hey, I resubbed to Eve online yesterday, original toon started back in 2010. Haven’t played seriously for about 5 years. My longest stint was 3 years living in WH space. I’m curious to see what the game offers now, I’ve never tried NS living and was wondering how I go about getting into a NS area with a small group, I’m UK based and play several evenings a week…. When I’m not working or having games of 40k😂
I'm not biased towards any NS group, but I'd say go big or go home with NS. smaller groups I bet are cool but I imagine you'd get pushed around a lot whereas a bigger null block will offer a security net and guaranteed 24/7 PVP.
@@GKhagah that’s good to know, I was thinking small scale so I have some scope to be self sufficient, living in WH space taught me to make my own content. I’ll give it some thought, thank you
@@GKhagah I took the plunge and applied to a WH corp… great impression so far👍
Ran null for almost 8 WHOLE HOURS yesterday. I've made a whopping 80 mil.... yea... Almost every single site I've come across was completely empty except for one lvl 1 relic and 1 lvl 4 relic with a lvl 3 data site.
When I was running null a few days ago in the same exact area almost every system I entered was untouched but I went across the entirety of null from top left to bottom right and still only found 3 goddamn sites... that was a frustrating night lol also almost got ganked a few times and also escaped from a few gate camps/bubbles with a literal sliver of my health but at that point I didn't even care if I died but I still somehow made it out, and the absolute CHERRY ONTOP was the fact that when I started filamenting back to high sec to sell my loot, My last filament put me over 48 DAMN JUMPS FROM JITA*@U&#(!*#@ which led to me getting chased by some t2 ganker for almost 5 minutes straight until he finally caught up but failed in ganking me and stopped chasing me forgot his name but it was like axiulu or something like that and he was in a ganker corp lol
what an adventure. I definitely prefer to run c3 sites over null sites, hard to do null sites when you aren't established out there or have a wormhole to retreat to(wormholes confuse most NSers in my opinion).
LOL Just carry more Poch Filaments and hop back in and out until you get into a sweet spot dude..
What tool do you use to map out wormhole chains, looks very useful
Path Finder, mine is hosted at map.battlestar.space
It's actually paradox/irony: I'm in a null corp and wanted to see some alternatives to havens in the form on wh ratting LOL.
I’ve been running Havens for 2 months now. Earned around 5 billion and only had one escalation. I must be extremely unlucky.
seems to be the average experience. I only dipped into null sites for a short bit, seem lucky. but my sources that guided me on doing them were doing EXTREMELY well, in the end the RNG seems all over.
I tend to go for sanctums but so far after like 6 no escalation nor special loot.
got a escalation of the correct faction and the fleet-command-bullshit is still repping its armour even when im 50km+ away, very annoying, would any of you guys (specifically ashora) know a fix? since hes done this far more than me. think im just gonna have to throw berserkers at it until i get past the structure, or maybe itll behave better tomorrow.
I mean it is more expensive but i find marauder ratting far more interesting, things die faster and you atleast have to lock stuff lol
I am new to eve, what do you mean by 200m isk per hour from the 3 ticks? What are ticks? 17:40
Great video
www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3mw16p/what_is_a_tick_in_a_ratting_context/
@@GKhagah thanks!
Angel haven you need bersekers t2 more more better
Serpentis haven need to take wasp and in serpentis space you can run 10/10 in cheap ishtar like 290 mil ishtar
And you make like 20-25 mil/h +escalation now depends
I haven't played since 2014 or so. Back then I used to command incursion armor fleets flying a Proteus usually, and usually in highsec. The income was right around 1 bil/hr. I also flew the Vigilant, Vindicator, Legion and either armor logi. Legion fleets were a bit faster at clearing sites but not nearly as much fun. I'm wondering if Sansha incursions are still as fun and lucrative. I also need to lookup drifter fights. The Deimos was best at fighting drifters. Anyway thanks for the great vid. Really brings back a lot of memories 🙂👍of my beloved Ishtar running 10/10.
I fly with TDF High Sec incursions sometimes and that's about 260m isk/hr with 1 toon. how on earth did you get 1 Billion?
@@GKhagah its been too long ago, maybe I'm remembering the numbers incorrectly. Maybe it was more like 10bil / week, but I'm pretty sure it was 10bil per 10-12 hr day. One of the straws that broke my camel's back was when I lost a really fancy passive armor fit Vindicator. It was worth about 10bil with A type ENAMs (3) and tier 2 officer MagStabs (3) Tech II Neutron Blasters (officer weren't worth the price-they dont overload as well) ... anyway. I lost that Vindicator when I warped to the WRONG beacon and was engaged by a Drifter Battleship IN HIGHSEC! 🤣 Oh, I had the very best MWD for a Vindicator too. I engaged that MWD to RUN 🏃♂️ and I was JUST about outside web range when he webbed me 🤨🙁. His speed wasn't as high as mine when his web hit so I QUICKLY hit him with my 90% 15k web and he started firing, guns only, no dooms day yet. I'm passive tanked so I'm not going to survive if I keep getting hit, even if he fired civ guns lol 😂. Back then no one knew the risks of remote repair coming to help with Drifters, so I told everyone to stay out. So I'm webbed, speed dropping fast from ~1284m/sec, he's webbed and, get this, his speed is 2k+ and unaffected by my web! So now comes the realization I'm going down if I do nothing else. So I overload the whole top rack, overload all 3 of my officer mag stabs thinking just MAYBE I could hammer this fuckin fuck into oblivion. Back then there was no ship, sub capital that could do more DPS than a properly fit Vindicator. I got off 3 volleys before the Drifter BS dooms-dayed me. I had stripped all his shields on the first volley and the next 2 volleys barely scratched his armor before I was instapopped by the doomsday. I immediately warped out my top tier slave set out because rumor had it Drifters will pod peeps. That cloan was also worth 10 or 12 bil 🤔🤣.
Maybe it might help but again my memory... If I remember correctly 1 months subscription cost like 500 million. I was paying the subscription with incursion income as well as some pretty fancy ships and fits. I had a solo pvp Vindicator also worth about 10 bil. The old T2 Ion Blaster fit with slaves, top shelf active tank with top shelf dual reps.
I found out that what used to be THE very best solo pvp Battleship was no longer as great as it used to be when I took on a Navy Raven on Singularity and damn near got popped lol 🤦...depressing 😭. What saved me was that a solo Vindicator can fit a web. Shield tanks, especially a Navy Raven can't. So I was able to get away from warp disruption. Also found out, on sisi, that my theory of trying a slingshot maneuver vs a properly fit Machariel didn't work. I lost that Vindicator to a Machariel but only on sisi. That Vindicator should still exist, archived on Tranquility. Then my Solo Ishtar got bashed by the nerf bat. My Solo Proteus got nerffed to hell soon after that. I had lost my Solo Myrmidon long before the two cruisers and got sick and tired of spending all the time and money 💰 figuring out how to run solo pvp on so many ships, only to have them trashed to reballancing. I was the first to figure out how to fit and properly fly a solo Myrmidon. Even against the Curse, speed tanked Vagabond, most command ships and I even took on 3 Battleships, killing 2 before having to let the third go or pop. Lol
Got bored having to train and figure out ships, AGAIN, in the end. I did figure out how to take out Drifter Battleships using an active tanked Deimos with 1 Logi help. As long as my MWD was inactive when doomsday hit I could pop the BS.
After the Vindicator loss to Drifter in highsec I spent months on Singularity figuring out how to kill Drifters. Soloing the 5 cruiser gate camping Drifters was fun and the Deimos was best at it. Nothing fancier than all tech 2 though I might have used the slave clone and active tanking drugs as well (Drop?). People were often shocked by my ships and tactics. Like taking on ships everyone thought had no chance vs what ever i was taking on. The game got to where it was becoming impossible to go deep in lowesec or null, solo, for great fights. I was the guy that figured out how our, kinda smallish corp could live in a C5 wormhole system. When that came out we got rich pretty quick farming the rats and building Tech III cruisers. I wasn't a builder, that was handled by John David and a couple others. I figured out how to use 3 spider fit Dominix as the core to take on all C5 combat, we even peppered in some armor fit Scorpions for the jamming power Skittles had trained up max.
All the "Reballancing" crap only seemed like CCPs (drug dealers) way of keeping their junkies paying to train, learn to fly, and burn HOURS to be successful flying internet spaceships. Lol
Something like all the time I spent writing this! 😆😅🤣😂
So, have fun and fly RISKY ! Safe isn't as fun...😉
@@frankjohnson8750 it currently cost 500 plex to sub your account for a month, each plex cost 4.6m currently so 2.3 billion to sub 1 account each month.
times are crazy for the plex market for a dynamic of Real world reasons . Before the price spike it cost about 1.5 Billion to plex your account each month.
Thats a wild story about the drifter lol
Newbro here! Why would an autotargeter stop your drones from getting targeted? -do ships you've taregeted prioritise you first, and if so why do you not just target all the ships?
Also- what's that map thing in the lower corner? I've heard something about a wormhole mapping app called tripwire- is that it?
Another question! (It's your Lucky Day!) At 9:20 -ish when your talking about the dreadnought, your friend mentions "calling it out" and "you get the loot" - is this a corp/space manners thing or a game feature?
The auto targeter will give off an invisible effect to ships within 50 km.
This effect is higher on the Aggro priority hierarchy than the drones, so the NPCs in the area will shoot you over the drones. So not only will it lock targets for you, it will make NPC targets want to shoot you, for which your drones stay alive.
The map I use is pathfinder, you can access it here: map.battlestar.space
for 9:20, In Ashoras Nullsec experience, calling out the target will result in you getting the loot drop from it, its definitely a manners thing.
@GKhagah thought that might be the case, ty so much for taking the time to answer- alot of content creators don't bother. I really appreciate it 🙏🙏. Had to pause the vid so I might have a few more questions later 😉
@GKhagah You mentioned the velvator couldn't find you- and they asked if you were in an escalation, can other players not bypass acceleration gates/ have difficulty scanning you down, or is there another reason he left you alone?
In Guristas space I've taken Dreads down with a Golem and a well tanked Ishtar, sometimes the Dreads "fall asleep" and you can grind them down with just an Ishtar
AFK may not be the best idea for these what with the super rare carrier or dread spawning in. It has only happened to me a few times but if you are not paying attention they will melt you in secounds
hm can i use a vexor even for the escalations?
For the escalation .... I don't think so , you need that extremely high resistance profile to tank the 2200 dos
Can you list the music you used in the video? I'd like to know some of them and it would be nice for the creators!
Here's a collection of some of the music Krit has used on it's channel, artlist.io/mycollection/1ca57b0e-1aec-4967-98b5-4d6a769e3805/3355523/Krits%20Music . In my newer videos i have an link where we goth get month or two free with an Artlist subscription if you are looking to join in. I can honestly recommend them, every song you download you can permanently use beyond your year subscription.
I'm thinking about coming back to this game have not played in a while i would love to do WH stuff but i only have one toon so in eve im pretty much useless
when at a dis-advantage i wouldn't say useless
in high sec some speacial thingy magik could drop good faction modules
So can you explain to me how the auto targeter mod saves your drones from being attacked?
It gives an ewar effect to NPCs within 50 km, making them prioritize you
Ok cool I didn't know that. Is there a way to extend that range say past 50km or no?
Like will multiple of these work
@@Matthew-ut1pd Don't believe so
and that 50 number is from ashora, so idk how accurate it is. but you will 100% notice a difference in your drones being shot when you have one
Ima have to give it a shot
How do you have your WH map in your chat channel?
I use pathfinder, its on a separate monitor : PF guide czcams.com/video/X1_-X0x_6f0/video.html
yeah... even after killing literally everything else it webs my drones and continues to rep armour so i cant kill it, currently trying to pay someone to kill it for me, if not ill sell it after dt when its reset.
sad, since i was really excited that i was gonna be able to do these. but at least going on the ishtars zkill and seeing the amount of ishtar losses around 1b that are your fit is very funny.
Crabs listen to this, start crabbing - chop chop >:)
Well im looking for a good wh corp any suggestions i have around 78,000,000 SP and a lot of ships ive trained into even trained dreadnaughts but would appreciate your help thanks.
If you want big : Lazerhawks, Odins, HK, we are a small gang if that interests you and we know a medium sized gang, ticker FFEW
Currently an eve echoes player. Thinking of getting into eve online. Only thing stopping me is that i feel like im betraying my corp and alliance mates 😂
I’m brand new to eve, is there anyway I can build out a ship qualified to do these runs right off the bat? Any ship recommendations, I’m Caldari.
Idk of any caldari but a t1 vexor can run them . If you join a null block they will get you squared away with fits and such
Here's some good practice for you , you can go to my zkill and look for a vexor that I have killed in nullsec there you can pull his dead bodies fit . He was gurista ratting
your video shows a dual rep but the fit only has one or am I missing something?
I jerry rigged an Ishtar I had in my wormhole with the modules I had on hand, the rigs aren't correct either, they're shield rigs lol on an armor boat but the fit linked onto EVE workbench is the correct target fit. I ran the two reps because I didn't have the correct Armor enhancing Rig modules.
@@GKhagah cool thanks. The only issue I've seen with it so far is when you get the target painter spawns, those need clearing first or your reps will be overwhelmed.
Is it possible to use a maruder on this escelation..
I think so. Ashora says the site does 2200 DPS which isn't too much to tank, easier to tank too cause its damage specific not omni
For the serpentis 10/10 kronos is really quick and u can just brute force the final boss structure.
I did qbout 20 havens the other day and still havent gotten a single escalation :)
yeah sadly i think i was too lucky in my dip to nullsec. Come to wormhole space, the blue loot is a guaranteed drop, no RND
"They be dumb pirates" loool
what if the Secton of Null doesn't have you fighting the pirates?
What is the vexor fit?
www.eveworkbench.com/fitting/ishtar/b97db97c-6064-4f18-4d0a-08da5b879768 for the site
www.eveworkbench.com/fitting/ishtar/99c6dd1b-9b7d-4a86-4d06-08da5b879768 for the escelation
Fit needs to be adjusted to hostile's damage type
If someone comes during the escalation, and you warp to escape. is your escalation gone?? that would fking suck.. feel like alot of things can go wrong. But high risk high reward. lol
No, your escal despawn at the end of the 24H timer or when finished.
i want to join a worm hole group, do you have any recommendations any good corp to join?
Novac, FFEW, Wolves? Synde or lazer hawks if you MUST be in a big group otherwise there are probably around 50 Smaller corps that would love to have you
bro I was having problems with my old laptop playing EVE like 1yr ago.
Now with the gliches and the updates... I don't even want to undock.
Yikes
if you've omega try the web client
🤣🤣🤣 and here i am looking to try and get someway to omega my account with isk only im in absolute order only HS space , so my best bounty tick i recieved is 2 000 000 , and doing abbyss is dificult for me ... howcome they dont attack your drones ?
They do , the auto targeted module I recommend in the video helps give ewar status to NPCs within 50km, this makes them shoot you and not your drones
@@GKhagah thank man
Dreads can be taken down with frigates and destroyers if u have enough friends ... BTW I spawned a titan with a friend on a angel haven. RIP vagur
czcams.com/video/uMJAVLXQt5g/video.html
my shift button is definitely broken :D
How'd you break it
@@GKhagah simply by intensive and nervous pushing
A team of 2-3 Ishtars would have done a faster/proper job. Only 1 is very time-consuming.
How about a Sin fit for these?
of course it would be faster but it still needs to be split. if its your alt cool if its a friend then its the same as soloing with 1
dark blood titan on my second ded, could not get anyone to go kill it :(
thats insane !
So far, every escalation i have ever gotten hasnt dropped any deadspace mods or even faction stuff, only ammo
come try some wormhole sites, the blue loot is a guaranteed drop every time
how would this be applied to drone space?
it doesn't, Drone space doesn't get escalations
It sure does get escalations, but only 5/10 and 10/10s. 10/10s sell for about 130m.
Source: I've sold more than 50 of them in the last 2 months.
'never got answered'
- shows exact fits for mission running
- show exact fits for salvaging
- shows exact fits for exploring
- shows how to time-effectively sell items, you get from those 3 activities, to get back to playing the game
but go off dude 😌
He's right. Your vid sucks
How to avoid drones agro? Mobs just don't shoot me and killing drones!
The auto Targeter will help draw aggro when you have it on, making your drones lower on the aggro hierarchy and therefore hopefully left alone
1:53 how do you do that?
Lock multiple targets from the overview? Hold control and click the targets.
more than 10, you are beyond unlucky....me 32 haven later...no escalation
17 sites x30 min nearly 10 hours in T4 abyss i will already earn nearly 3 bil
My brother your music is a touch too loud for the volume you speak at
indeed it was, i hope you find my newer videos are a bit more refined with the music to voice balancing
Best way to get rich in eve online is to get poor in IRL 😂
haha definitely an option
Im at over 60 havens with carrier and nothing. No escalation
with a carrier, that's some big boy ratting, how many sites do you typically have to run to pay one off
@@GKhagah around 166-200 depending on fit. Just bounty payments of 21mil each. Crap brm, no escalation or faction spawn. Utter crapfest. Ima look for a wh instead…. This was a lot better once… but ccp
And around 700 havens to get your isk back if it is with a super. Thats 77 hrs of pure grind non stop lmao
Sorry its 133* hrs not 77 💀 if you get 360m/hr
Plenty of ways to get rich in Eve Online, though playing the market is likely no.1 on the list - +trillion of ISK, not uncommon
"f**k that I'm out.. f**k you."
wormhole life
lol
why running 45m h when you can just lvl4 in empire for 200-250mil/h+
Well not everyone lives in high-sec and part of this video was me doing something I don't normally do to get rich, going out of my normal bread and butter so to say. Before doing this video my nullsec mate gave me a checklist on hows it is done, and then I went and did it, I wanted to show 1-way people actually get rich in EVE, and doing escalations is definitely a way.
And to your comments mindset, Why not then join Wormhole space and make 1B+ an Hr in C5s ;) .
@@GKhagah no offence nice vid anyways
@@ikik6520 oh none taken! ty for watching and commenting!
I had this situation once (and yes, it can happen) , I ran like 20 heavens and no escalation, I have contacted EVE support - no help. I ran another 10 heavens and no escalation. Finally I re-installed whole EVE and boom, 5 heaves = 3 escalations. Poblem was with some cache or whatever.
wild
omg after watching this shit ive got a gigantic urge to play spaceships :/
500 bill last y in LS
Thats a lot of isk
how?
nothing new. People have been running haven like this for quite a long time. Hell you can run then in a Vexor navy issue, or a Myrmidon. Ishtar way to expensive. return on investment takes forever. Better using dual ishtars to run C3 sites. You'll make a ton more.
oh god yeah, anything wormhole really is better isk per hour. point of this video was to attempt something that I wasn't familiar with to show how to generate isk. And again, The Havens is so low risk per hour in the system that I don't consider the money-making part, The money is in the escalations you have to grind for.
I've been considering getting back into EVE and have been watching videos. I started watching the guy who you showed first and I absolutely cannot make it through his videos; too much self-love and attempts to be funny w/o a comedic instinct. It's cringey having to sit through it and I often skip lots of his bits, if I can sit through the video.
to get rich you need to be rich, ok
I fall asleep with this AFK ratting ... now i truly understand why i hate rating Lol